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My story. The holocaust.

Hi argonne1918 and BriarRose,


thanks for your interests. To be able to know which place I have been in my last life and be able to visit this place in this life was quite helpful. Many new memories resurfaced in connection with the visits and I was also able to check if there was validation for them in several cases. It is a bad place and I always needed to overcome some resistence first before I visited it the next time. The most strange feeling I have there and that kind of draws me there too is that I feel more complete as a soul there. Something in me recognizes this place as something from the past where I used to be more in one piece. They really ripped my soul apart there and I am still collecting the pieces again.
 
Spar said:
I'm pretty certain that a sudden change in philosophy brought up the memories. I'm not sure why, but my guess is that what I have now started to believe is more in tune with what I believed/felt in that lifetime and for some reason it came up. Or, maybe anger about what my current philosophy is now... which is basically Atheism. For the majority of my life I've believed in karma... maybe something about that was too upsetting to my subconscious? I dunno, that sounds sort of crazy but that's all I got.
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Doesn't sound the least bit crazy. Sounds perfectly plausible to me.

Spar said:
I looked at the clothes I was wearing, a long black coat, a long black skirt, a patterned scarf on my head, which I instantly thought was Turkish, but now I think was maybe Polish.
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Just a little fashion note, it's likely you had a paisley scarf. The paisley pattern was very popular at about this time. It originated in Persia, which could be why you thought of it as 'Turkish', or maybe were wearing it in the 'Turkish' style even though you were Polish, hence the confusion?

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No doubt this was very 'chic' at the time.
 
Along with scarves; it was not at all uncommon to see women in Eastern Europe wearing headscarves. In fact the farther east you go the more common it seems to be and in many places is part of the traditional folk dress that people wore more frequently then than they do now.


Google "Polish Folk Scarves" and you'll see some really intricate ( and very lovely ) scarves based off of traditional patterns that would and could have been used around those times. Do any patterns seem familiar? And can you remember anything else about your outfit at that time?
 
Spar said:
They weren't Nazi soldiers. I'm not really sure what they were. They were wearing green I think, and there was something unusual about their hats. I remember thinking they were the police. [---]
I've now done a lot of research online and I'm not certain it's Poland, I was never really sure of that. I think I was in eastern Europe somewhere. I just finished reading two memoirs about women who had been prisoners during the holocaust, and one of the memoirs was very close to what I saw, ("I have lived a thousand lives" by Livia Bitton-Jackson) and she was from Hungary. That seemed much more accurate to my dream. She even talks of being sent to a very small ghetto where many people were forced to live in a synagogue, which is like what I saw, only I thought it was a church.
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Here's a link about the Arrow Cross movement and their rule of Hungrary during late 1944/early 1945: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party#Rise_to_power
Before the Arrow Cross rule the German army invaded Hungrary during the spring and summer of 1944 - they had help from the Hungarian gendarmerie in persecuting the jews. The Hungarian gendarmerie, called "csend?rség" and founded in 1881 still had funny looking hats through the 40's: http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=hu&tl=en&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://tortenelemportal.hu/2011/02/csend-es-rend-a-magyaroktol-tanult-a-vilag/


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Mayby that's the police that took you away for some type of forced labour?


It's important to understand deep down that you're not to blame for whatever happened to your then daughter. You weren't in power to do anything to help her - you wouldn't have been able to flee with her, and most likely you didn't live long after your attempted flight.
 
Hi Spar,


I really think I was very possibly might have been a European Jewish teenage girl somewhere in Europe during WWII and the Holocaust in the middle of the twentieth century because of might what might have been past life memories in the form of past life dreams.


In the dreams, I did not see what I looked like but, my emotions in the dream were very intense in the second part of the first dream.


In the beginning of the dream, I remembered if the Nazis came it to our house it was my job to take my siblings into one of the bedrooms and go hide somewhere where the Nazis could not find us. Then one day the Nazis came and knocked at our front door and my Dad opened the door (My Dad had brown hair and I think he might have been wearing a kippah/yarmulke.). That is when I went and took all my siblings (When I came into get my siblings, I remember two of them were like twins, they were both brother and sister, they both had brown hair, they were very little at that time, and they jumping on the bed.) and hid in the one of the bedrooms somewhere.


Then in the second part of the dream, me and all my siblings were playing and hanging out with our Jewish friends but, then all of a sudden...one of our friends shouted "The Nazis are rounding up the Jews!" and all of our friends ran and went to go hide. Me and siblings were the only ones that did not run and go hide because I was really afraid that we might separate from each other in all the running, hiding, and confusion that one of us might have caught and taken away by the Nazis and we would never ever see each other again. So, there I was standing there holding and hugging all my siblings with all my might because I was really afraid that I was possibly never ever going to see them ever again.


Then in the third part of the dream, our town was having a anti-Semitic parade and they were making fun of the Jews. In that part of the dream, I remember a group of children throwing a bucket of white paint at a little Jewish boy and saying and shouting "Drink your milk baby!" and laughing at him. Then the dream ended.


In the second dream, me and a lot of Jewish people (Including what I think to be a Ultra-Orthodox rabbi.) were carrying this thing to a Jewish synagogue or somewhere and trying not to get caught by the Nazis. Then in the second part of the dream, I remember this man was going to get my youngest brother (Who was playing with ABC blocks at the time.) and take him to a concentration camp because the Nazis really wanted him because he had blond hair, had blue eyes, and because he was a identical twin (Even though his identical twin died in childbirth.). Then in the third part of the dream, I remember my and some Jews were in the back of a truck driving up to a concentration camp. Then the dream ended. I do not know what happened to my youngest brother and whatever my family survived the Holocaust or not. :(
 
I'm so sorry in the reason of your suffering! This memory has to be really painful for you.


I'm not sure, if you were Polish. May you describe the landscape and the place you arrived to?


My PL was not a Jewish victim, just the opposite - German. But I used to help people in need, as a doctor, for example Jews, Poles, Gypsies. In my house there were around five people (Elsa, my wife, wasn't really happy... ;) ) but, of course, that... I'm too polite to describe him... Himmler has to be known about it and made me to sent those people to death and work in concentration camp as doctor. Firstly, I thought 'It could be worse, I'll be able to help people' - haha, what a mistake. They made me take part in cruel experiments on prisoners.


Do you remember your life before being catched?
 
VikingGirlTBird said:
In the beginning of the dream, I remembered if the Nazis came it to our house it was my job to take my siblings into one of the bedrooms and go hide somewhere where the Nazis could not find us. Then one day the Nazis came and knocked at our front door and my Dad opened the door (My Dad had brown hair and I think he might have been wearing a kippah/yarmulke.). That is when I went and took all my siblings (When I came into get my siblings, I remember two of them were like twins, they were both brother and sister, they both had brown hair, they were very little at that time, and they jumping on the bed.) and hid in the one of the bedrooms somewhere.
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VikingGirl,


I had a vision something like that too where all the homes in the neighborhood were being visited like that. The name that came up was Biberach, which on the map is both a town and a district.


I placed the date of the event as being in 1938 (I was orphaned at about 10). My mother in that life is the same I have today and we traced her immediate reincarnation following her death in a medical lab where SS doctors were... (enough said) and she was born in 1938.


After losing my loved ones like that, my mindset was to fight back and become involved with the Jewish Resistance where we inflicted much property damage, mainly by blowing up railway bridges and tunnels in "good timing".


By now I have mostly detached from the events of that incarnation but it did explain a lot of things I was dealing with in my childhood years; the searing migraines, extreme anxiety attacks, and a morbid fear of losing my mother.


The curious thing about it is the group karma that has followed. In my community alone there are at least 8 individuals who were part of my entourage in the Jewish Resistance, including the one who had been my older sister in that life and with whom I died by asphyxiation in a fire as a bombing raid took place.
 
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Another Holocaust Past Life


I'm so relived to hear these stories. I've struggled with mine in different ways ever since I can remember. Early on, I was diagnosed with PTSD, Anxiety/Panic Disorder and ADHD. My parents were of a Protestant background so the thought of my struggles coming from a past life were not evan a thought:) When I was younger, I would have horrible nightmares about Nazi's...they would keep me up for days. Now as I'm in my latter 30's, my dreams have become more pointed.


The dream starts now where I am living in a small village. The scenery is lush and green. I get the feeling that economically the village is mostly middle class. I have an older sister and an old best friend that turns into a boyfriend in my early teens. Then my boyfriend leaves the village to go to school and to volunteer for a military organization. His parents were quite proud. He comes back to the village as a military officer in a black uniform with red accents. He informs the village that our life is changing and requires that my sister and I live in the local jail (used as a makeshift ghetto) I have no vision of my parents in these dreams. Over time, my old best bud/boyfriend and I find that our past feelings are still there and as a result, shows my sister and I great favor and seems to be watchful and protective of us...as we are contained in our makeshift jail cell which looks more like a horse stall with a prison door.


One day, officers of a high rank do a walk through to inspect. My boyfriend quickly stands at attention in front of our cell with his arms behind his back. With one hand, he draws me in against the gated door quickly so that all that can be seen in my sister. The officers take my sister and all other prisoners in that jail. As soon as the officers escort everyone out of the jail, my boyfriend tells me to huddle low in the back of the cell and to hide myself with hay or whatever I can find. Then in a panic, he runs after the other officers. The next thing I know, I hear gunshots. And without being told I understand that my sister is dead. I was left alone in the cold jail alone for a couple days until my boyfriend returned.


Now I find fuzziness, but what I do understand is that secret marriage vows were made between my boyfriend and I...and that soon afterwards the make shift jail was filled with more inmates. Then, my new secret husband finds he is being transferred. He promises that he will do whatever he can to watch over me and will be back. Next, I find myself in the throws of a bitter existence in a concentration camp. I'm always terrified but because of my faith that my husband will somehow save me, I decide that no matter what I will do all I can to live.


Days and days go by, no rescue. Finally, because of who knows why, I survive the prison camp and the war has ended. I am searching trying to find my husband. I am so upset that he didn't protect me like he promised. After time, I finally find word that he had committed suicide a year earlier after he saw an incorrect document that said I was executed in the camp. Apparently, there had been a mistake.


I'm still working through this. I have sought help and as it turns out. My pl husband is my cousin in this life and is married to my my pl sister. The resonance of being a holocaust survivor, it's still there. I am so grateful to have found this forum. Grateful to not be alone in a struggle that I never feel I can share:)


Thanks!
 
Welcome rabw and thanks for sharing!


It's an interesting and sad story. But you're not alone. There are also others with similar PL experiences. I hope you will get over it finally.


How did you find out that your cousin and his wife from current life were with you in this past life? Do they know they were there, do they remember anything themselves? Or is it just you who knows about it?


All the best
 
You both are so very kind! I grew up in very conservative churches and church schools all the way through college...if I told them the same of what I posted here???!!!!LOL! How I found out about my cousin....please feel free to challange me.....I've been on my own, so maybe I have it all wrong and what I'm about to say is a big step for me...but I guess it is what it is:)


So, it was just last week, I woke up having the same dream/nightmare (wake up in a panic attack, covered in sweat...it's lovely) I go say hello to my now husband, there's something on TV about WWII so my anxiety maintains itself. Go to the kitchen, make coffee and start calming down and I felt an arm reach around me with a hand holding onto my left shoulder. I heard a voice in my right ear say, it's ok....let me tell you what you need to understand. The voice then said, your pl husband is your cousin and your pl sister is his wife. Wasn't nervous by this voice/arm on shoulder thing, I had a feeling of peace come over me, but I did react to this message...I said somewhat frusterated, WHY?? She didn't have to suffer, she was shot early on and that was it!!!! (I know how that sounds, btw) I didn't want to hear anymore and tried to walk away...but somehow the hand never left my shoulder and I knew I had to give in and listen. The voice said, in your pl your husband couldn't save your sister, he saved you and the guilt he carried for not saving her was too much. Because she had desperately wanted children, he felt the only way to make amends was to come back, marry her and to try to give her a good life. That made sense, and if you could only see the way she puts him through the ringer now!!:rolleyes: Learning the back story for the First Time, and seeing the dynamics of our relationships now, I sat back and I actually laughed and found some relief and peace. So, ever since last week, that voice pops in for short blips and explains a tiny bit more maybe once every other day, and Im finding understanding as well as relief. I started a journal. I feel like I'm on a road to recovery for the first time, but I know I'm just getting started. I'm just now truly learning about past lives and I have a long ways to go....if I'm off track here, please tell me!


Thanks so much Again! I can't tell you how thankful I am to find you all!!!
 
Oh, and for me bringing up the subject to my cousin and his wife...i don't know if they have had any notion of this. We have always been close and unseperable, but I'm not sure how to have a conversation like that with them. OMG
 
Hello Rabw


I hope you find peace very soon. I suffered from PTSD for years.. I had a flash back to one life in the holocaust . With further regression work I remembered three lives packed into those five years all dying in the concentration camps. The one life I as well had medical experiments done on my and my twin sister.


My PTSD was also linked to my body and to present day trauma .. I have been doing a homeopathic treatment called Heilkunst and now am no longer triggering so dramatically to trauma . I recommend it . IN the Heilkunst community of practitioners reincarnation is accepted and past life trauma can be worked on through the treatment.
 
rabw said:
..So, ever since last week, that voice pops in for short blips and explains a tiny bit more maybe once every other day, and Im finding understanding as well as relief. I started a journal. I feel like I'm on a road to recovery for the first time, but I know I'm just getting started. I'm just now truly learning about past lives and I have a long ways to go....if I'm off track here, please tell me!..
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Nobody in this forum will 'challenge you' or accuse you of imagining things or anything like that. We are not in the business of doing that, only of being a safe and welcoming place where people can talk about these things. There are few enough opportunities to do that in our culture after all! Many of us have had experiences not unlike what you describe, so this is all pretty 'normal' stuff around here.


A lot of people talk about having a 'spirit guide' or other types of experiences with a helping presence of some kind. It might come in dreams, or meditation or 'flashes'. It might be visual or aural, or 'intuitive' in communications.


We don't really know 100% for certain what that is all about, although there are plenty of opinions. Is it an actual 'spirit' helping us from 'the other side' for reasons of their own? Is it our own higher self helping us out when we get ourselves in a mix up? Is it our future 'self'? Is it our 'subconscious' (whatever that is)? Is it God (however you conceive Her) or angels... ? We don't know and it doesn't really matter to my mind. If the guidance you are receiving here is helping you make sense of things and feel better about it, that's great.


These kinds of past life memories / dreams will often flare up when there is something going on in your present life that is troubling you or reminds you of a previous life situation. You don't have to tell us all about your personal life unless you want to, but could it be that something is going on that is stirring this all up?
 
rabw said:
Oh, and for me bringing up the subject to my cousin and his wife...i don't know if they have had any notion of this. We have always been close and unseperable, but I'm not sure how to have a conversation like that with them. OMG
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Yes, that can be very tricky. I usually advise 'If in doubt, don't'. Most people won't understand and will get upset by things like this.


You could just try bringing up the topic of reincarnation generally and see how that goes for starters. Like, "I saw an interesting movie/read a book the other day about reincarnation. It really got me thinking. Do you ever wonder about it?..."
 
Welcome to the forum, rabw. The voice is your "spirit guide" or what some people call a "guardian angel". We all have at least one. They are always with you, even if you don't see them or sense them. You can talk to them in your head and they know what you are thinking. It sounds like your guide or angel has decided you are now ready to receive this information. I know from personal experience over the last 25 years that this knowledge is life changing. I used to wonder "Why?" about so many things. Now I know and it's awesome! I would not mention this to your cousin. They may not be ready for it, yet.
 
Thank you so much for all the great information and advice! I can't tell you how much it means to me! It's a great relief:)
 
In my life right now, I'm living under the stress of unemployment. And with that, I'm struggling with the fear of not being ok, not having enough, not being enough, feeling like scum....and now that it is mentioned, I can see why it's an apporpriate time to deal with my past:)
 
rabw said:
In my life right now, I'm living under the stress of unemployment. And with that, I'm struggling with the fear of not being ok, not having enough, not being enough, feeling like scum....and now that it is mentioned, I can see why it's an apporpriate time to deal with my past:)
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Yes. That makes sense. When people are under stress, these sorts of things can come up from the 'subconscious depths'. It is not unusual to get dreams or flashbacks to a past life situation that resonates with a present life situation. This can be a good thing, if it leads us to examine our hearts and try to see the patterns and understand them.


For instance, you may be feeling like 'scum' because that is how you felt last time when you found yourself in a situation that seemed 'hopeless', and that was how you were treated as a prisoner. Of course, you are not 'scum', but you feel that way due to your difficult present circumstances and these old feelings get stirred up. This is just me guessing, what is going on. You are the one who really knows most about all this.


This is another good reason to keep a journal and write down all the thoughts and feelings that you have in relation to this. Most people find this very therapeutic. It's important to go into the feelings, but also to remind yourself that that was then, and this is now and now you can have other options open to you than perhaps you did last time.
 
rabw said:
In my life right now, I'm living under the stress of unemployment. And with that, I'm struggling with the fear of not being ok, not having enough, not being enough, feeling like scum....and now that it is mentioned, I can see why it's an apporpriate time to deal with my past:)
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A lot of people are under financial stress these days, I'm no stranger to it either. I think we are in the first depression of the 21st century and nobody wants to talk about it. Well, almost no one. But I'll leave that discussion for another group.
 
Very clear Viking Girl.


I too am inquiring about dreams my wife has had since childhood. My spouse is a Canadian born German (1972). Her parents are both 100% German descent. On her mothers side. Her Grandpa lost his wife and child to Nazi. He never discussed this to his second wife.


My wifes dream is she is a little girl with blonde hair, wearing a white dress. Her hands are different than her hands now? There are some men coming, she hides behind a wall. Somehow she is brought out. There is a man in black/red uniform. He puts his hand on her shoulder. Then they go outside. When they are outside, a gun is pointed at her head. This is the end of dream.


She will not research the meaning of this. She thinks it is nonsense to waste time on a dream. However I am inquiring mind. coffee

VikingGirlTBird said:
Hi Spar,
I really think I was very possibly might have been a European Jewish teenage girl somewhere in Europe during WWII and the Holocaust in the middle of the twentieth century because of might what might have been past life memories in the form of past life dreams.


In the dreams, I did not see what I looked like but, my emotions in the dream were very intense in the second part of the first dream.


In the beginning of the dream, I remembered if the Nazis came it to our house it was my job to take my siblings into one of the bedrooms and go hide somewhere where the Nazis could not find us. Then one day the Nazis came and knocked at our front door and my Dad opened the door (My Dad had brown hair and I think he might have been wearing a kippah/yarmulke.). That is when I went and took all my siblings (When I came into get my siblings, I remember two of them were like twins, they were both brother and sister, they both had brown hair, they were very little at that time, and they jumping on the bed.) and hid in the one of the bedrooms somewhere.


Then in the second part of the dream, me and all my siblings were playing and hanging out with our Jewish friends but, then all of a sudden...one of our friends shouted "The Nazis are rounding up the Jews!" and all of our friends ran and went to go hide. Me and siblings were the only ones that did not run and go hide because I was really afraid that we might separate from each other in all the running, hiding, and confusion that one of us might have caught and taken away by the Nazis and we would never ever see each other again. So, there I was standing there holding and hugging all my siblings with all my might because I was really afraid that I was possibly never ever going to see them ever again.


Then in the third part of the dream, our town was having a anti-Semitic parade and they were making fun of the Jews. In that part of the dream, I remember a group of children throwing a bucket of white paint at a little Jewish boy and saying and shouting "Drink your milk baby!" and laughing at him. Then the dream ended.


In the second dream, me and a lot of Jewish people (Including what I think to be a Ultra-Orthodox rabbi.) were carrying this thing to a Jewish synagogue or somewhere and trying not to get caught by the Nazis. Then in the second part of the dream, I remember this man was going to get my youngest brother (Who was playing with ABC blocks at the time.) and take him to a concentration camp because the Nazis really wanted him because he had blond hair, had blue eyes, and because he was a identical twin (Even though his identical twin died in childbirth.). Then in the third part of the dream, I remember my and some Jews were in the back of a truck driving up to a concentration camp. Then the dream ended. I do not know what happened to my youngest brother and whatever my family survived the Holocaust or not. :(
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Prairieboy43 said:
Very clear Viking Girl.
I too am inquiring about dreams my wife has had since childhood. My spouse is a Canadian born German (1972). Her parents are both 100% German descent. On her mothers side. Her Grandpa lost his wife and child to Nazi. He never discussed this to his second wife.


My wifes dream is she is a little girl with blonde hair, wearing a white dress. Her hands are different than her hands now? There are some men coming, she hides behind a wall. Somehow she is brought out. There is a man in black/red uniform. He puts his hand on her shoulder. Then they go outside. When they are outside, a gun is pointed at her head. This is the end of dream.


She will not research the meaning of this. She thinks it is nonsense to waste time on a dream. However I am inquiring mind. coffee
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Welcome to the forum. This sounds very much to be a past life memory. Most likely WWII. Because it is so recent and traumatic she doesn't want to look into it. Does the memory or dream cause problems like PTSD, nightmares, etc. If so, I think past life regression therapy could help.
 
argonne1918 said:
Welcome to the forum. This sounds very much to be a past life memory. Most likely WWII. Because it is so recent and traumatic she doesn't want to look into it. Does the memory or dream cause problems like PTSD, nightmares, etc. If so, I think past life regression therapy could help.
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Thank You Argonne. She has had the same dream for many years. Starting as a child. She was more descriptive than how I wrote earlier. I know she has hard time sleeping. Any little noise in the house and she is awake. Also sleeps with socks on, has showers with the lights out in the morning. I don't understand, so I don't ask. LOL
 
Has she read any books on reincarnation? Videos? There are many videos and books. Look in the book section on this website and also the video archives. There is also a YouTube video by Dr. Brian Weiss. Carol Bowman also does regression therapy. You can find out more here, there is a place to contact her directly.
 
Prairieboy43 said:
Very clear Viking Girl.
I too am inquiring about dreams my wife has had since childhood. My spouse is a Canadian born German (1972). Her parents are both 100% German descent. On her mothers side. Her Grandpa lost his wife and child to Nazi. He never discussed this to his second wife.


My wifes dream is she is a little girl with blonde hair, wearing a white dress. Her hands are different than her hands now? There are some men coming, she hides behind a wall. Somehow she is brought out. There is a man in black/red uniform. He puts his hand on her shoulder. Then they go outside. When they are outside, a gun is pointed at her head. This is the end of dream.
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Hi PrairieBoy


Welcome to the forum. It certainly sounds like a past life memory to me. Repetitive dreams like this are one of the most common ways to have past life memories. The other is random flashbacks while awake in response to some 'trigger', like a song, a person, a smell, a place, etc. as with a present life memory.


Of course it is your wife's business if she is interested in exploring any of this further and whether it may or may not have any connection with the other issues you describe.


It's possible the poor little girl was shot and that was the end of that. Or she may have been arrested and suffered further trauma at the hands of the Nazis. It's hard to know if she is not interested in trying to find out more about what happened.


Past life traumas will very often manifest in the present life in the form of various phobias, jumpiness, what used to be called 'nerves' and sometimes even physical illness. Many, many people have benefited from recovering past life memories and seeing the connections with their present day issues.


You might find this thread fun to read about various 'quirks' people think are associated with past life events.


Little quirks
 
Thank you Tanguerra and Argonne. wine**

tanguerra said:
Hi PrairieBoy
Welcome to the forum. It certainly sounds like a past life memory to me. Repetitive dreams like this are one of the most common ways to have past life memories. The other is random flashbacks while awake in response to some 'trigger', like a song, a person, a smell, a place, etc. as with a present life memory.


Of course it is your wife's business if she is interested in exploring any of this further and whether it may or may not have any connection with the other issues you describe.


It's possible the poor little girl was shot and that was the end of that. Or she may have been arrested and suffered further trauma at the hands of the Nazis. It's hard to know if she is not interested in trying to find out more about what happened.


Past life traumas will very often manifest in the present life in the form of various phobias, jumpiness, what used to be called 'nerves' and sometimes even physical illness. Many, many people have benefited from recovering past life memories and seeing the connections with their present day issues.


You might find this thread fun to read about various 'quirks' people think are associated with past life events.


Little quirks
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