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Celestial Twin, Gnostic Gospel & Reincarnation

dking777

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Much of my own mystical experiences in childhood dealt with two central themes. One was of 'reincarnation' and the other other was a 'celestial twin.' Much of my insight was gained through 'near-death experiences' but the 'higher tones' or 'knowledge' was hard to grasp with a child's mind. I had one conversation with a 'messenger' at the age of 8 in a 'walking' 'day-dream' type vision. A great deal was discussed and I was told the memories of the conversation would be buried until I found 'writings' that had been buried many years ago - and was just starting to be 'brought to light' again in the world. The gospel I found that related to the 'celestial twin' concept was the 'Gospel of Philip.' It is worded in such a way - it is hard to grasp in English, but it (the conversation I had with a messenger of light in 1968) is there hidden in the undertow of the writing. I found some quotes that outline the 'teaching's' hidden within this particular gospel.

Lesson II. Of The Spiritual Worlds and the Demiurge
  • 30. Does each individual human have a guardian angel?
    It has been commonly held by tradition that each person has a special guardian angel. Experience both Gnostic and otherwise bears this out. By the same token it must be recalled that the concept of the guardian angel has been influenced by a yet more profound mystery, i.e. that of the Divine Twin, or Twin Angel.
  • 31. What is the Divine Twin or Twin Angel?
    There are reports in Gnostic scripture and tradition about a celestial twin spirit who overshadows the human and at certain special times manifests to him. In Pistis Sophia such a twin comes to Jesus early in his life and unites with Him. The Holy Prophet Mani experienced several manifestations of his twin who finally united with him and took him to heaven.
I thought I would start a thread about this and share some of the mystical insights about this concept as it relates to the 'cycles' of 'reincarnation.' (According to what was reveled to me in spirit.)

Sincerely,
DKing
 
Soon after my encounter with the 'divine messenger' - I was with two other 'messengers' I was familiar with from my NDE's. (My parents and family came to call these one's my invisible friends.)


I was talking to my Grandmother about the man I knew of as "Yeshua" from visions, dreams and my 'near-death experiences.' My Grandmother kept telling me my story of "Yeshua" sounded a lot like the story she knew of pertaining to "Jesus." I asked her if he had found his 'twin.' My Grandmother said she never heard a tale told about a 'twin' in the story. The 'guides' was 'invisible to my Grandmother and silent as well. I could hear them and they said, "Ask your Grandmother about the 'bride with the bridegroom." I did as I was told and she said that yes, there was a reference to Jesus about a bride and bridegroom. I told her,


"Grandma, that is the same thing. That is the twin I am talking about. So, your saying that your story about Jesus did have a tale about the twin? Must of, if they knew enough to say 'bride with bridegroom about him. Because you can't become a teacher without finding your twin first."


It was a metaphor much like many other 'mystical and spiritual concepts.' It was hard to put into words - and the words of this world would often confuse the mind about the 'divine principles' involved. It was very confusing for me as a child when it came to the 'mysteries of the divine' I would have sight of during my 'near-death experiences.' I was constantly looking for my own 'metaphors.' Twin was the one that always stuck. I wish I would have known the word 'celestial' when I was a child - because I would have put those together to describe the 'spirit twin' in such a way as not to confuse other minds with a 'worldly' or 'physical and material twin.'


Sincerely,


DKing
 
After my 'near-death experiences' - when I came back into 'human form' again within the physical body - always referred to the human body as the 'shadow body.' I ran across a translation of the Gnostic Gospels what included sidenotes for the various words in the translation process. I found one word that jumped out at me.


Image/Imagery.


The English word came from a Coptic and Hebrew word which the translator was trying to translate into English. It was the Hebrew word which has a root meaning of 'to shade.' (tselem, from lc [tsel, shadow]


To illustrate this meaning as an 8 year old child, I was told to make a puppet with my hand and 'cast a shadow' upon the ground. A mere, empty, image, semblance or 'shadow' of the hand was cast upon the ground.


The translator defined the word 'image/imagery' the same way I did as a child.


Image/Imagery: sensory perceptions and/or mental images, the five senses together with memory and the imagination.


In the Gospel of Philip - it is written:


30. He says today in the Eucharist: Oh thou who have mated the perfect Light with the Holy Spirit, mate also our Angels with our Imagery!


On the board, many have spoken of the 'part of our soul' that never leaves the 'divine realm.' "Angel" is a reference to the part of our 'soul' that never leaves the light. There is a 'duality' to the soul in the 'divine realm.' The 'yin-yang' of the two sides to the whole which 'produces' two 'breaths' or 'two spirits' for the sake of 'incarnations' into the 'dark world' of physical matter.


When I found the Gospel of Philip translated by Paterson Brown, it was the first time in my physical life - I found something I could relate to concerning the 'mystical conversations' after my many 'near-death' experiences in childhood.


Though my life - I was often led to give a parable or metaphorical expression to others about 'reincarnation' when it came to the meaning of, the purpose of, or reason for it. I always felt the metaphor or parable was more for their minds than my own. Once I found this 'line' in the Gospel of Philip - I would offer my own opinion that the true reason for reincarnation is taking the steps needed to mate the 'angel' with the 'image.'


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Taking your thought in a different direction, you say the twin spirit of Jesus is the one you called Yeshua and you saw that as his bride. Would that mean that some have twin souls of the opposite sex and are heterosexual and those who have twin souls of the same sex are homosexual? OR .... is there no sexuality to the twin souls, they are sexless?


I am sorry if that is confusing ..
 
Oh, this is my Phoenix!


What an interesting thought, in regard to the bride/bridegroom and twin spirit. I wonder what complete unity would be like?


Although we are very much together, I still feel she is independent and not always able to communicate to me the fullness of what she understands, though I know to follow her guidance whenever I feel that tug of knowing. I call her my "Holy Spirit" connection, also.


She is very much fire and light to me. I have seen myself as the torn veil through which her light passes, or the container that once covered the light before I shattered into an opening that features it ... or the channel of her light and love.


For some time I thought she was out to destroy me entirely, because I lost so much of what I believed was "my self" ... only in the end, it was the darkness that was smothering me that I lost. It felt destructive, but it was healing. And now her fire is merely light, and it passes through me without pain most of the time. (How interesting! I only realized this transition had occurred recently. Habit of old perspective *laugh*) :rolleyes:


I love how she creates a space for me to experience her within myth and imagination. It gives me a handle on the intangible.


How do you experience your "angel"?
 
Mama2HRB said:
Would that mean that some have twin souls of the opposite sex and are heterosexual and those who have twin souls of the same sex are homosexual? OR .... is there no sexuality to the twin souls, they are sexless?
Mama2HRB, it's an interesting thought.


I wonder if there are different stages of soul, or maybe we choose our experience based on necessity. For me, I am inwardly "genderless" as I think of myself in general, though I seem to have an inter-life "sexual preference" for men, no matter my chosen gender.


Yet Phoenix manifests as female, possibly because I am female in this life and intentionally so? Hmm... She could just as easily be he or otherwise, and now I get the impression that she has role-played other characters along my spiritual path. Need to meditate on this ... cover face
 
Mama2HRB said:
Taking your thought in a different direction, you say the twin spirit of Jesus is the one you called Yeshua and you saw that as his bride.
No, "Yeshua" is the actual Aramiac name. To me, it was like talking about someone I knew of as George - and everyone telling me the story I was telling sounded like the story of Paul to them. I was going by the actual name I heard in 'visions' - and people were reference a name they read out of book. The world has the spelling and the sound of the name wrong. I didn't know enough to know that the one I 'knew' of from my NDE's and visions as "Yeshua" was actually the one and same as the one the world called "Jesus" until I saw the face on a photographic image I had told my Grandmother about when I was only 8 years old. The man whose face appears in that shroud is the same face of the man I was constantly referencing as a child as "Yehsua." I didn't come across that face until 1999 and it blew me away. It seemed like the face of an old and familiar friend to me. (Sort of morbid though, knowing it was of his corpse lifeless and without the 'spirit dwelling within.)


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mama2HRB said:
.....one you called Yeshua and you saw that as his bride.
It would never be referred to as the 'bride' alone. It was always referred to as the 'bride with the bridegroom.' It was a metaphor and didn't have the worldly meaning of 'bride.' A similitude, a parable, a metaphor.


Sort of like - if you dealt with people who had never seen the 'Sun' hanging in the sky because they lived in caves all their lives. If you handed them an 'orange' and said,


"This looks like the Sun when it is hanging in the sky" - you know the orange is just an orange and the Sun is something these people are blind to and have no understanding of because they have never experienced the sun hanging in the sky because they are 'cave dwellers.' The 'bride with the bridegroom' was a metaphor much in the same way and one of the reasons I never used it as a child. It would confuse people to think I was talking about an orange when I was trying to talk about something totally different. The Sun.


Hope that makes sense.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
To me and my experiences - the 'soul' and the 'spirit' are two different 'things' all together. People often use them interchangeably and that has always confused me. It is the 'spirit' that incarnates into the flesh. The 'soul' doesn't. (In my vocabulary anyway.)


I drew up an illustration. You can look at the 'soul' as the 'over-soul' or the part of us that never leaves the divine realm of light.


Angel and Imagery. (Not Found)


This was my 'hand made' illustration going by my own experiences as well as what can be read between the lines in the Gospel of Philip.


I know, I know - it is sort of complex and confusing.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mama2HRB said:
OR .... is there no sexuality to the twin souls, they are sexless?
In my NDE's - I always called it 'morphing.' I think a teacher gave me that word in 'fourth' grade when I tried to describe what happened in my NDE's. So, on the physical level - you had a gender identity. When I left the physical body and retained an image of myself as a human - there was a gender identity. Another stage in the morphing process was the 'implosion' that occurred. Once that implosion occurred - you morphed to a different level in spirit and at that level - there is no 'gender' difference. There is no physical feature of 'man' or 'woman' at that level.


All the 'disembodied' spirits I worked with from 1977 to 1981 were past the 'implosion' point and didn't identity themselves as either 'man' or 'woman.' It is only when they lowed their frequency down to the 'earth plane' and took on the image they had as humans - that sort of distinction would be made - it was always in relations to their 'former identity' and not there current identity in spirit. ("This is not who I am now to you. This is who I once was while in the world." I was told it was important to remember that in the future.)


In 1968 - when speaking to the 'divine messenger' I was told that the 'division of the sexes' was something only done on the 'physical plane' and not something that was done or related to on the 'higher planes' with the soul.


But, to answer your question about the 'physical incarnations' as it is related to 'sexuality.' I had experience running into two spirit twins in physical form. They were both in the bodies of 'men.' In one case, both were 'heterosexual' men. One was destined to marry and produce off-spring. The other one was destined to die young. I had several different cases for my own study and when they were the same gender - it was usually only one who would be attracted to the same gender and the other would be attracted to the opposite gender. In cases where the two physical bodies were in opposite genders - the same was true. One of them identified themselves as 'gay' and the other one was interested in the opposite gender and producing offspring.


So - I never found any sort of pattern that would suggest just because both were incarnated in the same gender - that it would lead to homosexual attraction to both in the pair.


My study of it led me to believe that the 'attraction' wasn't based on the 'gender' of the soul, spiritual twins, or such--- as much as it was on the 'pairing' of 'soul mates' for meeting in that particular life.


Depending on what 'stage' a 'spirit' was at in 'morphing' would depend on what sort of 'gender identity' they radiated to. On the soul level at the highest form - there was no such thing as 'man' or 'woman.' That was strictly for the physical world and incarnations.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
I call her my "Holy Spirit" connection, also.
This is very true and I feel is the foundation of the 'spirit twin' concept. When I was a child - I referred to the "Holy Spirit" as the "Mother of my Soul." (Or my Real Mom.) I feel the 'connection' to the 'twin spirit' or 'angelical portion of soul' is done though the "Holy Spirit.' The guidance of, instructions of, and the love of this 'Divine Spirit.'


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
I call her my "Holy Spirit" connection,.....
I feel the Gospel of Philip reflects upon what the Hebrew Kabbalah also tried to touch base upon. Here is a quote:

Each soul, prior to its entering into this world, consists of male and female united into one being. When it descends on this earth the two parts are separated and animate two different bodies. " At the time of marriage the Holy One, blessed be he, who knows all souls and spirits, unites them again as they were before; and they again constitute one body and one soul, forming as it were the right and the left of the individual … This union, however, is influence by the deeds of the man and by the ways in which he walks. If the man is pure and his conduct is pleasing in the sight of God, he is united with that female part of the soul which was his component part prior to his birth" (Zohar, i. 91) The Encyclopaedia Britannica:
I found another quote relating to the Zohar which reflects a passage about the "Divine Mother."

The verse, "And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent" (Genesis 24.67), our masters have interpreted to mean that the Divine Presence came into Isaac's house along with Rebecca. According to the secret doctrine, the supernal Mother is together with the male only when the house is in readiness and at the time the masculine and feminine are conjoined. At such time blessings are showered forth by the supernal Mother upon them. Zohar: The Book of Splendor: Basic Readings from the Kabbalah
As a child, I would have referred to either of these quotes as relating to the concept I liked to refer to as the 'twin.'


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
How do you experience your "angel"?
When I started uncovering 'hidden memories' as an adult, I had a long history of encounters with an 'invisible entity' I related to as a child. After the age of 8 - I started referring to this 'one entity' or 'invisible persona' as 'my angel.' You know how possessive children can be about something they feel belongs to them.


When I started recalling the conversation - I asked this 'invisible spirit of a persona' who it was to me 'relationship' wise. (Such as a Mom, sister, Grandmother - or - in a kinship manner.) This one was referring to some sort of 'kinship' in spirit. That is when I was told,


"In the world you now live, some may refer to me as an angel."


It was exclusive to me - and was with no other as it was with me.


So, most of my experience while in human form is in 'visions.' It is not always visual. Sometimes it is only an 'audio' form of communication.


In my NDE's - it is a whole different thing.


Sincerely


DKing
 
dking777 said:
It was exclusive to me - and was with no other as it was with me.
So, most of my experience while in human form is in 'visions.' It is not always visual. Sometimes it is only an 'audio' form of communication.
That's interesting. From what I understand from what you've posted so far, Phoenix is my "twin spirit" otherwise known as my "guardian angel" ... or my "higher self", as it has been explained to me before.


Looking back into the time of my depression years ago, s/he was the reassuring voice that kept me sane. I had long, spoken (though not audible to others) conversations with him, often accusing him of causing my problems or proving I was crazy by making me talk to nobody. Of course, I also needed someone to talk to desperately at that point. I hadn't learned to accept friendship yet. I'm sure that was how I learned to allow certain people into my darkness. That calm voice just kept telling me how.


There was a gradual evolution of awareness. At some point the online nickname "phoenix" that I was using became the active visualization of that presence. S/he is the one who pushed me to keep writing, keep creating, keep studying and learning, and not to give up. I did these things, not because I felt capable of them but because she told me I should. Recently she sounds female ... and presents as a phoenix, visually. In my meditations she merges with my heart and gives me her wings so that we are "tangibly and visibly" one.


Edit: I read the gospel of Philip last night. I'm certain I read it a few years ago, but this time it was like someone was describing my changed perspective over the past year through several large sections (though I found the marriage elements confusing). It was startling and encouraging to know this shift in perspective isn't something I'm making up ... as if it were entirely new.
 
dking777 said:
My study of it led me to believe that the 'attraction' wasn't based on the 'gender' of the soul, spiritual twins, or such--- as much as it was on the 'pairing' of 'soul mates' for meeting in that particular life.
Now this idea of "the other half of a soul" fascinates me. After looking at your diagram, this would be a soul mate who also has a guardian-spirit-twin that is projected from the same soul complex. The spirit twins are connected on the level of spirit, but in the physical we might not recognize each other as our other half. Did I understand that correctly?


I keep meeting people who resonate like a strong previous connection, and they are showing up more frequently as I continue forward. I call them soul connections, because it seems to me that's what they are. We're relationally connected enough that my spirit can help me recognize it even in this tangible body.


It seems there are two strong possibilities in my life for a "soul mate" right now, and this offers an interesting challenge to how I was thinking of it till now since I discarded the possibility of "my other half" as a myth, thinking it's just a matter of choosing one of the many who are aligned, spiritually, as life path indicates.


One of my possibilities has only interacted in a single email exchange encouraged by our mutual best friend, where he told me I'm one of his favorite people on the planet, and to please accept his refusal of friendship because I'd shake up his world too much and he doesn't want to be called out of his dark cave. Even so, I catch myself calling him "my heart" automatically. cover face I'm not even worried about it ... mostly because I believe he will eventually end up choosing to meet when he's ready, and my best friend helps me deal with it by preventing me from feeling lonely. It's like he and I are already firmly connected. If we don't interact it doesn't change that reality.


The other possibility for "the one" is my best friend. (She is his best friend, also, and talks about me to him and him to me to keep us connected.) She is the one with whom I have confirmation of one shared life, with a strong experience on my part of several others we've shared though she hasn't tried to regress herself to see if she remembers them, too. We are as close as twins and talk to each other constantly even though we're on opposite sides of the world. We can lift each other through depression or help each other think from a new perspective quite easily, and we have also created a shared world in our meditations.


*sighs* Or maybe it's neither of them, and I won't meet my twin in this life. I've been constantly waiting, though, even when I'm wondering if this is "the one" in other relationships, which never pass the quality test and telling myself there is no "one." Yet another perspective on the two of them is that they share a soul, and I'm equally connected to both somehow.


I've sent messages and support via Phoenix to both their spirits/angels, whenever I think they need reassurance and I can't reach them on this level. More often with the one than the other, obviously. Your chart helps to see these layers of communication, even if we aren't sourced from the same soul.


Well, that's my confused stroll through this concept. For you, it seems there have been many levels of connection with many different people. I find your experiences interesting and helpful to read, but at the same time I wonder if I'd even know how to sense the difference. I'd ask how you know, but that probably doesn't come with an answer other than the experience itself.
 
Mere Dreamer said:
Now this idea of "the other half of a soul" fascinates me. After looking at your diagram, this would be a soul mate who also has a guardian-spirit-twin that is projected from the same soul complex. The spirit twins are connected on the level of spirit, but in the physical we might not recognize each other as our other half. Did I understand that correctly?
True. When I met the 'physical incarnation' of my own - it wasn't instant recognition on a conscious level. The person (physical incarnation) was a 'stranger' to me as far as my mind was concerned, yet I had been prepped to look for this one. So, my heart wasn't blind to the reality of this one - but my conscious mind had to walk with a 'blindness' or 'ignorance' of the 'spiritual reality.' We were both caught up, focused and in tune with the physical and conscious mind.


But yes, when I first met this one, I looked at them as sort of a 'soul mate' in the sense that I knew we had shared 'past lives' together. I had already met seven others whom I had past life recall with. I thought this was one of those experiences and wasn't in a hurry to rush into that 'mystical' side of the meeting. I wanted to take my time. Unforntantly my twin's physical incarnation died a few months after meeting.


I like the wording of 'soul complex.' I used to say 'soul body' and would always confuse people. That is why I intentionally used the 'yin-yang' symbol. People get sort of confused about the 'dual persona's' sharing one body. Sharing a 'complex' sounds better.


Sincerely


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
That's interesting. From what I understand from what you've posted so far, Phoenix is my "twin spirit" otherwise known as my "guardian angel" ... or my "higher self", as it has been explained to me before.
Part of the 'Higher Self' anyway.

There was a gradual evolution of awareness. At some point the online nickname "phoenix" that I was using became the active visualization of that presence.
When I was a child, I was always pushing for a 'name' from this One and was told it wasn't possible to attach a 'wordily' name to this one, so - I looked for my own. When the memories started coming back to me - I couldn't understand why I called this One by a 'physical name' if - I had been told it didn't answer to a physical or worldly name. I had called this One something like "K.C." or 'Casey." (I remember the time that KC and the SunShine Band came out and I thought it was a unique take on my own messenger of light from a blinding light.)


But, I finally figured out why I had chosen that nickname at a young age. The messenger wouldn't always come in a visual, so I was shouting out "can't see, can't see" - expressing my own blindness and asking this one to 'turn on their light' so I could have a visual to go along with the audio. Can't see - sort of merged into "Casey" as a nickname.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
I'd ask how you know, but that probably doesn't come with an answer other than the experience itself.
You know, there was a time in my young life when I spoke about 'reincarnation' directly and vivid to my family and friends. I was constantly being accused of 'mistaking' imagination for reality. I was told I had to confirm these things with God and not allow my mind to be led astray by vain or wild imagination. So, I did just that. I constantly prayed for guidance and understanding from the 'highest authority' in spirit. I didn't know enough to trust my own mind about it - but - I felt I knew enough to 'trust God' with it.


So, when 'knowledge' of the difference in these matters came to me - it was sort of in a form of 'intuition' that I had to work with through many years and fined tuned it to know when it was of 'truth' or from my own minds imagination. So, by the time I was 21, when my friends asked me how I knew one particular friend was a past life associate, I said,


"God told me."


Of course, that opens up another can of worms. I can't give it to know to others like it was given to me to know 'inwardly.' And, some people don't believe God can talk to individuals inwardly and in silence.


But after I met my first 'past life associate' (or soul mate) at the age of 12, it did spark a level of 'imagination' when I met other people. I was constantly playing the guessing game and trying to figure out if everyone I met had a past life with me somewhere in my unconscious mind. I got tired of playing that guessing game and letting my imagination run wild with me some. That is why I always try to advocate seeking 'divine guidance' when it comes to 'reincarnation.'


I always asked God to lead me to 'what I needed' to know for the sake of truth - and to help me overcome my 'wants' concerning it. I learned what I wanted from it - and what I needed wasn't always the same thing. So, I just came to instinctively trust God to take care of my needs when it came to such matters and that 'form of intuition' would kick in when I met someone with a 'past life' association.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
*sighs* Or maybe it's neither of them, and I won't meet my twin in this life. I've been constantly waiting, though, even when I'm wondering if this is "the one" in other relationships, which never pass the quality test and telling myself there is no "one." Yet another perspective on the two of them is that they share a soul, and I'm equally connected to both somehow.
It was only after I was 21 that I started getting 'information' from the world about the 'idea and concept' of a 'other half.' The whole Plato thing was introduced to me around that age. (I think my Grandparents had tried to address it when I was a teenager - but it was beyond me at that time.)


The whole 'division' thing, made me think of the magician sawing a lady in half on stage. That sort of freaked me out. The 'division' or 'separation' is an illusion. I was constantly told that in 'truth' and in 'true reality' we are never separated. It is the 'projection' that is sort of separate. Think of the old fashioned movie projectors that projected light on a scene.


I used to go to a drive-in that had a movie scene in the front and the back with the projection booth in the middle. This sort of illustrates the 'soul complex' - like a 'projection' booth showing two different movies at once. No one was being 'sawed' in half.


I feel the path to the 'union' with (or reunion) with the twin - isn't an outward path as much as it is an inward path. When I was younger - I was told the 'twin' was like the Sun and 'soul mates' were like satellites or the Moon.' In the state of 'blindness' I was in as a human - made the "Sun" too bright for my mind - so - I was being sent 'soul mates' who were bouncing off the 'energy, love and light' from my own 'twin' to me in an indirect fashion.


I was also led to believe that my 'soul mates' in this life time were not chosen from me by my 'half of the heart or soul' as much as my soul mates were the 'choice' of my twin - in an effort to keep me company while in my state of 'illusion and blindness.' Sort of like the song from the past says, "If you can't love the one you love - love the one you with."


So, I think that sometimes in a person's life - a soul mate love my be the 'ultimate' love meant to guide you on your path - and superior to the love you would have - if you met the twin face to face.


Don't worry - you got all of eternity to spend with your twin. I felt part of the process of coming here (reincarnation) was to 'take a break' from them and share love with others in a way - we can't do with that 'ball and chain' attached to us in eternity.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Mere Dreamer said:
Edit: I read the gospel of Philip last night. I'm certain I read it a few years ago, but this time it was like someone was describing my changed perspective over the past year through several large sections (though I found the marriage elements confusing). It was startling and encouraging to know this shift in perspective isn't something I'm making up ... as if it were entirely new.
I ran across the Gospel of Philip online - at a time when I was still walking with 'buried' memories. I had long ago rejected mainstream "Christianity" due to it's rejection of reincarnation. I vowed I would never allow my mind to get caught up into anything relating to it. I was about to reject it when I read the name "Yeshua." This translator used the original Aramaic name. But, this was the 'trigger' I was looking for. When I read it the first time, it might as well have been written in a foreign language because it was all Greek to me. Reading the passages over and over again were triggering recall and that is when various lines started making sense.


It was as if I found my entire childhood buried in everyone of the passages (or lines) in the Gospel of Philip. As an example, during my first 'near-death' experience as a child, when I was out of my body and trying to figure out what was going on - a 'feminine spirit' came to me. I asked what was going on - and I was told something very similar to line 6 in the Gospel.

  • 6: In the days when we were Hebrews we were orphans, having only our Mother (The Spirit). Yet when we become Christics - (Messianics),- The Father joins with The Mother.


It was said to me a little differently as a child, but the underlining meaning was there. Reading the passages would trigger recall of an encounter with some sort of 'spirit' in childhood when the passages were expressed and explained to me.


Another example is when I was around 12. My Aunt and Uncle had a dog, "Colombo" named after the TV series character popular at the time. I was sitting by its side watching it chase it's tail when a couple of 'spirits' popped out of thin air and gave me a lesson about the phyisical sight I had in my eyes.

  • 56. A donkey going in a circle at a millstone did 100 miles walking. When it was released it found it self still in the same place. There are also people who take many journeys but make no progress anywhere.


When I was around 8 - I ran to my Grandmother and asked her what 'adultery' meant. She wanted to know where I got a word like that from. I told her, "My angel has been talking to me about such things."


I look back now and feel that during my entire childhood - 'divine messengers' were like 'ministering spirits' preaching this Gospel to me. For me personally, when I found the Gospel, I finally had something that pointed to the One divine spirit I adored, cherished, loved, admired and worshiped all my life. The "Supernal Mom."


Sincerely,


DKing
 
dking777 said:
I was also led to believe that my 'soul mates' in this life time were not chosen from me by my 'half of the heart or soul' as much as my soul mates were the 'choice' of my twin - in an effort to keep me company while in my state of 'illusion and blindness.' Sort of like the song from the past says, "If you can't love the one you love - love the one you with."


So, I think that sometimes in a person's life - a soul mate love my be the 'ultimate' love meant to guide you on your path - and superior to the love you would have - if you met the twin face to face.


Don't worry - you got all of eternity to spend with your twin.
When I used to think there was only one life I had a far greater sense of fear and urgency when it came to finding "love" in the limited, romantic sense. Now it's more of a wistful curiosity of what it would be like. You're right. At least we are always together in spirit, outside of time.


My twin has done an amazing job of sending me the best friends I could ask for. Very reassuring to think of it that way.
 
In the physical world - dealing with parenthood and growing up as a human - who had the biggest impact and most influence on me as a child being raised to adulthood? Mom did. I don't think my Dad would argue with that. This (for me) was just as true in a spiritual sense.


When I had my NDE in 1988, many witnesses asked who did I go and see in heaven. The 'Albino Spirit' or "Christ-figure" was the one who greeted me. I shouted out to him,


"Take me to see my MOM!"


The first one I felt deserved a kiss on the cheek was the "Mother of my Soul."


The Gospel makes the link to the "Supernal Mom" being one and the same as the "Holy Spirit" written about in the Bible. Just as the world changed the name of "Yeshua" to Jesus - they also changed the 'feminine spirit' of Motherhood into a masculine figure. This point was driven home when I recalled a time when I was 15 years old - and at work.


I was confused about the 'identity' of the 'Supernal Mom' and how 'she' tied into religion. Her voice came to me and said that one day I would find the story of her hidden in a Proverb and in that story - she would be referred to as Wisdom.

  • 59. The Wisdom which Humans call barren is the Mother of the Angels. See Proverbs 8


I think when your able to tie in the 'relationship' of an 'Angel' to our own 'souls' - you can see the link.


I know that Gnostic teaching supports the idea of reincarnation, but along the lines of "Buddhism" and "Hinduism" it is sort of projected as a 'curse' we have to break the 'evil cycle' of. In all my experiences, this sort of 'idea' was never the case in my own personal 'incarnation.' Maybe, I have evolved enough to be on the 'voluntary' basis, -- I dunno. Maybe there is a 'dark side' to the 'wheel' of incarnations and you have to evolve into the 'light side' to see the 'goodness' or 'purity' in the incarnation. So, I feel (personally) that some of the teaching and writings have been 'tainted' by a 'bad impression' of reincarnation as something your supposed to 'avoid' if all possible. I feel there are those (spirits) who have found a path to the light - and they come back (reincarnate) into the 'darkness' to help others lost from the light find their way to it as well. As I told one person once,


"You lack of belief in reincarnation now - ain't going to stop you from having to come back into this world again, and to start all over to find the right way out."


I thought some people 'felt' their 'disbelief' in reincarnation was a way to avoid it in the future. If your out and about in the world causing hurt, injury, harm and pain to others as well as yourself - then - you might not have too much to look forward to in your next few incarnations. On the other hand, if your intent is to spread love, joy, happiness, harmony and peace around while your here - you would be looking forward to the chance to do that all over again in the next incarnation.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
dking777 said:
I had long ago rejected mainstream "Christianity" due to it's rejection of reincarnation. I vowed I would never allow my mind to get caught up into anything relating to it.
I look back now and feel that during my entire childhood - 'divine messengers' were like 'ministering spirits' preaching this Gospel to me. For me personally, when I found the Gospel, I finally had something that pointed to the One divine spirit I adored, cherished, loved, admired and worshiped all my life. The "Supernal Mom."
Interesting. My spirit informed how well I accepted the Christianity I'd been taught. I don't have conscious conversations in memory, but I certainly never deeply believed the junk theology that was shoved at me ... even when I tried to superficially so people would approve of me. I couldn't even pretend to believe it, and they were always scolding me for being off track.


Frankly, I could not worship that god, as he is portrayed. Creepy and abusive to the max. I choose not to call myself "Christian" for that reason.


Maybe some of what I learned to believe will be similar if you track it back to the source, but when you look at the living results it often seems to be a whole different plant. I certainly didn't produce "good fruit" when I was aligned with them.


Looking back, it's like only the good parts stood out to me. It was a little like your experience with recognizing the teaching in the Gospel of Philip, perhaps. I would read whole sections of thought that they said taught one thing, and I'd get the exact opposite impression. I was quoting their own verses and authors at them when they challenged me, and it frustrated them immensely that I simply couldn't "get" what they were trying to teach me. And I couldn't figure out how they understood it so differently, either.


We could use the exact same source material and go opposite directions with how it directed our choices. It's part of the reason I shrug a little, no matter the book someone lifts up as spiritually insightful or "god given" in some way. The end result of any study is all about the spirit translating our experience to us. Without that, nobody is going to get it right. And with the spirit translating, even Dr. Seuss can teach something life-changing.
 
Mere Dreamer said:
When I used to think there was only one life I had a far greater sense of fear and urgency when it came to finding "love" in the limited, romantic sense.
I mentioned 'rejecting' mainstream Christianity - and this is one of the main reasons for it. What was that 'beer' commercial that used to blast on TV all the time? Grab all the

you can because you only get one crack at life.
"Baloney", is what I used to tell my friends when they repeated that catch phrase when reincarnation was brought up. Baloney, beer. Same thing.


My friends and I spoke about this 'sense of urgency' they felt driving and motivating them in their own pursuit of a 'life partner' and marriage and that sense of 'urgency' and 'fear' they felt in the undertow.


That ideology of 'one life' only does seem to have that undertow of fear attached to it when it comes to the pursuit of love. I also found people who 'gave up' on love and threw themselves to the 'dog's' (so to speak) and followed a very promiscuous lifestyle due to that ideology as well.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
dking777 said:
I feel (personally) that some of the teaching and writings have been 'tainted' by a 'bad impression' of reincarnation as something your supposed to 'avoid' if all possible. I feel there are those (spirits) who have found a path to the light - and they come back (reincarnate) into the 'darkness' to help others lost from the light find their way to it as well. As I told one person once,
"You lack of belief in reincarnation now - ain't going to stop you from having to come back into this world again, and to start all over to find the right way out."


I thought some people 'felt' their 'disbelief' in reincarnation was a way to avoid it in the future. If your out and about in the world causing hurt, injury, harm and pain to others as well as yourself - then - you might not have too much to look forward to in your next few incarnations. On the other hand, if your intent is to spread love, joy, happiness, harmony and peace around while your here - you would be looking forward to the chance to do that all over again in the next incarnation.
I feel this way, too, like even if I have the choice to stay outside of time I'd end up wanting to come back and help people. "Bad karma" and "life is punishment" turned me off from the idea of reincarnation for so many years. I couldn't believe life was (only) a curse.


Now, for some people I suppose life actually does play out as hell from beginning to end. This is part of why people believe in it, I suppose. I wonder whether this is a structured expression of evil, with the whole "demonic" element trying to eliminate light so the darkness can exist. Plenty of people seem to experience this and battle beings who personify that attitude.


When I take that "war between good and evil" inside my own experience of life this time around, the evil only has purchase on my own belief in lies, large or small. Once I recognize the truth as my own the lie is booted out so fast it's as if it had never been in me. There just isn't room for it anymore, and why on earth would I go back? Once the light is on, where is the darkness? Once love is present, where is the fear?


Others can affect my physical existence with their fearful belief in lies, of course, but if I die of their lies (or mine) I wake up to my spirit, outside of time. And since she is way ahead of me on the whole "knowing the truth" path, there is a sense of safety about that transition.


Part of my journey to freedom was the realization that Wisdom is another name for the Holy Spirit. I'm not sure what I was expecting to find in my search for her, but I was very surprised to discover that she had been with me (edit: making my process toward truth possible) all along. *laugh*
 
Mere Dreamer said:
Part of my journey to freedom was the realization that Wisdom is another name for the Holy Spirit. I'm not sure what I was expecting to find in my search for her, but I was very surprised to discover that she had been with me all along. *laugh*
This is something I was told time and time again by all the 'spirits' I walked and talked with during childhood. "We are always with you....just out of sight."


I felt this was true of all people and couldn't figure out the whole 'lost souls' concept. To me, that was an oxymoron thing to say - because what I knew of the 'soul' was - it was always safe and sound in heaven. I was the one doing the 'dirty work' and getting my feet wet in the world of man.


The only place we can get 'lost' is in our thoughts which exist only in our 'heads' or 'perception' while in the 'darkness of time.'


Of course, I knew (as a child) that I was heading for my own 'blackout' period (or amnesia) and I was terrified of this 'lost equation." I kept thinking (as a child) that if I did get 'lost' in my own mind of thinking - I would never be found again and never find my way back into the light I called home. Of course, it was all a part of the illusion the mental mind creates for itself while existing in that 'mental state' of being that comes with being human.


I never grew up with the idea that my "Supernal Mom" was the same "Supernal Mom" to every single soul in existence, past, present and future. I felt I had this intimate relationship which was exclusive to me and me alone. It was only in my adult life that I started coming to the realization that every single person I came across - she had a sincere love and interest in their spiritual growth - because - that was her child as well.


"My gawd Mom. How many kids do you have?"


How does she have the time to look after 8 billion kids in this world like she does? That is where the whole eternity thing comes into play and how her 'spirit' works outside the frame work of time - and can be there looking over the shoulder of 8 billion of her kids at the same time. That concept sort of blew me away when I started 'thinking' it over as a young adult. I just tried to focus on the sincere belief that her Spirit was constantly looking over my shoulder all the time - and tried not to think about all the other kids she had a heart to share with - to keep me from thinking she was too busy to tend to me and my needs.


Hard to imagine, but yeah, that is what I was led to believe. She is constantly looking over the shoulder of each and everyone of us at all times.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
dking777 said:
I felt I had this intimate relationship which was exclusive to me and me alone. It was only in my adult life that I started coming to the realization that every single person I came across - she had a sincere love and interest in their spiritual growth - because - that was her child as well.
That is mind-boggling to me also. This compassionate, loving consciousness that "considers my being," forming my existence.... The "breath of life" vocalizing my frequency, in one sense. One day I realized that the universe is still taking form within time, and then somehow it all fit. I don't consciously comprehend the invisible, but I feel how it works beneath understanding and I accept that mystery.


She tells me I am presently loved in every moment, and so is everyone else. In light of this fact, I get to align with her in loving everyone if I so choose. I can't encounter anything that is hidden from or apart from her, so I can confidently rely on her direction to guide me. There is inevitability to this, yet it is also freedom because her nature draws me to her.
 
Mere Dreamer said:
There just isn't room for it anymore, and why on earth would I go back? Once the light is on, where is the darkness? Once love is present, where is the fear?
This is it - isn't it. When it comes to the 'conflict between good and evil' - that is the 'secret weapon' of the foes of love. (Fear/doubt) I was told in my youth and early adult life - not to read the KJV of scripture until after discovering the hidden Gospels -and when I finally did - I found the significant scripture which summed up knowledge of spiritual life (including reincarnation) for me.

  • Hebrews 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.


My opinion of mainstream religion was never good. When I read this - I thought, 'what is all the fuss about.' The way it was expressed to me by 'spirit guides' in childhood was - a 'spiritual sense of fear' was associated with the main root of all evil - which was 'doubt.' (3. Archaic. to fear; be apprehensive about. 5. a feeling of uncertainty about the truth, reality, or nature of something. )


To me as a child, I felt that the truth and reality of a past life realization led a mind to a path leading beyond the 'fear/doubt/uncertainty' that comes with this physical body and life.


To discover and embrace a 'past life' memory within oneself is to discover a part of the 'eternal light' within that can not be extinguished by 'death.'


Sincerely


DKing
 
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