This cannot be memory as we know it!

[karlsult]

Hi,

A story I read says child remembered he was murdered, but also where the murderer buried his body, and also where the murder weapon was found.

He told the village elders all this and they found both the body, and an axe in those locations.

It makes some sense to remember things that you once remembered, e.g. your name, etc. But this child remember something that happened after his death (where axe was hidden).

Also he remember the murderer name (something he didn't even know in his past life).

So to me these aren't memories.

Link to story: http://www.mindpowernews.com/3YearOldReincarnation.htm

 

[deborah]

Welcome Karlsult,


I am curious if you think consciousness is contained within the brain? What are your thoughts on how memories are carried from one life to another?

 

[Mere Dreamer]

Isn't there more than one kind of memory?


I don't think these elements are "body memories" but things that are noticed from another level of consciousness. Some people are better at accessing this "external knowledge" than others, even when it isn't applied to past lives. It's connected to that "knowing" twins or deeply aware people have even when they're far apart, IMO.


LOL I'm not sure "science" is at the level where it can even begin to grasp how that works, especially when it hasn't even figured out the scope of how regular memory functions.

 

[Stellaria]

There are plenty of reports from those who remember how they died in a past life that also state that they rose above or became separate from their body, and could see themselves dead and what was happening around them.


I consider it an extension of the out-of-body experience that many many other people have been able to report having happened to them. The only difference being that the soul left the body permanently because it was dead.


It sounds to me like you're working too hard to try to wedge reincarnation into what we already know about how the body works, without taking into consideration the fact that we just don't know very much about what makes humans human, and the soul the soul, and the personality the personality. Scientifically speaking, I mean. Just think of it as science that is still awaiting its' body of research

 

[Mere Dreamer]

science that is still awaiting its' body of research

LOL "body" ... ehehe, that struck my pun-sense, though there is a level of truth to that, too. This particular set of theories isn't yet fully formed.

 

[Ceridwen]

To me, I would just take it that it isn't necessarily the case that someone instantly "takes off and leaves" for pastures new the second they die. I have read cases of where people who died in a perfectly normal way hung around for a few hours in order to go and bid farewell to someone close to them (eg a beloved grandchild or the like).


That being the case, then I think it all the more likely that someone will hang around long enough to try and deal with any unfinished business they have. Being murdered would certainly constitute "unfinished business" in my book and I would be likely to hang around long enough to try and pick up what details I could of that murder, in order to get what "evidence" I could in my own mind to be able to ensure "justice was done". So, I would have hung around long enough to see the murder weapon/find out the murderers name/etc with the intention to do what I could to use those facts (if I had the opportunity) to ensure the murderer was brought to justice.


I couldn't "sleep easy" after death if I hadn't at least tried the best I could to ensure the murderer was punished.


Hence perfectly feasible that I would have the memories of things that happened after I was actually dead.

 

[karlsult]

Welcome Karlsult,
I am curious if you think consciousness is contained within the brain? What are your thoughts on how memories are carried from one life to another?

Books like those of Joseph Murphy ("The Power of the Subconscious Mind") talk about the power of the subconscious mind/higher self.


I think this information the child knows come from it.


It may be the subsconscious/higher self re-incarnated and it keeps a record like storage of all experiences, etc. Some people just have more connection to it as child than others, etc.


Either way I think the subconscious has got to do with all this.


In his books they're filled with stories of people using this power to find lost things, cure, see the future in dreams, etc. So if someone wants to study reincarnation maybe we need to understand more about the subconscious powers.