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Notes on a prior life as a mixed-race girl

Midnight.Sapphires

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For Vicky and Karoliina. These notes of mine were actually emails sent to a group of friends. Also, while reading these over, I realised I made a mistake. It was not my "grandmother" in that lifetime who had been a slave, it was my "great-grandmother".

Last night, I decided to regress myself back to a possible life with a friend of mine. I remembered how I was regressed back to Elzbeth's life and I decided to try this technique, just to see if I came up with anything. This might be a bit long, but I want to know if anyone can make sense out of what I "saw".

The technique used to regress me back to a previous life went like this...

After surrounding myself with a protective white light (from head to feet), I walked through a white tunnel. When I reached the end of the tunnel, I was standing in front of a movie theater. I walk up the stairs and enter the building. There, I see a concession stand with snacks so I go there and pick up some popcorn and soda. And then I enter the theater. In my last regression session, the movie hadn't started and the screen was still dark, but this time there was already a movie playing. I sit down, a bit confused and tell myself...I don't think I belong here...I should leave. As I think these
thoughts, I feel or hear a voice telling me to stay...that there's something I need to know. So, I sit and watch this movie.

At first, I see an old town, some of the buildings are made of brick, and in this part of town, the buildings are built quite close together. It is dark, I feel it is late evening or very early morning (just after midnight). I see an old-fashioned black car make a turn around a corner and then suddenly I feel I'm riding in the car, as a passenger.

I look at myself and I'm dressed as if I'm going to an evening party. I was wearing a long, lacy, off-white dress and I had white gloves on. My hair was swept up, with some tendrils of hair falling to both sides of my face. My hair is light brown, my eyes are very light brown, maybe hazel, and my skin is very fair. I'm very excited, very much in love. I asked myself what year it was and the year 1931 immediately came to mind. I felt that I was about 20 or
21 years old.

I look at the driver and he is wearing a light beige or cream-coloured suit. His hair is slicked back but I see it is blonde, with some darker shades of brown. He is also about 20 or 21, maybe 22. He has very light eyes but I couldn't tell if they were blue or green.

I wanted to know my name so I tried to concentrate on it but couldn't come up with a name. So I decided to see if I could pick up the name in a conversation between the two people. They are speaking with a Southern accent.

Next, I see us traveling through what looks like farmland. It is daylight and we are having a conversation in the car. He takes my hand and he's asking me to change my mind. I tell him I'm not sure if I can (I appear a bit confused, as if I'm not sure what I want to do). I mention something about his parents not accepting me and that they would never consent to our being married. He tells me, that's why we're doing this. He tells me that he doesn't care that my great-grandmother was black. (OH...!). He tells me that we're going to "do this" and then make a life for ourselves. We'll keep in touch with our families and then return in a few years and by then, things should have settled and our parents will have accepted what we did. And then he says, Lydia...this is the right thing to do.

Next, we are pulling into another small town. The next scenes are brief...we are standing in a semidark room with candles and there is a judge or justice of peace and I see a ring being placed on my left finger. I see us at a hotel room (doesn't look very expensive but it's not a run-down motel either). He is carrying me through the door. The next scene, we are having breakfast in the hotel diner and we are ecstatic and I'm just smiling and talking a mile a minute (but this time, I didn't hear the conversation...I was just "observing" here).

After that, I see us in the car once more, driving out of the town and heading towards more open road with farmland up ahead. I don't have my gloves on and I see him pick up my hand to look briefly at my ring. ( All this time, I had an underlying feeling of doom, that something horrible was going to happen).

At that moment, I looked at him and then I looked up and saw another car heading toward us. The car had crossed over into our lane. It was moving a very high speed and weaving back and forth. The last thing I remember, I screamed out my husband's name and then everything went black. I then floated above the scene and I saw our car lying off the side of the road, completely wrecked and it was facing in the opposite direction, on its side. Somehow, I had ended up under the car and was dead. He was still in the car, crushed up by the steering wheel, also dead. I saw police and people around the scene.
 
Continuing on....

My thoughts on this....

There was a problem with the two of them getting married, probably because of her racial background. They looked upper class (judging from their clothing and the type of car they were in). They were eloping to the next town to get married. At first, she had agreed but somewhere from the time they left the city to the time they were driving through the farmland, she
started to have doubts, maybe changed her mind and he was trying to convince her that what they were doing was right.

He more than likely died from crush trauma to the chest (another past life trauma to the heart?). I strongly feel that she had flown partially through the windshield before being thrown out of the car. (Another head injury here).

But, I'm not familiar with customs of the South during this time period. I am also not familiar with the way the towns looked during this period. Honestly, I haven't much knowledge of the South. So, any Southerners here...and I know there are many *wink*...would greatly appreciate any comments, thoughts, ideas.

Thanks.

Jereldeen
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There's more to this...lots of notes on how I (along with my group of friends), found out exactly what year this happened (it was not 1931, but 1939), where she lived (Louisiana) and where they went to get married (Texas) and that she was what would be considered a "Quadroon" - 1/4 to 1/8 Black.

Another note - I have to say this, this possible life popping up all of a sudden is a shock to me. Totally unexpected. I have used this regression technique many times over the years and never came up with anything...I would fade out as soon as I sat myself down in the theater. So, when I decided to try this technique once more, I never expected anything to come out of it.

I'll try to condense the emails/notes later, if anyone is interested in the research part of this.

Jereldeen:thumbsup:
 
Jere,
I'm very fascinated by any lifetime that can be documented. Also that there is a voice that you 'feel or hear.' That's how I get messages. Tough to explain but someone is communicating with me.
Vicky
 
Jere -

This is an outstanding example of past life recall. Thank you for sharing. Are you familiar with cars from that time period? Have you done searches for clothing and weddings similar to the one you described? Post some attachments when and if you do. Visuals always help me understand and put things into perspective. I am sure others feel the same. Not to mention it is good foot work and documentation for you. ;)

Quick marriages at a court house by a judge or justice of peace was common in those days. My grandparents were married by a justice of peace. Only two people were present for their wedding.

YESSSSSSSSSSSS I am interested in the research. Please share. :):):)
 
Amazing memories, Jere!!! Thanks for sharing with us! :)
Please, keep us posted!
 
Hiya Jere,

Very, very interesting - and a great experience for you I suppose! :thumbsup:

Yes, I'm interested in the research part too (I love doing the Sherlock Holmes stuff with PL memories and also hearing about it), so if it's not too much trouble, please share (links and attachments also appreciated)!

Karoliina
 
jere said:
But, I'm not familiar with customs of the South during this time period. I am also not familiar with the way the towns looked during this period. Honestly, I haven't much knowledge of the South. So, any Southerners here...and I know there are many *wink*...would greatly appreciate any comments, thoughts, ideas.

Ah, that's the area I grew up in. Do you know the name of the town where she lived, and what town in Texas did they drive to?
 
Hi everyone!

Thank you so much for your replies.

I just finished sorting out my notes but it's well after midnight and I'm really tired. I will add my notes on the car (and a picture) tomorrow.

Anentity...Unfortunately, I never figured out what part of Louisiana Lydia was from and I don't know where in Texas they got married. It's been a while since I discussed this lifetime with anyone...in fact, I haven't really given it much thought until recently.

More tomorrow. ;)

Jereldeen
 
More notes...

These are my notes on the car they were traveling in. ;)

Hi...

I don't know a thing about cars so I'm going to do the best I can to describe this car. Most of what I had seen were of the interior - I was sitting on the passenger's side. The only time I saw the exterior of the car was during the very first images when I was looking at it from a distance.

The car was black, with white or cream-coloured interior. It might have had a stick shift as I kept seeing him reach over with his right hand. The contours of the car were not "boxy" as in earlier models but more "round". There was white trim on the wheels. I can't remember too much more at this moment.

I'm going to do some research and see if I can find a picture similar to the type of car I had seen.

More later.
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Hi...

Ok. Now I'm confused. I went to a few web sites about old cars from 1926 to 1931 and none of those cars looked familiar. However, when I found a web site for cars from 1926 to the 1950's, I found a picture of a car very similar to what I had seen - it was a 1939 Ford Coupe. I've been looking at other sites and it seems that style of car, with the rounded contours, was manufactured from 1933. The 1932 models still had that "boxy" look to it.

Could I have gotten the year wrong? If I'm wrong, then I'm thinking, I really didn't rest much after Wah-Tse-Gee's death, which was probably around 1910or 1912. The little Japanese girl was born in 1939. Seems like an immediate reincarnate to the life in Japan, if the type of car I'm looking at was manufactured from 1933 on. This might have been a short life in between Wah-Tse-Gee and the little Japanese girl, if there is any validation to what I had seen. I don't know.

Jereldeen
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There's always the chance that being you were in an OBE state that the shape of the car slightly changed in your perception, maybe the roundness of it was almost symbolic as such??? Objects often can look different on different levels of perception.
K.

Hi K.
I'm not sure if the roundness of the car had any special significance, it's only what I "saw". However, because I only saw the car briefly while it was making a turn around the corner, and the streets were semi-dark (there were only 2 dim street lights in that area) my perception could have been a bit off. I'm still researching this. One thing I'm definitely sure of - the color of the car was black, there was white trim on the wheels, and the interior was either off-white or cream.

Jereldeen
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Hi everyone...

I am attaching the picture of the car. It's exactly what I had seen in my "vision". So, the year couldn't have been 1931 because these types of cars were manufactured later. This is a 1939 Coupe, Ford, I think.

I have been asking myself what State they might have been living in at the time they decided to elope and the answer that keep flashing in front of me is Louisiana. It's more than just a gut feeling...it feels right. Who knows? I just wish there was a good regressionist here in Colorado Spgs. I would love to explore this life more. Thank you all!
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**Note here...when I first mentioned about the 1939 Ford Coupe, I still wasn't sure if I had found the car we were traveling in. But after doing a little more research, I felt without a doubt that the car we traveled in was indeed a 1939 Ford Coupe.
 
More notes...

I apologise for such long posts. :eek:

At this point, we were discussing Lydia's husband.
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I'm still agreeeing with Jereldeen's car being a Ford....it just looks like many of the sedans of the period, including the one produced by BMW and Benz. It would fit that a rather comfortably raised boy would have a Ford in the deep south. Anybody betting Georgia?
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I'm guessing (remembering his accent - he did have a very strong drawl) that he must have been a Southern boy for sure. I can't seem to pick up any more information at the moment...been trying to relax and meditate but nothing's coming through. Perhaps this weekend, when I'm more relaxed, I'll be able to come up with something on Lydia's husband. I am definitely sure that Lydia was from Louisiana and that they left Louisiana and got married in another State. The way the land looked while they were driving, it was almost like flat prairie and farmlands...I'm thinking...could they have traveled to Texas? Does anyone know if Texas had the same laws on inter-racial marriages as Louisiana and other parts of the South?
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https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs...-roadster-show-39-ford-coupe.jpg&action=click
 
Deborah's Questions...

Jere -

This is an outstanding example of past life recall. Thank you for sharing. Are you familiar with cars from that time period? Have you done searches for clothing and weddings similar to the one you described? Post some attachments when and if you do. Visuals always help me understand and put things into perspective. I am sure others feel the same. Not to mention it is good foot work and documentation for you.

Deborah...Thank you very much! ;)

I didn't know anything about cars from that period...at least until I did a little bit of research. I haven't done any searches on clothing or weddings. In all honesty, I haven't done any further research other than what was discussed in emails. What I would really love is to be able to at least get a surname for either Lydia or her husband...then I could confirm that yes, I truly did live and die as Lydia.

One last note - Lydia as a young girl:

...at one point, when I was thinking about the train and Lydia, I heard a woman "humming" a song and then I had a vision of a young girl in a white dress and she was watching an older African-American woman going about the kitchen and humming a hymn to herself. The girl was sitting at the kitchen table with her chin resting on her hands and by the look in her eyes, you could tell that she adored this woman. The girl looked about 7 or 8, and she had her hair in several braids in the way African-American mothers and grandmothers did back then (or still do). But, she was almost Caucasian in appearance, fair skin, light/hazel eyes, light brown hair. That girl was Lydia. I haven't had any more images of Lydia since, but I'm hoping that more will come up in the future.
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Jereldeen
 
jere said:
... I am definitely sure that Lydia was from Louisiana and that they left Louisiana and got married in another State. The way the land looked while they were driving, it was almost like flat prairie and farmlands...I'm thinking...could they have traveled to Texas? Does anyone know if Texas had the same laws on inter-racial marriages as Louisiana and other parts of the South?

When I was growing up (60s), Louisiana's laws were typically more lenient than Texas laws. For instance, you could get married about age 14-16 without parental permission in Louisiana, but had to be 18 in Texas. Also, Louisiana has been full of mixed races from the times when owned by France and Spain. American Indians, Spanish, Caucasians, Blacks and so on. That's not to say they weren't looked down on by the white people. I tend to think Texas would be historically even more adverse to mixed marriages. So it may be that they just wanted to get married away from home where they were known, so no one would tell their families or try to stop them.

By the way, Louisiana is the only state in this country whose laws are Napoleonic.

The flat land sounds more south than north. The land gets a little hillier when you get up about mid-state. But along the coast it can be swampy and extremely flat. Interstate 10 runs along the flat part just above the swamplands.

There would be lots of farmland during that period, primarily rice and sugar cane.
 
Thanks Jere! :)

(BTW Jere is a boy's name in Finland. :D But it's pronounced like "Yere".)

Maybe you could take a look at pictures of landscapes in Louisiana and the neighbouring states. I've found sites for tourists often good in that. Maybe you could also find something from the news archive or obituaries of local newspapers. After all you know already the year, first name and the way you died.

Karoliina
 
I think Karoliina has a good idea. There were a lot fewer people living in those states in 1931 than are there now. It might not be as hard to find the name in the obituaries as it seems.
Good luck to you.
Vicky
 
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Hiya!

lol...Yere is a boy's name in Finland? I didn't know that. I learned something new tonight. :laugh: So, in Finland, would there be a meaning for my full name, Jereldeen? Just curious. ;)

Maybe you could take a look at pictures of landscapes in Louisiana and the neighbouring states. I've found sites for tourists often good in that. Maybe you could also find something from the news archive or obituaries of local newspapers. After all you know already the year, first name and the way you died.
Karoliina

I think Karoliina has a good idea. There were a lot fewer people living in those states in 1931 than are there now. It might not be as hard to find the name in the obituaries as it seems.
Good luck to you.
Vicky

I have been looking at maps and various internet sites but it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Without a surname or at least a place name, it's really difficult. I found several sites with listings for obtituaries but you need to sign up as a member, and also pay a fee. Same with Ancestry.com. At the moment, I really can't use my credit card to pay for these sites so I'm trying other options. I found something from Ancestry.com which really caught my attention, but again, to get further information I would have to register and pay the fee. Look at this:

Name: Lydia Nelson
Birth: year - city LA USA
Death: 1939 - city Calcasieu LA USA
Marriage: dd mm year - city Orange TX USA
Parents: name surname, name surname
Spouse: name surname

I highly doubt it's her. Calcasieu LA is near the Louisiana-Texas border, however. Too bad there wasn't just a wee bit more information...like year of birth.

Anentity...

Thank you very much for the information...even a little bit helps a lot. :thumbsup: By the way, may I ask what part of the South you're from?

I looked up Inter-racial Marriage Laws and found this:

Begin: the year that the state began restricting interracial couples
End: the year that the state stopped restricting interracial couples

State: Louisiana
Begin: 1724
End: 1967
(Louisiana had the most Sections in their Code of Law (4) but basically, it's the same - that inter-racial cohabitation and/or marriage was against the law and subject to fines/jail).

State: Mississippi
Begin: 1822
End: 1967
[Sec.] 2361. Unlawful marriages--between white person and negro or Mongolian prohibited.--The marriage of a white person and a negro or mulatto or person who shall have one-eighth or more of negro blood, or with a Mongolian or a person who shall have one-eighth or more Mongolian blood, shall be unlawful, and such marriage shall be unlawful and void; and any party thereto, on conviction, shall be punished as for marriage within the degrees prohibited by the last two sections [i.e. incestuous marriages]; and any attempt to evade this and the last two preceding sections by marrying out of this state and returning to it shall be within them.

State: Texas
Begin: 1837
End: 1967
Art. 483. Intermarriage of whites and blacks.--If any white person and negro shall knowingly intermarry with each other within this state, or having so intermarried, in or out of the state, shall continue to live together as man and wife within this state, they shall be punished by confinement in the penitentiary for a term not less that two nor more than five years.

I didn't know Texas actually had a law against intermarriage. This is new to me. I guess I always assumed that Texas was a bit more relaxed about inter-racial marriages because the Whites, Natives and Mexicans had been intermingling with each other for a very long time.

If they (Lydia and her lover) did elope to Texas, they took a big risk. I'm guessing they figured with Lydia's Caucasian features and the fact that no one would know them or their backgrounds, no one would question their right to be married.

Jereldeen
 
Wow ... the memories you posted are fascinating, breathtaking. How sad they didn't get to enjoy but a few days of married life. True love is so precious. :)
 
Jere, that's very interesting about the laws on mixed race marriages. I grew up in Texas and had no idea about that. Good detective work.

Calcasieu Parish makes a lot of sense, actually. It would have been a reasonable drive to the border and Orange is just over the border in Texas. Even with the 2-lane roads they would have had back then, that's not a terribly long drive. My relatives lived in Allan and Evangeline Parishes, and I grew up in Beaumont, Texas, so as a child I traveled through that area a lot visiting relatives. As I recall, the land between the two areas would be flat like you described. The terrain has trees, farmland, a river, and some open areas. She may or may not be your Lydia, but there are some intriguing correlations there.

Sometimes there are "lookup angels" who have access to Ancestry.com and other geneology sources.
 
Jere,

(No, Jereldeen doesn't mean anything in Finnish. :) )

I think it's very much possible that Lydia Nelson is the one you're looking for. I hope you find a way to find out!

I have a similar situation: I've found an obituary from New York Times that looks very "promising", but I don't even have a credit card, so there's no way to find out.. :rolleyes:

Keep us posted!

Karoliina
 
Hi all!

Anentity...I really appreciate all your help...it's very kind of you. Thank you very much for the links and information. :)

I've been searching through some of the links you posted, as well as looking at different web sites for Calcasieu, LA and Orange, TX but I'm not finding what I really need...pictures. I've been looking for pictures of the main town in Calcasieu but haven't had any luck, nor have I had any luck finding a listing and/or pictures of chapels in either LA or TX. It's so frustrating...to be able to see the buildings and know exactly what they look like, but not be able to find any old archive photos. I'll keep searching anyway...I hope something will come up. I might try and contact one of the lookup angels later but first, I want to try and find a bit more information on my own.

I am also searching the internet for a picture of the dress she wore. I know that it was a long formal dress, off-white in colour, and had a lot of lace and ruffles. What stands out the most in my memory were the large ruffles on the front bodice of the dress - they sort of criss-crossed each other - kimono style. The sleeves were, I guess 3/4, and stopped at the elbows and she wore elbow-length white gloves. I'm not sure what the bottom half of the dress looked like as I mostly saw her from the waist up - in the car, during the wedding ceremony and in the hotel diner the next morning.

Karoliina...I doubt the Lydia Nelson is the Lydia I'm searching for. It's too coincidental. And yes, it's a downer when you find some information and you know it might JUST be what you need to solve some of the mysteries of who you were in prior life...but there's no way to get the information without a price. :( If you do decide to try some of the links Anentity provided and you get lucky, please let us know. :)

Wow ... the memories you posted are fascinating, breathtaking. How sad they didn't get to enjoy but a few days of married life. True love is so precious

Hello Mama2HRB! Thank you. :)

Such a horrific way for their lives to end...especially knowing that they had looked forward to starting their life together,despite the odds against them.

Anyway, it's almost 1 in the morning and I have a busy day coming up.

Much thanks to everyone!

Jereldeen
 
OOps, so sorry Jere, I was thinking you meant Calcasieu Parish. :eek:

Since the town of Calcasieu, LA is in Rapides parish, that changes things. It's up where the terrain begins to get a little more hilly, and driving from there to Orange, Texas is a bit longer trip.

Libraries might be a good source of information for history and old photographs. Many have links to local universities, and tap into their resources.

Here is the NY public library, for Karolina:
http://www.nypl.org/

And the Rapides Parish library for Jere:
http://www.rpl.org/mainmenu.html

Louisiana Historical Photographs Collection of the State Library:
http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cdm/

You can key in a search word, or browse by title and see a lot of old pictures of Louisiana.

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ALSO, for anyone who wants to ask for help looking up someone, this site is an excellent resource - I had forgotten about this one. Random Acts of Geneological Kindness:

http://www.raogk.org/

Be sure to read their FAQ first:
https://www.raogk.org/#faq

At the bottom of this page is the link to the volunteers, by state.

Have fun!
 
Thanks!

Anentity...

Thank you very much!! I looked through the site with the old photos and there were a couple of pictures that seemed vaguely familiar. I'm quite excited! I don't have time to search for more pictures but I'll do that tomorrow and keep you posted. :thumbsup:

Since the town of Calcasieu, LA is in Rapides parish, that changes things. It's up where the terrain begins to get a little more hilly, and driving from there to Orange, Texas is a bit longer trip.

It appeared they left Louisiana sometime in the late evening, more than likely just after midnight. They traveled through the day and when they married in Texas, it was in the evening. That seems like more than a full day's drive to whereever they were headed to.

Still searching for a picture of her dress...no luck yet. :(

Off to bed now.

Once again...thank you so much!

Jereldeen
 
Lydia's dress

Just a quick update tonight...

I actually found a picture of Lydia's dress...however, the material in the picture is very sheer compared to the material on the dress she wore, which was much heavier. The style on the bodice is exactly the same, as are the sleeves. I can't say for sure if the bottom half is the same, as I only saw Lydia from the waist up.

Still looking at pictures of Louisiana. :thumbsup:

Jereldeen
 
Re: Lydia's dress

Hi Karoliina...

My apologies. I forgot to add the link.

1r5.net/pics/lydia's dress2.jpg (No longer valid)

Same style of dress, at least for the top part of the dress. I almost fell off of my chair when I found the picture. :)

Jereldeen
 
I would love to hear an update, if Jere is still around. And anyway I'm sure many new members will enjoy this thread. :)


Karoliina
 
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