Question about "The Holographic Universe"

[Cloggie777]

Hi everyone, have not posted for a long while. I am reading "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot, which has been mentioned on this forum. When he talks about "an observer", this gets me thinking, what about someone who is blind? Does "observation", in that case, mean "touch" instead of sight? I know about the quantum idea of the "multiverse", and the wave/particle uncertainty, but have trouble grasping the concept that, by looking at something, that collapses it into solid reality. Btw it is sad that he died aged 38, I didn't know that before. Happy Christmas to everyone

 

[stardis]

I also have trouble with understanding that concept. I am certainly not an expert on this so these are just my own thoughts. I think you are correct about "touch" in that all of our available senses must come into play when experiencing this reality. However, I don't think that we are necessarily the ones who are creating the universe that we are experiencing. It could be that the Consciousness that created us has also created the holographic pattern that we are experiencing. Our human brains are the receivers for the energy patterns in which we are immersed and our brains allow us to experience the patterns as real objects that have certain characteristics such as visual, tactile, auditory or olfactory. That the holographic energy field(s) exist at all is difficult to visualize because it is "outside" of our ordinary senses. We have to rely on what others have learned about reality, either through the physical sciences or through spiritual experience, to give us some added insight to the reality of our existence.

 

[Cloggie777]

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Stardis, thanks for your reply. I just found this

 

[Cloggie777]

also this


this link A few years ago there was an article in "Prediction" magazine: a man from Manchester was taking his wife to hospital. She was about to have a baby. They were in a car crash. He woke up in hospital and was told his wife had had a caesaerian operation to deliver the baby. He was concussed, went back to sleep (or semi-consciousness). When he awoke it appeared that he had no family and was single. I can't recall what order these things happened in, but at some point his daughter left a bunch of flowers. When he stayed permanently in the parallel world in which he had never been married, the bunch of flowers remained there. He visited the house where his wife's parents had lived in the alternate world, only to find an elderly couple living there who he had never met. It says that he sought psychiatric help because of the obvious shock of "waking up" in a different "world".


I have given this subject a lot of thought over the past few years and now feel that I agree with Hugh Everett's theory that reality does not "collapse" but all probabilities exist simultaneously- sometimes we find ourselves in an alternate reality, and not through our own choice. In my personal experience: I nearly died when I was 21. Is there an alternate world in which I did actually die? I know that sounds morbid, but there is a "car crash" example in that link.

 

[stardis]

I have given this subject a lot of thought over the past few years and now feel that I agree with Hugh Everett's theory that reality does not "collapse" but all probabilities exist simultaneously- sometimes we find ourselves in an alternate reality, and not through our own choice.

Thanks for those links. Like you, I am beginning to lean toward the "all probabilities" theory. Do you think that is what Chopra is saying?

 

[Ginger_Mandrake]

Honestly, after reading all of your posts and the links provided, I think my head is going to explode...I really can't even begin to understand this stuff.

 

[Nightrain]

I don't think it is necessary to concern oneself with these issues of quantum theory, parallel or holographic universes, time travel, and multiple dimensions. It is wonderful and very interesting that Everett's theory was recently supported by mathematical proof, and I find such things immensely interesting. It may also help us accept the concept of reincarnation, which was once considered impossible.


But, unless one is winning money by playing the odds in a card game or roulette table, we are still dealing with Newtonian Physics in the context of what our senses tell us in this present dimension. Right now, all we seem capable of doing is living in this life, no matter how confusing it seems. And, it's reasonable to believe that we can't go back to prevent the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.


Of course, there would be nothing better than having a time machine in our basement that would provide us with the opportunity to change or correct something in the past. Have any of us considered what would happen if everyone had such a device? We would find ourselves living in an incomprehensible world. Even though such things as holographic parallel universes do exist, as supposedly proven by a group of Oxford scientists. It won't change anything in our present semi-comprehensive existence.


That cookie we had last night may still be the reason why we gained just a little more weight. And, our car will still have a blowout on the way to our own wedding ceremony, which means that poor Henry won't be born, and the Third World Was was avoided.


With this new discovery we can accept one scientific theory as well as any opposing theory without being in conflict with ourselves or with each other. We can also accept that reincarnation is possible in a world where everything seems governed by cause and effect. Although we can't jump from one reality onto another into the past, like Tarzan from vine to vine; we MAY be able to come back to correct the mistakes of our previous life through Karma and reincarnation.


Just my 2.21475 cents.