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With the number of experiences being shared about reincarnation, I am most interested to hear about cases that ...are so detailed that they present some usefulness in filling out written histories with a different point of view or even seem to solve historical points that have evaded historians.

Most persons I have been able to speak to would seem to have some dreams that are indicative of reincarnation. But say that they are not enough memorable features or details to be able to be more certain about the person or their situation.

Then some have enough to know about the person and their situation, perhaps with some areas that are still unknown to them.

While, the last situation, is someone who knows the person, their situation and knows enough to present a different point of view, to events that they witnessed.. and are even able to solve historical points that have evaded historians.

Perhaps reincarnation is not capable of proof, with the same degree of throughness that scientifice methods apply, unfortunately because of the subjectivity of what persons are prepared to believe. But certainly research is capable of the same critical analysis, that is applied to the social sciences and to academic histories.

Any opinions or assistance would be very appreciated. Thanks.
 
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HI Cynewulf

I really like your premise. It's a fascinating way to review case studies. I imagine some cases would still be hard to prove but I too am interested in what others have to say. This is a very busy week for me - classes start Monday and I am back pedaling. If I come up with anything - I'll certainly post it for you.
 
Hi Cynewulf,

While it would be very interesting to see some "mysteries" of the past solved by connecting data from a reincarnated person's memories to the events in question, I wonder if many historians would give enough credence to the person with the memories to go through with the needed work to get the solving done.

I wonder also if memories can solve mysteries to the extent that "accepted" history could be changed, since physical evidence would be lacking, so it would be only a theory, unless the person who remembered could actually point to new physical evidence.

Even _when_ physical evidence is offered in a new light, even when totally new things are found, reincarnation not being the cause, it's extremely hard to get people to change their minds. If they're used to thinking of it one way, no matter how much evidence is there, they will often cling to only seeming
(flawed or incomplete) evidence that shows them what they want to see, the "old" way of viewing it. There are prejudices not just from race to race historically speaking but also about species other than human, and about how land moves, etc. While most evidence must be assumed incomplete, still I have seen people actually remove parts of reports of experiences so the evidence comes out the way they like it (and not just in groups of so-called "skeptical" people).

I think a lot of "mysteries" in history and science are really about the researchers being very smart but thinking too hard, and thinking right past themselves. They forget all about human nature and common sense. Common sense or a little compassion, a little empathy, solve many puzzles because in fact they are not puzzles. Humans and other animals do things for reasons that _do_ make sense. It sometimes isn't hard to fathom the sense of it if you aren't overworking the question so much.

That having been said, there are plenty of things left unknown in terms of physical evidence. There just isn't enough surviving documentation, or what have you. If someone reincarnated and was able to find the documentation, then people would have to take them seriously (once the documentation were verified) regardless of the reincarnation aspect of it. Although, of course, many people would deny anything they didn't want to hear, even with verified documentation or other evidence. I probably have done that a lot. I know I have seen it a frustrating amount of times on television when supposed "experts" are supposed to answer to clairvoyance or reincarnation. It's extremely painful to hear some of their "explanations".
 
Quite achievable.

I've no doubt though it would be hard, it could be done.
If any case has basis, it will stand up to some degree of critical scrutiny.

Most likely there will be parts of a case, that seem to conflict with what has been written in recorded history. Those areas could be noted in the reincarnation account. But according to some accounts I've heard about, historians subsequently found information which seemed to validate that which was said.. ie: the Cathar cases.

I would completely understand and respect, in someone's account a description that said... but on this I am uncertain, because so much time has passed since the experience that I can not remember. Or I did not pay so much attention to that point, in my experience, so I can not say with certainty.

For someone researching their own experiences, perhaps they should note the limitations of what they can draw from their experiences and leave certain conclusions open to interpretation. While perhaps they should consider, arguing for and against certain evidence to test its usefulness. If it stands such scrutiny, surely it will lead to better, more informed and balanced conclusions, much more quickly.

Even the conclusions that are reached, such as in Science, are based upon the premise that a better view, may come along once more evidence arrives. But to reach a conclusion without making out a case or the basis for it, is unsound, whatever discipline a person approaches the question from.

Thank you for both your views. Very much appreciated.
 
I would be very interested to hear it.

Hi... I would be very interested to hear your account.

It would also be very useful to understand how the experience came to you and the limitations of what you were able to discern from that experience.

Historians are people, their bias and prejudices come through with their emphasis on historical events. Some are mentioned, but for no particular reason others are not. Or more importantly the part of particular persons who influenced events are not mentioned at all.
 
I've read cases where small details were different from historical accounts. When that happens, historians and others jump on the discrepancies and use them to prove that the past-life memory wasn't genuine. If and when it is proven that the *historical account* was wrong--which apparently often happens (as it happened in the Bridey Murphy case)--the critics don't seem to stand up and publicly admit they were wrong. They kind of slink away and try to forget it ever happened, so to speak. It's like trying to win an argument with your significant other--if you ever do prove your point, don't expect them to make a big deal about the fact that you were right ;-).

That being said, the second issue is discerning what percentage of a past-life account is made up of real memories, and what percentage is imagination, cryptoamnesia, etc. I don't think it's an either/or situation, I think it's percentages--some accounts are 90% real memories and 10% embellishment through imagination, and some accounts are the reverse, 10% real memories and 90% embellishment through imagination. This complicates matters from a researcher's point of view (although therapists will be quick to tell you it doesn't matter in terms of the effectiveness of past-life therapy).

There are really only a few detailed, very credible, very strong cases which could yield the kind of extensive information you're talking about. Most cases seem to be bits and snatches of scenes, but there may be tidbits of such information in them as well.

I have had two past-life regressions, one with Roger Woolger in a workshop, as a volunteer, and one a paid session for therapeutic purposes. I don't have any way to verify that they were real memories.

But if they were real, then I saw things that are not talked about in history books. The first was the top of a hill used in ancient times for religious rituals. *After* the regression, I ran across a few photographs of ancient sites which looked a little similar, especially the doorways I saw leading underground at the foot of the hill and some distance from it. But the altars themselves were unlike anything I've seen. What you see in photographs of historical sites is huge, rough, shapeless stones--about what you'd expect primitive people to make. But what I saw clearly in my regression session, was smooth, polished granite, rectangular (not rounded), two uprights and a cross piece, light-colored stone (I am still seeing it in my mind's eye as I write this), about waist level, which would look something like the symbol for "pi". The pieces were maybe 6 inches wide or less, and maybe a few feet long. There were, I think, three of these situated around the periphery of the flattened hill-top, which was maybe 30 feet high. I would do some kind of ritual from the inside facing out, placing something on the altar--no animal sacrifice or anything like that. Small objects?--I didn't see it clearly. I didn't see anything more, except those three underground entrances side-by-side down off the hill a-ways, with paths leading to them.

I understood it to be Celtic, but it might not have been.

In the second, later session I was in an ancient advanced civilization--I have no idea which one or what the name was. Nobody would believe that one as credible, and I won't go into what I saw because I wouldn't want to take a chance that it could be re-invented--it wasn't very pleasant.

So, I think indeed you could learn about history from these accounts, if you could 1) discern the genuine memories from the imaginative fill-ins, and 2) if you took them seriously.

However, that doesn't mean anyone would then take *you* seriously, which is the problem, after all, isn't it? If no-one will take *you* seriously, then what use is it?

For example, in my documentary I videotaped an interview with a man (Jeff Keene) on his own gravesite. I would say that effectively puts the lie to death, as a final event, as well as anything could. But nobody pays much attention because, I think, nobody *really, really* believes it, not even for a second. So I sell a handful of copies and as said nobody pays much attention.

Look at what Carol's done--she's proven quite conclusively that not only are children all across the country trying to tell their parents about their previous lifetimes, but that many of these children are actually former family members reincarnated back into the family. By rights this information should have revolutionized society--but society as a whole doesn't consider, for a half-a-half-a second, that it could be real. So it doesn't penetrate--at least not yet...
 
Silent maority, may believe in reincarnation.

Nice to meet you.

Certainly Jeff Keenes story is a beauty.
I came across his website earlier this year. Went to the library and found the General he was, mentioned in the history books.
His story raised my awareness.

Your account is very interesting, it is useful that I know its limitations from what you have written. Could be Celtic, but may not be. Now I'm quite prepared when looking at that culture or a similar culture, to consider the construction of the altar as you have mentioned it, as well as the detail of the ritual before it.

I wasn't really thinking of the wider public, with reincarnation and critical analysis, but a smaller subset. Those who have become aware that it is a personal possibility. It would be immensely useful for them, at an uncertain time to know that others have been before them and established some sound ground upon which to proceed in their own personal search.

Earlier this year I read online the story of Steen Rivers, a Danish priest who spoke about his belief in reincarnation to his parishioners. He was removed from his clerical office. But challenged the decision through the Danish courts. He was unable to obtain the remedy he sought, to be reinstalled. As a link to the story, a reference to a Swiss Catholic research institute, said that it was estimated in a study that most Catholic women, two thirds believed in reincarnation. That suggests that a silent majority believe in reincarnation - to what exactly and to what extent, goodness knows.

So I have no doubt that more persons than you may be aware of have come across the work of Jeff Keene, your work and that of others. Or will in the fullness of time. By the way, let me add my enouragement. Well done, it couldn't have been easy. There may be a culture of misunderstanding, indifference and fear of being known, but that can only be changed for the better. Critical analysis, may help the situation.
 
In June 2004 I was filmed by a crew from the new SCI FI Channel program Proof Positive (will air in Oct.2004) .They filmed my wife and I here in Connecticut and then interviewed some of the people I had worked with during my career on the Fire Department. We then traveled to Maryland for some more filming at Antietam Battlefield Park. This will be the third time my tale of reincarnation has been shown on television, the first two being the documentary Beyond Death shown on A&E and In Another Life (SSAKE’s documentary). When I wrote in my book Someone Else’s Yesterday that, “every word is true” I meant it and stand behind it. (By the way, I have not made one dime of profit from any of these ventures. Actually they have cost me many thousands of dollars. So, the people that say others come up with fantastic stories of reincarnation just so they make money should try it for themselves and see how fast they go broke.)

I have had many of what people might call coincidences, synchronicities and even some epiphanies. I threw the word coincidence out a long time ago. Coincidence is just a catch-all word that people like to use. It makes them feel safe. They don’t have to go out of their comfort zone and actually think or make decisions based on the information before them, information that may conflict with what they have been taught growing up or certain religious beliefs.

"Objective" evidence for my story consists of the following;

Photo comparisons of pictures from the library of Congress & National Archives showing the facial architecture of Jeffrey J. Keene and J. B. Gordon to be the same.

Linguistic analysis (Linguistics expert from Berkley) showing (from a small sample) that writing styles of both Gordon and Keene match in many areas (7).

Hospital records showing that Jeffrey Keene did in fact visit the Emergency Room at Norwalk Hospital on Sept. 9, 1977 (his thirtieth birthday) suffering pain that mimicked the facial wound received at Antietam by Gen. John B. Gordon when he was 30 years of age.

Polygraph test: A score of 99.6 was received by Jeffrey Keene while answering question pertaining to story of being the reincarnation of Confederate General John B. Gordon.

Physician examination of the six places on Keene's body where there are scars and marking which correlate to wounds received by John B. Gordon during the Civil war.


Now, after more than ten years of research, I have one of the strongest reincarnation cases ever presented to the public. Its strength lies in the objective evidence amassed that, when viewed together with the anecdotal evidence, it is hard to refute. In fact, a reasonable person would appear unreasonable in denying the facts placed before them. Note that I use the word “evidence” and not the word “proof”. For some people, no matter what the evidence shows, there can be no proof. Now that I have retired, I have the time to travel and lecture to people about reincarnation with the hope that they too can be reunited with themselves, the realization of who and what they truly are.

Best, Jeff Keene
www.confederateyankee.net
 
Hi Jeff, Nice to meet you.

I'm quite sure in the past, persons who discussed reincarnation and were persecuted, would find tremendous joy, in seeing that we have the freedom to discuss it online.

Curiosity has always propelled me forwards. My first degree was in the Biological Sciences, then I studied the Law, to gain an understanding of the issues of justice, that I was encountering. While I have a great interest in history, to understand not only about myself, but the development of cultures and ideas. The personal dramas are also entertaining.

My studies have enabled me to examine my own instance of dreams in childhood that speak of past lives. But at the end of the day, I realise they are only tools. The Question rests on faith, and I've chosen to believe, - which wasn't actually that hard a decision to make... it just meant expanding my world view, not changing it for another.

I needed only to look at your photos. But I was not aware that you, had also undergone a polygraph test as well as linguistic analysis. I would be very, very interested to hear about the process of linguistic analyis. It surprises me not, that you have the courage to challenge established beliefs through critical analysis, balanced arguments.. basically pushing back the boundaries of what is the known and accepted world view... which speaks volumes to me. Very much a pleasure to converse with you.

You most likely would have given thought to a lot of issues.
What moral obligation do you think a person, who is aware of their past lives and could contribute to an understanding of historical events, is under to mention it publically. Either anonymously, with a writing name or under their actual name. Considering that if they remain silent, what they know could be lost to the pursuit of knowledge and understanding.

Many thanks.
 
Dear Cynewulf,

The analysis was done at the request of Dr. Walter Semkiw who used it in his book Return of the Revolutionaries. Below is the portion of my book which addresses the analysis:


Dr. Semkiw was intrigued with my writing style when he
read my manuscript. He noticed what he thought were similarities
between Gordon’s style and my own.

In Not Yet, Jeff includes documents that show similarities between
his writing style and Gordon’s. In his later years, General Gordon
wrote a book called Reminiscences of the Civil War, which provides material for such analysis. Let us compare two passages, one fromGordon’s book, describing the efforts of his men to put out a fire in Wrightsville, Pennsylvania, and one from Keene regarding his fire department’s response to an emergency incident. My observationis that the two documents seem to be written in the same ‘voice.’ Linguistic analysis may allow us to better define common traits between the passages.

A linguist from the University of California, Berkley did an
evaluation that uncovered common traits in six areas. What
follows are the results of that evaluation:

Writing Sample One: General John B. Gordon (from Reminiscences
of the Civil War)
With great energy my men labored to save the bridge. I called on
the citizens of Wrightsville for buckets and pails, but none were to
be found. There was no lack of buckets and pails a little while later, when the town was on fire ... My men labored as earnestly andbravely to save the town as they did to save the bridge. In theabsence of fire-engines or other appliances, the only chance to
arrest the progress of the flames was to form my men around the
burning district, with the flank resting on the river’s edge, and pass rapidly from hand to hand the pails of water. Thus, and thus only, was the advancing, raging fire met, and at a late hour of the night checked and conquered.

Writing Sample Two: Assistant Chief Jeffrey Keene (from a letter
to Fire Chief)

With my radio restored, man power and apparatus were brought in and put under the guidance of Acting Lieutenant Christopher
Ackley. While setting up a plan of action, Lieutenant Ackley
displayed good common sense, knowledge, training and a deep
concern for the safety of firefighters under his command. A large
amount of gas entered the structure by way of a open window.
Though we tried to remove all possible sources of ignition, we were able to remove all but two. The owner informed us that the house contained an oil-fired furnace and a hot water heater. There was no way to shut them off from the inside or outside. Using metering devices, a positive pressure fan and opening and closing windows, the hazard was removed.

Findings of Linguistic Analysis:
Close in average number of words per sentence: Gordon-21, Keene-18

Use of compound sentences: Gordon—“the only chance to arrest the progress of flames was to form my men around the burning district, with the flank resting on the river’s edge, and pass rapidly from hand to hand the pails of water.”

Keene—“While setting up a plan of action, Lieutenant Ackley displayed good common sense, knowledge, training and a deep concern for the safety of firefighters under his command.”

Use of preposed clauses in complex sentences: Gordon—“In the absence of fire engines,” Keene—“While setting up a plan of action.”

Use of existential-there sentence with negation: Gordon—“There was no lack of buckets.” Keene—“There was no way to shut them off.”

Adverbial clauses at beginning of sentence: Gordon—“With great energy,” “In the absence of fire-engines.” Keene—“With my radio
restored.”

Most of text is in active voice except at the end. In both passages, paragraphs end in passive voice, as if the success came about without the intervention of those involved.

Excitement is achieved by altering expected word order,
separating two parts of the verb. Gordon—“was the advancing, raging fire met, and at a late hour of the night checked and conquered.” Keene—“Using metering devices, ... the hazard was removed.”


I had never given any thought to the possibility of a correlation
between Gordon’s writing style and my own. Dr. Semkiw
told me that the linguist who did the report stated, “Similarities
in writing style definitely did exist, though it is not proof that
the authors are the same.” It would be impossible for anyone to compare two handwriting samples and say with absolute certainty that the authors were one and the same person. It would appear though, that the results of the linguistic analysis of these two small samplings gives some credence to Dr. Semkiw’s hypothesis of the same “voice.” (From Someone Else’s Yesterday by Jeffrey J. Keene © 2003)


The polygraph test was done at the request of the producer of the Proof Positive show (SCI FI Channel airs in Oct.) and lasted three hours. Test score was 99.6, which shows that I was being honest in my answers and there was no deception involved.

As far as a moral obligation to speak out on the subject of reincarnation, I feel that if one does it anonymously they might as well not bother speaking at all. The choice of speaking out at all remains with the individual. I said more than a decade ago that we would be seeing more and more cases like mine in the future. This has come to pass and many are speaking out about their stories. Some examples are given in Dr. Semkiw’s book. Let us hope it does some good in moving the world into a better understand of who we are, what we are and the role we play here on Earth.

Best, Jeff
 
I read the linguistic analysis with interest. The polygraph test, well that reminded me of all those movies... : ) Must have been a new and interesting experience for you. I would have been kidding around, taking a bit of time to settle down.

My own experiences, would only be able to be tested on those two grounds, plus another. Apparently a letter still exists from a very considerable period ago - The Roman Republic, I found it published in a book. How on Earth its survived through the Dark Ages is beyond me. While others apparently exist in the Public Record Office in England, from the Medieval Period. For what good it would do, I would be happy to undergo such tests. Apparently there also is an effigy and a tomb of the man I was in a Cathedral in England, albeit defaced.

All I really have then are the dreams I had in childhood, which were very, very detailed and tell fairly much a complete story. The strength or weakness of my experiences rest on the story I'm able to tell and its potential to resolve a few historical issues.. Whereas, the traditional arguments are that anyone can do research and make the details up, which is fair enough. Against that my account has details for two archaeological sites, one in Rome that has already been found, but as far as I am aware not properly excavated - it would be easy. The other in Tunisia, North Africa has not been found - would present more problems.

What I am absolutely certain from the childhood dreams (with some other, later experiences, which quite humourously, keep popping up), that I was a Roman Cavalry Officer, who fulfilled other offices of State, then was reborn in a much later time in Medieval England, became a priest, joined the King's service and became a Bishop. The rest is a matter of details, of which there are plenty. The identity of the Roman Cavalry Officer was a bit of a dead give away. As as child I should have worked it out much earlier, but when finally another two Officers talked about his brother the "Commander" and the soldiers then called out the "Commanders" name, the penny sort of dropped. I know who this man is "beyond a reasonable doubt", based on that moment.

I had to work much harder on the identity of the Bishop, which evaded me for years. But I knew there was a connection between the two men so stuck to the task. What I was very certain of...(just a few details) he was born in Yorkshire / North of England during the 1200's. He became a Bishop in the King's service. He first met the woman who loved him, when he was a vicar with his own church and she a ward of the church (she had auburn hair). He was accused when he was Bishop of a very serious offence, which went to trial and he was eventually found innocent. It had the affect of disrupting his relationship with that woman. Most of my memories focussed on his relationship with that lady, because as a child that was what I found most interesting in the dreams and have remembered. I know who this man was, "on the balance of probabilities" - there only seems to be one man who fits this description and it seems to explain the circumstances encountered in the life of the Roman Cavalry Officer.

With the story of the Roman Cavalry Officer, I've thought about the moral obligation to say anything. A bit of peace and quiet is a good thing, but when I thought about it a sense of duty seemed to influence me. What concerned me most, was that another young person, somewhere out there will most certainly be headed down the same track, I wouldn't want to leave them without some sort of assistance. Nor was would I be too happy to leave the struggles to others, because that is not fair to ask of an individual or a handful of persons.

On the other hand, would anything I say be noticed.
Given it thought I've written it down, exactly as I remember it.
A friend in Australia, broke his leg and asked to read the manuscript while he was laid up... I emailed it to him. He was very enthusiastic after he read it. Seemed very keen to rush of to the bookshop to look at more books.. Wonder how he got on with a broken leg : P

So I've written it more for the purpose of entertainment and to possibly raise awareness - for those who are taking their first steps, rather than any hope of changing what persons believe. Quite content to leave them be.

"Let us hope it does some good in moving the world into a better understand of who we are, what we are and the role we play here on Earth".
- I know full well, this is a genuine motive. It is something others have had in the past as well. I'm quite sure there are others and you are in very good company.

BEst Cynewulf.
 
Cynewulf,

Interesting story you have, reminds me of my friend Ian. I think you would enjoy a trip to his website. He keeps telling me that I was a Lord Gordon killed in battle many, many years ago. Check out his site at http://www.docbaillie.demon.co.uk/ He is a bright fellow and a great guy.
Best, Jeff
 
"I remember it well. There was once a land of Cavaliers and their Ladies, of plantations, cotton and polite manners; a whole civilization... Gone with the Wind."

Thank you for the link to the website.
I am especially charmed by your friends, description of the romantic aspects of his story. The meeting with his future wife.

There he is on the left photo...
Alexander Baillie kell 1828 to 1912.

Out of interest, upon what basis did he say that you were General Gordon ? Did you know or suspect before he told you ?

I've met three persons I know I shared experiences with when I was a Roman Cavalry Officer.. but apart from recognising me on first meeting, have nothing to indicate actual memories.

Whereas on the other hand, bringing the discussion towards something of my experiences that is closer to what you know.
When I came back from Australia to New Zealand, in Dec 2001, I met a young woman who came from Connecticut. Of all things staying with my family. This was mentioned in a tarot card reading, by a lady called Poppy (blonde hair, very nice woman) who gave me a reading at the Blue Cafe in Newtown, Sydney.
She said I would meet a foreign woman, and there would be a beautiful relationship. I was polite, she seemed very interested in the romantic aspects of the reading. I was seeking advice about a job which I was sick of : ) but you listen to whats provided and be polite. It was like lightning striking... two weeks later, I actually met her and there was chemistry between us, just like that. Once we knew each other better, I said it was like we are very good friends. She said that she had dreams of me, but I had a moustache and a pinstriped suit. Questioning her further, she said I had a house in New York, late 1800's. She used to visit me as a patient, at my doctor's surgery. I have no actual memories of this, other than just a knowing that I was a Doctor, had a moustache, quite keen on vests and had a pocket watch.

There is reason to suspect this Doctor, MAY have been upon the Northern side in that conflict known as the American Civil War, IF he was in his 40's or 50's in the above description, based on the extent of that war. Quite a bit of speculation. Finding him seems to me, like finding a needle in a haystack. Especially since I live in New Zealand.

I'm very interested to know, why did you go to war ?
(as General John B Gordon). Matthew Broderick in the movie "Glory" ventured an opinion what they were fighting for.
I've also seen the movie, "Gettysburg" where I think they called Martin Sheen as General Lee... The Old Man. :) No doubt a term of affection. When the going got desperately difficult, and the Roman formations were about to collapse, in my experience the Roman Cavalry Officer appealed to the best values of the Roman soldiers to keeping on fighting. He spoke not of their state or the city, much to my surprise as a child, but of their wives, children and kinsmen and urged them to fight on for them. They were spent but that lifted them again. Their strong beliefs, shared values, were the difference in the battle. I am fascinated to know what the General believed in, because I've seen from this dream of the battle, that it makes all the difference in the world and who stands afterwards, can be decided on the slenderest of margins.

Many thanks.
 
Cynewulf


I know that quote and the author.



Margaret Munnerlyn Mitchell
Birth: Nov. 8, 1900
Atlanta
Georgia, USA
Death: Aug. 16, 1949
Writer, author of Gone with the Wind. She began working as a
journalist, using the name of Peggy Mitchell for the Atlanta Journal
as a feature writer. That same year, Mitchell married Berrien
Kinnard Upshaw. The marriage lasted only a few months, but the
couple was not officially divorced until 1924. In 1925, Mitchell
married John Marsh. Ms. Mitchell shocked Atlanta society by
keeping her own name, “Margaret Mitchell” for professional purposes.
(In private life, she was known as Peggy Marsh.) It took her
ten years to write Gone with The Wind, then titled Tomorrow Is
Another Day. She also changed the name of the heroine, a beautiful and manipulative Southern belle, from her original choice of Pansy to the more evocative Scarlett. In addition to its staggering sales, the novel won both the Pulitzer Prize and the National Book Award in 1937. Just one month after the release of the book, the film rights were sold to David O. Selznick for the then highest paid fee ever—$50,000. Mitchell wanted no part in the movie, and had a clause written into her contract absolving her from any more work on the project. The film won eight Academy Awards, including best picture for 1939, arguably one of the greatest years for film. Apart from a lively correspondence, she personally answered a good deal of her millions of fan letters. Mitchell never wrote again.

On August 16, 1949, Margaret Mitchell was struck by a
taxicab on Atlanta’s Peachtree Street while on her way to a movie
with her husband. She died five days later at the age of 49. As of
1998, Gone with the Wind was the best-selling book of all time, after the Bible, with a total of 23 million copies sold worldwide. In 1996, figures indicated that almost 200 million people had seen the Selznick film version of Gone with the Wind; a gala re-release of are mastered version in 1998 undoubtedly pushed those numbers even higher.

Burial:Oakland Cemetery
Atlanta (Fulton County), Georgia, USA71

One of the photos showed a coquettish Mitchell somewhere
in her early 20s. Her face was posed in a three-quarter view with
her eyes casting a glance to one side. I made a copy of the photo
and bio to take to Massachusetts. Upon arrival at Sturbridge,
Dr. Semkiw and I checked into the Public House Historic Inn.
We were just in time to attend a meeting being held in one of the
large conference rooms in the Inn. As we sat listening to the
speaker, I asked Dr. Semkiw to point out Diane Seaman. In my
hand at the time was the picture of Margaret Mitchell I had
copied from the Internet. Dianne was pointed out to me, but she
sat with her back towards us, so I could not see her face. A
moment later she turned to talk to another person at her table.
I compared the photo to the person sitting across the room.
Dianne’s face was in three-quarter view, eyes looking to one
side, just as in the photo. I leaned towards Dr. Semkiw and
pointed to the photo saying, “That’s her, even the same pose.”
When the meeting was over, Dr. Semkiw and I walked around
the room speaking with some of the other people attending the
conference. We finally met up with Dianne Seaman. Dr.
Semkiw introduced me to her. I said, “We have something in
common.” She gave me a quizzical look. I handed her a copy of
the page from Find-a-Grave adding “Real estate in Oakland
Cemetery.” Dr. Semkiw explained a little about my past life as
General John B. Gordon. Diane had to confess that at the
mention of the words “Oakland Cemetery” she got goosebumps.
She, too, had experienced first-hand what it is like to stand next
to one’s own grave. After spending some time together that
weekend, Dianne and I developed a friendship and traded
addresses. After Dr. Semkiw’s lecture and listening to me speak,
Dianne decided it was time for her to stand up in front of the
assembled group and tell her story of the Margaret Mitchell past
life. I enjoyed watching and listening to her story; we even had
a little fun with the fact that General Gordon and Ms. Mitchell
were “sleeping together.” It is nice to have a fellow traveler
walking the same road. One can become lonely moving along the
highway of self-discovery. Now I had gained another travel
companion. In the coming months, Dianne and I would lend
support to each other. I e-mailed Dianne copies of rejections of
my book that I had received from publishers. She wrote back “If
I may pass on some lessons I have learned from rejections… [1]
don’t take it personally and [2] do not get attached to the fruits
of your labors. You have my permission to remind me of these
when I am in need of it!!” I found this to be sage advice. One
time I came across a quote from an article Margaret Mitchell had
written when she was a writer for the Atlanta Journal. Her profile
of General Gordon appeared in the Journal’s magazine section of
November 29,1925 it read in part:
General John Brown Gordon, the “Bayard of the Confederacy,”
whose statue now guards the entrance to the State Capitol and
after whom Gordon Street in Atlanta was named, was a handsome man, pleasant of smile and possessed of great dignity and bearing. He was magnetic, drawing all hearts and eyes to him and when he spoke, all others were silent to listen. A stranger coming into his presence could not but realize that he stood before a great man.

Though Mitchell was only a toddler when General Gordon
died, she wrote some very kind words about him. I e-mailed a
belated thank you to Dianne and received in return an e-mail
stating “You’re Welcome.” Dianne had not been aware of the
Gordon article and wrote “… this in part reinforces why, whenever
I think of you, I place you in Georgia and have to force
myself to think of you in Connecticut.… That far north in
Yankee territory!!” Dianne is also in the process of writing her
story. (Someone Else's Yesterday by Jeffrey J. Keene (c) 2003)
 
Cynewulf,


My friend Ian was not speaking of Gen. John B. Gordon of the American Civil War but that he thought that I had been a Lord Gordon killed in battle in 1645:

July 2 1645

Battle of Alford, Marquis of Montrose defeated Lieutenant-General Baillie; Lord Gordon killed.

(note the name Baillie above)


As for why Gen. John B. Gordon went to war you can find answers to that in his book on-line at;

http://www.the-firm-1.netfirms.com/hgh_a5.htm
 
That is so very cool.

That is such a very cool story. Thanks for sharing that. The link you've given will be a very good story ! I look forward to reading it. I will also look into the story with Lord Gordon. Many of the family names in the North of England are already familiar to me over the years.

Best Cynewulf.
 
who needs more than necessary proof when you have even the strongest evidence ??

I have read all the most interesting facts Cynewulf and Star3 are discussing, but I come to the next conclusion... who the heck needs of a proof when you yourself is a vivid proof. I mean no one else in the world can have the memories who belong only to you. I mean, who the hell has those sweet memories of infancy lived only by yourself and belonging only to you. The same way is with your previous life. I guess no one else but yourself lived it. So those memories remain only to you and no one else, don´t they?, . I cannot fool around stating useless and savvy and childlish arguments and performing no more than necessary tests there abouts only to prove to the world and have them all convinced that I was that certain person who in a sense I am still that same person. I know for granted my present voice is greatly similar to the one I had in my former life including my tone voice and my very, very reactions. But, once more, proofs/tests only can help as simple and mere additions which testify the person I can say I am still, or more properly said ---if you like it that way, I used to be at the time.
Kisses. :mad:
 
Nice to meet you.

I wish there was a way to "prove or disprove" reincarnation. But failing that have attached myself to the next best thing, to subject my experiences and that of others, that I am told of, to critical analysis.
 
Looking into Reality

Glad to Know You

This constitutes the basis of spirituality. If a crytical analysis is required to subject others and yourself to prove the matter of reincarnation you are getting out of the way. Besides, Reincarnation does not require faith, it is just much more than faith and goes beyond faith because reincarnation comprises it and is tangible becoming thus a fact. When you have something subjected to strenuous analysis you are putting faith aside and your research stops from being spiritual. The matter of reincarnation is a matter of life and living, innerself; this way, you can even relive your past life. So as to remember and live your present and past life, you do not need to be a good swimmer as long as you can swim. Some of us boast how to live, but only a few know how to do it. One thing is for sure, we all know how to live a good life. And fortunely, some of us and not quite a few can say we all have lived before. Reincarnation is not such a contest who someone can say “I am a good swimmer” or “he is a good swimmer” just as you said there is a spiritual end. There is not such a thing as a good swimmer, only swimmers or… good swimmers. It is a lot like saying “I live my life better than you do”. This is nonsense to me and doing so stops being spiritual. “Sensationalism” is one thing and “spiritual activity” is another. Sansationalism does necessarily have a bit of sophism in order to make it sansational and attractive. Messages are meant to stop people and think who are willing to do it, no matter how striking or non-striking they may be.There is always a spiritual need in our lives, remember. Therefore, there is a spiritual end to our lives which we all live for and persue. That is O.k. I´m with you.

Best Regards. :cool
 
I have recently discovered that some scholars and church officials doubt the "story" of Saint Bertram: that he was a Mercian prince who travelled to Ireland, where he found a wife, and that she was killed by wolves, and that Bertram, mad with grief, became a hermit and monk for the rest of his life. Sources claim that this was simply a made up fable of the time, that Bertram was not royalty, and never left Mercia. I beg to differ. I have come to believe that I was Bertram's wife. Unfortunately the lack of reliable historical information and the lack of credence for PL memories makes any attempt to rectify the situation futile...
 
Hi Llyndyn, Nice to meet you.

England and Ireland before the Norman Conquest. A very difficult period to research, aside from the Anglo Saxon Chronicle, the other records are fairly much Royal Charters and Monastic records. Very little can be said with certainly, unfortunately a "Dark Age". But there is just a little more about Mercia, and the Southern Kingdoms, than Northumbria, to the North of the Danelaw.

Found this on-line with regards to Ilam, where St Bertram's tomb is said to be.

Ilam has been a place of pilgrimage since the days of St Bertram, a Saxon saint and hermit who lived here, and today there are more 'pilgrims' (in the form of tourists) than ever.

The saint was a Saxon prince of Mercia who travelled to Ireland to marry an Irish princess. On their way back to Mercia she had a child and they rested in the forest here while Bertram went off to seek food. When he returned he discovered that wolves had killed both his wife and child and, broken-hearted, he lived as a hermit around here for the rest of his life.

The saint's tomb lies in the church, a trim little building sitting apart from the rest of the village. The church was originally within the village - but the village was moved by Jesse Watts Russell to improve the view from the hall he built here in the 1820s.

If you have dreams, memories of that time period, then you will be familiar with the spiritual beliefs of the Old English.. a very different sort of people to who we are today.

I would be very interested to hear of your experiences.

I remember many of my dreams from childhood about the Old English. It was most strongly impressed upon me, how fearful they were of the dark. A good half hour before it got dark, work for the day, would cease in the fields and they would be inside behind locked doors. At night the wolves and bears would come out, that seems to be what they were afraid of - a well founded fear ! But they were also afraid of the supernatural elements in the world that surrounded them.

I think the Anglo Saxon Chronicle speaks persons journeying in winter along the road from London to York. While between two hospitals, in broad daylight they were attacked and killed by packs of hungry wolves.

Best Cynewulf.
 
Stars3

Wow! Today I posted regarding your story, and being so new to this forum, hadn't yet realized you were already in here! I saw Proof Positive, which truly sent chills down my spine, the pictures ALONE...:eek: !! Many of my strongest past-life memories are of the civil-war era... I feel strangely drawn to it,since my earliest memories, and for some reason the Battle of Shiloh. Unlike you, I have yet to discover the best way to explore these memories, but hopefully, w/ the discovery of this forum, that will change. I wonder ,do you believe this discovery of yours has benefited you in spiritual ways, are you better able to understand things about yourself that were before unaccesible? I suppose I need to read your book, so I can better understand your story. Gosh, it's been two years since I've read a good book...( I have a two-year-old son, whom I had dreamed about several years before his birth,& described to several friends & family members... I believe he is somehow related to that life) since before my son was born, he's a Full-Time job in himself!!
Take care, & thank you for the inspiration that your sharing your story has brought me!!
Kstornado11
 
Hi kstornado11,

You wrote;

"I wonder ,do you believe this discovery of yours has benefited you in spiritual ways, are you better able to understand things about yourself that were before unaccesible? I suppose I need to read your book, so I can better understand your story. Gosh, it's been two years since I've read a good book...( I have a two-year-old son, whom I had dreamed about several years before his birth,"

The answer to your first question is yes. Its nice when you get the program handed to you. Gives you a bit to think about. I too saw my second daughter in a dream years before she was born. I hope you find the time to read my book and that it give you some insights/help with your own journey.

Best, Jeff Keene
 
This thread brings several questions to mind:


I've read that there may have been several advanced civilizations on earth, maybe as far back as 20,000 years.


Has anyone had a regression that was very far in the past?


This might be an interesting way to verify past civilizations.


Was anyone able to tell if the poles had reversed, or if they were in an ice age, or if they saw extinct animals?


This is indeed interesting!
 
Hi Daniel :)


I think civilisations is a big word to use about the people living 20.000 years ago :tongue: I think we should stick to calling them tribes, or perhaps bands if anything ;) .


There are members, who have shared memories of lives far in the past. You may find this thread interesting: Life in the palaeolithic


:)
 
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