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Pyewacket

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Are mental illnesses just a roll of the genetic dice? Is it a karmic condition? If it's due to karma- won't that cause more bad karma? Or will the suffering from such conditions teach and refine you for future lives?
 
The answer depends on whether you believe that we have some degree of choice in selecting our genetic blueprint. My personal belief is that we do. I don't think a string of Karma would be initiated by the choice of such a life - it would be more a learning experience. Of course, a lot would be determined by the nature of the mental illness.
 
Pyewacket said:
Are mental illnesses just a roll of the genetic dice? Is it a karmic condition? If it's due to karma- won't that cause more bad karma? Or will the suffering from such conditions teach and refine you for future lives?
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I wish I knew the answer to this myself. My brother was diagnosed as schizophrenic two years ago and it has really torn our family up. He can't live life normally anymore. It breaks my heart and I hope I don't get it.
 
Pyewacket said:
Are mental illnesses just a roll of the genetic dice? Is it a karmic condition? If it's due to karma- won't that cause more bad karma? Or will the suffering from such conditions teach and refine you for future lives?
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I think it could be either. For some it may be a lesson and for others, a roll of the genetic dice. In ether case it is often difficult for the person who has a mental illness as it is for their family. I have had to deal with severe depression for multiple lives and possibly bipolar disorder in my last one. BP disorder runs in my family now and I'm glad I don't have to deal with that now, only depression and anxiety. Some of which may be past life related and alot this life related.
 
HeatherMarie said:
I wish I knew the answer to this myself. My brother was diagnosed as schizophrenic two years ago and it has really torn our family up. He can't live life normally anymore. It breaks my heart and I hope I don't get it.
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I'm sorry for your brother, you, and your family. I hope that you all find the strength and compassion to help each other through it all. Is there a good support system through the hospital? People don't understand unless they've experienced this for themselves.
 
Widmo said:
I think it could be either. For some it may be a lesson and for others, a roll of the genetic dice. In ether case it is often difficult for the person who has a mental illness as it is for their family. I have had to deal with severe depression for multiple lives and possibly bipolar disorder in my last one. BP disorder runs in my family now and I'm glad I don't have to deal with that now, only depression and anxiety. Some of which may be past life related and alot this life related.
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Widmo, I hope things get better and that you have good people in your life to help you heal. It is difficult for the whole family, especially when you're trying your best to cope with your own problems.


I think all of us who have experienced this in one way or another have an opportunity to develop true compassion and empathy from these painful times. We can learn to see things from a deeper perspective that many cannot.
 
Pyewacket said:
I'm sorry for your brother, you, and your family. I hope that you all find the strength and compassion to help each other through it all. Is there a good support system through the hospital? People don't understand unless they've experienced this for themselves.
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He has great counselors and doctors. He gets SSI as well. I am afraid he will never be well enough to live on his own though. His anxiety is awful & he can't drive or hold down a job. He's also incredibly gullible and not very "street smart" if you know what I mean. If it wasn't for his medicine he would be in a facility. It's devastating to live with. I'm afraid when my mom passes on it will become my problem and I don't want to take care of anyone. I worry about his future, I feel like it was robbed from him. He completed two years of college to be a teacher and had to drop out because his illness. :(
 
He told me once that his mind will envision himself jumping off bridges, and he'll gets the urge to jump off when on one. Apparently he thinks about it quite a lot. (& yes he has told his doctors about this.) I believe it could be PL related... he thinks that the concept of past lives is nonsense though!
 
I have wondered this question for a long time,


years ago I started to have schizophrenic signs that were getting bad fast,


I panicked a bit, at first, but then started looking at solutions,


turned out a clark zapper (built it myself for other reasons) fixed it in about 7 min.


I am fairly convinced that it is caused by a low level background infection of the brain messing with the chemicals (or at least some of the time)


I would have had an very different life had I not fixed it,


so was that or was that not a life I was suppose to have ?


what is the spiritual value of a cold or flu ?


at some point I just decided to create my own life and not worry about what could have been,


as I see it, I don't have any other choice that I really like
 
My sympathy to all who live with this problem.


Spacecase, I think you were meant to cure yourself, because that is what happened. By the way, I'm glad you did, because we enjoy your contributions on the forum. It's hard to talk about illnesses of all kinds from a PL perspective, because people are understandably sensitive about bad situations. They ask "Why? and did he/she/I "deserve" it?" It's hard to think that we may have chosen a life path that involves tragedy, and not everyone believes that we do. People insist that Karma isn't a punishment, but it sure can feel like one!
 
HeatherMarie said:
He has great counselors and doctors. He gets SSI as well. I am afraid he will never be well enough to live on his own though. His anxiety is awful & he can't drive or hold down a job. He's also incredibly gullible and not very "street smart" if you know what I mean. If it wasn't for his medicine he would be in a facility. It's devastating to live with. I'm afraid when my mom passes on it will become my problem and I don't want to take care of anyone. I worry about his future, I feel like it was robbed from him. He completed two years of college to be a teacher and had to drop out because his illness. :(
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HeatherMarie- This is so sad. He's aware enough to know that something is wrong and that probably makes it much worse. He's not in a state of mind to explore PL theories. He's got a lot on his plate and so do you and your family. Caring for him is a big responsibility. I don't want to pry into too many details, but it might be a good thing to discuss with your parents so they can plan for his future.
 
Is he supervised by some agency? In CA there are regional centers with social workers, etc. who keep tabs on them and are a good resource. When the time comes they are able to place them in either group homes or independent living. They also can arrange for having their bills payed, etc. I know because my brother was in this situation untill he died 2 years ago.
 
Aren't we all on some sort of "mental health" spectrum anyway? That's how I think of it personally anyway...


As far as I have worked out to date there are two "spectrums" we are on and different people will be at different points on that spectrum.


One spectrum is re whether we are heterosexual or homosexual - or somewhere in between. I see that as a sliding scale and am thankful (because its just so much easier a place to be) that I am bang up at the end of the heterosexual end of that particular scale and obviously "glued in place" at that end of the scale. This...whilst being aware that some people are bang down at the homosexual end of that "scale" and some others "slide up and down a bit" dependant on circumstances.


The other "scale" I have noticed is the one that goes from 100% mentally healthy and totally rational down to the other end of that scale (which would equal "never ever rational etc"). My own personal experience is, by and large, grateful that I am near to the 100% mentally healthy end of the scale...whilst aware that at times I end up totally furious and upset with myself that I "slid" a little bit down the scale and responded in a "non-rational" way to something that just happened. At those times I can only console myself with thinking "Well some people are down the other end of that scale all the time" and "Other people slide a lot more frequently and a lot worse than I ever do and I have never yet noticed anyone being able to hold their position 100% of the time at the rational/logical end of the scale ALL the time - so I must stop beating myself up when there is a bit of a 'slide' at intervals and I wonder what the hell I was thinking of in my response to a particular situation..."


That's how it looks to me personally anyway and I'd hazard a guess that there are possibly other "scales" out there that people stay at one end or the other of or "slide up and down" a bit.
 
I talked to others about this thread today


and I was reminded of my sister


she picked this life with a huge amount of mental illness in order to give up control,


her last life she had almost total control of many other people


and wanted to break that bad habit,


so picked a life where she would have no control at all


and it is sure working
 
He doesn't have many options where we live right now for care. For example, if he got out on his own here, there are no nearby bus stops that can just take him anywhere. It's a long drive just to get to his counselors & doctors offices! He doesn't get enough social interaction either (aside from my mother and I.) He needs to live in a more populated area. Something's gotta give... My mother is the rock in my family and I can't picture life without her!
 
Ceridwen said:
As far as I have worked out to date there are two "spectrums" we are on and different people will be at different points on that spectrum.
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I believe this is an accurate illustration regarding any variable characteristics...and each point we currently hold along that spectrum is different from everyone else's point on that same spectrum...and our point is also subject to change from moment to moment as the parameters of that particular spectrum change. There is no finite aspect and everything is in constant motion and becomes relative and relevant to other spectrums at any and every moment. Keeps it interesting!
 
I know someone with a mental illness & have had a glimpse of his pl. I think his illness was trigerred from an incident this life similar to how he died that time.


I do wonder if you have a traumatic end whether it can make you more prone to anxiety or mind disorders?
 
I can speak from experience about the "anxieties". In a word, yes. I can trace some of mine back to traumatic ends, and I'm sure that others can, also.
 
Yes have thought that about myself & some of the people I know.


I wonder time on from two world wars if any of aren't affected?cover face
 
I have a severe case of obsessive/compulsive disorder,and the only way to feel better is with medications.


If this is a result of a genetic roulette,it would be very sad,I prefer to believe that is a lesson that I have to learn in this life.


I think now in the present day we are lucky,we have medications,mental institutes,in the past people suffered more if they had mental illnesses.
 
IMHO most or maybe all OCD is past life related. I had some mild OCD until I did some past life regressions and discovered the source. After that it greatly diminished.
 
I'll be honest. Depression, anxiety, and body dysmorphic disorder are the problems that have taken the biggest toll on me in this lifetime, and I currently see a therapist. I am very lucky that I have found a therapist who is open to ideas like reincarnation. So, I can tell her when I think that something may be related to a past life; and she accepts it and is often interested in my memories of other lives. She encourages me to explore them.


I am sure that many mental problems come from traumatic past life experiences. Or, on the other hand, we may be born into traumatic situations or with genetic defects that cause mental problems in current lives because of things we did in the past. So I believe it can happen for a variety of reasons.
 
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