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Poland

Something is coming up for me.


I know it's got something to do with all this. A piece of music has been haunting me for weeks now and it's something to do with X but I can't put my finger on it. It's quite maddening I assure you. I tried to 'make it happen' the other day, put the tune on repeat on my iPod and made myself focus on it - used all the tricks I have learned - and got the tiniest flash of visiting her at home after the duel. It was a similar salon/parlour/what-have-you for receiving visitors (or maybe the same, who knows?) where we first met, but the windows were draped in black gauzy fabric of some sort, the blinds were drawn... all signifying mourning. She was wearing black. We had a furious argument. I said she had 'ruined my career, my life, etc. etc'. I really, really hated her for a moment (not really - annoyingly enough).


That's it.
 
tanguerra said:
I really, really hated her for a moment (not really - annoyingly enough).
Well, you have just captured the essence of romantic relationships. Aren't moments of love/hate part of even the best, most enduring ones? To me, it's the hallmark of a dead relationship when you feel nothing, neither love, nor hate. Do you know the name of the piece of music that "haunts" you? Is it orchestral, or part of an opera? The story of the "Hussar and the Lady" would translate well into a libretto. I think a lot of creative work comes from past life memories.
 
The tune that is haunting me is this one.


True Blood Love Theme:


It's stupid, but I can't listen to it without tears welling up in my eyes. It's kind of emabrasssing. It keeps happening, even on the tram on the way to work in the mornings when it comes up on my iPod as it has a way of doing ... I have to pretend I've got something in my eye.


It's stupid, because it's not great opera or any kind of authentic Polish folk tune or anything (at least as far as I know). It's a soundtrack from a TV show but it feels old to me somehow. It's present day, and, yes it's about vampires. (Embarrassing, like I said).


It's the 'love theme' from the HBO TV series 'True Blood'. I saw it recently on DVD and it's a lot of fun, and everything, but underneath all that, there's this ongoing theme of 'love, no matter what' and 'immortality isn't always what it's cracked up to be' and this is the theme that's always playing in the background of those sorts of scenes and it's sort of 'captivated me' and makes me feel all nostalgic and sad and upset and excited and everything all at once and I know it's got something to do with all this, but I don't know what ... hard to explain.
 
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I think the song is called "Bad Things" and it's sung by Jace Everett. I believe there was a Lyle Lovett version some years ago. I love that song, Tanguerra. I streamed "True Blood" from the internet in a two week orgy of depraved viewing last summer. I think many of us are drawn to the "shadow side" that the song describes, and that's not a "Bad Thing". (Bad Pun intended) The shadow has to be integrated into who we are. For me, the song evokes feelings from long ago, and restless summers, and helps me remember who I am. We are, were, and ever will be, sexual beings. For me, that is what the song evokes. Is it at all similar for you? : angel
 
BriarRose said:
I think the song is called "Bad Things" and it's sung by Jace Everett...
No, not 'Bad things'. That's a terrific little song, but not one to evoke weird nostalgic crying jags! :)


The music I'm talking about is the theme music used in the 'background'. I linked the piece I'm talking about above.
 
Oops. Sometimes I have trouble pulling up Youtube links, for reasons known only to my computer. I finally "got" it. It is a haunting and beautiful piece, but I never noticed it once while watching the series. It's significance must be a trigger just for you. I've been blessed with very simple and satisfying love relationships. Yours seem to be complex, layered, and the PL ones, tragic. Maybe there's a link between the types of love in our lives, and the music we associate with love, as well as between our souls and those with whom we experience romantic relationships. It is a very beautiful piece. I will be interested to read your posts about it's significance.
 
Thanks BriarRose.


It's all just a tangle of emotions at this point but hopefully something will clarify before long. It usually does eventually. I have been brooding over it and I think it's as much to do with the music being played on a piano rather than the actual tune itself, although as you say the tune is very evocative.


I found this though, which confirms what I remembered about the windows all being closed up, black fabric draped around, etc. I don't imagine these old customs changed much and there are similar practices throughout Europe in the past few hundred years.


Apparently there was a Polish 'peasant tradition' that deaths came in threes and it was very bad luck to break any kind of glass in a house during the mourning period which may have something to do with covering the windows??


Polish-American Folklore
 
In the Southern U.S., when someone was passing all the mirrors were covered with cloth. My family still practiced that until the 1940's.
 
I think I finally got to the bottom of this last night. I did a little meditation - just lay quietly and closed my eyes, relaxed and let it happen. I started with the tiny bit that I did have... the scene in the room all closed up and draped in black.


I noticed more details - the hangings on the windows of some 'gauzy' fabric may have been crepe de chine, which darkened the room without blacking it out. I noticed these curtains had folds in them, as though they'd been stored in a box and recently pulled out and hung up. I thought how amazingly expensive that quantity of silk must have been. These people must have been very, very wealthy indeed (nobility of some sort presumably - silk merchants?). I had the impression that all this mourning stuff had only recently been hastily unpacked and put up perhaps just that morning (hence the creases in the curtains).


[Perhaps it was that same morning? :( ]


She was in the room all dressed in black. She was holding a large black fan (black beading - jet probably - on the handle) and made nervous small talk about how it was her grandmother's and quite out of style, but it was the only one she had at short notice, since she hadn't had time to order any new stuff ... She hadn't worn the dress in years and she thought it was a bit small and too tight across the shoulders. I remember being irritated by this frivolous rubbish she was talking, but at the same time touched (in present time) because X is still terribly conscious of his 'fashion image' and inclined to prattle on about trivialities, especially if nervous.


I decided to go into the 'heart center' and try to find out why this scene was significant and why it has been bothering me so much lately. There was a tangle of volcanic emotions all jumbled up. As I wrote above, I was very angry with her for 'ruining my life and my career' and felt that she was a silly shallow creature and it had really not been worth it. I felt very foolish on that account and disgusted with myself - similar to a feeling I've described above on the day of the duel - but even so the very sight of her gave me a strange pain and pleasure all at once (she was very, very beautiful -with golden hair and very fine features). I couldn't hate her, though I didn't know why.


The heart center: http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/the-heart-center.1048/


I believe I had either been sent or volunteered (or a bit of both) to go to the 'front' of the war after this little incident. I knew I'd had a serious dressing down from my commanding officer about it. There was no suggestion of what I'd done being illegal or being charged with murder or anything, but I was definitely in disgrace. I understood that the husband I'd killed had been a very wealthy benefactor of our war effort. Presumably nobility would invest in these sorts of things in the hopes of gaining more lands or at least favour with the King? Anyway the whole thing was just disastrous for my career and future prospects. I'd behaved very badly, let down the honour of the regiment, all that sort of stuff...


But, beneath all those feelings was 'heartbroken'. I actually felt a terrible ache, not just in my heart, but in my entire chest while this 'meditation' was going on. It's funny, but I could feel/remember what that felt like in my young, male chest as well as my own actual present day chest - hollow, empty, aching - sort of superimposed on my present body. I have had that sort of feeling before this life, but not since I was a kid when something-or-other seemed terribly, terribly upsetting as it only can when you're a little kid and you've had your heart set on something and then been bitterly disappointed. It feels like the end of the world and it felt like the 'end of the world' then too. As a little kid you can sob your heart out (and probably get a cuddle to make it better) but as a big, grown up soldier you couldn't do any of that, so it hurt all the more if that makes sense.


I told her I'd be going away and that we'd never see each other again. Even if I wasn't killed in action, I wouldn't be coming back to that town ever again. I just wouldn't have been possible socially, back in those days, for us to be together, so the best thing to do was to leave and never come back. She didn't seem too cut up about it, which made me feel so much worse of course. She was annoyed with me for killing her husband and causing her so much inconvenience really if anything, or so it seemed to me. Again, the shallowness and selfishness shocked and sickened me (reminding me of my recent disagreement with X in real life - since sort of, more or less, patched up).


I wondered (to myself) what the business about the piano music might all be about? Then I recalled a time when I saw her dancing with her husband and had felt a terrible rush of jealousy...

...It was kind of interesting to observe my own emotions which came suddenly fizzing up in my blood like lemonade though. Suddenly I came over all 'Poland' and felt a rush of blood to my cheeks. I cast my mind back to watching X at an event in Poland dancing with her husband. I felt exactly the same fizz of jealousy and I felt exactly the same way about the husband as I felt about K. Nice enough, nothing special...but what does he see in her compared with me? I really wasn't interested in the husband either, only in that she/he was in the way between X and me. It was very weird to remember having all those very arrogant, selfish and bitter thoughts. Of course I was younger then, and a hot headed and aggressive young man and now I am so much wiser of course, knowing where it all led... Then the moment passed and I 'snapped out of it'...
Lemoade: http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/my-friend-x.1438/page-4#post-29691


There was a party in this same room some time previously and the contrast between that happy occasion and this one was very poignant. The room was certainly large enough to have dancing if you moved the furniture back against the walls. Maybe I'd heard her playing the piano on that occasion or heard a similarly hauntingly beautiful tune played at the time? Anyway, something like that rang true, which is probably why it feels so nostalgic to me now. People didn't hear that much music back then (before the invention of the radio) and only the wealthy even had pianos, so things like that would have had a powerful impact I'm guessing.


I had a brief flash of seeing her at the funeral a day or so later (which I also mentioned above). It was a sunny day (all this would have been in summer if there was ripe barley in the fields after all). Everyone was outdoors. She was a bit in the distance, in a black dress, standing on some steps (outside a church perhaps?). I got the feeling that although I went to the funeral (with the other officers one assumes) I didn't speak to her on that occasion. No doubt there had been quite enough scandal already without doing anything to make it worse, like making a scene with the widow at the funeral!


Anyway, that's it. It's not much, but I feel a bit lighter of heart today for some reason.
 
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Well, good old Wikipedia. I was thinking during the day that it was odd that I really didn't get into that much trouble for killing someone so obviously rich and powerful in a duel. I thought at least a court-marshal or prison or something. I knew duelling was outlawed in England and France. But, Poland was a far 'wilder' place in those times than more southern parts of Europe ... so perhaps?


I looked it up and this is what I found:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duel

Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth
In Poland duels have been known since the Middle Ages. The method of duelling in early medieval Poland was described in detail in the "Book of Elbing" containing the oldest record of the Polish common law (13th–14th century). Later, Polish duelling codes were formed based on Italian, French and German codes. The best known Polish code was written as late as 1919 by W?adys?aw Boziewicz. At this time duels were already forbidden in Poland, but the "Polish Honorary Code" was quite widely in use. Punishments for participation in duels were rather mild – up to a year's imprisonment if the outcome of the duel was death or grievous bodily harm...
I think because I was a cavalry officer and was going to the front, that was considered sufficient? Perhaps this fellow was on the wrong side of the very complex politics of the time... Anyway, a small validation.


The duel I remember was a very straightforwardaffair. There was no prancing about, or dressing up or ceremony of any kind. It was all over pretty quickly. Nothing like the sort of thing you'd see in a movie.


If this was the traditional Polish way of nobles settling disputes since the Middle Ages and all taken very seriously, this rings true too. I remembered during the argument I had with her that I said something like 'what would you know about honour? You're just a woman. It's something only a man would understand!'


(My present self was little shocked at such frank sexism, but those were the days I guess).


I was being angry with her, but really I was angry with myself for not forseeing the consequences, which I really ought to have seen. I felt a fool too for letting her 'bewitch' me so with her charming and pretty ways that now seemed only shallow. We were both young and silly. It happens. I can see that from my vantage point today, but it was a very big deal at the time.
 
BriarRose said:
.. I streamed "True Blood" from the internet in a two week orgy of depraved viewing last summer...
By the way, after being so wrapped up in myself last week and beginning to snap out of it ... I wanted to say, this made me laugh out loud when I read it! I did the same thing - watched the whole thing over about in one 'depraved' fortnight. Great fun. :laugh:
 
I think I know what the tune is now. I've been feeling very broody about all this and I'm obviously not at the bottom of it yet. So, sorry to go on and on about it, but I've got nobody else to talk to about this. This stuff is no easier for me than it is for anyone else, even though I've been doing it for so long.


I googled 'Polish folk tunes piano' and this is the first one that came up. I looked it up and it dates from around this time. If it was first officially written down in the early 1800s it would have been somewhat older than that. There was a bit of a craze for recording (writing down) folk music at this time, because it had already begun to disappear. Seems about right historically. Poland was at war with various countries around this period, including the Urkraine - this song might be one of those with several variations as is common with folk tunes.


This is not the same tune as the one I was talking about that sparked all this, but the repetition of the five or six note melody over and over with variations is the element of it that struck me when I first heard the tune mentioned above and started 'feeling all funny'. I'm sure someone must have played it on the piano more than once in that room, in happier days.


A medium-sized validation.
 
Thanks for all of this. Don't worry about going on and on. It's sort of a history lesson reading about other's past lives and the research to validate what they picked up in their mind. It proves you are not CRAZY.
 
Thanks argonne.


I hope I'm not boring everyone with this. It's been preying on my mind a lot the past few weeks. I think it's all be stirred up by seeing X for the first time in over a year. I woke up in tears this morning (again) thinking about this and what it might mean for my life now, my friendship with X, what is my 'subconscious' trying to tell me?


Last night while falling asleep I had the two tunes going round and round in my head, and, actually they are quite harmonic.


The thought crossed my mind last night before I went to sleep, what if the husband (or possibly the wife or both) were Jewish? This could explain why I was thinking rather 'sniffily' about the expensive silk curtains. This could explain why I didn't get into too much trouble as well perhaps? Perhaps this was why it was impossible for us to marry for 'social' reasons (not just because of the matter of the duel). I had the feeling I was from a fine old Polish family and it just wouldn't have done at all to marry her. [This does not reflect my present day attitudes by the way. I'm just reporting what I thought at the time. Things were different then].


It would be a strange mirror paralell with the story of the little Jewish girl at the beginning of this thread. The life I believe directly preceded this one .... A pattern of some sort is emerging perhaps.
 
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I know I'm going on about this, but it keeps bothering me and won't go away. When these 'flashes' occur, they are so full of detail and nuance, you couldn't write it all out without filling a novel... but this detail keeps coming back...

She was in the room all dressed in black. She was holding a large black fan (black beading - jet probably - on the handle) and made nervous small talk about how it was her grandmother's and quite out of style, but it was the only one she had at short notice, since she hadn't had time to order any new stuff ... She hadn't worn the dress in years and she thought it was a bit small and too tight across the shoulders. I remember being irritated by this frivolous rubbish she was talking, but at the same time touched (in present time) because X is still terribly conscious of his 'fashion image' and inclined to prattle on about trivialities, especially if nervous.
She turned around to show me how tight the shoulders of the dress were ... and I saw the fabric shine across her shoulder blades and she had delicate little curls of hair on her neck that I still remember. I would have liked to touch them, but of course, under the circumstances, could not.
 
tanguerra said:
I know I'm going on about this, but it keeps bothering me and won't go away.
You carry on tanguerra, you're not 'going on' about it. I can't speak for others, but personally I find it difficult to comment on other people's memories. But I do find them fascinating, and I'm reading yours with great interest. :)
 
Same here. Maybe you'll have enough material to write a book someday. People would not have to know where it came from. I think this is how a lot of science fiction gets written.
 
Thanks guys.


Argonne, it would make a good book, but there'd need to be a happy ending and I doubt this story has one somehow.
 
Perhaps you are not someone who wants a happy ending. If the pattern keeps being repeated from life to life, both parties are getting something out of the eternal struggle. I think you are introspective enough to figure out what that might be, if you haven't already. No one else needs to know, but it's something to think about.
 
Hi BriarRose.


It's true I don't actually believe in 'happy endings'. I think all endings are sad eventually, even if what came before them was happy.


I've written elsewhere about what I think this is all about. I think this is a 'game' X and I are playing - like a bet or a dare.

...I had a sort of lucid dream/meditation once where X and I were in a spirit state, up in 'heaven' ... we were sitting around somewhat bored, up in 'heaven' and could not agree which was the worst kind of separation from a loved one: for someone you love to die, if so, to die of an illness or accident, to die if it was your fault, if it wasn't your fault, to disappear and never know what happened to them, or to be in love with someone who did not love you...
 
I hope it brings you both what you're looking for- adventure, the satisfaction of scoring a point off the other soul, whatever motivation keeps the two of you locked in your eternal tango. Blessings, whether you want them or not! ;)
 
I don't know if it's about 'point scoring'. It feels to me more like this is the most fascinating 'experiment' and we're trying to answer an important question. Yes, it is a bit like a tango though perhaps!
 
I'm exploring the connections between this Polish life and the one in Scotland.


Scotland: http://www.reincarnationforum.com/threads/scotland.2360/#post-43821

So far all I've got is a flash of me and my brothers as boys going out early one morning to hunt rabbits. It's quite a joyous memory. All I get is a flash of the backs of their skinny knees, scampering ahead of me over hill and dale, clambering over rocks, and me trying to keep up with them, but feeling very wild and free...
I've left out a detail of the incident I've described above, where I was having what was probably my last meeting with X that life. While I was exploring all the emotions of the memory (I described the feeling of 'heartbreak' in detail above) after all that I felt a sort of 'wild joy' that I was going to be able to just run away from everything and go back to what I knew best, which was fighting battles. My thoughts were something like 'I'm not made for all this 'indoor' stuff with women. I can't wait to get back on a horse and just run away from all this and get out in the countryside with my men again ...'. I thought, then and now, that this was a rather unworthy thought. The moment I remember seeing her on the steps of the church at the funeral, she did cut a rather folorn figure and I felt a stab of protective love and guilt and the hopelessness of the whole situation all combined.


There is some sort of connection going on with all this feelings of 'wild freedom' and my recent rift with X. I find it is often the case that past life memories assert themselves when your 'subconscious' is trying to tell you something, to remind you of something, to show you a link and revise you of a lesson.


I haven't seen X for over a month and where this would normally have upset me in the past and I'd be pining and sighing and missing him, or moping or feeling bored, this time I really, truly, just feel a bit relieved that in the nicest possible way, I don't care what he's up to or what amusing things he might be thinking about now, or whatever. Just being with him and seeing him makes me feel happy and content, but actually, I'm happy and content enough either way. I'll see him in a few weeks anyway at a birthday party for one of the gang that 'everyone' will be going to. That's fine with me. That will be a nice party and drama-free. That's a good thing. Perhaps at last I am free? In a good way though. Perhaps the 'compulsiveness' of the relationship is finally starting to work itself out?


'At last, at last to be free of the past and the future that beckons me....'

 
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Tanguerra said:
She turned around to show me how tight the shoulders of the dress were ... and I saw the fabric shine across her shoulder blades and she had delicate little curls of hair on her neck that I still remember. I would have liked to touch them, but of course, under the circumstances, could not.
Woke up again this morning in floods of tears again about this little moment. Love without desire. A very difficult lesson, but one I intend to master.
 
I've been wondering why this all makes me so emotional. I've been chiding myself for getting upset about something that happened hundreds of years ago. Pretty nuts, eh? Although emotionally it feels as though it happened recently (because I've only recently remembered it). I think in part it's because I couldn't cry about it then although I wanted to, so now I just keep getting big fat tears rolling down my cheeks at odd moments, as though there's catching up to do.


It's also in part because every time something 'happens' between me and X - we have one of our little disagreements - I'm always convinced I'll never see him again - every evidence to the contrary of course. He's recently had a minor health scare. Turned out to be nothing much, but it made me feel very wobbly at the time, so I think this is all intertwined.


The 'soul mate' thing is weird.
 
Maybe we cry about the past because the present is too painful. It's like the subconscious using a physical ailment as camouflage for emotional pain. In some cases, PL memories could serve the same function. In my case, moderating this forum helps distract me from present life realities! coffee
 
Perhaps, but I think it's because present day issues remind us of past life ones. There's nothing all that upsetting going on in my present life at the moment. It's fine actually regarding X anyway.
 
My name was 'Count Ladislaw Str(alphabet)ski'.


I just did a little mental exercise [what is/was your name] and it came to me. So, something for what it's worth. No idea how to spell it, but Polish names are notoriously unpronounceable.


But, some sort of a 'Count' I guess. It fits.
 
This bit belongs in 'Poland'. Just trying to keep the bits and pieces together...


From My Friend X

...Anyway the short version is, X and I and some pals went to a party at my daughter's house last night and all's back to normal.

...X was looking around the house which he helped me and my daughter paint and renovate a few years back and we were looking at the bit he had painted and so on. My daughter's cat came up to X to say hello. He's known my kids and the pets for years and years of course. It was a nice reminder of what good friends we really are and how close we've been over the years...
It just struck me how this little moment is such a mirror image of the scene I remembered in Poland in the room where once there'd been a happy party, making a rather bitter good bye, rather than a nice, relaxed moment of renewed friendship with a happy party going on.


Also, I'm not kidding, the party was a costume party and I'd come dressed as a cossack [the Polish Count in my mind], wearing my thigh high suede boots and a rather impressive jacket ensemble and my hair tied back under a fur hat (I even had a red cape just for fun). X was dressed, stylishly as usual, as himself, but he's peroxided his hair and grown it a bit longer recently and was also wearing it swept back like mine. Funny old world. :)
 
That sounds like a really dashing outfit, Tanguerra. Maybe that's why costume parties are so much fun - they allow us to express our past selves. (and some other things, too) I still dress up in a costume to answer the door at Halloween. Last year, I was a tavern wench. OMG, Jean Stewart! I think she worked in her father's public house. I will start a thread. Anyway, great costume!
 
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