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Being In Control Of Your Next Reincarnation????

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If Reincarnation is true, and we do switch from life to life!, and we can somehow find out bits and peices of our past lives (meaning that for some reason we can remember parts of our past lives)! Because if we can find this much out, there must be a way to control your own personal reincarnation, or even a way out of a bad life you might not want to live! Is It possible that we control are reincarnations or that we can take our same state of mind into our next lives?, or that what we do in this life results on what happens in the next?

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Hey there,

I have read in various accounts that in the afterlife we work with our spirit guides to "script" each of our lifetimes... we decide what we would like to work on before we are even born. So yes, I think we do control each of our reincarnations, but that we deliberately choose hard things in our lives so that we can learn from them.

I am reading "Destiny of Souls" by Michael D. Newton right now, which deals wiith this topic - it is fascinating!! Another good one is "Many Lives, Many Masters" by Brian Weiss.

Take care!

Dena
 
Ahhhhhhhh,, But I disagree Peter..

The goal should be -- to be CONSCIOUS in our choices to have one..or not.

Dena, I believe that there are souls that choose life times.....but I have come to believe through my own experiences and in my research that most people are drawn like magnets to places, people and situations.

Let me quote Carol here -- In her new book she references the Tibetan Buddhists;

“The Tibetan Buddhists agree that the more aware and conscious a soul is, the better its choices will be for the coming life. They say a spiritually evolved soul can direct its incarnation and choose the place and family of its birth. Otherwise, they say, Karma will dictate the choice, and the soul will be drawn, as a magnet, into whatever womb resonates with all its past experiences.”
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Deborah, I believe that we choose to reincarnate to learn and better ourselves until we have attained perfect enlightenment and being. Once this is accomplished we move out of this phase of growth and onto the next, whatever that may be, until we are fully conscious of the Oneness of our Being with the Creative Forces (God).

Each soul in entering the material experience does so for those purposes of advancement towards that awareness of being fully conscious of the oneness with the Creative Forces. Cayce - 2632-1

Once we have become fully conscious of the oneness with the Creative Forces there is no longer a need for us to be here as we have accomplished our goals and can advance to other methods of learning.
 
If I was able to perfectly define it I would be able to live it and thus, have no need to be here at all.

It's a goal to work towards every day. Not to seek it, but allow it to come.
 
LOLO Your so much fun Peter,

I find terms like "perfect enlightenment" to fall into the New Age fashion terms used without understanding or that suggest unreachable goals -(this time around).

In your quote Cayce doesn't suggest what your implying...I find it more along the lines of suggesting experience.

We have to EXPERIENCE life in order to embrace, understand and CREATE differently. Maybe the goal should be to consciously create life - to actually consciously change our reality?

In my own past life memories, I have found that I did not know how to create differently, how to create change within my soul, in order to embrace peace, love and harmony. Reincarnation is not a random spur of events. We are responsible for who, where and what we are.

Is perhaps the oneness you speak of the creative forces/god? Here's something to ponder --

“God is the field of consciousness, the unity of all things. Each of us -- each energy "soul" -- is a part of this field and we are all co-creators of its evolving destiny. The name of God used in the Torah is composed of four Hebrew letters -- yud, hey, vav, hey (YHVH). This name is often translated as "I am that I am." Yet, as some have pointed out [Lerner], the word is more properly translated with a future-tense cast: "I am what I will be." The core revelation here is that destiny is not fixed; that each individual can create their own destiny as well as affect the collective destiny of the world.“
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Amy L. Lansky, PhD
 
It is my belief that the more enlightened an individual becomes the greater will be their freedom in choosing their future incarnation.If an individual were to immerse themselves in religious dogmas or the pursuit of material pleasures to the exclusion of pursuing a true knowledge of God,then I believe that they will be obliged to incarnate in a life where they will be even more drawn to these things and will be trapped in a continuous Karmic spiral.For does Christ not state that'he who has shall be given more'.Or if they cause suffering to another person then their spirit will be constrained to incarnate in a life whereby their karmic debt can be repaid.Only when a soul accepts the futility of material concerns and realises their oneness with God and the universe can they escape the influences of karmic law and achieve control over their destinies.One thing I am sure of however is that given the nature of our modern materialist societies spiritual enlightenment is a virtual impossibility for all but a tiny minority of westerners.
 
Hi Peter,

You said the goal was to not need another incarnation. I said the goal should be to be conscious in our choices, to create differently, and even to create a different reality.

You suggested that the goal was to reincarnate until we reach a "perfect enlightenment" -something that you could not define. You suggested that being fully conscious with the ONEness of creative forces was part of this enlightenment -the 'goal.'

Cayce does not imply there is an 'end' nor does he imply in your part of the quote that is there a finality to the goal...only experience. You were suggesting, at least I thought so, that the goal had a finish line, a final 'product.'

"The goal is not to need another one."

I suggested the goal was to be conscious in our choices - to be conscious in our creations...and open to all possibilities.

Aahhhhhhhh the written word without face to face conversation..leaves a lot to be desired, and is always a challenge.

Andrew - Terms like "impossibility' are so limiting.....don't you think? Have you ever heard of the scientific research that is referred to as "The Hundredth Monkey?"
 
Actually, Cayce did say there was an "end point" to reincarnation. That is when we, as said above, perfect oursleves. Cayce believed that Christ was a soul who had accomplished this and that all of us would in turn do so as well....eventually.
 
Deborah,
I've never heard of 'the hundredth monkey'.I believe it is an impossibility for any one to progress spiritually if they concern themselves too deeply with the pursuit of material wealth and this after all is the ethos of western societies.I don't advocate living in poverty-there is no virtue in hardship.However suffering and material deprivation can stimulate an individual to take a different perspective on life and seek a deeper meaning in human existence.In order to break the karmic chains which bind us it is necessary for an individual to reject conventional materialist values and how many people in western societies are willing to take that step?karma will provide an individual with the means to attain growth however the means of attaining spiritual development are often extremely unpleasant and entail sacrifice and suffering.A belief in karma and reincarnation has been a central feature of my life for the past twenty years and it has shaped my attitudes and outlook on life however I believe that I am no further along the path to true spiritual enlightenment than I was twenty years ago.
 
HI

Peter, can you quote him as such? Or is that your interpretation? If Cayce - who was a medium, not a historian or scientist is -- proof -- that this is our goal -- then what does the second coming of Christ mean? Many implications, many levels --what does 'perfect' mean....again?

Did Jesus ever suggest that we would be 'perfect'? Or is it Cayce's interpretation -- or clairvoyant messages (which, as with all mediums is tainted by their own cultural and religious backgrounds to some degree) that people base their understanding of terms like 'perfect'?

Andrew...I don't think money has anything to do with spiritual evolution, intentions do. Agreed, power can make people do crazy things, have unbalanced actions, and be all consumed by greed. BUT, I have met some VERY powerful and wealthy people whose intentions and actions speak louder than words or their money. Instead -spiritual evolution, to me has to do with consciousness. Consciously creating with Love and compassion...and empathy.

Have you checked out the "Three Intelligence's" thread in the Spirituality section? I would be interested in your thoughts there since you are also familiar with the Buddhists traditions. I'll get back to you on the hundreth monkey.
 
Andrew,

A quick overview of The Hundredth Monkey. --

The Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon, shows that when enough of us are aware of something, all of us become aware of it.

This concept confirms now what others are suggesting in their work (i.e., Gregg Braden and his book The Isaiah Effect for example) -- that the appreciation and love we have for ourselves and others creates an expanding energy field that becomes a growing power in the world.

A lot of work was done by Ken Keyes, Jr. who first published his book about the dangers of nuclear power and weapons in 1981; The "Hundredth Monkey Phenomenon" refers to a study conducted in 1952 in Koshima, Japan: One monkey learned to wash its food, and then taught other monkeys in its troop this new skill. Still more monkeys in the troop learned to wash their food until one day one last monkey, arbitrarily labeled the "hundredth" monkey, learned the skill... at which time, the entire troop suddenly learned how to wash their food, and monkeys from across the sea learned as well.

The point of this story is to illustrate that when enough members of a group are aware, their society can be changed.
 
Our next life

I am curious, do you all think that the spiritual knowledge learned in one life carries over into the next? I am worried that all of the rewarding information I have attained in this life will be erased in the next one and I will have to start all over again, or maybe never learn in my next life what I have learned in this one.
 
Hi Krysty,

I definately think so! Edgar Cayce believed that Karma is only memory. Karl Pribram, a neurophysiologist at Stanford University first started researching memories in the early 1940’s and it wasn’t until he found the work of Bohm and the Hologram, that his research regarding memories began to make sense. Karl Pribram arrived at his conclusions separate from Bohm, and although they were working in two very different directions, the concept of the hologram brought to light multiple meanings and implications scientifically regarding consciousness and matter.

Their holographic studies showed that memories also effect consciousness. Memories are viable portions of the hologram!
 
I thought this was an interesting thread and brought it back to the top. Can anyone refer to the theory that we are drawn in our next incarnation by the thoughts and convictions we had at the end of our former life? Examples maybe?

Eevee
 
Yes, yes, yes

Can anyone refer to the theory that we are drawn in our next incarnation by the thoughts and convictions we had at the end of our former life? Examples maybe?
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Bhagavad Gita has this to say on this issue:
yaM yaM v'Api smaran bhAvaM tyajaty ante kalevaram tam ev'aiti, Kaunteya, sadA tad-bhAva bhAvitaH

Whatever state a man may bear in mind when in the end he casts his mortal frame aside, even to that state does he accede, for ever does that state make him grow into itself.

Transl. by R.C. Zaehner
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On a personal note, I have no doubt that my father was thinking of me in his last moments, even though I was on the other side of the world during that time. He managed to come across two oceans to be with me again.

Getting back to the main questions of this thread:
Is It possible that we control our reincarnations or that we can take our same state of mind into our next lives?, or that what we do in this life results on what happens in the next?
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I think or is a wholly inappropriate conjunction to connect these two questions. Our life is not a randomly thrown together bits of unrelated events. It is a continuous tapestry of actions linked by karmic process. We can control reincarnations with our state of mind and our state of mind is determined by what we do in life.
 
Taking understanding from our previous identities to future lives?

Hi everyone,

Just something I've been thinking about and what I'm hoping for my future lives. I'll start by talking about my situation and then, I'll make this question a general one as, it does so apply to every human / physical being. So, I'd love to hear your views.

As a Disabled person (i.e.visually impaired) I'm guessing it's likely, if not guaranteed, that I'll be able bodied in the next life coming to me. Now what concerns me is, with my currnent life and the way I understand, empathize and connect with other Disabled people through my experience and how I can really appriciate what it really is all about from the first person perception. What concerns me is that, in the next life, I'll lose all that. It could matter as, I could well have Disabled members of family, school friends, college and work coleagues with a disability and... as the old habit goes, I won't be able to relate to them, what life as a whole is really like for them. Abled bodied people try very hard to understand but , with all the best will in the world... you have to be there to really know. Well, I didn't really wanna have to point that out however, a good illistration for what I'm on about with concern to my next life. I'm sort of concerned that losing the appriciation in the next life would somehow devalue the current life I have now. Like, if I lose that understanding then, what was the point of being Disabled in this life? Being disabled sort of gives the edge to the learning experience and souls acheivemet so, I worry that all that hard I, as Justin, put in, would be wiped out by my future identity. So, I am concerned and now have a clear desire to retain that learning, and all learning and knowledge I've gain in life being who I am.

Ok, enough the me, me me, now, lol. i wanna throw the question open to you all now. Thinking on what i said concernign me. What are your views on wat happens to the learning and knowledge that you gain in each life, being a differnet person, different identity with all different circumstances being born into and what happens after each life.

Do you believe what knowledge and learning you gain being a different you each time is retain by your soul? Does it carry that learning experience to future lives? Or, is it all temperarily wiped out for the purpose of starting a new in each life?

For those who remember past lives. have you detected the learning and knowledge gained in them is present in your current lives, side by side of the new learning experiences being gained?

It's something I thought about starting with me and thinking about the question from a wider perspective. I'd be interested to here all viewpoints here.

thanks for your thoughts :)

Justin (who's always eagor to learn more and more).
 
I don't think what you learn gets wiped out, so much as changed to fit the circumstances.

Take Alexander Graham Bell. His wife and mother were deaf. From them, he learned the importance of being able to communicate. But, although he was fluent in sign language, he didn't become a sign language teacher.

Instead, his combination of understanding and talent enabled him to invent the telephone--and where would communication be without that little invention?

With the combination of understanding what it's like to be visually impaired in this life, and the talents and skills you'll have in the next, who knows what you'll be able to come up with? :thumbsup:
 
Justin, what talents do you possess that seem natural or easy, and what do you understand, appreciate and/or have a likeness for now, perhaps beyond what may be considered run-of-the-mill? Or what are you sure of? Some people's natural talents and understanding are inexplicable if reincarnation is not considered or is dismissed.

It's a matter of degree, with the most obvious and dramatic getting all the press. A child prodigy or savant may play Mozart when seated for the first time at a keyboard. Another displays near-supernatural ability with mathematics. Another can speak a dozen languages before age 10. Einstein, an otherwise loser, had the ability, hidden to all, to picture in his head the workings of the universe and give to the world — off the top of his head — the nature of energy, mass, light and time, no less.

What led to this creative genius? Was it formed in one go, or was it accumulated over many lifetimes, to culminate in an obscure nobody killing time in a patent office? If it was gained through other lifetimes, perhaps his previous incarnations were considered mundane or even a waste.

The most dramatic examples are the most familiar, but the phenomenon is not all or nothing. I believe it is better understood as part of a continuum, with the super-dramatic at one end, and gradually diminishing until the causes of our knowledge and everything else gained from previous existences is lost in the noise and amnesia that generally increases with age.

But the noise does not negate the knowledge or the causes. They remain, as they do with you, with only their origins hidden, thereby complicating the search — for those who care to investigate.

As dark rosaleen says,
With the combination of understanding what it's like to be visually impaired in this life, and the talents and skills you'll have in the next, who knows what you'll be able to come up with?
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Your time on Earth as Justin could be a necessary building block, part of the accumulated foundation you require before you can make a great discovery or accomplish other great things in your next go-round, the one after that — or maybe even tomorrow.
 
Thanks to both of you. I hadn't thought about talent as such but, yes, that does apply to knowledge and learning of what it's like to be a certain person, living a certain lifestyle. I think that's what I was after.

I had the fear of going through this life, learning a great deal about life itself. I believe by meerly being Disabled that I've learnt a lot more about life than i believe I would have done having being able bodied in the same environment and cercumstances as I have right now. My fear was to have all this learning, understanding and appriciation of other people and all their differences just to go and lose all of this at the point of entry into the next life.

I think what I'm saying is, if one man was a very poor man in one life, came back born into riches. Would he have lost all that he had learnt from the experience of being poor in the last life. Would he treat poorer people with contempt despite him being poor in the last life?

Maybe this is a very difficult question, maybe it's down to free will and deciding for yourself whether to hold to your insights from past lives while in this one, or to throw them aside and soak up this life without a regard for what you've learnt in the past? I think that's what I mean. I feel the temperary memory wipe for most of us in the world, who cannot remember past lives by nature sort of is very much what started off my fear forgetting the valuable lessons learnt.

hmmm... am I making any sense?

Justin
 
Hi Justin,

JustinR said:
I think what I'm saying is, if one man was a very poor man in one life, came back born into riches. Would he have lost all that he had learnt from the experience of being poor in the last life. Would he treat poorer people with contempt despite him being poor in the last life?
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I think that would depend entirely on the lessons you choose to learn and focus on in your next life. Just because we have one poor life doesn't mean that in the next one we'll be wealthy ;) Also, as humans we are given free will to make choices, that can directly affect which path we follow. The rich man could feel empathy towards less fortunate people and be kind towards them but at that point he has a choice. He could use his wealth to assist them, or decide to do nothing but feel sorry for them. Or, as you pointed out, he could feel contempt towards them. He still has a choice to give money grudgingly to charities, or do nothing at all. I could go on for hours :laugh: but you see where I'm going with this?

Ailish
 
I think I can actually Ailish. Seems to me that it is really down to a matter of choice and free will.

So, if I still have the wish, I can transfer all that I've learnt, all that I've realized in this life to the next one. I feel that it is important to me, not just because of being disabled but, what the experience has given me. I wouldn't wanna throw that away upon my return :D

So, sounds like I've nothing to worry about there. thanks Ailish :)
 
I don't think you'll throw anything away, Justin. ;) You've learned a lot, and been through a lot and I can see you using what you've learned in a positive way next go around. :D

Ailish
 
what would your soul adventure be?

ive just been reading a couple of threads, asking questions like "do you remember chosing what life you wanted, before you reincarnated?" and the like.

this got me thinking, since theres the idea that your soul can choose, what would your ideal soul adventure be for the next incarnation?

i know this is quite a broad question, but thats the fun! :laugh:
 
I'm not really sure what I hope to accomplish next life, since I don't really have any idea about what I chose to accomplish in this life. I see each day as a chance to learn something new, or expand on something I already know.
I'm not really sure what my ultimate goal has been, because at this point in my life, I seem to be goaless (is this even a word??) I mean my life probably isn't really based upon those last 15 lbs I want to lose, or the garden I mean to fix up but am struggling with, or remembering my SIL's birthday card, or even deciding what I want to have for dinner. At this point, it all seems pointless. I guess I haven't had that "ah ha" moment yet.
 
I read through a bit of this topic, and I question came to mind.

Is it a bad thing that I do not want "the end" to come?

I hear all these ideas of how after enough time has passed, me move on to a "greater plane of existance" but for some reason, that just doesn't sound appealing at all, to me. I want to live as human in different lives for eternity... I think it makes things no more challenging or exciting if a person stops living. What about the people that are on this planet to discover, invent, teach, and enjoy living? Do these such people have the choice to keep living, or are they forced into this other plane of existance when they have lived enough?

The thought of never reincarnating again sounds terrible... I would rather not exist at all, than be a part of this "God".
 
My goal for next life is to expierience things that I did not expierience in this life, ones in which were beyond my own control.

For one, in this current life I do not socialize with anyone, am alone, I don't have any siblings, and lock myself away in my room day after day, day after day... My parents are rarely home, so most of my life thus far (I am just 15 currently) has been living in lonliness and mild depression.

In next life, I want to get out more, expierience more, and of course I will choose a life that has siblings. I don't know what I was thinking when I chose this life of lonliness, but I'll make next one all the better
 
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