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Mere Dreamer

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I have no idea whether this has a meaning, since it came out of a casual meditation when I wasn't really planning to check out a PL.

I was standing in a robe of some sort, looking over a valley with someone, and this is what I heard ... only it was like someone was pausing the sound between bits, so I have no idea how it's supposed to flow. I am trying to decide whether to connect it all into one word or put in spaces. *shrug*

Google translate has no idea what it is.

onra ... eldu tarasu kederu mielde san goremi eldo adara gamiseto
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Anybody else have odd collections of words or sounds that you don't know what they mean?... if they mean anything ... We might as well make this thread a place for them.
 
Dreamer, that sounds a bit like "Elvish", but google can probably translate that, along with Klingon, and Bajoran. Seriously, that's fascinating. I once woke up chanting "Ra-Am", the moon is rising." It sounds vaguely Egyptian.
 
The sounds came across like someone was sounding out the words for a slow scribe. Heh. Reminds me of teaching my kids to write.


It's nice when the words actually mean something, BriarRose! An Egyptian past life would be interesting. I'd like to see some of the ancient culture first-hand, that's for sure.
 
It's kind of amazing you remembered such a long phrase, in an unknown tongue. It could have been from a very ancient life, before written language. What was your appearance? Was the robe in an ancient style? I toy with the idea that Atlantis existed, even though I have no strong feelings about it. Sometimes when I dream about a PL the name is actually spelled for me, like "they" are afraid I'll get it wrong!
 
It's hard to tell what I was wearing I just noticed it was pulling against my body in a strong breeze, since I was focused on looking out on the valley and noticing some yellow flowers in the grass. (I meditate with my fingers on a keyboard so I can type anything as it comes to mind.)


It did show up just after a snippet that had some clearly defined Asian elements ... I'm thinking Japan ... but maybe those roofs that turn up in the corners are found elsewhere also? I ran a quick search and it looked a LOT like this, even to the colors, though there was more red and some gilding. Not sure if the two were related, though.


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Edit ... also found this: I figured discussion of the PL should go over on the thread linked below, since I really do want to find out more about other's language experiences here, if possible.


This does make me think it might be Japanese??? Some of the sections do come up as Japanese words individually, but I simply can't figure out the breaks or if I've mis-typed some of the sounds ...

Mere Dreamer said:
One part that was interesting to me is that the man had loose, flowing black hair. I was watching it fly in the wind as he turned to face me. I was expecting a ... face. Instead, there was this red and white thing which startled the me, now. (The me back then seemed to know what was going on.) I typed something about "Japan man facepaint" into google and was really surprised to get this:
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I have no idea if it looked exactly like this. It's close enough that I felt stunned. Why on earth a kabuki performer would be meeting with my PL avatar out on a hillside is beyond me, but at least I haven't lost my mind in seeing a red and white "thing" instead of a face. And this means the phrase might actually be in Japanese? Hmm...
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His facepaint is really stunning. It really brings out the color of his eyes. Maybe Kabuki face paint are really patterns from something more ancient?
 
Hi Dreamer,


my immediate thought as soon as I saw it was Japanese.


We get lots of Asian visitors here and have had very, very basic language courses. I don't recognise any words though but the flow of it is ver Japanese like. This matches your image also. Failing that I wonder about some of the smaller pacific islands.:cool
 
Now that is interesting Mere Dreamer. Also to consider if it is Japanese or whatever language, that all languages change thru time.


One time several years ago when I had a real strong visionary recollection of when I was a Mountain Shoshone (Sheepeater), I felt like the old language was right there on the very tip of my tongue and could about speak it. At times it seems I do mumble a few Native American words it seems at times which do not know what I am saying.


Also I don't know if this means anything but years ago in my youth, when I was helping a missionary down in Mexico. It seemed at that time that I learned Spanish extremely quickly. I had taken it in school but did not do all that well. But when I went on down to Mexico, here I was speaking it in no time whish I always felt as interesting.


Wishing Everyone the Best!
 
Hi Kmat,


I always think the picking up of a language is a Pl indicator. I recognise Spanish and Italian quickly, others not so much. It's interesting the way you picked it up in Mexico when you hadn't been that good at school. I really didn't understand it in parts of South America. I just put it down to different types of accent.


I have surprised myself with more form a Mexican life which I think may have ventured into parts of either Central or South America. Both places have always interested me greatly and I'd love to have more extensive time there-again another indicator.


Sorry, hope I haven't stolen your thresd Dreamer.
 
Talking about language is on-topic, starrynight. :)


I, too, have the worst time with "school-type" language experiences. You'd think I would remember Spanish from my childhood, too, but no. I was too shy to practice, and now I can understand a lot when people speak, but don't ask me how to say anything beyond basic phrases. I'll add that I've often had very fluent Spanish conversations in dreams. It fascinates me, and I really wish I knew how to get past that mental barrier and reach what I clearly know.


I do have a fascination with Japan and even started working on learning the greetings and such ... but they just drift out of my head. I can't even remember how to say good evening half the time, after two years of trying. Hopefully when I go live there one day (I hope!) I'll have an easier time in real life with real people. Maybe my mind will allow me to remember when it's actually useful? Grrr!


It's so bad that I can't even identify words in my own vision ... *laugh*
 
Mere Dreamer said:
I have no idea whether this has a meaning, since it came out of a casual meditation when I wasn't really planning to check out a PL.
I was standing in a robe of some sort, looking over a valley with someone, and this is what I heard ... only it was like someone was pausing the sound between bits, so I have no idea how it's supposed to flow. I am trying to decide whether to connect it all into one word or put in spaces. *shrug*


Google translate has no idea what it is.


Anybody else have odd collections of words or sounds that you don't know what they mean?... if they mean anything ... We might as well make this thread a place for them.
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Not quite Japanese, but some of the words in your sentence sound vaguely like the Farsi words...


On ra (them)


Tarsu (frightened/afraid)


Kardi (made them)


... you frightened them...
 
Interesting, Lynnette! It would be amazing to have the phrase make such good sense in any language.


Farsi ...hmmm... I have to go look up where they speak this. *laugh*
 
ZeonChar said:
Farsi is spoken in current Iran which used to be Persia and is an area rich in culture and diversity.
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And since the overthrow of the Shah there is a large ex-patriot population world wide, including my area. There are many YouTube videos in Farsi if you care to look at them. Speaking of which, this week is Persian New Year.
 
Spent an hour running everything and it's similar sounds through a Japanese-English dictionary. I'm not confident it would make sense if you spoke this to someone, but it's all words?

onna / woman
eidoo / migration or movement?


tarasu / cajole, deceive, seduce (transitive verb)


kede(n) / turning evil into good through indoctrination


Rumie / a female given name?


de / at, in


sango / after childbirth


gemi(n) / lower classes {or kemi(su) / to inspect, examine, pass time}


doa(i) / degree; extent


dara(ku) / depravity; corruption; degradation


gami / high class; graceful {or Kami / god, diety, honorific for high rank or mistress/wife}


Setoo / surname or family name


onra ... eldu tarasu kede rumie l de sango remie l doa dara gamiseto
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onra ... eldu tarasu kederu mielde san goremi eldo adara gamiseto


Must be an ancient language. Google translate detected it as Estonian but couldn't make the translation. Modern Estonian translation sites won't do it either.
 
The images you got weren't Celtic, Dreamer, but that was my initial thought about the language.


I read it aloud, and it does sound Japanese!
 
My inner nudge has been saying "Japan" since the beginning, which is why I'm so persistent about researching from that angle.


I'm sitting here laughing at my inept "translation" ...


woman ... a seductive move to indoctrinate ... Rumi as a pass-time after childbirth ... the extent of the corruption ... Sir Seto.


Hah! It's all wrong, of course, but I feel like I've done all I can so I'm going to think about other things.
 
Mere Dreamer said:
My inner nudge has been saying "Japan" since the beginning, which is why I'm so persistent about researching from that angle.
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I think impulses mean something and are pushing us in the right direction often enough. Without impulses, we wouldn't be attracted to things that have that familiar pull that I think stem from past lives. I always say go with your gut and let the confirmations/validations come later. Don't doubt. Let the information come to you and see if it fits or doesn't. Trust your own instinct first and foremost. Don't let anyone tell you what is or isn't right for you because only you can know that.
 
Hi Mere Dreamer...


Studying languages has always been a pleasure for me...and through all my studies I have learned that a language is not made up of words, but thoughts! First we have a thought, and then we give it a word...therefore to translate words alone is often not enough. Here a small example from German to English:


In German...”Das ist so sicher wie das Amen in der Kirche”...which word for word translated means...”That is so sure like the Amen in the church”. In English we would say...”You can count on me!”


What you can see here is the thought behind these two sentences, which is the same...the words only used to express that which is thought. Can you make a “thought” out of those words you have translated???
 
Here is another example:


Spanish: "Hasta la Vista"


English literal translation: "Until the view"


Common translation: "Good bye"


Also Spanish speakers answer the phone with "Bueno".
 
I'm pretty satisfied just to know it's "real words" ... Knowing the complexities of language, I don't even hope to translate a meaning, myself.


My friend joked that he might even be quoting a line from a kabuki play. *laugh*
 
Here's a "factoid" that might help - might not! Kabuki was first performed by a shrine maiden, or priestess, around 1600. It had a religious origin, but was quickly taken over by prostitutes. That caused the government to ban women from the theater, and the performers to be men. I suppose the question might be to ask if that style of face painting was used before Kabuki. These "snippets" are tantalizing - Guidance never gives us quite enough "hints" to unravel the mystery. I often think they like teasing us. :laugh:
 
ZeonChar said:
Farsi is spoken in current Iran which used to be Persia and is an area rich in culture and diversity.
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Yes, Persia is the main stronghold of the Farsi language, but I believe it is also used, or at least, words are (grammar varying somewhat) in quite a few countries around that area.


I learnt Farsi from my friend at school and I remember marvelling at how poetically orientated it was. Unfortunately, it has been a long time since I've last used it. So maybe other words in your sentence have meanings too, but I don't remember them.


If you associate the words with the feeling of being Japanese though, I would also agree that this would be a strong indicator.
 
Having written that, I just recalled another word - ei dad, which kind of means something along the lines of 'oh, dear'.


you could have ...on ra, ei dad, tarsu kardi = oh dear, you have frightened them!


If I came face to face with a mask like that, I'm sure someone would be passing a similar comment with regards to me!!
 
Also Spanish speakers answer the phone with "Bueno".
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Really? Well, not in Spain to be certain, I've never heard that... We commonly say "¿Diga?" o "Dígame".
 
Mere Dreamer said:
The sounds came across like someone was sounding out the words for a slow scribe. Heh. Reminds me of teaching my kids to write.
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I would focus in on this aspect of it. You 'know' what the words mean. You don't have to ask 'us'. Ponder on it and the meaning will come to you along with the significance of it. Nine times out of ten the meaning is something that will relate directly to you, right now.


What were you doing? What were the emotions? How does all this make you feel? In there 'somewhere' you know what this is about. It's probably Japanese, since that is your intuition. Just keep 'pondering' on it. Don't try too hard. It will just come. Trust yourself. Follow your heart. You know what this is. Just take your time.
 
shadowsofmypast said:
Here's one one of mine
doslekis mysosis camhu


nyrins kmosen latche teac


duorin .
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Ancient Greek, maybe? Did any images or feelings come with these words?
 
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