Knowing things that you "never knew"

[dr_what]

I always had argued that the Civil War was not over slavery, and that the Confederate States seceded because the feds were stepping in, in places they had no business. I found out quite a bit later in what, fifth grade? That this was how the Confederates felt. And Savannah, Georgia about that era is appealing.

i did the same! when i was a kid, i would always refer to it as the War for Southern Independence, even tho we always lived in the Northern states. when i 1st learned about the Civil War, i was in 5th grade and argued with my teacher that the North wasnt concerned about the slaves and the issue of slavery, they were mad because the South was becoming more economically prosperous due to the amount of cotton & other major crops coming out of the South, and if the North took away the slaves it'd make the South fall behind because they couldnt do all the fieldwork themselves. she wasnt too thrilled with me.


that was always my opinion, and i came to find out it was the opinion of quite a few Southerners around the time of the Civil War, whether it was a true fact that the North felt this way, it's an established fact that the majority of Southerners felt this way. if you go down South even today, especially the Deep South, quite a few still refer to it as the War for Southern Independence. when i was 15, i lived in Georgia and my US History teacher, when we learned about the subject, called it the War for Southern Independence too. this was southwestern GA near the FL border, so it was Deep South.

 

[pixarfan]

One of my professors who grew up in Texas had been taught that it was called the "War of Northern Aggression." (Technically, the South fired on Fort Sumter first).

 

[Shiftkitty]

Not to derail the thread, but I find it odd in myself that I feel no connection to the Civil War. To be sure it was a major event in the United States' history, and I would find it odd that someone who lived during that time in the United States wouldn't have some connection of some sort, but every time I try to search that era I can find myself nowhere, not even in another country.


I have my own opinions about the Civil War and its causes, but the last time I aired them it started a fight because I dared call into question the motives of Lincoln (who is apparently a deity to some) and painted the whole emancipation not as some great noble crusade in the name of humanity but rather as a legal trick that served a convenient purpose. (Slavery was dying out, albeit slowly, and I'm sure Lincoln would rather not have had a domestic war on his record, but pressures from all sides forced things.) I'm no authority on the matter, and it was merely an opinion, but apparently ol' Honest Abe is somewhat of a sacred cow. (FTR, I'm a Westerner.)

 

[Lynnette]

Hi, well, I have a few things I know which I really shouldn't.


Starting when I was very small, maybe 4/5- just starting school, I always went around picking flowers and leaves and making 'brews' and 'perfumes. As I grew older, my 'herb pickings; became more focused, and for example, I would stew marigold and pine leaves for insect bites etc. Thing was, nobody ever told me how or what to do, and I had no way of knowing what I did.


Another thing is how well I have learned to sew. My mother knits, and taught me when I was 3/4, but the only sewing she has done is finishing her knitted garments. Yet I begged and pestered for needle and thread as a kid, and made dresses and trousers for my dolls, and even teddy bears for my brothers, all without using a pattern. I have always been interested in knotwork too; have made myself a loom and handmade carpet; picked up bobbin lace after reading a short excerpt online; and quilt, rugwork, braid, cutwork and embroider. Again, no one ever taught me.


The other thing I have is I can pick up a musical instrument and quickly learn to play it. The only formal music teaching I have ever had was for the descant recorder from about 5-8 years old. I can play the classics from ear too, as although I can read music, I have had limited access to any, and indeed, can swiftly play practically any song I hear. Again, no one else in family plays any music, and other than the recorder, I have never been taught any.


It makes one wonder...

 

[hydrolad]

I too have no memories of a Past Life (PL) during the American Civil War (circa 1860-1865) but from an early age, I had an uncanny knack for anything Photographic in nature.I posed for my first formal sitting at the age of 6 during the First grade (see photo), and spent more time behind the camera than in front, the Photographer thought this was funny and he bribed me to pose for my picture, by letting me look through the lenses at the ground glass of a large view camera.When I became older around 11 or so, I asked for and received a large Darkroom Set (with enlarger) and proceeded to develop B & W film and print the negatives, my poor Grandmother was sure that I was going to blow up the house and all of us to kingdom come with those chemicals!Without bragging, by instinct I KNEW what to do in Photography, doing the right steps and anticipating the next move, and rarely reading the instructions, somehow, someway, I just knew my way around a Darkroom! As I got older, I slowly came to the conclusion that I perhaps had lived a PL as a Photographer, perhaps a travelling one, who took pictures of the soldiers connected with the Civil War and this training was remembered in later lives.I used the modern equipment of the day, however I especially had a love for the older view cameras with the bellows, ground glass, focusing cloths over the head, and so forth, but of course I could not afford one at the time.Sorry for the long post, but just some ramblings on a possible PL.



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[Shiftkitty]

I think that's real cool! I suck at the camera, but my husband loves photography and hopes to build his own darkroom.

 

[kemetic18]

One of my professors who grew up in Texas had been taught that it was called the "War of Northern Aggression."

:laugh: I had to laugh when I read this. I remember being in 3rd grade...


Teacher: "What war started in 1861?"


Me: "The War of Northern Aggression"


You could actually hear the crickets chirping as she stared at me. I guess no one else in New Hampshire called it that!:tongue:

 

[kmatjhwy]

Personally I am another who feels NO attachment to the American Civil War. But as concerning this present life and my family's geneology, I have ancestors who did fight on both sides of the Civil War. Now since so many have attachments to the Civil War, I have always found it interesting to myself that I have no attachments. And I am a westerner also with living here in Wyoming and loving it!


Now when I was little, the family lived in Jackson, Mississippi for several years in the 60's. It was sooooo interesting with both of my parents having been born and raised in the north. It seemed as if in Mississippi at that time just how many people would not celebrate the 4th of July for that was the day Vicksburg fell. And how many it seemed at that time were in some ways still in that Civil War fighting mood. Interesting even after all these years, I can still remember how many of the bands would play the song 'Dixie', again and again and again. We lived across the street from a high school at the time.


But personally this is because it seems I was with the American Indians living at that time. I have seen some memories (?) in my meditations of myself being a woman among the plains tribes (Cheyenne ?) and loving it and then the tribe being attacked by the blue coats which could have very well been the Massacre of the Cheyenne at Sand Creek. I have been attracted to all things concerning the American Indian since little bigtime!


This sounds interesting Hydrolad. And as for photography, I have for years in my wilderness wanderings been into photography. It is indeed one of the interests in this life. But I can just as easy it seems go on a hike and forget the camera as have the camera along personally.

 

[Delonada]

Well, thanks to the above poster I am now aware that suicide was not an uncommon way for men to avoid the draft during the 60's. The strange part for me is that I don't think I went through any kind of hell like pretty much every other suicide relates. I guess it has something to do with the mindset. Now that I think about it, I feel like I knew that it wouldn't raise very many eyebrows. "Just another hop-head ODing."

Considering how many PL cases where the individual(often children) died earlier from suicide there is no apparent hell.


The more I read about suicides, NDE and past lives the more I see that hell is a lie perpetrated by organizations that use fear to control people. Why should people go to hell when all the cards in their life were stacked against them?

 

[Shiftkitty]

There could be a positive aspect to Hell being a lie, though. It's probably the easiest thing for many to understand about why we shouldn't act like savage beasts to each other.


"Be good to each other."


"Why?"


"Because you should. It makes life easier to get along in."


"Screw that. That's for suckers. I'm in it for what I can get."


Some people need to be threatened in order to behave. There's an old saw that says "The only reason some people are alive is because it's illegal to shoot them." Maybe the same goes for many people. The only reason they even pretend to be good is because they fear Hell. It's sad that some people have to be treated that way, like little children who can't behave on their own, but that's the way it is.


Of course these days Satan and Hell are the best friends organized religion ever had, and the fear of such things is sure a big money-maker for unscrupulous people, but I think it's origins may be innocent.

 

[rjmarzano]

Knowing things that you "never knew"

I'd be very interested to know some of the things that any of you have recalled from past life memories that you were consciously unaware of in this life. For example, in my regression I revealed that one of my names' in a former life was Lisbet, and that I perished in a volcanic eruption in Ecuador in 1957.

Do you know which volcano it was:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_volcanoes_in_Ecuador

 

[ChrisR]

Hi rjmarzano


Thanks for asking, and thanks for the link! I believe that the volcano was called Sangay. I'm not too bad at remembering past life names, places etc., but the name of the volcano has always eluded me. After a bit of detective work and elimination with the information I already had, I was able to estimate the location of this volcano, although visitors descriptions give it as a difficult place to get to on foot ..... I think we knew all of the shortcuts!

 

[Cryscat]

Good reading!


There has been several times where I've done or said stuff and never knew where it came from.


Once I was mindlessly wandering in a mall and found myself in one of those shops that sell swords and that kind of stuff. Not only had I wandered in, but was pulling a sword out and inspecting it! I snapped out of it, put the sword back and slunk out of there like I had done something illegal! LOL.


Another time, back in my teenage years, I saw a statue of Akhenaten and told my mom that that face was way too long and that's not how he (Akhenaten) really looked. I had no idea how I knew that.

 

[Jody]

When I was a kid I saw a movie where someone was buried in a wall (I think it was Mickey from Rocky III, Rocky came to visit his grave) and I was surprised and somewhat disturbed by it -- I had no idea someone could be buried in a wall! But not long after that I started having several flashback type memories of "past lives," one of which I attended my own funeral and I was "buried in the wall" of "Bristol Cathedral" -- this was years before I'd been to Europe and saw this was a common practice (being from the western United States, I'd never seen churches that old).


As a young adult, I had a dream I was at the helm of a ship about to change direction and I looked down at a white bird-bath/pillar looking thing that housed the compass. I'd never been on an old ship before but it turns out the bird-bath looking thing is called a binnacle, and that's where they put the compass on old ships.

 

[rjmarzano]

Knowing things that you "never knew"

Hi rjmarzano
Thanks for asking, and thanks for the link! I believe that the volcano was called Sangay. I'm not too bad at remembering past life names, places etc., but the name of the volcano has always eluded me. After a bit of detective work and elimination with the information I already had, I was able to estimate the location of this volcano, although visitors descriptions give it as a difficult place to get to on foot ..... I think we knew all of the shortcuts!

Interesting.


This is a volcano that seems to be constantly erupting based on what I read on the internet.


When it killed you was it like a gigantic explosion or more like just a smothering cloud of ash ?


Volcanic ash is very dangerous to breath in I think. It's like breathing in tiny pieces of jagged glass.


What do you remember about it when it killed you ?

 

[rjmarzano]

Another time, back in my teenage years, I saw a statue of Akhenaten and told my mom that that face was way too long and that's not how he (Akhenaten) really looked. I had no idea how I knew that.

Are you implying that the Egyptians didn't create Akhenaten's statue correctly because it doesn't really look like him ?

 

[dr_what]

Are you implying that the Egyptians didn't create Akhenaten's statue correctly because it doesn't really look like him ?

i saw on the history channel that they didnt like Akhenaten because he only worshiped Amun (the Sun) and wouldnt let people worship the gods they always had worshiped and forced the one-god thing on them, so they exaggerated his features. but then according to that 1 famous Egyptian archaeologist who had his own show on the channel (i cant remember his name) that was why he looked so different from EVERY other pharaoh. they didnt want him to be honored since they hated him so much, so they made him look closer to what he actually looked like in real life instead of the usual generic pharaoh look that all the other pharaohs had in their statues. but that's just what i had seen on documentaries. i never had a PL in Egypt (that i know of lol), so i cant say what he looked like. Cryscat, that's cool tho. do you remember anything about the possible PL in Egypt?

 

[ChrisR]

This is a volcano that seems to be constantly erupting based on what I read on the internet.

It's a volcano that is not constantly erupting, but constantly active according to what I've read, I think it last erupted in 2008:

When it killed you was it like a gigantic explosion or more like just a smothering cloud of ash ?

As I have no experience of anything like it in my present life, it's difficult for me to say what constitute's a 'large' explosion. It certainly wasn't anywhere near St. Helens proportions, but, comparing it to other footage that I've seen, the eruption that killed me was a very small one. Unfortunately, I was in the wrong place at the wrong time .... and it seemed 'huge' to me at the time.

What do you remember about it when it killed you ?

From what I can remember, there was no pain, just a stinging 'jolt', like an electric shock throughout my entire body that lasted for a millisecond before it was over, it pretty much killed me instantly.

 

[Mammatus]

I was outside one summer and these two HUGE planes flew over our house going to Wright Patterson, and I pointed up and was like "Hey, Stealth Bombers!".


I'd never seen nor heard of the stealth bomber before, but I just knew that's what they were. Then I saw a stealth bomber on tv, and knew I was right.

 

[Blueheart]

i saw on the history channel that they didnt like Akhenaten because he only worshiped Amun (the Sun) and wouldnt let people worship the gods they always had worshiped and forced the one-god thing on them, so they exaggerated his features. but then according to that 1 famous Egyptian archaeologist who had his own show on the channel (i cant remember his name) that was why he looked so different from EVERY other pharaoh.

Akhenaten worshiped the Aten, hence the name he took for himself. Amun is the god of what is hidden. As for the change in art style, Akhenaten, as King, would have had to fully endorse all depictions of himself. No one really knows why Akhenaten broke with artistic tradition.

 

[dr_what]

lol, i meant Aten. i knew it was some A-word.

 

[hydrolad]

To dr what:


OMG, dr what, I can't believe it, you said the A-Word in mixed company [big grin], well actually the A-Word is alright, it's the R-Word that still gets some people really upset and vocal in their arguments.


The R-Word I'm referring to is "Reincarnation" and by it's very nature it has the distinct possibility of developing into a discussion ranging from a mild mention to a full blown theological dissertation.


I would only hope that we could focus on peace instead, rather than arguing over religious dogma (which has started some wars by itself), but sadly wars also start when the vocal arguing stops, and then the bullets (and other projectiles) start flying!

 

[Cryscat]

Are you implying that the Egyptians didn't create Akhenaten's statue correctly because it doesn't really look like him ?

I think it was the style that I was having a problem with. The style during that time peroid was to have the large statures with extra long faces. I think that was the problem with me. I didn't like it at all.

 

[rjmarzano]

Knowing things that you "never knew"

I think it was the style that I was having a problem with. The style during that time peroid was to have the large statures with extra long faces. I think that was the problem with me. I didn't like it at all.

Well if you can remember a past life in Egypt when those statues were created see if you recall HOW they were created.


This book by Chris Dunn talks about some of the statues in Egypt:


Lost Technologies of Ancient Egypt: Advanced Engineering in the Temples of the Pharaohs by Christopher Dunn (Jun 24, 2010)


Dunn thinks advanced machining techniques were used to create these statues. He says he can see the tool marks and things like that. And these weren't simple hand tools or chisels.


That book was a little too technical for me but engineers like Dunn will probably like it.


For example it's not very easy to create a granite box where the four interior corners are perfectly aligned. Dunn's years of experience from working in manufacturing notices things like this. He says our modern technology of today would be hard pressed to duplicate even something this simple.


This puts something like the Great Pyramid on a whole other level. This pyramid far surpasses our manufacturing capabilities of today.


Do you remember what state the pyramids were in when you were alive at that time ?

 

[Shiftkitty]

On the other hand, I'm of the school of thought that says we haven't lost sight of their machining, only of their creativity. Just because we, in all or infinite knowledge (sarc!), can't figure out how they did it with what tools of theirs we can find (never mind the ones we haven't found yet, or mis-identified as having 'religious significance') doesn't mean that they couldn't figure out how to do it. I have a friend who is an archaeologist (digging around Syria recently) who admits that there is a tendency to underestimate the intelligence and imaginations of the ancients.

 

[Koshka]

I read a lot about History in the first place, so it's hard for me to rationalize believing that I genuinely had never heard of something. I'm also went to school for psychology, so as I think about these sorts of things, I try to weed out what could have been suggested to me. It's all so subjective, my soft-science brain has trouble drawing definitive lines. I've posted before about my Tibetan life- the pre mortem third eye opening. I had no idea about that. But the rest of my lives I often question.

 

[rjmarzano]

Knowing things that you "never knew"

I have a friend who is an archaeologist (digging around Syria recently) who admits that there is a tendency to underestimate the intelligence and imaginations of the ancients.

The problem with your friend's argument is it was the ancient Egyptians themselves who said gods came from the stars and built the pyramids. When people make statements like that they are really defending their own conventional views that they were taught in college. People write thesis and get PhDs about how how the pyramids were built by thousands of slaves using manual labor, something which would have been totally impossible.


This book by Chris Dunn shows how the Great Pyramid was at one time a working machine like a sort of power plant:


The Giza Power Plant : Technologies of Ancient Egypt by Christopher Dunn (Aug 1, 1998)


That's probably the greatest 'new age' type of book of all time. Dunn's theories are hard to disagree with and he is very convincing. Conventional Egyptologists however never will agree with it because to admit that Dunn is correct would invalidate all the crap they learned about in college for many years. If Dunn's power plant theory is true this changes everything about the true origin of the Egyptian culture. There is no way the primitive people back then could have done this.


That's why there are certain components of the Great Pyramid like the so called 'air shafts' that have always puzzled Egyptologists. Those components can only be understood when the pyramid is viewed as a machine.


Graham Hancock's book also shows how the pyramids contain features which do not have any aesthetic or other purpose so this raises questions about the reason for building these features into the pyramids:


Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock (Apr 2, 1996)


One of the pyramids in Mexico contains a layer of mica in the base. This mica layer was not visible to an outside observer so this raises questions about why it was needed. The mica probably had some sort of functional purpose for how the pyramid machine worked. As I recall this pyramid may have somehow captured energy from moving water.


It's interesting how the pyramids in Egypt are different from the ones on Mexico. They are similar but yet the Mexican builders had their own unique style.


It appears also that in Mexico the rocks used to build some of the massive walls were heated so they became almost molten and then placed together and cooled. This created very intense bonds between the stones that are still waterproof to this day.


There's a lot of debate these days between conventional academics and so called 'alternative' authors and researchers.


The conventional views aren't exactly based on rock solid evidence either. This is a mistaken assumption some people make. They find a few scrolls with the names of pharaohs written on them and take gigantic leaps of faith to come up with their theories.

 

[Shiftkitty]

We're going to be on opposite sides of this one, I'm afraid, and I have to side with the guy who works in the field.


Not trying to diminish your views, but I had a funny thought on one of your sentences:


"...is it was the ancient Egyptians themselves who said gods came from the stars and built the pyramids."


My first thought was "And a thousand rednecks swear they saw UFOs over Aunt Myrtle's corn patch while they were out checking on the still."


Again, not trying to start anything, just a funny thought I wanted to share.

 

[Dan79]

In a past life regression, i saw myself as a 7 or 8 year old jewish girl coming home from school walking in Germany around 1937. I had a strong feeling i was in Germany, but the houses architecture on that street made me question if it was Holland instead. I reafirmed it was in Germany. The name Potsdam came to my mind very strongly. Later on that life, one night, i was scared with the bombings at my city. I could see the explosions through the attic window. I died that night, my house was hit by a bomb.


1. I had never heard of Potsdam before ( i am from South America). Surfing on the internet later i found out there is an area in Potsdam named "Dutch quarter" and seeing the picture i immediately reconigzed the houses i had seen.


2. I also recognized the school uniform style and the way my hair was combed when i saw pictures on the internet of children from that time.


3. I also found this on wikipedia: "Potsdam was severely damaged in bombing raids during World War II."

 

[ChrisR]

Welcome to the forum Dan, and thanks for sharing :thumbsup: