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Rebirth Island

Mammatus

A Squid With a Rocketship
(pardon the pun ;) )


I was helping a member of another forum with research and validations regarding the Soviet bio-chem warfare program, when I came across "Vozrozhdeniya" or Rebirth Island. So anyway, reading about this place (and having played Black-Ops :laugh: ), I noticed that not only did I feel very put-off by the island, it was too familiar to me.

Now, if you don't already know, I've been looking into the possibility of a parallel life in WWII- early Cold War. As far as I know, I was part of the NKVD (later the KGB, but under Stalin it was the NKVD). The Ninth Directorate to be precise. Anyway, what they were in charge of was providing bodyguards to key party members and their families, the Kremlin and various facilities around the Soviet Union.

I thought, alright this makes sense. I've come to be under the impression that I may or may not have been one such "bodyguard" of Beria, and so my "it make sense" and "this rings a bell" streak continues.

Then I was re-alerted, so to speak, of the existence of Rebirth Island, and I couldn't figure out why the place sounded so familiar. And then it hit me.

While invading Manchuria at the conclusion of WWII, Soviet troops captured Japanese scientists and learned of their human experimentation through captured documents and prisoner interrogations. Subsequently, Stalin put "his Himmler" (Beria. And yes, apparently he once introduced Beria this way) in charge of a new BW program.


Now, I only know of the existence of two bodyguards of Beria (Colonel Sarkisov and Nadaraia), but they are only recorded for the simple fact that Beria was eventually charged with multiple accounts of rape, etc. However, knowing what I do about the NKVD and Soviet documentation as a whole, I think it's very likely Beria had more than two bodyguards, and being who he was, probably visited Vozrozhdeniya on occasion.



My theory: I was a "bodyguard" (so to speak) of Beria, who accompanied him quite often to a place in the Aral sea known as "Vozrozhdeniya" or "Rebirth Island".

So what do you guys think? I only have 1-2 memories regarding this, and everything else is just impressions and feelings, and that innate "knowing".


(Vozrozhdeniya was a major Soviet facility for microbiological weaponry, research and laboratories. It was established clandestinely in 1948 in the Aral Sea between Russia, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan. It is no longer geographically distinctive and is shared by the latter two countries. The BW weapons programs began in the 1920s, despite the USSR being a signatory on the 1925 Geneva Convention, which banned the assembly and use of biological weaponry)
 
I don't know how any of this eventually wound me up near Khrushchev, because I know that I took off somewhere when Beria was being tried and executed in 1953.


But, with the Vozrozhdeniya thing, I recall having a dream when I was about 4-5 y/o, and I remember specifically being in an underground bunker with a bunch of scientists running around.


I wonder if it's possible that I was dreaming about Vozrozhdeniya. I remember specifically being told "not to touch anything" because it was "very dangerous", and I wasn't wearing any protection (I'm a genius : angel )


It was one of those dreams I had in line with the reoccuring ones, that I now wonder if I was viewing PL memories. Of course, the one, due the nature and environment in the dream and at 4-5 y/o, made me feel like I was watching the apocalypse. But I don't think the two are connected.
 
Honestly, thanks to you, my Cold War knowledge is getting better. :laugh:


I don't know much about Rebirth Island as the part I know comes from Black Ops, and I doubt that'll help you... : angel (Sorry)


But good luck finding though! I'll try my best and help.
 
Don't worry, I first heard about Rebirth Island through Black Ops too. Finished that game in one day, and have hated Reznov since the minute I began playing it.


In regards to Cold War knowledge, I'm going to have to tell my dad that if he tries to argue anymore about what Stalin did or didn't do, or tries to argue about Hitler being a good military commander *facepalm*.... MAD is sure to ensue (MAD= Mutually Assured Destruction. It was the implementation of this policy that kept the USSR and the US from nuking each other to high heaven.)


I am -trying to- focus my attention on learning more about this PL, but I guarantee I'll get sidetracked. However, I don't think I loose interest in it though. Or at least, I hope not. o.O


And now looking back, I find it ironic that I have repeatedly compared Beria to Himmler, because as I said, Stalin once introduced Beria to an American ambassador as "his Himmler".


I also do remember Beria having Sarkisov keep a list of well, Beria's conquests >.>


It's times like these that I must say that Stalin's paranoia could be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I hate Stalin as much as the next man, but I believe there are certain instances where his paranoia may have been a good thing.
 
I think I heard somewhere that Stalin said that Beria's 'his Himmler'.. But where...? (I don't study Cold War stuff, maybe I got it while searching through Stalin's bio..)


You mean, his paranoia is good for PL study..?


Don't hate Reznov, dude! I think he's the best soldier in there! :D
 
Question


You said that you had a memory of when you were 4 or 5 years old, and I re-read that part over and over again because I must admit I am quite confused. Were you 4 or 5 throughout this whole past life memory you were talking about or were you just remembering also your child life of this PL ? Please help, because I find your past life discussions intriguing and wish to better understand them. :confused:
 
Oh, no problem. I'm confusing :rolleyes:


I had that dream when I was 4-5 y/o in this life. My age in the dream however, was never revealed to me. And I still don't know :freak:


Ignotus, actually I meant that his paranoia helped in situations like with Beria, for example. Stalin wouldn't leave his daughter Svetlana alone with Beria (with good reason). Another example would be post-WWII. In the years following the Second World War, Yugoslav partisan leader and eventual Yugoslav president, Josep Broz Tito, had shot down at least four American transports over Yugoslavia (well, he had the military do it). Stalin, paranoid that they would get into a war with the West, ordered him to stop aggravating the West. Although Tito still didn't comply with most of Stalin's demands, the whole shot down transport thing ended, at least as far as I know.


I do believe that Stalin's bio on Wikipedia (or Beria's, whichever one) does say something about the "his Himmler" thing. I read that elsewhere, but I do believe I saw it there as well.


Bah....Weaver is best ;)
 
Oh yeah, I remembered that he love his daughter a lot. Much more than his son.


...Weaver...>.> (Oh well..)
 
I'm gonna be lazy and devote the rest of this thread to updates with my PL research for this life, as well as anything else I remember.


So let me start.


Reading the rather grotesque and gruesome memory of someone on another forum triggered a dream last night.


I was a Soviet officer, doing rolecall for POWs (mostly German, with some Polish, Romanian, and most probably a couple conspirators). I'm assuming we were at a POW camp, and we were in the process of deportation and executions. It was fall I believe, as myself and the other men with me were wearing trench coats to keep warm, while the prisoners all froze in their unfit-for-the-weather attire (unsurprisingly). When I called the name of a German POW, he didn't respond although he was standing right in front of me. I stepped forward and ordered him to respond. He said something I didn't like and I proceeded to hit him in the face really hard and beat him. Another POW, Polish I believe, stepped forward and he tried to stop me, but I pushed him to the ground and raised my gun (I was told that the Pole was my cousin, which I think she may find interesting).


What struck me as odd though, was that this officer I was viewing the incident as, was the same officer that led myself and other men around the bootcamp I mentioned in another dream!


This wasn't long prior to being employed to Beria (this I have verified). I don't know much about the NKVD and the NKGB, but I do know that the NKVD was involved during WWII in arresting, deporting, and executing collaborators with Germany and anti-Communist movements in the liberated territories (they should execute and deport themselves. They were the ones collaborating with the Gestapo prior to the German invasion of Russia).


As such, is it possible that maybe I was viewing an event that I had taken part in, from the perspective of a superior officer, instead of my own self?


Also, Ignotus, that particular introduction occured at the Yalta Conference in 1945. Which I was present at. Said friend employed to Molotov, and I, were sitting in another room joking around about how we theorised that Beria had ordered the Soviet soldiers to do some of the things they did when they got to Germany. The conference took a recess and Beria was the first one to walk in on us joking about it. He didn't hear anything we said (he probably had us microphoned though, because he's like that >.>), but he raised one eyebrow really high. Then he shook his head and held up his hands as if to say "I don't want to know" :laugh:
 
I've also managed to make another connection between then and now.


I have this fascination with nuclear or atomic anything. Physics, engineering, warfare, war, etc.


Beria had his hand in everything apparently, because he was also placed in charge of the Soviet atomic weapons program, and was supposed to have the first bomb tested by 1949.


This, might explain the dream I had and the red button that the one scientist pushed. It makes sense. The only place I know of that they tested nuclear arms was Novaya Zemlya, but I know that can't be the only place. Hmmm.......


I also remember that we NKVD bodyguards took shifts. Although Beria did do a pretty good job of screwing those shifts up with some of his late night activities.


Lavrentiy, comrade, you really need to find another hobby >.> you're making me lose sleep
 
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