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Why so many Nazi reincarnates?

obstacles said:
I'm also interested in whether people tend to reincarnate in the same countries or general areas...and I'm also interested in when people suddenly break that pattern.


It'd be interesting if we could get worldwide statistics on this sort of thing and figure out where most people claiming Nazi past lives are located...and same goes for other groups. I wonder what kinds of trends would pop up. But that would obviously be very, very difficult.
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Of the ones I know personally, birth locations in current life:


USA: 3


UK:2


Australia:1


Poland:2


Germany:1
 
I was german in my past life (the last one) but I was NOT a soldier. I was a scientific. I wasn't a bad person either.


My memories are very clear and when I was younger I was always scared, I did not want to have more dreams about it.


War was not a part of my role, I just wanted to do my job. But I was under Hitler's commands because he was the chancellor and I was working for the government of the time.


I am really impressed to read about the ones who remember being a solider or a SS leader. I can understand the deep trauma they load. Because back in time I remember my own death at mexican's independence.
 
There are some really interesting reflections coming through in this thread.


There's just a few things I thought about.


People on reincarnation forums may not be an accurate representation of the population. Why does a person consciously seek out a forum like this?


I'm thinking that the statistics could be skewed a bit, people coming here could have done it as a result of seeing films, and from getting all sorts of other information about important historical events that makes them think of a past life as a nazi (or other major historical happeinings). Because it triggers something in them and they start to wonder why, eventually leading to consider the possibility of reincarnation.


But the emphasizis on certain times and certain groups of people during those times in history classes, movies etc can make a person that was a friend, wife of a nazi think they were a nazi. So it will also pick up more of these people.


I'm in no way saying everyone looks up a reincarnation forum for those reasons, but it could be a a factor that leads to a bias.


Surely I believe there are people claiming to be nazi, either because they are directly lying to get attention, or they have misinterpreted their memories, misindentification or any other reason.


But I can also easily see why a reincarnation forum could pick up people with real genuine memories of a past life as a nazi.


As have been mentioned before, there could be all sorts of other factors as well. WW2 was a traumatic time for many many people, it is relatively recent etc etc.
 
Seline, you are bringing up a lot of good points. I think it also depends on a lot of factors, how many memories one has, how much of it is verified by research, your initial reactions to a topic you had as a kid, games you played, instinctively resonating and knowing things from the time period, and a general feeling that the person you were matters most and the rest is a "backdrop". In other words, if the life process of your PL, what he/she felt, what he/she went through is your primary focus, and the people closest (family, relationships) seem to take up the picture, there is a chance that it's more solid.


I'm sure it's possible to confuse things, esp. early on, in general my feeling is the backdrop does not matter as much as my past life process. Same lessons can be learned in Russia or Germany or wherever... And if you were in a time period, the stuff keeps coming back and it's not a one day thing. It's a knowingness, and it's not possible to shake it off or think it away. It's no matter what anyone says, whether they believe you or not. If you were there, what you know is what you know. It's with you, as experience. You might know much more than you'll ever get to read about. Certain things are not in books. You know stuff, places, on a feeling level, energetic level.
 
I agree with Demi, there are a lot of factors to consider, especially if you have a lot of confirmed facts about yourself from a past life.


I doubt anyone would watch a WWII movie and say to themselves, "I really wish I was a reincarnated Nazi." That's just not going to happen to a regular person unless they really had a life during that time. For those of us who lived as Nazis (and this is an incorrect all-encompassing term for the sake of making things simpler) back then, it usually goes something like, "I can't watch the end of this movie where the Germans lose and I don't know why. I am having a panic attack and am feeling depressed about this and I just want to go cry. What the heck is happening to me? I'm not supposed to feel this way about the Germans losing!" Not, "Man, the Nazis looked sooo cool, I wish I had lived as one of them during that time!"


Things didn't go well for us and the end was really incredibly hard and traumatizing for a lot of us. That is not something to be taken lightly or something to "wish" upon yourself. When people say that they feel emotionally connected to that period and the Germans in particular, I trust the emotions they have having. They usually figure it out themselves what their role was in the Third Reich, be it civilian, Nazi, or Wehrmacht. There are many of us who wouldn't even have been technically considered a "Nazi."
 
ZeonChar, those are valid points and a good thing to go by. Feelings can vary depending what one went through, but comparing with others who were in the same time period I found very useful and quite fascinating too.


Now, one thing that does puzzle me is why so many reincarnated Nazis claim to have been Auschwitz staff. Consider the numbers:


17 million Wehrmacht soldiers


3 million Waffen-SS soldiers


Approx. 70.000 of the Totenkopf division served in the KZ camp system. (Which was just one branch of Nazi camp system - there are many others, less known, such as POW camps run by Wehrmacht under Geneva convention/the OFLAG, STALAG/, penitentiary work camps, youth camps, Eastern worker camps, etc. A good introduction is in the book "Forest of The Gods", excerpts available online.)


7000+ SS served at Auschwitz- Birkenau during the existence of the camp.


Of those, only 10% or around 700 are known names, the other records were destroyed at the end of the war, before camp liberation, and has been a desire of Nazi hunters ever since.


There are different Auschwitz staff lists circulating the internet, which count about 200-250 names of SS officers. That counts for about 4% of total Auschwitz SS staff.


That being said, I wonder why every other dead Nazi claims to be on the 4 % list?


I even had somebody asking me why I am not on the list, so I must not have been there... (I have quite a bit verification of things from that camp I've not known in any other way, and yet I am still doubting it because of the very statistics of it.)


The largest part of the war my past life spent in an utterly obscure sub-camp to a penal institution for convicts, which were then transformed to a camp and production facility for Ostarbeiter (Eastern workers). The best verification was to meet someone who was in a similar place, a similar rank and position in their PL, and get to verify the really obscure stuff. Nevertheless, I was transferred to an actual KZ in 1944, and I seem to know a lot about Auschwitz, but as I say, I'm not gonna draw such a conclusion for above mentioned reasons.


PL Victims who believe they died in Auschwitz are a bit "better" off: As the biggest camp complex there were approx. 1 million victims.
 
My teenage daughter came home from school today talking about her Current Events Class. It seems those who have invaded the Ukraine are now forcing the Jewish to register. The mere thought causes cold chills up my back.


Those of you who have memories of past lives as Nazis do you think the horrors could be repeated? Do you think anything was learned by the Holocaust or are we doomed to a repeat of history?
 
Mama2HRB said:
My teenage daughter came home from school today talking about her Current Events Class. It seems those who have invaded the Ukraine are now forcing the Jewish to register. The mere thought causes cold chills up my back.
Those of you who have memories of past lives as Nazis do you think the horrors could be repeated? Do you think anything was learned by the Holocaust or are we doomed to a repeat of history?
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I don't think its allowed to talk about politics, Mama.
 
Owl said:
I don't think its allowed to talk about politics, Mama.
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I'm sorry, I don't mean for it to be a political conversation at all, I am asking the question from the soul level as in lessons the soul learned from a personal standpoint.


I don't think politics have to come into the discussion at all. Reading back at my question, however, I can see how one might think that. Let me rephrase my question.


For those of you who have memories of a past life as Nazis do you feel the Holocaust could happen again or do you feel that what your soul experienced and saw during that lifetime would stop it from happening again. In other words, are there enough souls reborn in the same area who experienced the bad that happened to somehow make them not to want to participate in it again?


I guess it is almost like trying to predict the future, however ...
 
Mama, life experience gained over consecutive life times makes one consider the best decisions and this ability to choose wisely improves over time, so I guess the answer to that would be that those who have learned are making use of that. Others need more time to learn. Everyone is different.
 
Mama2HRB said:
I'm sorry, I don't mean for it to be a political conversation at all...
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I think it's OK to mention things going on in the real world (if they're relevant of course). I think the concern is people getting into heated political debates about current events which would be off-topic and a distraction to other forum members. I wouldn't have a problem with your comment Mama.


As to your question, I see a lot of parallels in the current almost global vilification of Muslims. Fear and hatred of a group that is 'different' is nothing new in human nature. If that group has wealth influence that another powerful group wants, well, there's a problem. It's been going on since the dawn of time. Will it ever change? Maybe one day. Let's hope so.
 
It almost seems that as we live each life and learn lessons those lessons should make the world a better place to live with less violence and more people open to peace, love and harmony.


There is certainly more violence but at the same time I do see more people who are openly trying to make a difference. I wonder if these are actual increases or if we are just more aware of it because of social media.


Yeah, I really should stop trying to get answers to the unanswerable. cover facecoffeewine**
 
Shiftkitty said:
I know what you mean about the stink-eye from teachers. In high school I did a report on Nazi Germany civilian life. Because I wasn't railing against it, I must have been applauding it, right? My report was neutral and purely academic. At no point did I write that anything was morally 'good' or 'bad'. It simply 'was'. Not only did I have to argue with the teacher over his remarks, I took to the front of the class and challenged them to show any indication that I was for the Nazis simply because my report was not against them. I got the same reaction on history forum when I answered a question on slavery in the United States from a non-emotional, academic standpoint without foaming at the mouth. Because I was not weeping tears of blood for the slaves, I must think slavery is okay. Yeesh!
What would be interesting is to see the age ranges of "Dead Nazis". (I hope nobody finds that term offensive. I think it has a better sound to it than 'ex-Nazis' or 'former Nazis', which conjures up a whole different image!) Maybe we should do a poll with age ranges listed so that nobody has to reveal any specific information.


Another question for those who drew swastikas as children without knowing what they were; are you sure it was the Nazi swastika, and not the swastika of India or of the Native Americans? Or did the people who saw you doing it give a knee-jerk reaction, not knowing (or else forgetting) that the swastika is not unique to the Nazis?
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I too got criticized often for researching nazi's, family friends and teachers fearing some sort of indoctrination taking place; when in reality my belief system was far from anything fascist, nazi, or hate based.


Your mention of the various uses of swastikas is the most compelling argument for misinterpretation of past memories/lives I've seen. Thanks
 
calliestarr said:
Your mention of the various uses of swastikas is the most compelling argument for misinterpretation of past memories/lives I've seen. Thanks
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Several years ago an old building was being torn down in Tulare, CA. The old brick building next to it was left standing. When the first building was gone people were suddenly shocked by what was on the wall of the second building. It was a very large painted sign for "White King D" laundry detergent. Down in the corner was a Swastika! OMG People were freaked out. A local historian looked at it and said it was not a Nazi swastika. It was the old ancient good luck swastika. The sign dated from the early 1900s. The Nazi's stole it because it was a good luck symbol. The Nazi swastika is turned around, that's how you tell the difference. People in Tulare were demanding the sign be painted over. The local history people wanted to preserve it. The City Council compromised by ordering blinds installed over it. If someone wants to view it they have to make arrangements.


https://blackswaniw.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/white-king-soap-avertisement-note-the-swastika-images/
 
argonne1918 said:
Several years ago an old building was being torn down in Tulare, CA. The old brick building next to it was left standing. When the first building was gone people were suddenly shocked by what was on the wall of the second building. It was a very large painted sign for "White King D" laundry detergent. Down in the corner was a Swastika! OMG People were freaked out. A local historian looked at it and said it was not a Nazi swastika. It was the old ancient good luck swastika. The sign dated from the early 1900s. The Nazi's stole it because it was a good luck symbol. The Nazi swastika is turned around, that's how you tell the difference. People in Tulare were demanding the sign be painted over. The local history people wanted to preserve it. The City Council compromised by ordering blinds installed over it. If someone wants to view it they have to make arrangements.
https://blackswaniw.wordpress.com/2008/02/11/white-king-soap-avertisement-note-the-swastika-images/
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I hadn't heard this story, but I've known about the swastikas other uses for some time. I did find some in the town I grew up in, always curious as to why they were present, assuming of course it was remnants of Nazi Germany, I later came to find out they predated the war, and too, were related to good fortune.


http://www.ci.glendale.ca.us/lampposts.aspx
 
I've never noticed a large number of Nazi past life stories here. There are some but they seem to be proportionate and just a few among many that discuss other eras, sides, and places.


There may be people who make it up for attention, who are delusional, or who are trying to overcompensate because they're lacking something in their own lives. At the same time, I believe that many are telling the truth. If we assume that past lives exist, then it's only logical that many people would remember living in that time period and some would have been Nazis. There are factors that can make memories and claims seem more credible to me, no matter what that past life was (though especially when it's something controversial), and if those factors are there, why dismiss it?


I don't understand what's so impossible about it, even if I understand that it can be something difficult to accept.


To respond to the original question, Owl mentions some good factors. I would also add the way someone who remembers a Nazi past life might feel. If someone says that they were a Medieval farmer in a past life, anyone around them who is at least open-minded about the possibility of past lives might ask them a few questions and then let it go. If someone says that they were a Nazi, that will make others surprised and confused, at best, or wondering if their friend has some sort of hidden problem, at worst. It makes sense that people who feel like they'd have more trouble than usual telling others about their past lives would find online forums a good way to share experiences and to have someone to talk to. This might simply make people who remember Nazi past lives more visible. It's more or less the same with people who had traumatic past lives and seem to discuss that a lot on online forums, when it doesn't mean that they're in the majority.


I wasn't a Nazi in a past life (as far as I know), so I'm not talking out of experience here.
 
Nazi or not, in reality could be any war out there it's all the same... very similar experiences even by today's war veterans. There is just too much hype about Nazi stuff as most were regular soldiers... some were sociopaths but there are sociopaths everywhere too, as if third reichers have the patent on anything... Some will say the Holocaust, not even that is unique, except it was done in an "efficient" way and not by knife like Jasenovac, UPA, Gulag, Agent Orange etc.. etc... To cite someone who was both a prisoner in Auschwitz and the Gulag, he said, "the Nazis were like child's play compared to the Commies." So in case anyone is faking it because they want to appear "bad" as someone was concerned about, time to switch allegiance.


Yeah "evil empire", join the crowd of evil empires in world history. There are people with war experiences which happened in the nazi era and its just like war in any other time and place... and which war is ever just and morally correct, tell me. I'm not justifying the insanity of the leaders of Third Reich, but even in the "save the world" wars, so many civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan.
 
Mama2HRB said:
There is certainly more violence but at the same time I do see more people who are openly trying to make a difference...
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Society in general is actually less violent than it once was, although it might not seem like it. There are still a lot of horrible things that happen in the world every day, mainly to the weakest of course, the poor, the old, women, children, animals... But, yes, I think there is more information around now and more people actively trying to do something about it. Maybe we are evolving (very slowly)?

Demi said:
...but even in the "save the world" wars, so many civilians killed in Iraq, Afghanistan...
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World leaders have always pretended that their wars were in a 'good cause', but they're always about increasing the power and prestige of the leaders and the wealth of their backers, regardless of what lies they tell the public. Those who are attacked will do their best to defend themselves, even if the odds are vastly against them. Civilians suffer, especially women and children. So it ever was. Hopefully one day we will see this behaviour for the madness that it is and cut it out? Perhaps if more people could remember their past lives we could evolve a bit faster?
 
From the Resistance


Hello fellow WWII reincarnates.


I speaks as one who comes from what was one of the most violent anti-Nazi resistance groups.


That PL has not yet come to me with the same clarity as other PL's I could relate to but I know I was an orphaned German Jew who somehow slipped the Nazis' noose.


My own mother of today had a PL regression done, revealing she had reincarnated immediately after dying while being carved up on an operating table in Dachau. Her birthdate being in the spring of 1938 (just after the Anschluss) gave me a traceable date that I could map out some of the details, including when I was orphaned.


I had the name "Biberach" come up in that series and when I looked it up, I found it in the deep south of the Baden-Wurttemburg part of Germany. During a very bad bout with influenza some years ago, it seemed I was hallucinating something about that past as I sweated it out: I could make out blue and white flags hanging along sides the swastika flags, suggesting they might have been flags of neighboring Bavaria.


Other fragmented dreams and visions included being in a place with 1930's cars being the traffic in its streets. A 3-headlight model that stood out turned out to be the Tatra 77 car which was built in Czechoslovakia from 1934 to 1938 and was "very favored" by Germans.


The pictures of that PL get even less clear after the Anschluss and after my family's eviction from our home by Hitler's authorities but it appears there were resistance factions already in place within Germany, including non-Jewish people who took enormous personal risks sheltering and moving displaced Jews. My original escape was by jumping out of a window while the Nazis were smashing down our front door. I don't know how else anybody could get past all that hate and violence and continue to survive.


Whatever secret networks that were in place within Nazi-occupied Europe must have allowed roaming almost everywhere "under the Nazi radar". I the final 3 years of that PL, I was part of what was probably the most violent anti Nazi resistance faction. The closest thing I could find to it from my historical research was the Belgian Resistance with its own matching documentations to visions I had: derailing trains, assassinating Nazis, and in uncommon times live-capturing a Nazi in uniform and on duty in one capacity or another. Those are the ones we tortured, interrogated, killed, and then disposed of the nude and mutilated body in a woodlot or river.


Meanwhile the Nazi armies had many reports of their troops "missing in action". I think we have the answer here. We conducted our forays in conjunction with the bombing raids and exploiting the confusion of the situation.


The final moments were in a building that was set ablaze. We were locked in and asphyxiated. The date was in 1944.


Curiously and interestingly, there are at least 8 other individuals in my community alone who appear to have been part of whatever my resistance cell was. We all reincarnated in various local French Catholic parishes in the same city from 1946 to 1966.
 
tanguerra said:
World leaders have always pretended that their wars were in a 'good cause', but they're always about increasing the power and prestige of the leaders and the wealth of their backers, regardless of what lies they tell the public.... Perhaps if more people could remember their past lives we could evolve a bit faster?
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Agree on that one.


Yes, rising awareness, of past lives and of current life is what is needed, then it is much harder for those who want to take advantage of people to do so.
 
The Greates Story Never Told


This goes especially if you had an incarnation of one kind or another in WWII:


I would highly recommend you all look up the video: "Adolf Hitler, The Greatest Story Never Told. The series runs about 4 hours.


There it is shown the collective chain of events that led to the outbreak of WWII and the terrible mess it left. It also brings a new clarity to the collective motives that brought an event that left collectively 60 million dead (and as many reincarnations to follow)


After seeing this, I come out with a new awareness that WWII was not so much an effort to purge some repressive regimes, but really a power struggle among several groups, all with questionable intentions.


That being said, I appeal to all world leaders to STOP having armed conflicts.
 
I was going to post a thread very simliar to this one, however i found this. I find it interesting that you dont hear much from British soldiers etc.
 
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Until last years, I dreamed about images. For example, I do not feel myself at this time. In my dream, I always saw in the background listening to the songs of the German 1930s. A room full of smoke, a red flag at the back. I've seen these dreams until the age of 12-13. In 2003, after watching "The Pianist", the stones fell into place. The flag that I saw was a flag of Nazi Germany I couldn't tell my parents at first. Years have passed and I'm 18 years old. I remember in my dream that I have an imprint in my hand. Written in 1939. I have blood on my hand and I'm picking this tag off and wake up. I've seen this dream dozens of times. Until that age, I had never seen a series of second-world war movies or film-documentaries. All I saw was a pianist. As far as I know, there was no such thing. I thought subconscious, but there was no such thing. Years have gone, I haven't had such dreams for a long time since I was 18. I went into a 20-day coma at the age of 22 because of my operation. the first thing I said after waking "Are we in 1939?" The doctors didn't understand it. The weird thing about it is that I told this in German. I don't know German except Rammstein songs. I do not know how I could say that the German? That's unknown. Then I called the people who work with reincarnation in Turkey. I found a person after a long search. We tried to reach something with hypnosis sessions, but it didn't work.
 
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EnterTheVoid said:
Until last years, I dreamed about images. For example, I do not feel myself at this time. Still is. In my dream, I always saw in the background listening to the songs of the German 1930s. A room full of smoke, a red flag at the back. I've seen these dreams until the age of 12-13. In 2003, after watching "The Pianist", the stones fell into place. The flag that I saw was a flag of Nazi Germany I couldn't tell my parents at first. Years have passed and I'm 18 years old. I remember in my dream that I have an imprint in my hand. Written by 1939. I have blood on my hand and I'm picking this tag off and wake up. I've seen this dream dozens of times. Until that age, I had never seen a series of second-world war movies or film-documentaries. All I saw was a pianist. As far as I know, there was no such thing. I thought subconscious, but there was no such thing. Years have gone, I haven't had such dreams for a long time since I was 18. I went into a 20-day coma at the age of 22 because of my operation. the first thing I said after waking "Are we in 1939?" The doctors didn't understand it. The weird thing about it is that I told this in German. I don't know German except Rammstein songs. I do not know how I could say that the German? That's unknown. Then I called the people who work with reincarnation in Turkey. I found a person after a long search. We tried to reach something with hypnosis sessions, but it didn't work.
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Wow waking up and thinking its 1939 and saying it in German, thats strong proof of reincarnation there
 
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Perhaps it's because many aren't aware who they were, the Germans are more inclined to go look for others like them (the I'm nit crazy cause I'm not the only one, to talk without being judged for having been on the "wrong" side etc etc) and why those on the allied side are less here, I have no clue, would love to see a few more

I was in a WWII museum today and while I was in a Dakota (took me a while before I got the strength to leave though) a man and his son showed up, I don't think he's aware of his past life (yet) but I could clearly see the American Paratrooper in him, when he stepped in the plane (we called it a ship back in WWII, clue 1), he walked like the plane was rolling, completely subconsiously (clue 2), he was confused about the missing seats (clue 3), when he was getting ready to leave I heard him softly go through the pre jump ritual, completely unaware he was doing it (clue 4) and if those aren't solid indicators, when he approached the door he did the classic pivot and grap (fellow troopers know exactly what I mean) and it was probably only my somewhat harsh sounding "red light" that got him back in the here and now because he looked at the lights, then to me and out the door, realizing that he would've had a painfull landing if he did follow his insticts
I only hope that if he becomes actively aware of the memories they won't all be the bad memories
 
Many allied Soldiers didn't went straight home, many stayed in Europe, some for over a year for 'occupational' duties in Germany and various other postings in Europe, much the same as was done after WWI

And much like WWI, many only shared the good stories because people didn't want to hear what really went on and what bothered them, this is unfortunately still true today and a big reason why PTSD exists, civvies want to hear about the cameradery, the fun barracks stories, not how your best friend got blown up, the heavy fire that kept you in your hole hugging the ground etc (this goes for both sides)
Only among each other do we sometimes talk about it

I don't hate all Germans, I was friends with a German who was a young guy that actually saved my current Dutch family's lives during the hungerwinter putting himself at risk of getting shot, those that were there because they had to can't be blamed
The strategist I most respect is Erwin Rommel, great mind and a man of honor
It's those gung ho nazi that I hate, the SS for example (I had Dutch family in this lifetime that voluntarily served in the SS, most were killed on the eastern front, most still MIA, others probably fled if they survived the war because most of my family was military and on the allied side who take betrayal of family and country in cases like this very seriously

How I feel towards those of you that are reincarnated? Honestly, most of the time the same as I did with Matthias when we met (he passed away a few years ago) and how I threat fellow vets of any war, I don't really judge who you were rather who you are now, only a few exeptions apply
BUT when I'm dealing with my WWII life I avoid you guys like the plaque because I have my moments where I hate and curse every single German, that's most likely my WWII PTSD
Remember, I was a medic so I've seen all the worse injuries many can't even inmagine, not even most combat troops
PTSD on top of PTSD on top of more PTSD is a bad mix

Most people still consider all Germans as bad guys during the war so yes I understand why so many come here and it's a good thing as here you guys can connect and talk, much the same as everyone regardless of who they were

Sorry that this got a little long
 
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Yes CanSol, you're right that people only want to hear the good things. But good things weren't what we were there for, so we do need to talk about all the rest to someone. I don't have anyone in my life who understands what I went through, so this forum is helpful. I could do with finding more Germans, though. If there are so many around, as they say, where are they?

That's interesting about the Allies coming back. I'm afraid I know next to nothing about the Allied side. None of my present family had any war stories to tell. Funny I should know only about my family's enemies.
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Kinder just reinforces that theres no point to war, reincarnation dont care about sides
 
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