The Difference Between A "Vision" and a "Thought"?

[TheCuriousOne]

I have had bits of past lives come through, but they are almost always visual thoughts, not "visions". I have heard people talk about how they could literally "see" the scene unfold infront of them, it sure seemed stronger than mere visual thinking. Sorry if that sounded confusing.

What I mean is this: Normally, a vision is thought of as actually seeing a scene unfold in front of you, as though you were actually there. Visual thought refers to using your imagination to picture a scene in your head. However, I will give myself credit by saying I was in a relaxed state and of a clear mind when I had my PL thoughts.

Also, the night before, I kept thinking about how I wanted to see the face of a recently uncovered past life. So I decided to focus on my feet and suddenly I snapped up to my face. Was that real, or fake? How does "facial realisation" usually go?

Thank you for your advice! :thumbsup:

 

[deborah]

HI,


Eevee once posted:

Usually there is first a 'visual memory', that might be an image, or a complete scene. Most often I come to know more about that PL during meditation, dreams, or outside triggers.
But the most fascinating part I find the 'knowing' of other things that happened in that lifetime, without a visual memory. Like, when you see in your minds eye, or you relive a scene from a PL, and you know all the circumstances that led to that scene, without visualizing the whole thing.


It may sound like 'weaving a story around a memory', but it isn't, it is actual knowing or remembering the past in that life.

Ask yourself if you know other things about your experience. What were the circumstances? The time period? The culture? Again - what were you feeling that brought you there besides curiosity.

 

[Jim78]

For me I have had visions of past lives. Before I see the vision there is a tunneling effect kind of like the tunnel one sees at death except not as long, almost like looking through an iris where the vision unfolds as the tunnel dissipates. Then it's a full colour vision that plays out in real time. They can last anything from a second to 10 seconds. Sometimes though the vision changes scenes, almost like it has been edited so I can see a short narrative unfolding before me. It just sort of morphs from one instance to another. It's always in the first person and for the narrative like visions I do get a sense of my motivations at the time. My most intense visions remind me of this poem:

Through A Glass Darkly

Perhaps I stabbed our Savior
In His sacred helpless side.
Yet I've called His name in blessing
When in after times I died.

Through the travail of the ages
Midst the pomp and toil of war
Have I fought and strove and perished
Countless times upon this star.

I have sinned and I have suffered
Played the hero and the knave
Fought for belly, shame or country
And for each have found a grave.

So as through a glass and darkly
The age long strife I see
Where I fought in many guises,
Many names - but always me.

So forever in the future
Shall I battle as of yore,
Dying to be born a fighter
But to die again once more.

General George S Patton Jnr

One thing my vision's have shown me is that no matter the context or time period or social situation I was always me. I understand who that person whose eye's I'm looking out into the past through is. Some visions are just scenes though but even then I have recognised individuals in them.

 

[Inhaltslos]

I have had bits of past lives come through, but they are almost always visual thoughts, not "visions". I have heard people talk about how they could literally "see" the scene unfold infront of them, it sure seemed stronger than mere visual thinking. Sorry if that sounded confusing.

What I mean is this: Normally, a vision is thought of as actually seeing a scene unfold in front of you, as though you were actually there. Visual thought refers to using your imagination to picture a scene in your head. However, I will give myself credit by saying I was in a relaxed state and of a clear mind when I had my PL thoughts.

I think that visions and thoughts could be two different things, sure. My memories are 'visions' that I was either just born with or have come to me over time, as if I were actually there. As for thoughts, there are several people I know who use 'automatic writing' as a means of memory retrieval (this is when you can, for example, choose a random date and write what you are doing. Some folks have written shockingly accurate, detailed things this way that also helped uncover other memories). A 'thought memory' could also be when you just 'know' something. I didn't have to have an actual memory to have accurate, though usually dull and trivial, knowledge about my former life and the people in it.

 

[Cassie]

Visions are subconscious and tend to come at random, triggered by places, people, objects, often coming with accompaniments like the emotions felt, or the ambiance of the time.
Like the way the sun felt on my skin, the grass between my fingers, the warmth of the fire and the spicy heat of the alcohol in my glass, or their arms around me.
Sometimes I can almost hear their voices, the crackle of the campfire, the trickling water, or the instruments we play together.

Thoughts are conscious, because I'm making an effort to recall something.
Usually they just scroll through like I'm reading a book or looking at pictures, little snapshots in a photo album.
I have after-thoughts about my visions, where I analyse them, break them down, retain them to the scrapbook in my mind.

I believe both things are different. One is almost like reliving an experience, like being in a movie, and the other is recalling the events that happened, like watching a movie.

Also, I can remember my face, but I can't draw it for the life of me, every time I try to narrow in on details it all becomes super messy, it's like I can only see it from a distance.
I did a drawing that was pretty close, but not close enough.