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Internally a hermit, and externally a prince

Ajay0

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Sikhism is one of the four Dharmic religions of India along with Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. It focuses on the harmonious balance of spirituality and materialism.

This concept is also known as Rajarshi in Hindu philosophy with Rajarshi meaning a 'royal saint', similar to the philosopher-king of Plato.

As per Guru Nanak , anyone who makes a honest and virtuous living in remembrance of Waheguru (God), and shares his wealth with his fellow beings as charity need not perform any other rituals or austerities.

This fact was highlighted when the sixth of ten Gurus of the Sikh religion, Guru Hargobind met the Hindu saint Samarth Ramdas.

When Ramdas questioned Guru Hargobind on his fine horse and elegant attire and asked what kind of saint was he, Guru Hargobind replied thus, "Internally a hermit, and externally a prince. Arms mean protection to the poor and destruction of the tyrant. Baba Nanak had not renounced the world but had renounced Maya".

Hinduism too considers the virtuous and saintly householder superior to the monk. The sage Tiruvalluvar commended that the monks too depend on their sustenance on the saintly householder who provides them with the necessities of food, medicine and shelter. Thus a part of the spiritual merit acquired by the monks is gained by the householder who supports them.

The king who rules his kingdom well and ensures the spiritual and material prosperity of his subjects, is said to gain more merit than a number of hermits.

Where-ever there is a Sikh Gurudwara anywhere in the world, you can also find a Langar or community kitchen where food is prepared and given freely to those in need. This is a major feature of its charity work.

In Syria, a Langar was set up by Sikh aid groups to feed the numerous refugees and Yazidis, a persecuted minority .


 
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This is an interesting point of view, a good starting point to state supporting or different opinions.

I don't quite understand the connection between the subject line and the opening post. The subject line seems to suggest a person that is "Internally a hermit, and externally a prince". I didn't identify it in the opening post.
 
I looked it up a little:

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Fully armed and riding a horse, the Guru had just returned from a hunting excursion. ‘I had heard that you occupied the gaddi of Guru Nanak?’ said Samarth Ramdas. Guru Nanak was a Tyagi sadhu – a saint who had renounced the world. You are wearing arms and keeping an army and horses. You allow yourself to be addressed as Sacha Padshah, the True King What sort of a Sadhu are you?’ asked the Maratha saint.

Guru Hargobind replied: ‘Internally a hermit and externally a prince. Arms mean protection to the poor and destruction to the tyrant. Baba Nanak had not renounced the world but had renounced Maya i.e. self and ego-

‘ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਕਹਿਆ ਬਾਤਨ ਫ਼ਕੀਰੀ ਜ਼ਾਹਰ ਅਮੀਰੀ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਗਰੀਬ ਕੀ ਰੱਖਿਆ ਜਰਵਾਣੇ ਕੀ ਭਖਿਆ. ਬਾਬਾ ਨਾਨਕ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਤਿਆਗਿਆ ਥਾ, ਮਾਇਆ ਤਿਆਗੀ ਥੀ |

These words of Guru Hargobind found a ready response In the heart of Ramdas, who, as quoted in “Pothi Panjah Sakhian’ spontaneously said, ‘this appealeth to my mind- “यह हमरे मन भावती है’. He found in the words of the Guru an expression of his own inner spirit and latent Ideas.

He seems to have realized that the Marathas, who had much in common with the people of Punjab in their physical and spiritual make-up could well imbibe the spirit of the Guru and collaborate with the Sikhs in resisting and vanquishing the Intolerant Mughals.
 
This is an interesting point of view, a good starting point to state supporting or different opinions.
Indeed..


Unfortunately it was a one off event that didn't persist.

To bring this into a reincarnation discussion, I think the wisdom here is that we are all equal and should seek to care for one another equally, which is what we're here to learn.
 
This is an interesting point of view, a good starting point to state supporting or different opinions.

I don't quite understand the connection between the subject line and the opening post. The subject line seems to suggest a person that is "Internally a hermit, and externally a prince". I didn't identify it in the opening post.

Guru Hargobind, who was the sixth Guru of the Sikhs, wore an elegant attire and horse which obviously denoted wealth and material prosperity.

Samarth Ramdas questioned Guru Hargobind on the same, as there is a prevalent misconception that spirituality and sainthood is associated with voluntary poverty and abstinence from worldly pleasures.

However this is not the case as I explained earlier with the religious concept of the Rajarshi indicating the householder having both spiritual and material prosperity, and Guru Hargobind embodied this concept.

The tenth Guru of the Sikhs, Guru Gobind Singh had stated, " My Sikhs shall enjoy the pleasures of the world, and at the same time will be detached from them. "

As per the Hindu scriptures of the Vedas, Ramayana and Bhagavad Gita, King Janaka was a king in ancient India who while administering his royal duties well and living in the midst of prosperity, luxury and pleasure, still attained enlightenment . Janaka is considered to be an ideal human being who attained the peaks of both material and spiritual prosperity , and is set as an example to the rest of humanity.

Janaka followed Karma Yoga (yoga of action), which is a spiritual path by which he performed all his duties in God-consciousness or Self-awareness/mindfulness which led to his enlightenment.

Even though a regal king, Janaka used to plough the field with his bare hands during the farming season which displayed his traits of humility and respect for manual labor.

As per Ramakrishha, Janaka was able to perform his professional duties in Self-awareness due to his spiritual exercises or austerities in youth, which enabled him to gain a certain degree of mastery over his mind and thereby balance and synthesize his spiritual and material duties.

There is an interesting story of King Janaka teaching wisdom to a monk .

 
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There is an interesting story of King Janaka teaching wisdom to a monk .


I just came across an insightful saying by Eckhart Tolle, which I felt can be placed here for perspective and insights in reference to the story of Janaka's teaching of constant remembrance of one's mortality.

"Western culture is deeply embedded in a denial of death. People rarely speak about it, and there is a collective avoidance of anything that reminds us of our mortality."
 
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