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My first past life regression

MarkF

MarkF

apprentice soul
Hi all,

I am so excited. I have just had my 1st PLR. What a success!

I was a Roman Soldier in around 370ad . Gold helmet, red suit/armour (which apparently means I was a commander of some sort). Saw battles with the huns, Chariots racing along (just like ben hur:rolleyes: )

Protecting villagers, whose huts were being burnt and pillaged by huns.

Up to this point I felt that I could have been just "making it up as I went along" until this next point in the session!

I was then in a Roman arena where they fed christians to the lions and the crowd cheered on and the Roman leaders nodded in approval.

I felt physically sick and very emotional (actually started crying right there on the couch!!!) as I saw everyone cheering on as I watched a lion mutilate, tear apart and eat a poor Christian. When the next christian was pushed into the arena, I said to the crowd “NO this is wrong. How can you all let this happen. How can you do this to another person just because of their beliefs? I won’t stand for this anymore and I refuse to compromise my values being a soldier anymore”

I then helped the Christian to safety. The other soldiers were instructed to circle me with weapons aimed as a traitor. I then said to some of them “I know some of you feel the same way, stand with me” but they were too cowardly. In the end I said to them "Do what you have to do, I'm at peace with myself and if I have to die in the process, well that's fine."

I didn't see my death but that was the obvious conclusion. It is so amazing that I was so at peace with my own death but felt so very emotional when I knew that christian was going to suffer a terrible death and people were cheering the gruesome scene.This is something I feel very strongly about in this lifetime (death/suffering becoming a sport)

There were other experiences but this is the gist of it. I am so happy that I have finally had this experience. :cool

The messages my PLR counsellor helped me see: Don’t compromise your own values for others, but respect and forgive them for having their own. (as in the people who cheered on as another person died a violent death just because of his beliefs were different to theirs) My lesson in this life :- don’t judge and forgive others who don’t have the same values as me or try to force me to compromise my values.
 
Congratulations, Mark! :)


I'm glad you had a good experience and felt you learned some important lessons. :thumbsup:


We can sometimes get the dates and other details wrong. I don't think Christians were persecuted anymore around 370, but I could be wrong. But don't let that discourage you, as it's not the most important thing in your experience. :)


Karoliina
 
Hehe, that date was googled by my son


after I regaled my family of the experience


I didn't actually know the dates...


Thanks for the congrats BTW
 
Congratulations Mark, it sounds like you got your moneys worth there :thumbsup: It must be wonderful to have done it


- I still haven't :rolleyes:


It sounds like a very interesting experience as well. I hope you'll share more memories of that life - I know that you have some fellow ex-Romans among the members here, perhaps you can get something out of reading their threads? :)
 
Mark,


Off the bat, all respect man. I wouldn't write this if I didn't think it might help you to know this now.


Rome, Roman military history, the whole nine yards, is one of my main interests. I may have had a Roman life, but I don't have any memory on it. I just really love this stuff.


Spend some time on the internet, on the historical websites and be careful which ones you pick. I don't want to burst bubbles, but almost all of your ideas are modern ideas of Rome.


I am not saying I don't believe you had a Roman life, if you feel really strongly about it but I think that hypnosis works with information we have in our brains. Any information we have there. There is a leftover idea from World War One that got into a lot of history books, of Germans called Huns. But that was what they called the WWI army. Real Huns were Eurasians that didn't invade the Empire until really late in the game, after Christianity was the official religion. The Germanic tribes who invade Rome, the Goths and Visigoths, also invaded during Christian times.


Christians, if they were ever persecuted during the Empire, were probably never actually fed to lions, and those we know were killed, like Paul, were killed for sedition, not religion.


Look at this page about what you would have worn - that is on the money: see if you recognize the helmet you wore -


http://www.legionxxiv.org/equipment/


Again I'm not saying I don't believe you, but hypnosis is not some kind of truth serum. It works with what you know already, whether it is memory or other ideas. The memories and other stuff have got to mix together somehow. That's just the way it is. If you've got other ways of getting the memories, if you had dreams or anything , I don't know I haven't read that much of your posts yet, but you may want backup on what happened here.


enyeo
 
Congratulations Mark. It is a major step to see past lives and to understand their meanings for you today. What a wonderful statement about your character back then.


As for the details, well sometimes they are clouded by our 21st century interpretations. But never the less, once you recognize this you can study your past life more closely via libraries and internet. You were obviously a Roman soldier during a time Christians were brutally treated, research this! I too lived in that time...but I can't give you a date... it's simply an era I recalled in PLR.


All things in your life are lessons. Take them and learn... even this.


Welcome to the club!!:thumbsup:


Tinkerman
 
HI enyeo I just want to point out something; you said:

I'm not saying I don't believe you, but hypnosis is not some kind of truth serum. It works with what you know already, whether it is memory or other ideas.
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This is not always the case. I know a woman who spoke in ancient languages; the sessions were taped and later verified by linguists and in one case verified by monks living in India. She had a high school diploma, had never been to any other country or studied any language.


Regardless, the information she provided the researcher was verified, was not recorded in any Western books, and had nothing to do with her current life experiences. In fact the monks were shocked when asked about what she had said. They asked "where did she get this information." When told about the source, they bowed in respect.


Bottom-line - it depends how deep into an altered state the person goes and what their past life information is. ;)
 
Congratulations Mark! I am happy that your first regression was an awesome experience. I am still waiting to find a regressionist in my area. So far I've been unsuccessful.


I am happy that you did so well. I look forward to reading of any new memories that you may have. :thumbsup:
 
as I said


As I said, up until the point where I saw the lion and the christian/villager (whomever they were) I could have rationalised that I was making it up to go along with the session. But that emotion that sprang up in me at what I knew was going to happen to that victim could not have been manufactured.


I'm 100% satisfied that I had a PLR (even if my sequence of events is off- I was never very good at 'details':rolleyes: ) My counsellor is also a history buff and said she felt I have probably had more than one life as a roman as I appeared to be flashing from one time period to another..


Bottom line I guess, is it was my experience and mine to believe. Not yours. My sharing it here was in good faith that I was in a supportive enviroment and didn't have to substantiate my experiences. :butbut:

enyeo said:
Mark,
Off the bat, all respect man. I wouldn't write this if I didn't think it might help you to know this now.


Rome, Roman military history, the whole nine yards, is one of my main interests. I may have had a Roman life, but I don't have any memory on it. I just really love this stuff.


Spend some time on the internet, on the historical websites and be careful which ones you pick. I don't want to burst bubbles, but almost all of your ideas are modern ideas of Rome.


I am not saying I don't believe you had a Roman life, if you feel really strongly about it but I think that hypnosis works with information we have in our brains. Any information we have there. There is a leftover idea from World War One that got into a lot of history books, of Germans called Huns. But that was what they called the WWI army. Real Huns were Eurasians that didn't invade the Empire until really late in the game, after Christianity was the official religion. The Germanic tribes who invade Rome, the Goths and Visigoths, also invaded during Christian times.


Christians, if they were ever persecuted during the Empire, were probably never actually fed to lions, and those we know were killed, like Paul, were killed for sedition, not religion.


Look at this page about what you would have worn - that is on the money: see if you recognize the helmet you wore -


http://www.legionxxiv.org/equipment/


Again I'm not saying I don't believe you, but hypnosis is not some kind of truth serum. It works with what you know already, whether it is memory or other ideas. The memories and other stuff have got to mix together somehow. That's just the way it is. If you've got other ways of getting the memories, if you had dreams or anything , I don't know I haven't read that much of your posts yet, but you may want backup on what happened here.


enyeo
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Hi Mark,


I think you had a great first experience. :D I hope you plan on going back and trying again. We can certainly uncover a lot about ourselves from doing pl work.

But that emotion that sprang up in me at what I knew was going to happen to that victim could not have been manufactured.
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The emotion you experienced is a good indicator - one of the strongest ways we can identify an acutal pl memory, in fact. ;)

My sharing it here was in good faith that I was in a supportive enviroment and didn't have to substantiate my experiences.
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It's a hard thing to come out and share something so personal - so I give you complete kudos for doing so. I used to have a hard time sharing pl memories, even though I'd been remembering since childhood. I learned by posting - that there are always going to be people who question my experiences - but you know what? That's okay. We are the only ones who have to be satisfied with the outcome - and we don't need to prove anything to anyone else.


As Deborah illustrated with her friend's experience - not everything is recorded in the history books. And not everything that is recorded is accurate. I've also had experiences - validated by other people - that were not recorded in history books, but I was able to work with several people to find validation.


Keep working at it - keep searching, recording, questioning, meditating and learning. It's your spiritual path - and only you know the answers. ;)


Best of luck, and please keep us posted!


Aili
 
Hi Mark,


I agree with Aili. This is an experience only you can fully understand. Not one of us has the power to see into the memories of another.


We offer each other our stories so that we might better understand the paths we're on. As I said in my earlier post it is not uncommon for us to describe our memories in the person we are now, in the voice we are now and with the descriptive verbiage we know and understand now. It is very understandable, to me, that your memories may have some sequential disparities. I have experienced it myself. In one memory from PLR, I could give no date, only what I saw and experienced. It is a starting point for further investigation.


I think Eneyo offered some helpful information for you to follow-up on. The web site he posted was fantastic. Given his professed knowledge and similar past life perhaps he has more information to help you. This forum is a great place to explore your past lives, and all of the members here are in the club with you. I think constructive discourse will only help you find the answers you need. Take what he offered and delve into that world you once lived. It's a wonderful gift you've discovered! Thanks again for sharing. I look forward to hearing more...as I said I'm certain I was once there too.


Tinkerman
 
Congratulations MarkF! Very exciting for you to have had this experience. Welcome to the club.


The fact that you felt sick and were crying during the experience is pretty intense. I don't get that from any kind of fantasies I might conjure up and I have a good imagination. I can imagine a lion eating someone (I have seen nature shows) but I don't get revolted by that in any physical way, such as you describe, but I was a pretty tough SOB back than and would have probably been one of those cheering and applauding.


You know best what you have experienced. The mind is a tricky piece of equipment and sometimes these recalls can feel similar to imagination or dreams - especially when you are not used to ascribing past life memories to various fleeting thoughts and images. Sometimes there is a bit of symbolism built in there, sometimes... who knows? But deep down you just know inside you whether the experience feels real and visceral and true. Don't be dismayed by people who might question you (and people will, have no fear).


Here are some pics of Roman armour for you. Was the metal part red, or the fabric part?


Enyeo, it is often the case that past life recalls turn out to be more accurate than the current accepted historical teachings once a bit more research has been done into people's claims. You may be interested in taking a look at some of Helen Wambach's work. People would often give historical details that did not seem to make sense, but later turned out to be dead accurate.


Don't worry, you are perfectly OK to express your opinion. It can be hard to come to grips with all this stuff. I know you are very interested in this period, but bear in mind, all sorts of whacky things have happened throughout history - such as a Roman legionary standing up for a Christian - which are way stranger than fiction. I read the newspaper every day and sometimes think if someone was telling a past life story about some of the incidents I read about they would no doubt strain credulity! Weird, peculiar and uncharacteristic things happen all the time. It's called life and it's often very strange.


Either way, and I have had this conversation with many people many times (believe me) whether there is "any such thing" as reincarnation, whether these experiences people have are past life memories, symbollic dreams, elaborate psychodramas, or messages from the id, the important thing is the meaning they have for the individual and what the individual decides to do with that information into the future.


This is excellent advice:

The messages my PLR counsellor helped me see: Don’t compromise your own values for others, but respect and forgive them for having their own. (as in the people who cheered on as another person died a violent death just because of his beliefs were different to theirs) My lesson in this life :- don’t judge and forgive others who don’t have the same values as me or try to force me to compromise my values.
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Hey, it's all an illusion anyway (at one level). :)
 
S'ok. Sorry, my response was a little blunt


I guess I'm a little tender as I've had such an experience (it was really life-changing for me) and I'm a bit emotional about it. :thumbsup: :D


I'll follow up those links you sent.


Thanks.

enyeo said:
My apologies, Mark.
enyeo
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I think we all feel protective of our PL experiences, and get hurt if they are questioned. It's understandable, but it's also good to hear from others - once the hurt feelings fade, it's good to question your own experience yourself.


When I started my "PL journey" and didn't know yet how to exactly separate true PL experiences from others (it's still difficult sometimes!), I was pretty much taking everything I was getting for granted. Later I've found out there were also false memories and facts (we don't always remember things right even from this life), but what I'm trying to get to here is that all the experiences so far have proved to hold some important meaning. I may have mixed some past lives with each other or got the date, country, person or name wrong, but I don't think I've ever experienced anything that was complete bulk or untrue. Not that I know of anyway.


So just keep up the good work, Mark, but be also critical for your own sake. And Enyeo, I know you didn't mean no harm, but was trying to help. :thumbsup:


I think this is a very good thread! :)


Karoliina
 
Thanks everyone for the replies


and no offense to enyeo, after some reflection, I realise you meant no malice and you obviously know your history.


I am by no means a history buff or one for noting the finer details. Who knows when the time period was???? I just assumed the lion's victim was a christian, he may have been just a villager??? The helmet was gold and costume red as tanguerra provided here


I'll try to clarify the details as I remember them!


As far as the PLR counsellor's advice, Yes she is a wonderful, ethical-to-the-core lovely soul. If anyone in Aus wants her contact details, please let me know. I'd be happy to endorse her to anyone on here. We are in brisbane BTW.

tanguerra said:
Congratulations MarkF! Very exciting for you to have had this experience. Welcome to the club.
The fact that you felt sick and were crying during the experience is pretty intense. I don't get that from any kind of fantasies I might conjure up and I have a good imagination. I can imagine a lion eating someone (I have seen nature shows) but I don't get revolted by that in any physical way, such as you describe, but I was a pretty tough SOB back than and would have probably been one of those cheering and applauding.


You know best what you have experienced. The mind is a tricky piece of equipment and sometimes these recalls can feel similar to imagination or dreams - especially when you are not used to ascribing past life memories to various fleeting thoughts and images. Sometimes there is a bit of symbolism built in there, sometimes... who knows? But deep down you just know inside you whether the experience feels real and visceral and true. Don't be dismayed by people who might question you (and people will, have no fear).


Here are some pics of Roman armour for you. Was the metal part red, or the fabric part?


http://www.4halloweencostumes.com/default.asp?group=Romsold&Cat=A


http://ecs.lewisham.gov.uk/youthspace/ca/roman%20home%20page/page3.htm


Enyeo, it is often the case that past life recalls turn out to be more accurate than the current accepted historical teachings once a bit more research has been done into people's claims. You may be interested in taking a look at some of Helen Wambach's work. People would often give historical details that did not seem to make sense, but later turned out to be dead accurate.


Don't worry, you are perfectly OK to express your opinion. It can be hard to come to grips with all this stuff. I know you are very interested in this period, but bear in mind, all sorts of whacky things have happened throughout history - such as a Roman legionary standing up for a Christian - which are way stranger than fiction. I read the newspaper every day and sometimes think if someone was telling a past life story about some of the incidents I read about they would no doubt strain credulity! Weird, peculiar and uncharacteristic things happen all the time. It's called life and it's often very strange.


Either way, and I have had this conversation with many people many times (believe me) whether there is "any such thing" as reincarnation, whether these experiences people have are past life memories, symbollic dreams, elaborate psychodramas, or messages from the id, the important thing is the meaning they have for the individual and what the individual decides to do with that information into the future.


This is excellent advice:


Hey, it's all an illusion anyway (at one level). :)
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Mark, just want to say again I'm sorry, glad we are ending on a good note.


I'm not going to be staying. But good luck with your future regressions.


Thanks guys.


Neil
 
Hi Neil,


I hope that you’ll consider staying and continuing to participate. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions, providing alternative views -- and sharing information for a possible validation is appreciated. ;)


I know I’ve learned to find the value in having people question my experiences – it has made me look deeper within and taught me how important it is to me personally – to find accurate validations for my experiences.


So, I hope you'll stay and keep questioning, sharing and learning.


Sincerely,


Ailish
 
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