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Of noble blood.

Have noble and FPL claimants had dealings with high status people in your current life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 30.0%

  • No

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • Total voters
    10
Jim78

Jim78

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Hi all.

I've noticed an influx of FPL and nobility claimants. In my own reincarnation experience I would expect such people to have had interactions with high status people in their current lives also.

How many of us actually have and could anyone give details of their interactions?

Things like getting a celebrities autograph or fitting a Lords kitchen doesn't count. I mean personal impactful interactions.
 
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Just remember there are some out there that are nobodies and others that are not aware but these people almost never come forward with any claims at all unlike the attention seekers we see all the time on the net after all very few make claims on PLs of common folk. As for dealing with "high status" I am not impressed at all and rather disappointed even though I am a nobody, it is often the lack of quality of character and the narcissism that is so common to the high positions in society.
 
There and back again said:
Just remember there are some out there that are nobodies and others that are not aware but these people almost never come forward with any claims at all unlike the attention seekers we see all the time on the net after all very few make claims on PLs of common folk. As for dealing with "high status" I am not impressed at all and rather disappointed even though I am a nobody, it is often the lack of quality of character and the narcissism that is so common to the high positions in society.
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Im not sure who i was in my previous life, however i imagine it would be something average
 
I might comment that fame is somewhat of a fickle thing. There are famous musicians today for example, and musicians as good or better not famous at all. The selection process - not just in this era, but in others too, as to who is known and who is no-one, seems to me somewhat of an arbitrary distinction.
 
I have no idea who or what I was prior to the 1930's, certainly do not claim a FPL. I've met and enjoyed conversations with some very important and/or powerful people in my life. Two that come to mind are a school/college coach with a great record and powerful Christian belief (Notre dame) and the other a business owner who, at the time of our meeting, owned/ran a Corporation that hired over three hundred-thousand people world-wide - humbling to be with such people. I also recall being in a group of people where one person owned a multi-million dollar company and another gentleman owned the patent rights to the two-liter bottle production - talk about money! Also, my physical therapist of forty-seven years ago was/is married to an entipronour that sold his business for millions twenty years ago and now says he is "living the good life...' Fine people all of them, well maybe all but one come to think of it.
 
Hi There and back again. I'm not speaking of people being impressed. I'm just looking for correlations between FPL and nobility claims and current lives.

On a side note, it was the lack of quality of character and the narcissism of the powerful that I used to beat them at their own game. They are just people like anyone else after all.
 
True SeekerOfKnowledge. That's why I said high status people not necessarily famous people. I mean dealings with nobility or the ridiculously rich and successful or the powerful....and yes, the famous too.
 
Hi Ken. That's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Business leaders, world leaders, sportsmen, entrepreneurs who made it big. The kind of people who are the modern equivalent of 'nobility' and maybe even real nobility. People that are personally known to a person.

I blackmailed, fought, infiltrated and destroyed though so I can't give specifics on who I have had dealings with.

Although one of them was a very powerful and prominent power player in the entertainment business who had favour swapping shenanigans with even more powerful people. He was a thick though in my opinion.
 
Its not about caring if someone is noble SeekerOfKnowkedge. I personally don't give a rats who anyone is. Everyone is equal in my eyes ( which is why I found dealing with the powerful simple ). Its just that among all the claimants I'd expect someone to have had comparable experiences in their current lives and if that claimant dealt with high status people in their past lives I would imagine it might happen in their current lives too. It happened to me after all. That's the only point of this topic.
 
I have quiet an amount of lives coming from nobility or families of wealth. I count six by now. From two of them I am not sure whether it was just a rich/wealthy family or also nobility. I wouldn’t be suprised to discover more lives lives alike. Never famous, never a princess (haha), but I did live in castles now and than.

In this life, almost all of my soulmates or friends have one thing in common: at a certain point they/we renounced wealth/career/rich family/etc. for a simpel life. Just because of principles, consciousness or urge for freedom.
Strange pattern.
 
Hi fireflydancing.

I can relate. I rejected fame and fortune in my current life for a greater good...but I still had karmic ties to the 'mighty' among us. That hasn't changed between lives.

Where's all the FPL and noble claimants who also have karmic ties in their current lives?

The polls leading with sixty percent yes votes so they are out there somewhere.
 
Hi There and back again.

Its easy to compromise the ruling class. Find out what matters to them and attack it in an unexpected way. Once you have one in your pocket many fall like dominos. Every weakness becomes a strength, even their attitude that your something to be stepped on. Underestimation makes them careless and their class makes them clueless. Some are smart enough to know what they are dealing with though and they treat you as an equal. But I'm smart enough to know when I'm being manipulated and not to show all of my cards. They are weak in the face of a true warrior. They are paper soldiers. Faux tough guys. Pathetic.

All my opinion of course.
 
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Hi There and back again.

Its easy to compromise the ruling class. Find out what matters to them and attack it in an unexpected way. Once you have one in your pocket many fall like dominos. Every weakness becomes a strength, even their attitude that your something to be stepped on. Underestimation makes them careless and their class makes them clueless. Some are smart enough to know what they are dealing with though and they treat you as an equal. But I'm smart enough to know when I'm being manipulated and not to show all of my cards. They are weak in the face of a true warrior. They are paper soldiers. Faux tough guys. Pathetic.

All my opinion of course.
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This has been my experience as well. It isn't very hard to find an individual or group's weakness, you just have to want to act upon it. Most of them are afraid of losing money, power, and reputation (among those who are deemed important). Threaten any one of these, and they are easy to control (or to destroy). Especially since they often think that they are somehow superior and deserve these things while you are too foolish to adequately challenge it. Often times the undertaking of upsetting the status quo comes with too much danger for most to be enticed to continue. Not all of the people born into the upper class are sociopaths who act this way either, but many times those who do not fit this mould are quietly pushed aside and dealt with.
 
Once you catch a sociopath the non sociopathic elite usually fall into place. Its easy to seize power from a sociopath though. Just deprive them of every option except the one you want them to take. Once you have their power the rest of the elite usually fall into place. This is because sociopaths spend their lives manipulating their peers and all that 'money in the bank' becomes yours. Its an intelligence gathering device that's a workable trickle down effect that gives the powerless all the power one needs. Sociopaths squeek like rats when cornered. They'd tell you anything.

Most people think sociopaths, especially high functioning ones, are dangerous and to be avoided but I've actually found them to be the Achilles heel to target in any attempt to infiltrate, manipulate and destroy our 'betters'. I've found most of the ruling class are out for themselves first and foremost and this self interest makes them all vulnerable.

I don't take pleasure in fighting anymore though so I've 'hung up my guns'.
 
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I don't take pleasure in fighting anymore though so I've 'hung up my guns'.
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This is the same for me. For centuries, I made it my job to topple these groups (both from inside and out) and the one thing I learned is that someone just as bad will always come around later. There may be a short span of peace and goodwill, but it will always end--usually much sooner than hoped. It is like playing a never-ending game of whack-a-mole and I have grown weary of it.
 
Yeah Spirit Sword...whack-a-mole-with human lives.

I'm sick of it myself.

Although when the recession hit a lot of people said they wish Mick Collins could come back and sort people out. I find it tragically ironic that it turned out to be me.

This gets to the heart of this topic though. I led a fight against the powerful through modern means in my current life but my tactics are the same as they ever were, I just fought in a different way this time around.

This is the last time I found an easy way to cut the head off of a snake:

http://www.generalmichaelcollins.com/life-times/rebellion/intelligence-war/

So where are the comparable situations in other claimants lives?
 
I do have hope that someday the endless cycle of these sorts of people getting into places of power and wealth will come to a close without the need of individuals having to go through dealing with the problem again and again over and over again. I do see the root of the problem is and has always been a spiritual one that is also rather complex but as the old saying goes what comes goes around that eventually karma does catch up as it has for everyone else.
 
My hope for the end to people like that coming into power was shattered when I realised that if I had of continued fighting the escalation of violence would have been too high a price to pay There and back again.

My hope now is that there will be some way of detecting those kinds of people before they reach adulthood. Any other way would result in anarchy and war. I envisioned it in my mind and stayed my hand.
 
I doubt the cycle of power and corruption will ever cease unless we have a massive overhaul of human culture as a whole. Barring a major shift of this sort, I believe that groups in power will continue to groom their successors, or provide an example for them to follow. Even if there are new families or new systems of government, this haughty attitude takes root eventually. To reference George Orwell's Animal Farm, the pigs always become the farmers in the end.
 
I honestly cannot remember any of my past lives. I haven't had a section where I connect with my inner self YET.

Though, I have this strange likings to the medival days :) maybe I was a princess. Jokes! Have a nice Monday!
 
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I honestly cannot remember any of my past lives. I haven't had a section where I connect with my inner self YET.

Though, I have this strange likings to the medival days :) maybe I was a princess. Jokes! Have a nice Monday!
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Mind what you joke about in this field. Several times, I have joked about having been this or that and later found it to be the truth.
 
Along this line...while I am almost certain I was some sort of nobility, I had an interesting experience as a child. My grandfather was well travelled, and bought me to a castle that once belonged to Charlemange. A nearby couple had mis-identified a statue, and I had imagined that a man in a crown had told me that he was not who they said, but Charles. I corrected this couple, as a six year old, who were amused but consulted the tour guide only to verify what I said was true.

30 something years later, and a few eerie coincidences in my life had begun to add up more and more. Without going into too much detail and wall of texting people, this last Christmas, someone had gotten a hold of a family tree that was compiled after a few months of research. One of my earlier relatives from the 19th century was a Count in Flanders, and tracing his lineage back, we were able to go back as far as around 700 AD. Interestingly enough...what would have been a paternal grandfather from that time period was Charlemagne.

I consulted a spiritualist friend on this, and the explanation that I was given was "Blood can recognize Blood."
 
Hi RoryPike197.

So are you saying that you had a feeling about an ancestor of yours? I've never really heard of people recognising other people because they were in the same bloodline.
 
To the contrary. Not a feeling, a thought. Like my first time doing a proper regression, it sort of just came out screaming to me. Voice in the head, words not my own. I saw a man with a crown in the minds-eye, and he said "I am Charles.". I recognized the face later when we were looking over my family tree. I didn't actually recognize the face I saw as Charlemagne until I took European History at University, and thought "Wow, that's creepy, seen this guy before."
 
Very interesting and intriguing story Rory, I'd like to hear more.

I read a book many years ago called, The Seed Remembers. It has been a while, but the premise was that the seeds of life have a memory of each life time. Native American spiritual beliefs about corn was a major part of it. I have a very dear and highly educated friend who subscribes to this theory wholeheartedly. We've had some marvelous conversations, even debates:rolleyes:, about reincarnation and the relevance of both theories. K is convinced that all of what we are, what we learn, what we confront in life is stored in our seed and is passed down the line for all generations. Now, did I tell you he is an arborist? So his arguments are quite convincing...

Rory, your story here reminds me of this, and would certainly be fodder for K and his thoughts. The bottom line is that we don't know, but we're given such incredible hints. I'm glad you have the memory, "the thoughts", and are able to recognize them; they've been given to you for growth in this life ... spread your limbs of curiosity and see where they take you.

Blessings, ~Tman

PS... Welcome to the forum!
 
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