Emotionally powerful but inaccurate ww2 dreams

[Adruana]

I have a question about some dreams I used to have. I’ve always been highly interested and emotionally involved in world war 2. But I’m sure this is not unique given the scale of it. Just by the amount of movies produced every year there is so much interest in it and there’s always a new angle or viewpoint.

But I can remember as a little girl (8yo) we were shown a documentary in school about concentration camps during ww2. And something felt so strange to me, like something with it corresponded to this feeling of heaviness that I’ve sometimes felt. I also saw myself for a brief moment as an adult woman.
Since I was only 8 at the time this impression was really unique to me. It was so strange. And ever since I’ve been very interested in it.

I’ve also had a lot of dreams related to the war. In one there were some sort of crematoriums or underground stuff that scared me so much, like I literally woke up frozen in fear. I’ve never been so scared of anything in my present life. In another dream there were something about my family being tricked, like this was a huge feeling. And then I felt hate towards Hitler. Again, I woke up with a more powerful and personal feeling than in anything in my real life.

However, these dreams may have historically correct elements, but not all of them. Actually none of them are correct on all levels, like in one there were parts of a video game I played at the time!

So if the dreams are so strong, but also unreliable, what can I make of them?
But I remember one dream were I was walking somewhere towards a camp or something and a bunch of kids were singing and I started to sing with them. Later I read that singing was sometimes done to keep the spirits up.

 

[SeekerOfKnowledge]

A warm welcome to you, Adruana!

You might have mixed up elements from your current life/things you had done the day before with actual memories from a past life. I don't see why this shouldn't be possible. It is such a thing with credibility, of course, and doesn't help to believe... Anyway, in dreams of the current life it can happen, too, that we mix up childhood memories with more recent activities or movies, games or other stuff we experienced the day before. So it is definitely possible that certain elements of your dreams are actual PL memories.

 

[SeaAndSky]

Hi Adruana,

I agree with Seeker. Dreams are still dreams. In my normal dreams true elements from my past mix together with other elements all the time, some from the present and some purely fanciful. It will probably be difficult to sort out actual PL memories in this context, especially as you have significant exposure to WWII scenarios and scenes via your present life. These types of images and scenes may also be added to the mix in your dreams. Around here, it is common to look for strong emotional content as a sign of the reality of a particular "memory" or scenario. However, even this can be deceptive--especially in dreams, where even ordinary objects and scenarios from your current life can serve as symbols and be charged with emotional content. Also, some folks just seem to "know" which elements are true memories and which are not--this is a gift I do not share.

In any case, I think you would be well-advised to start a dream journal where you record the most striking WWII elements and scenarios from past and present dreams, especially those that carry a strong emotional content. After a while, you may begin to see some patterns binding some or all of these elements together and adding up to reveal some striking truths about a past life in that era. And, then again, perhaps not--the uniting theme may be difficult to grasp without going through a PL regression, etc. However, either way I believe you will find it to be a very interesting exercise.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Just for the record, I think that you are indeed experiencing past life memories in the mix of dream elements you report. I also think that you will eventually be able to sort them out. BTW--it seems to me that there are some very intriguing and often frightening PL experiences underlying these WWII dreams. I would be interested to find out where they lead.

 

[Owl]

Greetings Adruana,

I can relate to your experience because I also mix past life elements with fantastical/symbolic elements in my dreams. I used to think it was an issue with past life memories in particular but no, a few months ago I did the exercise of trying to remember a particular experience from 15 years ago and I added anachronical elements to it (a structure that hadn't been built until a few years later) and I replaced the features of people that I couldn't remember with someone else they reminded me of. I think it's just how some people's mind work. You may be heavier on symbolism or may be better suited for "informational" types of memories, which are useful for validations.
As others have suggested, write down your dreams, everyday and every dream, not just possible past life memories, even if you just dream of drinking juice while watching a movie. The more you write them, the more you'll remember them. Also, write down how the dream makes you feel. I notice that when I have a dream with past life elements there's a dense, tunnel-like claustrophobic feeling which is not correlated to the content of the dream. Write as well as many details as you remember, so you can separate later, fact from fantasy. One of my earliest dreams with past life elements included the pool in Auschwitz (which I didn't know it existed at the time) and food coupons being used (which I didn't know were a thing either) but also "penguins made of smoke that I could see from my window" (symbolism?) And I went back and forth between past and present and randomly included some people from school in that dream. On a first analysis, take what could be something relevant and dismiss what is fantastic or doesn't make sense. Then revisit it years later to see if the fantastic makes sense. I had a dream about islands in Munich that I thought was garbage until 10 years later I found out there were actually river islands.

My second advice is: focus on things that don't go away. For almost two decades, every time I would read a book or watch a documentary on concentration camps or even think about them, I would picture a wooden platform used during selections where the SS "selector" would stand. It wasn't a permanent artifact but it had to be set and then put away. I could never find a picture of anything like that, it's not portrayed in documentaries, it's not really even mentioned. I was in one of those moments where I just dismissed past lives altogether and part of it was my mind insisting on the existence of this imaginary wooden platform for so many years. I was explaining it to somebody else when I said the word "podium" instead of wooden platform. Then I looked up in Google books something along the lines of: podium, Auschwitz, selections and two results popped up mentioning such artifact, one of them being someone's recollections. I'm still not 100% convinced of its existence but maybe I'm just not that crazy either. So if something doesn't go away, pay attention to it.

The same goes for feelings. If you always hated something or liked something, most likely it means something. Especially if the feeling does not go away or keeps coming back. I was born with absolute hate and disgust for a particular country. I wanted nothing to do with it, their people or their language. These feelings were completely out of nowhere as this is a harmless country and my grandparents vacationed there every year. As I became more involved with past lives and met more nationals of that place my feelings significantly decreased, although until somewhat recently I still had dreams where I hear the language and get annoyed.

Also, pay attention to things that for whatever reason "do not feel right". I remember being no more than 7 years old, reading in a book that mentioned the capitals of Germany were Berlin and Bonn (administrative capital) and thinking "this is wrong, the real capital is only Berlin!". Even now, when learning german I'm aware of words that I don't know, but there are also some words that not only I don't know but they also feel odd. When I look them up, those words end up always being northern regionalisms, or maybe used in most of Germany except for the south.

Summarizing: write down your dreams and your emotions, every day and with every dream. Pay attention to the things you feel and visualize when you read books or think about the topic. Pay attention to recurrent things you like/dislike and what feels wrong or odd.

 

[fireflydancing]

Hi Adruana, welcome to the forum!

(...) especially those that carry a strong emotional content.

This! Past life memories often go with emotions. Those emotions carry over from one life to the other until you find a way or method to release that energy, in order to find peace in this life.
I don't find it weird that some elements in your dreams are inaccurate. Well, not accurate to the logical mind. It is highly possible that there still is a kind of emotional logic behind the anomalies.
Personally, my personality can't handle too many atrocities/cruelty/pain, etc. I am too sensitive for that. In this life and apparently in former lives as well. I became aware that during flash-backs and past life meditations, my vision shifts toward drawings and paintings of a scene. Also weird, because I am able to go back in time, look around in a 3D environment, move around, and suddenly I find myself in a kind of comic book, or a highly symbolic space. Yep, those were cruel moments in my history of past lives, like being killed for example.
You already received some good advice from the people above and I don't know anything to add to that list at the moment.

 

[Adruana]

I’m very touched by all the advice and information you all have provided! Thank you! I will respond to each one more thoroughly in a bit.

 

[baro-san]

I can remember as a little girl (8yo) we were shown a documentary in school about concentration camps during ww2.

That's why we have to be careful what we expose children and people in general to. Some could be psychologically scarred for life.

There is a much higher probability that you haven't been incarnated during ww2, and that everything you experienced was caused by your unfortunate and avoidable childhood trauma.

 

[baro-san]

This explanation might be of some interest:

The following is intuited to be one of the questions on the School of Existence’s exit exam.

Q: Using godlike intuition, how would YOU use language and the concepts of ‘simple dreaming’, ‘lucid dreaming’, and/or the cave allegory to express what it means ‘To Be (a) unconsciously Dreaming, (b) Consciously Lucid Dreaming, and (c) Consciously Awake’?


A: It is a matter of your focus and primary-assumptions.

There is one and the same "you" that experiences all the states you mentioned, and other states of consciousness, according to the framework it adopts, as defined by a set of primary assumptions, to which individual secondary conditioning is added.

There is a set of primary assumptions that defines the physical-reality framework. There is a different set that defines the sleep state. This means things like what you are, what you can do, what memories you have access to, what frameworks you have access to, what senses you're using, focus range, ...

When awake, "you" have adopted the physical-reality primary-assumptions set, and "you" focus into the physical-reality framework.

When falling asleep, "you" firstly switch to the sleep-state primary-assumptions set, then "you" refocus into the inner-reality. Due to their individual conditioning, most people don't recall anything from this sleep phase, but it is possible to maintain awareness (of your physical-reality aspect of your personality) as this happens, observe / participate in the experience, and recall it at wake-up. I currently do it practically every night to some degree.

When waking up, "you" firstly switch to the physical-reality primary-assumptions set, then "you" refocus into the physical-reality framework. In the transitory phase, when "you" switched to the physical-reality primary-assumptions set, but are still focused into the inner-reality, "you" translate your perceptions and operate into what "you" recall as dreams, which are distortions of your inner experiences.

Lucid dreaming is when, during the dream phase "you" switch back to the sleep-state primary-assumptions set, while maintaining the awareness of your physical-reality aspect of your personality.

All these states aren't clear-cut, and to some degree, function of your level of abilities, "you" can widen or narrow your focus, and "you" can reshape your set of assumptions.

"You" are always conscious. When awake, "you" just don't recall part of your experience due to your unnecessary conditioning, a hypnotic state.

 

[SeaAndSky]

That's why we have to be careful what we expose children and people in general to. Some could be psychologically scarred for life.

Hi Barosan,

Her statement above was as follows:

"But I can remember as a little girl (8yo) we were shown a documentary in school about concentration camps during ww2. And something felt so strange to me, like something with it corresponded to this feeling of heaviness that I’ve sometimes felt. I also saw myself for a brief moment as an adult woman.
Since I was only 8 at the time this impression was really unique to me. It was so strange. And ever since I’ve been very interested in it."

I do not understand how you got from the statement above, which does not even mention anything pertaining to "childhood trauma" related to the concentration camp documentary, to the conclusion that:

"There is a much higher probability that you haven't been incarnated during ww2, and that everything you experienced was caused by your unfortunate and avoidable childhood trauma."

First, as previously noted, Adruana does not even say anything related to or reflecting some deep childhood trauma related to seeing the documentary. Second, even if it was traumatic, that does not mean that it could not have stirred and awoken repressed traumatic memories related to the subject matter. Actually, I think this is rather common. I think it would even be expected in this context. Third, on what basis does any of the foregoing make it possible to conclude that there is a: "much higher probability that you haven't been incarnated during ww2."?

Of course, there may be a possibility, but I think Adruana knew that already, as did others evaluating her statements. However, I fail to see how the conclusion you state can be supported based on what Adruana has said to this point.

Cordially,
SeaAndSky

 

[baro-san]

Hi Barosan,
... However, I fail to see how the conclusion you state can be supported based on what Adruana has said to this point.

Cordially,
SeaAndSky

Showing an 8 year old child a concentration camp documentary was the traumatic event.

An 8 year old child isn't emotionally and psychologically mature to have that kind of experience. Even older people can get affected by watching cruelty, and be traumatized.

 

[Owl]

Showing an 8 year old child a concentration camp documentary was the traumatic event.

An 8 year old child isn't emotionally and psychologically mature to have that kind of experience. Even older people can get affected by watching cruelty, and be traumatized.

When I was 3 or 4 I had nightmares because of Beetlejuice. Was it a traumatizing experience? Maybe. Do I think I had a past life as some sort of zombie? No

When I was older, around 7, I saw a picture on Tv of a woman who was burned and missing limbs. Was it a traumatizing experience at the time? Yes. Do I think it's past life related? Up to this day I couldn't find a correlation.

There's a stretch between being traumatized by something and thinking it's a past life memory. Assuming that the OP is unable to make that distinction is not giving her enough credit.

 

[baro-san]

...

There's a stretch between being traumatized by something and thinking it's a past life memory. Assuming that the OP is unable to make that distinction is not giving her enough credit.

Don't make it about my "not giving her enough credit" ...

I politely expressed my opinion about what she described. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

People believe all kind of things. Look at the divided opinions regarding all the pressing problems of the day: most are 50/50, which is proof of randomness.

Again, don't make it about my "not giving her enough credit". I consider it insulting, although I hope it wasn't your intention.

 

[Adruana]

A warm welcome to you, Adruana!

You might have mixed up elements from your current life/things you had done the day before with actual memories from a past life. I don't see why this shouldn't be possible. It is such a thing with credibility, of course, and doesn't help to believe... Anyway, in dreams of the current life it can happen, too, that we mix up childhood memories with more recent activities or movies, games or other stuff we experienced the day before. So it is definitely possible that certain elements of your dreams are actual PL memories.

This makes sense to me as I can’t really (at least extremely rarely) dream about actual events in my present life in a factual, chronological way. There will be snippets, but mostly symbolic. Even if it’s dreaming about something that happened. So I’ve thought of this. Maybe it’s more common to have past life dreams like that.. Thanks

 

[fireflydancing]

I highly encourage offering a lot of possibilities and probable explanations for a question, especially in the fields of reincarnation and parapsychology. I think I don't have to explain that this keeps us grounded and well-informed before we make our own conclusions.

Regarding childhood traumas after seeing scenes in a movie, I can only add one of myself. I was deeply traumatized after seeing the death of Atahualpa* (or his brother, not sure about it, in any case, it was some high-ranked Inca nobleman). I remember he was sentenced to be burned alive. Only after a forced Christianization, this ordeal changed into being strangled to death instead. I remember that I expected him to save his life through this forced Christianization but the Spanish reasoning was that a Christian should not be burned at the stake, but that he would be put to death anyway. This intense betrayal traumatized me throughout my life.
I've never had any reason to believe that I ever ended up in flames, no memories of being a royal Inca, or a Spanish conquistador. As a child, we've seen so much on television that we shouldn't have seen at a young age. And almost all of this we just forget after a short while. So why do some scenes stand out and even traumatize us? In my opinion, there must be a link to a core trauma, being touched on the surface.
Only recently, in my mid-fifties, I had a series of coherent (and fragmented as well) memories of life as a young Maya girl growing up in a rainforest. She experienced intense betrayal by her own family members that gave her away to some unknown people who took her to a ceremonial place and ended up sacrificed. Not to Spanish conquistadores. She ended her life within her own culture and religion of sacrifice. But the Spaniards were on their way in that time period. They hadn't reached the place where 'I' lived (yet) but within my visions of that past, my present 'I' relived the extreme fear that rolled as waves through the forests, the panic of not knowing how and when this evil would reach us and I even saw the symbolic image of metal helmets raising up from the soil in a field of corn plants. (a strong symbolism within Mayan culture).
So I assume that when I saw this movie at a young age (can't remember exactly, but I was too young to put everything into perspective) my subconscious put together several ingredients: the clash between original culture versus the Spanish conquistadores, betrayal, death, and fear.
After about fifty years, I still remember the shock I got from this movie, although the details are not a match to my own past life. At least, what I know at the moment.

* Youtube saved my sanity
I found the scene right now, just by a simple Youtube search. Rewatching it, I find it so shallow and unrealistic. Hardly to imagine that these two minutes caused me trauma for years and years.

@Adruana , I hope you are not upset by all these reactions that might drift away from your WWII memories. We jumped in on you wondering why past life memories are sometimes not accurate, or mixed with other elements. You clearly see that more people can relate to this problem. And we give some examples from our own experience. As a moderator, I think these responses fit within the context but if it bothers you, I can make a separate topic about the question of why past life memories are often polluted with junk memories or with not easy to recognize associations and clean your original topic from our contributions.

 

[Adruana]

Hi Adruana,

I agree with Seeker. Dreams are still dreams. In my normal dreams true elements from my past mix together with other elements all the time, some from the present and some purely fanciful. It will probably be difficult to sort out actual PL memories in this context, especially as you have significant exposure to WWII scenarios and scenes via your present life. These types of images and scenes may also be added to the mix in your dreams. Around here, it is common to look for strong emotional content as a sign of the reality of a particular "memory" or scenario. However, even this can be deceptive--especially in dreams, where even ordinary objects and scenarios from your current life can serve as symbols and be charged with emotional content. Also, some folks just seem to "know" which elements are true memories and which are not--this is a gift I do not share.

In any case, I think you would be well-advised to start a dream journal where you record the most striking WWII elements and scenarios from past and present dreams, especially those that carry a strong emotional content. After a while, you may begin to see some patterns binding some or all of these elements together and adding up to reveal some striking truths about a past life in that era. And, then again, perhaps not--the uniting theme may be difficult to grasp without going through a PL regression, etc. However, either way I believe you will find it to be a very interesting exercise.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Just for the record, I think that you are indeed experiencing past life memories in the mix of dream elements you report. I also think that you will eventually be able to sort them out. BTW--it seems to me that there are some very intriguing and often frightening PL experiences underlying these WWII dreams. I would be interested to find out where they lead.

Thank you! When thinking about regular dreams, of things that has happened in this life, it seems the dreams have no intention of retelling in detail what has already happened, I mean we know what happened. But instead trying to make sense and deal with the emotions of what happened by using symbols etc. So it makes sense that this can happen with past life as well. So far I think maybe trying to find the historical correct information will be challenging using the dreams, but it still something in there. The dream journal is something I will try. Maybe I can find some patterns or order in it. I think i had a life during ww2, too, it’s just so much emotions around it

 

[Adruana]

Greetings Adruana,

I can relate to your experience because I also mix past life elements with fantastical/symbolic elements in my dreams. I used to think it was an issue with past life memories in particular but no, a few months ago I did the exercise of trying to remember a particular experience from 15 years ago and I added anachronical elements to it (a structure that hadn't been built until a few years later) and I replaced the features of people that I couldn't remember with someone else they reminded me of. I think it's just how some people's mind work. You may be heavier on symbolism or may be better suited for "informational" types of memories, which are useful for validations.
As others have suggested, write down your dreams, everyday and every dream, not just possible past life memories, even if you just dream of drinking juice while watching a movie. The more you write them, the more you'll remember them. Also, write down how the dream makes you feel. I notice that when I have a dream with past life elements there's a dense, tunnel-like claustrophobic feeling which is not correlated to the content of the dream. Write as well as many details as you remember, so you can separate later, fact from fantasy. One of my earliest dreams with past life elements included the pool in Auschwitz (which I didn't know it existed at the time) and food coupons being used (which I didn't know were a thing either) but also "penguins made of smoke that I could see from my window" (symbolism?) And I went back and forth between past and present and randomly included some people from school in that dream. On a first analysis, take what could be something relevant and dismiss what is fantastic or doesn't make sense. Then revisit it years later to see if the fantastic makes sense. I had a dream about islands in Munich that I thought was garbage until 10 years later I found out there were actually river islands.

My second advice is: focus on things that don't go away. For almost two decades, every time I would read a book or watch a documentary on concentration camps or even think about them, I would picture a wooden platform used during selections where the SS "selector" would stand. It wasn't a permanent artifact but it had to be set and then put away. I could never find a picture of anything like that, it's not portrayed in documentaries, it's not really even mentioned. I was in one of those moments where I just dismissed past lives altogether and part of it was my mind insisting on the existence of this imaginary wooden platform for so many years. I was explaining it to somebody else when I said the word "podium" instead of wooden platform. Then I looked up in Google books something along the lines of: podium, Auschwitz, selections and two results popped up mentioning such artifact, one of them being someone's recollections. I'm still not 100% convinced of its existence but maybe I'm just not that crazy either. So if something doesn't go away, pay attention to it.

The same goes for feelings. If you always hated something or liked something, most likely it means something. Especially if the feeling does not go away or keeps coming back. I was born with absolute hate and disgust for a particular country. I wanted nothing to do with it, their people or their language. These feelings were completely out of nowhere as this is a harmless country and my grandparents vacationed there every year. As I became more involved with past lives and met more nationals of that place my feelings significantly decreased, although until somewhat recently I still had dreams where I hear the language and get annoyed.

Also, pay attention to things that for whatever reason "do not feel right". I remember being no more than 7 years old, reading in a book that mentioned the capitals of Germany were Berlin and Bonn (administrative capital) and thinking "this is wrong, the real capital is only Berlin!". Even now, when learning german I'm aware of words that I don't know, but there are also some words that not only I don't know but they also feel odd. When I look them up, those words end up always being northern regionalisms, or maybe used in most of Germany except for the south.

Summarizing: write down your dreams and your emotions, every day and with every dream. Pay attention to the things you feel and visualize when you read books or think about the topic. Pay attention to recurrent things you like/dislike and what feels wrong or odd.

Thanks for sharing your experience and all the advice!! There’s so much here and it feels like something I can do. Firstly, I’ll do a dream journal like suggested from several here and still write down the link fantasy weird stuff. It might make better sense if I get some patterns out of it.

It’s interesting what you wrote about the wooden podium thing and getting it confirmed! It’s strange when something doesn’t seem to let go.

I’ve been to Auschwitz in this life and before and also when being there I kept associating it with like rain and mud. Like in an annoying way. When we were there it was sunny. But I started to google things that was related to mud and rain etc. And one survivor could never forget the mud, when it rained it would make work harder etc. It’s just a little detail and maybe random. It doesn’t really confirm anything, but I thought it was a little odd that this was one of the main things remembered from a survivor (among of course way more horrible things).

 

[Adruana]

Hi Adruana, welcome to the forum!

This! Past life memories often go with emotions. Those emotions carry over from one life to the other until you find a way or method to release that energy, in order to find peace in this life.
I don't find it weird that some elements in your dreams are inaccurate. Well, not accurate to the logical mind. It is highly possible that there still is a kind of emotional logic behind the anomalies.
Personally, my personality can't handle too many atrocities/cruelty/pain, etc. I am too sensitive for that. In this life and apparently in former lives as well. I became aware that during flash-backs and past life meditations, my vision shifts toward drawings and paintings of a scene. Also weird, because I am able to go back in time, look around in a 3D environment, move around, and suddenly I find myself in a kind of comic book, or a highly symbolic space. Yep, those were cruel moments in my history of past lives, like being killed for example.
You already received some good advice from the people above and I don't know anything to add to that list at the moment.

Thank you. I feel more accepting of my dreams now. That they don’t necessarily make sense but still have value. I can also be really sensitive to cruel stuff, so it might try to protect me from too much of that

 

[Adruana]

That's why we have to be careful what we expose children and people in general to. Some could be psychologically scarred for life.

There is a much higher probability that you haven't been incarnated during ww2, and that everything you experienced was caused by your unfortunate and avoidable childhood trauma.

I appreciate this viewpoint. I’ve thought it was maybe a bit early to show such a dark docu to a bunch of 8yo.

But.. thinking and considering my reaction to it, it felt different than just being traumatized by it. I wasn’t overtly scared, and I had an image of myself as an adult woman. She (me?) had long dark blonde/brown hair, and I had shorter light blonde hair then. She was also not extremely skinny as the people in the docu. Which makes me wonder if I saw a myself or a woman that I knew in that life. As there would have been parts of that life before an eventual imprisonment.
And though it was serious and dark for us, I can’t remember being very scared or traumatized. Highly affected by it and saddened, yes

 

[baro-san]

I highly encourage offering a lot of possibilities and probable explanations for a question, especially in the fields of reincarnation and parapsychology. I think I don't have to explain that this keeps us grounded and well-informed before we make our own conclusions.

Regarding childhood traumas after seeing scenes in a movie, ...

As I understand it, our entities experience many lives covering an extremely large spectrum of roles and situations. At entity level, everything is filed and can be recalled, better than we do with our memories here.

From this perspective, there are past-life experiences that predispose us to reactions in our current lives, but not only that it isn't necessary to relive traumatic past-lives over and over in each subsequent life, but it is even detrimental to our growth, as it could distract us, or re-open just healed wounds.

On one hand, there may be past-life unresolved issues that could be solved in this life by recalling them, while not getting obsessed with them.

On the other hand, exposing us (especially during our more intensely formative years) to traumatic stories and information can revive past-life memories that it would be better to be left alone. It is like poking a healing wound over and over.

There are various states of consciousness, and only our correct interpretation of them helps us growing.

 

[Eva1942]

I think that anyone who had a WWII PL in Germany or the Third Reich in general whether they were a Nazi German or Jewish will all have different views and opinions answering your questions. However, if I am to solely focus on your original post and nothing else below it (because I feel everyone cares to agree and disagree with points made by SeaAndSky and Barosan, and probably will with my own too).

It is true that the amount of WWII Holocaust Films are a lot - some would say too many. Add to that the documentaries, and quite frankly the outright ridiculous very early films which were very badly and inaccurately made, one could easily have been influenced by them. HOWEVER…..

You mention that you were 8 years old when you first were shown a Concentration Camp film, in school. You added a very important point here, one I think some have missed. You said you saw yourself very briefly as an adult woman. If you could remember what camp the documentary was based upon that *may* give you a clue as to even if you were in one. You also mentioned you felt a deep heaviness within you which is mostly connected to the adult woman you saw who may or may not have been you in a PL.

Let’s just ponder for a moment and say the adult woman you saw was you in a PL and you were imprisoned in a camp. There are some VERY telltale signs in your present life that you could look for and that would directly connect you to this woman and having been in the camps. These are:

- Anorexia/Bulimia/Relationship with food. Camp inmates often gorged themselves on food when they found it. Or they hid it “for later”. Or the other end of the spectrum - you either starve yourself in this life because you sometimes get fearful about not having enough to eat, or you over eat. It’s a very hard habit to break out of.

- The feeling that hair on your head is something that shouldn’t be there (Woman had their hair shaved off to lessen the risk of lice) and you hate the feel of it.

- An aversion to clothes with vertical stripes on them. Inmates wore oversized pyjamas with large vertical stripes. I know of some reincarnated victims/survivors (including me) can’t stand clothes with vertical stripes.

You also mention one other thing too, that was very real in the Reich, especially for Jewish people and *could* indeed be a PL memory seeping through:

“In another dream there were something about my family being tricked, like this was a huge feeling.”

This REALLY happened. Non Jewish (ie German) friends who were sympathetic to Hitler denounced Jewish friends to the Gestapo. Rabbis who still preached in underground/secret Shuls would warn Jewish congregations of how this was achieved by the Germans. They would befriend the Jewish person then denounce them to the Gestapo. I should know as in my Jewish lifetime in TR Germany, I was denounced in Prague after being befriended by someone who I thought was my friend and I could trust them. I ended up in Theresienstadt, Riga Ghetto and later Auschwitz-Birkenau.

Most Jews held hate and disgust towards Hitler too.

It doesn’t matter whether the dreams are historically correct or not. What the most important thing is that you remembered.

Hope this all helps,
Eva x

 

[Owl]

I’ve been to Auschwitz in this life and before and also when being there I kept associating it with like rain and mud. Like in an annoying way. When we were there it was sunny. But I started to google things that was related to mud and rain etc. And one survivor could never forget the mud, when it rained it would make work harder etc. It’s just a little detail and maybe random. It doesn’t really confirm anything, but I thought it was a little odd that this was one of the main things remembered from a survivor (among of course way more horrible things).

That's interesting and I'm not surprised you felt that way. I remember reading one survivor saying something along the lines of "If there were grass we would have eaten it". So, if there were no grass, it would definitely have been muddy when it rained, as only some parts seem somewhat paved. The experience could also be extrapolated to other concentration camps as well. Do you recall any other strange feelings or thoughts when you visited Auschwitz?

There are some good points in the post above, a bit of a "back to basics" that sometimes we forget when we spend too much time thinking about reincarnation. While everyone is different, people with similar experiences share some similar traits, whether it is past life-related or this life-related. Some people find it useful, other people find it triggering and I've been accused 10 years ago or so of "putting people into boxes and classifying them like the Nazis". Nevertheless, there are some aspects that are worth taking into consideration, so I'll add a few more to the ones Eva commented above.

* Do you think you were Jewish in that life? What are your feelings and relationships towards Judaism in general? I know that Rabbi Gershom, who wrote the book 'From Ashes to Healing', about recollections of past lives during the holocaust, mentioned that many reincarnated Jews tended to try to read books (or organize things in general) from right to left. Other people in that book also state feeling connected to Jewish traditions or the old testament even if they were raised in a different religion in this life. Do you have any particular feelings when hearing Hebrew?

*Besides that holocaust documentary, how do you feel towards other media portraying that time period? While I personally don't care about the movie much, there is a whole generation that has been triggered by Schlinder's list. Or how do you feel about Anne Frank's diary? I had very strange feelings when I read that book at 13 that I was not able to fully understand until 15 years later.

* You mention hating Hitler, which makes sense. How about Germany or the German language in particular? While it may not prove anything per se, as many holocaust victims were also German, it may be worth noting if you have any attraction or aversion to them.

* I read some people also mentioned that they always hated or feared German Shepherds and Dobermans. Some other people also had fear or distrust of showers in this life.

- An aversion to clothes with vertical stripes on them. Inmates wore oversized pyjamas with large vertical stripes. I know of some reincarnated victims/survivors (including me) can’t stand clothes with vertical stripes.

I second this. It may be a "universal KL experience", although I'm fine with vertical stripes as long as they are not blue/gray on a white background. But lately, it has been a trend in clothing stores to display clothes that actually do have vertical gray/blue stripes on a white background. Who in their right mind would wear that?? As a child, I used to go even further and associate anything that had blue or gray lines (not even necessarily vertical) with the holocaust. Even things that were completely unrelated, like Mother Theresa's headscarf.

 

[Eva1942]

.I second this. It may be a "universal KL experience", although I'm fine with vertical stripes as long as they are not blue/gray on a white background. But lately, it has been a trend in clothing stores to display clothes that actually do have vertical gray/blue stripes on a white background. Who in their right mind would wear that?? As a child, I used to go even further and associate anything that had blue or gray lines (not even necessarily vertical) with the holocaust. Even things that were completely unrelated, like Mother Theresa's headscarf.

I agree. I don’t understand the idea of this ‘trend’ lately and whenever I see someone wearing these colours I feel triggered and sometimes, if I don’t protect myself - degraded (though, if I’m honest, I’m still trying to work out whether this stems from my Nazi self who would see this on KZ visits, or my Jewish woman self).

As a child like you Owl, I would associate blue and grey lines to mean something “terribly disturbing”.

Eva x