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Great Tartaria

Angie Brown

Angie Brown

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In a very old Encyclopedia Brittanica, there is a reference to Tartaria being a country. Also, many maps are shown on youtube. It was vast, an empire, and not so very long ago yet I never read of anyone with a pl connected to it?
 
KenJ said:
I've wondered who would claim being Genghis Khan here on the forum, quite a war-like existence.
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Haahaha yes. Then again, I suspect that he was legend, a figure on which to pin conquests rather than a real figure. I find it hard to believe that a very poor, illiterate gypsy kid done so much. It would have taken great wealth and resources, military training and advisors, etc. The sort of set up that takes generations to get in place. My thoughts on GK, anyway. Lol.

Nonetheless, there seem to be old maps showing that Tartaria grew to encompass a number of different peoples and countries, and not each area was at war and trying to expand territory at the same time as other areas. My father only mentioned it once "It got too big and areas kept warring to expand territories, so it had to be broken up", and that was back in the 1960's.
Official info now is that it was a large unmapped area. However, old maps show that the area it covered encompassed countries which were indeed well mapped at the time. It could be that just as Scots, Welsh and the N Irish usually say they are those rather than saying they are from the UK, so it may have been in Tartaria. Curious about this part of world history.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
fireflydancing said:
Is Turkmenistan in Tartaria? Then you can count me in.
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Looking at some maps said to be of Great Tartaria, it isn't. Sorry - or maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing. If Tartaria were at one time that huge, more or less an empire, well I can't think of any empire which was built without much cruelty and blood, and which didn't either fall apart or be taken apart. This is where it would be interesting if anyone had a pl connected with it.
 
Angie Brown said:
Haahaha yes. Then again, I suspect that he was legend, a figure on which to pin conquests rather than a real figure. I find it hard to believe that a very poor, illiterate gypsy kid done so much. It would have taken great wealth and resources, military training and advisors, etc. The sort of set up that takes generations to get in place. My thoughts on GK, anyway. Lol.
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An interesting theory, but even most legends have some truth to them. I do not remember much about Genghis Khan myself, but I have seen the way a young, relatively untrained soldier can quickly become a renowned general with less effort and resources than would be expected. Never underestimate the right person arriving at just the right moment.
 
Cryscat said:
Found this

https://www.stolenhistory.org/threa...in-history-it-was-bigger-than-russia-once.40/
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Thank you, Cryscat. I have only had time to glance at the first few lines and shall read more later as there are some things I have not read before.
I do believe it was definitely multi ethnic. So many buildings with insignias from each of the Abrahamic faiths together on the same buildings, none more important than the other. As if each were equally incorporated and accepted.
I did read that during the time of Tartaria, Russia was only about the same size as Moscow is now.
Hopefully, one day someone will post something of a pl memory.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
For more than 35 years I've been convinced that I've lived a lot of Mongolian lives. It has been a strong (!) influence in my current family life (this life). I think that this cycle of lives is the only one that still makes my heart sing. It's like remembering your own youth from this life, it was great but you know you can't go back. I think I will never go 'back' as a tourist to Mongolia because that would be a waste of time. You need life after life to be able to catch the essence of living there. Winter after winter, spring after spring.
I've always had a longing for the life in the yurt, the emptiness of the landscape, felt, the silence and so much more of the Mongolian life, like throat singing and the closeness of family life. It's difficult to pinpoint those lives in time or place. It was also there where I learned the shaman things I still know and able to use. I am a traveler soul, unlike others who prefer to stay long in the same areas. I have lived in the tundras of Siberia, Gobi desert, the Himalaya and as I mentioned before, in Turkmenistan as well (male with Mongolian features, a bloody killer, warrior on a horse).
 
fireflydancing said:
For more than 35 years I've been convinced that I've lived a lot of Mongolian lives. It has been a strong (!) influence in my current family life (this life). I think that this cycle of lives is the only one that still makes my heart sing. It's like remembering your own youth from this life, it was great but you know you can't go back. I think I will never go 'back' as a tourist to Mongolia because that would be a waste of time. You need life after life to be able to catch the essence of living there. Winter after winter, spring after spring.
I've always had a longing for the life in the yurt, the emptiness of the landscape, felt, the silence and so much more of the Mongolian life, like throat singing and the closeness of family life. It's difficult to pinpoint those lives in time or place. It was also there where I learned the shaman things I still know and able to use. I am a traveler soul, unlike others who prefer to stay long in the same areas. I have lived in the tundras of Siberia, Gobi desert, the Himalaya and as I mentioned before, in Turkmenistan as well (male with Mongolian features, a bloody killer, warrior on a horse).
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I can imagine a bit, having watched a Ray Meer's episode on TV. A really hard life but naturally, really close family ties emanate from the lifestyle. Even today a lack of reliance on things we in the West wouldn't know how to do without. No interference from other peoples, and as you say plenty of space.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
Totoro said:
I'll channel Keanu in bill & Ted's and say whoaaaa

When I read it spelled tartary, that triggered some memories. I've heard that name before.. That's definitely old world.. The 19th century comes to mind.

Both my past lives were probably familiar with it. One in Pakistan in the 1800s and then China in the early 20th century.. Being of Manchu decent.
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Let us know what Bill & Ted say :-) Lol.
I'm glad one person so far finds the word Tartary/Tartaria familiar. I really suspect it must be like remembering a life in the UK. Most people would remember being a citizen of whichever country first, rather than being a UK citizen. I think this is the reason there never seems to be mention of Tartary, although some might remember being referred to as a Tartar - particularly if they had a life in politics or the military there, or were international traders and travelled beyond its boarders.
This thread might open up a memory or two (pleasant memories, I hope).

Best wishes,

Angie
 
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