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9/11 Baby - baby_rn

Hello baby rn,


Because your son asked "where they are from", I just wanted to confirm that Carol is correct -- none of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iraq. 15 were from Saudi Arabia, 2 from United Arab Emirates, 1 from Egypt, and 1 from Lebanon. Osama bin Laden is also from Saudi Arabia.


My best to you and your family as you continue on this amazing journey.


Beth
 
See what I know...look at that I'm giving him the wrong info! HA! Thanks for clarifying...if he asks about it again I'll let him know...he really doesn't seem to show any emotion when he says all of these things...its almost as if he's trying to figure out how and why it happened?Make any sense?Because they way he asked it was almost like he couldn't understand why these "bad men" did this if they had families...I thought it was interesting that he asked if they had families...not something I would think of if I knew someone intentionally knocked buildings down. I just started to read Carol's book so this may be discussed but I was wondering if in the research with children that remember past lives also know how they came to this life? To clarify...if they say "after you die you pick someone else's belly to go in" or something similar? Is this because his past life is so recent or is it a common occurrence?He asks about this kind of thing a lot...It's funny to me because he has asked me "why did you pick your persons belly" how do you answer that?? So anyway just wonder if that is common?
 
Hi babyrn,


I've also been in your shoes with trying to answer the tough and usually surprising questions.


My son also talked about picking me to be his mommy before he was born. He thinks I should remember picking my mommy and also a past life that we shared. I'm very honest. I just tell him that I dont remember but that I certainly believe he does. I tell him that it has been longer since I was born so I remember less.


I also tease him lightheartedly about the 'mommy store.' When he is unhappy with me, I tell him he can take me back to the mommy store and exchange me. He usually gets a little irritated with me and says 'mommy, that's not how it works.'


Vicky
 
Vicky


Glad to hear its just not happening to me!!!Is this also something that they forget about too?How long did it take for your son to start to move on? Mine tells his friends he has firetrucks and they say "i know we're playing with them and he says"no I have real ones."He just turned four so not a big deal at that age but if he still says this in a few yrears they may think he's lost it!my friend is pregnant and he said to me the other day"I don't know why she would want to be a baby again because then you have to pick another whole family to go to."could you tell me alittle about your son's past life if you have a chance?I took my son to the fire station today because they had an open house and he was thrilled..they let him spray the hoses and go into a smoke box(something like that he said its called). They thought his dad was a fire fighter because he knew how to open the compartments on the truck and how to work the hoses...pretty funny actually...they said is your daddy a firefighter and he looked at them in all seriousness and said"no, I am a firefighter"they got a kick out of it..if they only knew...
 
Hi babyrn,


I'll keep it brief because I've posted so many times re: my son. He said a few things when he was 2 1/2 about having been mine and my husband's daddy before. He talked a lot about being in heaven before he was born. He also used to ask us 'how he came here' and how he came to be in our family.


Finally one day, just days after he started kindergarten, he said 'sometimes when I see you and daddy together, I feel like I don't belong in this family.' (he is a very loved child and also loves us a lot so I knew it wasn't a bonding issue) My husband thought maybe someone a school had told him he was adopted or something to that effect so he showed him pictures of him at birth.


I knew something was amiss so I asked him later while laying in bed after a bath if he didn't belong to our family, what family did he belong to? He told me a very involved story about having a mother, father, older sister, older brother, younger sister and brother etc etc. Then he said his mom died. He was very very emotional when he spoke of this. He told me a lot of details of her car accident, her injuries and subsequent death that I was shocked. I went from not believing in reincarnation to believing in it in just a matter of seconds. My son was not capable of speaking like this with some of the vernacular he used etc. He said he lived in Africa and his parents and sibs had African sounding names.


He was very emotional about missing them and wanted to know where they were and how he got here. It was when I asked him if he remembered what happened just before he was born that he told me about choosing me to be his mommy. This was a turning point by the way of him accepting that he was actually born to us and it was his choice. Just me asking him how he came here helped him to remember. Sometimes a well placed question would help him over a hump like that. Actually, that was a mountain for awhile. He thought we kidnapped him.


It was tough for about 6 months. He told me about some fractions of other lives also, then the talk slowed and has not surfaced in awhile. I was completely freaked and actually spoke with Carol. She told me that kids seem to start forgetting at about 7. He will be 8 in March and he is forgetting. When I ask him about the things he said, he tells me he remembers thinking those things but he thinks they were just dreams now.


At first, I was so freaked out, I wished he wouldn't bring it up again. Then I mellowed and learned and read Carol's books, this forum and learned some more. Right about the time I wanted more details, he was done.


It seems that this is exactly where he is supposed to be. He is meant to move on and he is doing that.


I am deeply grateful to this forum for helping me stay sane those first few days.


Your son will move on also, when he is meant to. Starting kindergarten seemed to be an impetus for all of my son's talk and just getting grounded in this life seemed to be the impetus for it to stop.
 
Vicky


Thank you for your son's story...sounds very similar to what's going on with my son as well...Did he remember more than one past life? i think my son does...he says he's a firefighter/animal rescuer..at first I thought it was one all in the same but I'm beginning to believe there are two different stories going on...he sometimes combines them it seems...i get more specific details about the firefighter though...i think enough to figure out who he is but don't know where I go with it...keep it private maybe? He really doesn't show any emotion about it though...weird really he just gives me facts and makes a lot of little jokes about it. He said at his firestaion someone made popcorn once and burned it and they put it outside and sprayed it with the hoses! he thought this was hilarious!Just little funny things!Anyway he says he's a scuba diver that rescues animals(as i've siad before he's shown me in the pool and i believe that, I can't even do things like that...especially walk on the ground in flippers)pretty funny! Put he said he has an aquarium and big tanks...he said his house is in the mountians overlooking the water...he insists he has a tiger shark in the tank and that I need to buy him one for the house...he showed me how he cathes poisonous snakes with some kind of stick that cathes their head first or something! Got to go more info to come...just wondering if your stories were similar life themes or complete opposite ends of the spectrum? Any one know if a child remembers more than one past life if they are similar like his are helpers or rescuers? Just interested to see if this is true?
 
Hi babyrn,


Yes, my son does remember more than one life and the lives are very different. He initially remembered his most immediate past life but one day about 6 months later started talking about having been a Red Coat in a war where he fought the French on American soil. History was not my strong suit and I had to look up to see if the British ever fought the French on our soil. They did. He told me his name from that life time and I found him on the internet with some validating facts.


I haven't heard too much about kids remembering more than one life. I think it confuses them to just remember one and I'm not sure if they can tell them apart.


Have you ever heard of Indigo Children? There is a website called ChildSpirit.org or maybe .com that has a lot of info. It helped me when I was in your shoes.


Vicky
 
Thanks for replying...i thought it might be common that if they remember one they will remember more...I have a question for you ...once your son let you know who he was in a past life did he then start to have less memories of the past life...I pretty much know who my son was(he will not say his name)but from details he has given me...I'm wondering if he wants me to figure it out or if it is something that has no bearing on anything? The other problem is that this is so recent a past life this persons family is still mourning their loss...so maybe I don't need the name...I'm not sure where to go from here mostly bacause this is such a recent event?!Anyone have any ideas? There is still more to explore from what he is saying but i'm not sure if its better not to know the persons name?i'm kind of at a loss with this one...sorry off the subject a bit but I need some advice...Thanks!
 
Baby rn,


Each case is different as to how long a child talks or remembers a past life. Sometimes kids talk about it once. Some kids persist in talking about it for a few years. Most often the memories fade by the age of 5, 6, or 7. There are exceptions, though.


In your son's case, it sounds to me as if he's still very much identified with the last life and is trying to figure out what happened. In some cases, as soon as there seems to be some kind of understanding or resolution about the past,the memories fade quickly. Or, he may continue to show a strong interest in firefighting throughout his life, but the specific memories of trying to save the people may fade. Can't really say what will happen.


My son, who is now 25, still has memories of his Civil War life--the details he saw when he was young. The visual memories of the battlefield are still with him. Now the realizations about that experience are much more subtle, if at all. The emotional charge dissipated after he remembered dying in that lifetime, around the age of 7.


I have adult clients who had past life memories as a child and still remember the memories vividly.
 
Carol


I just started to read your book...very interesting and informative...I did not realize your children remembered past lives also...I just came here to this forum kind of blindly and now I'm so happy I found it! it makes me feel so much better that this is something happening to lots of kids and not just my son...We'll see what happens if he starts to forget or not...do you think his name is important to know?He had started to give me specific details that is why I stopped posting for a while because i wasn't really sure what to do with the info...Its so recent and that's my problem with the whole thing...also I had asked earlier if there is more than one life remembered do they tend to have similar life themes?


Like rescuer, teacher, warrior etc...has this ever been researched? I always think of questions like these...guess maybe i should have gone into research..its interesting to me...sorry off the subject but just wondering if this has ever been investigated? When I go to work my son always says he's going to work too because nurses(i'm a nurse by the way) and firefighters sometimes see each other...and then he tells my husband he doesn't have a "real"job because he's a pilot...(my husband loves those comments!) but he says cause we help people it's a job...so just wodering if it is somehow ingrained in him to be a helper...just curious...
 
My son seems to remember lives where he was some kind of soldier. By the way he behaves sometimes, I also think he may have been someone in charge. :)


Its hard for me to say because I am like you in that I could never decipher how many lives my son was talking about. Sometimes i also wondered if he wasn't just psychic and was maybe just picking up on someone's feelings or memories. His more detailed comments and his references to what he liked and disliked really did seem past life related.


Seems like the things that troubled my son were things he needed to work through. Drawing what he was afraid of really helped him. Maybe your son would like to draw what happened.


it seems you have enough info to find out who he was but that may be a difficult road in itself.


Vicky
 
Dear Baby_rn,


We often repeat all kinds of patterns from one life to another, so it's very likely your son has some similarities in many of his past lives. On the other hand I believe we all get to experience very different aspects of human life, so it could be the similar lifetimes are working as triggers for each other, so that he remembers them "in a bunch" now.


It's difficult to day whether you should try and find out your son's past personality or not. I probably would, being always so curious, but I don't know if I would do anything with that information.


Please keep us posted what ever you decide to do. I'm glad you got Carol's book and have found comfort from this forum. :thumbsup:


Karoliina
 
Baby rn,


I've seen that there are patterns in multiple lives--and, as Karoliina said, we also try different types of lives to round out our experience. It certainly seems that your son is exhibiting strong patterns of altruism or helping others which carried forward from his last life--and probably other ones too. It will be interesting to see what he does with this.


I recently had an adult client who was a federal prosecutor of gang members. In her most recent past life she had been a mobster who was responsible for the deaths of others. She saw that she chose to atone for that with her career choice in this life. It was a fascinating example of how we can change our courses from one life to the next.


I have mixed feelings about trying to establish past life identities. It seems almost too appealing not to follow through and see if you can figure out who your son was. But then the question is: what do you do with that information?


Since the death was so recent, would a family want to know that their loved one has been reborn?


There is case on the Forum of James Leininger whose parents were able to confirm his past life identity as a fighter pilot who died in 1945. They actually found living family members who were told that their brother/uncle had been reborn. It was quite emotional for everyone involved. Fortunately, the family was open to the idea of reincarnation.


I have another case of a boy who remembered being a Marine who died in Beirut in the 1980's. The father could have pursued it to find out who his son had been, but decided not to. He speaks about it eloquently in my second book.


So it's your call.


I really think that what's most important for your son right now is for you to figure out if there's anything he needs to resolve from that death. If so, you can help him by acknowledging what he's saying and assure him that he did everything within his power to help those people.


If your son does give you enough specific detail, and you can establish his former identity, feel free to run it by us on the Forum, and we can discuss the pros and cons of approaching the family. You really do need some very specific details to do that. Perhaps you already have enough information that you haven't shared--which is totally fine. As I said, it's your call.
 
Hi Carol,


I just wanted to say that I recently finally managed to get my hands on a copy in Portuguese of "Children's Past Lives" ("As Vidas Passadas das Crianças") and was delighted by the sensibility with which you wrote (congratulations extended to Steve as well, of course...) :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Vicky


i sometimes think the same as you...does he have some abilities I cannot even fathom??I'm not sure about this either? But I was wondering if your son has any special rocks? Sounds silly to say but he has this aqua blue rock that he calls his treasure rock and it has its own special place and own special bag that he plays with...other times if someone from our family has a pain or says something is hurt he gets it out and warms it with his hands(literally..it gets really warm) and puts it where he says he sees a red spot...don't know if thats past life related or healing or something...just thought of that now cause you said you wonder about your son too...do you have anything like this happen?
 
Carol


thanks for the info...he has told me his age, company number and rank...so yes i have apretty good idea of who he was...there is some more info from him I'm waiting for to be 100 percent sure...i'm a farily private person and the people on this forum and my mom are about the only ones that know anything about this...I just wish I knew what to do with it?i can't imagine someone coming to me to say that thier child's past live was my son...it might really confuse someone escpecially if they don't believe in reincarnation...it might confuse and interest where they want to talk to my son and I don't want him somehow damaged by this you know? i guess I'll wait and see...anyone have any pros to this? i keep coming up with cons!!


Another question about birth marks..my son has a small round dark pigmentation on the right side of his neck that has been there very light when he was born and has been getting darker as he gets older...I've heard sometimes these coincide with injuries is that true? Also, kind of weird and may have nothing to do with anything...but when my son was about 16 months old(I think) he all of a sudden couldn't use one of his legs...he would be walking fine and then just fall and drag that leg behind him...it never seemed to hurt but he couldn't walk on it...this happened on and off for about three weeks...i took them to doctors and no one could find anything wrong with it...at the same time he was waking up from his naps screaming and in a panic it seemed but he seemed still asleep...it was like his whole body was tensed up...i found this odd because this child is the most mellow,easy going child and never screamed about anything unless i was going somewhere without him(like any other child that age) .


This could be way far off but do you think that it was something that happened from a past life at that time? i thought of this after i'd read something on the internet about Jeff Keene's experience at age thirty...It was just one of those weird things I remembered vividly because I was so afraid something was terribly wrong with him...it was gone in three weeks and never a problem again...just wondering if you've heard of things like this in children remember past lives?
 
My son really screamed when he couldn't see me until he was over three. I didn't feel we were doing anything to cause this and I'm pretty honest with myself about myself. I couldn't even take a shower without him standing outside the door screaming.


I finally found out it had to do with his past life mother dying while he was still young.


My son doesn't seem to have any healing powers but has shown some psychic abilities. Has been able to tell what others are thinking.


Once when he was 2, his best friend was hit by a car. We had been out of town and didn't know anything about it but he insisted I call her mother the instant we got home. We were driving still about an hour from home when he started insisting. He told me she was at the doctor's. I told him 'no, that was last week, she had an ear infection.' He said 'no, mommy its really bad.' Really freaky stuff. The girl and her mom ended up being o.k. after some recovery.


He likes rocks but not for healing purposes.


Tough to think of pros for contacting his past life family except that it may bring them comfort. For this to work though, they'd have to be receptive. I have heard of other people calling to speak with the family under the guise of another reason. For example to say that you are a reporter interviewing the families of the deceased firefighters but I don't really know if I'd recommend that. I've just heard of it being done.


Have you ever read anything by Dr. Stevenson? He has done a lot of research re: children who remember their past lives. Some of it can be found linked through this forum. He has filmed children meeting their past life families. Interesting stuff but a lot of his work was done in countries that predominately believe in reincarnation. I'd say the U.S. doesn't predominately believe in reincarnation.


Do you live in the U.S.? ANywhere close to N.Y.?
 
Vicky


that's funny that you say that about your son crying whenever you leave...mine did for quite a while too!He still to this day always wants to know where I am...If he can't see me then he's always calling me, if I'm in the bathroom he's knocking on the door etc. He also tells me he's going to work the same nights(I just went back to work at night occasionally)as I go because firefighters see nurses sometimes...I've been home with my kids for four years and just started back to work. So when I have on my scrubs he literally comes out in his fire outfit and says I'll see you later...Pretty cute actually.


I was wondering if you have any other children and do they have anything like this going on?I have a daughter too and she is completely opposite from him...he always wants her to play as an imaginary princess or bad guy or something and she's always saying"no way I'm...then states her name!Very funny! He always wants to take care of her and she's always yelling she'll do it herself!I'm glad she doesn't have the same things going on in some ways because I don't know if I could deal with trying to figure out more past lives!


Oh ,by the way, we live in California but I grew up on the East coast and we go there for the summer. Not to NYC though...we are about three hours away. Its funny though I grew up close enough to Nyc and very seldom went there and as soon as I was out in California my husband and I go there in Dec. every year. my son loves the East coast though and never wants to leave at the end of the summer(his grandparents are there too)...he loves the beach...I don't know that I would bring him to Nyc anytime soon...I'm afraid it might upset him...
 
I don't have any other children and only had our son after years of fertility treatments. We actually gave up trying to have a baby and were going through the adoptive process. At the very last day of this, I woke up pregnant.


I have heard of others having babies in somewhat unlikely situations that end up of having kids that say things like our boys do. Carol may know if it is actually documented. All my info is anecdotal.


I have a friend who has fraternal twins and one says things (that my friend does not quite recognize for what they are) and the other one doesn't. I also have a friend who had a little girl after years of in vitro and her daughter talks about her 'children', Max and Sally. She goes on with detail that she couldn't possibly grasp at 4 yrs old. She is now 7 but started talking when she was 4.


Like your son, my son has also been very imaginative but this is his mommy talking. :) He has always liked certain types of pretend play. I love when he goes into his room and comes out dressed up as whatever his obsession is at the time. There is a different way that he plays with certain things. Tough to explain but he has had certain obsessions. The guitar, pirates, native american... to name a few. He has played with these themes in a much different way than he has played Spiderman for instance. I've had a feeling that these things are past life related but of those topics, he has only told me of a life as an indian and it was only a tidbit. He also remembers and instantly likes anyone who relates to him on these particular subjects. We were at Deborah's a couple of yrs ago and her son, Daniel, took some time with my son and showed him some guitar chords. My son still remembers that and remembers Daniel. I think that had the guitar not been involved that my son may not remember us stopping by Deborah's.


I will pm you. Otherwise I tend to go on too long.
 
Carol


I think last night might have been the first glimpse of emotion having to do with my son's past life death(if that's how you put it) My husband and son were wrestling and playing in the living room like they always do...my son was hiding his treasure or something like that under a blanket. My husband took the blanket and put it over my sons head and wrapped him up in it and my son absolutely freaked out and started screaming and ran into the other room...keep in mind he was under the blanket for maybe 5 sec...my husband looked at me and said what's that all about because that is unusual behavior for my son (he pretty rough and tumble kid).


Anyway,I went into the room and asked him what was wrong and he was still crying and said "it was so heavy on my head and I couldn't get out!" But i said, your ok, your out and daddy was just playing.He was so shaken up and the look in his eyes was pure fear...it freaked me out...then suddenly he ran out of the room and started playing with his dad again as if nothing happened...without the blanket of course. i think he might of had a memory about what he had said earlier about the building falling on his head...do you think?Another question...this may seem weird but for some reason this one website seems to keep popping up on my computer and playing a song...it's a 9/11 memorial slide show and plays the song Abraham, MArtin and John(i think thats the name).


But at weird times its on...I came in the office one morning at 4 am cause I couldn't sleep and the computer screen was turned off but I heard this song coming from the computer so I turned on the screen and here was this slide show...i had never seen it before and my husband said he didn't have it on there and my son doesn't know how to use the computer...this has happened three times now. I looked for this memorial for hours after the first time it happened and couldn't find it anywhere...so when it came on again I wrote down the website...www.weshallneverforget.org...don't know why its happening...


Oh yea I just remembered something he said yesterday...he said"mommy I'm a really good scuba diver" I said,"I'm sure you are" He said" No you don't know...I'm REALLY good at it" Then he preceeded to tell me how I taght him how to catch sharks and tag them...he said i looked different then and then laughed! I don't know what that means but it was in the same type of tone as I get the firefighting info...
 
Sorry I've been away for a while...holidays are hectic at my house as they are at everyone else's I'm sure...There is still quite a bit of info I'm sorting thru with the things my son has said...but I thought of Carol the other night when my son said he is scared of big fires and going up high. She has been asking if he has voiced any fears...wel here they come I guess...He was really concerned that we didn't have a plan to get out of the house if there was a fire and that he couldn't reach the 'real" fire extinquisher in his closet to put out a fire...he said how is he supposed to rescue everyone if he can't get out his own door(he has a slider in his room) and can't get the fire extinguisher...he was really upset about it...so my husband made a 'plan" for him and let him listen to what a smoke alarm sounds like so he would be more comfortable and practiced where to go etc...


Then a few minutes later my husband set off the alarm again and told him "ok pretend this is a real fire what do you do?" (thinking he will go do what they just practiced)No not quite...He ran and got his real firehat(a friend gave it to him recently) and began trying to climb on things in his closet to get the real fire extinguisher, then covered his face with his blanket and began yellling to my husband get out and get low...so it was not quite the fire drill we were planning on. i'm just afraid that if he does come across a real fire he might actually try to fight it...scary. He insists he's an excellent firefighter and the other day was standing with his hat on reciting something that sounded like an oath or something...do firefighters say those?


Anyway, I'm not sure how you help him with a fear of fire when he wnats to fight it if it happens? Does that make sense? Thanks to you all for all you help in the past.Its greatly appreciated! I want to ask Kristajohn ,if she is still around, if she could tell me a little more about what her son said about her daughter being back with him. When my daughter was sick last month he kept trying to "fix" her and was very worried because he said he can't do his job without her because she is the doctor he brings his people too...interesting that she says she wants to be a doctor when she grows up!
 
baby rn said:
He insists he's an excellent firefighter and the other day was standing with his hat on reciting something that sounded like an oath or something...do firefighters say those?
Anyway, I'm not sure how you help him with a fear of fire when he wants to fight it if it happens? Does that make sense? Thanks to you all for all you help in the past.Its greatly appreciated! I want to ask Kristajohn ,if she is still around, if she could tell me a little more about what her son said about her daughter being back with him. When my daughter was sick last month he kept trying to "fix" her and was very worried because he said he can't do his job without her because she is the doctor he brings his people too...interesting that she says she wants to be a doctor when she grows up!
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Hi!


Yes, it makes sense. But he's, what, two, maybe three meanwhile? He might be a great firefighter when he's older, taller and stronger. Not now ;) I guess deep in his heart your son knows that he can't possibly fight a fire at his age, but he can still try. If that is his nature, then so be it. But it is extremely dangerous when your son is in a real situation and, being a three-year-old, starts saving people *shivers*. You might want to help him understand the danger - I would - I'd try and talk to him. Tell him he's too young to go and fight a fire. Tell him his mummy loves him very profoundly for who he is, but that he has to bury his knowledge about fires for a while, for his own sake. Repeat it often enough so that it might get through to him.


About the oath: "I (state your name), as a Fire Officer, for the City of (your city) Fire Department, recognize my obligation, to protect and preserve life and property of the public we serve; and I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully and impartially, discharge and perform, all of the duties incumbent upon me, as a Fire Officer for the City of (your city) Fire Department, according to the best of my ability and understanding, so help me God." Is it something alike? ... Every department has its own firefighter oath. I'm just browsing the website a little, but I already think http://www.firefighternation.com/ is a good site to ask all of your questions. When your son tells you about it again, you might want to ask him what his was ;)


Greets


Tineke
 
Hi baby rn,


Nice to see you back again :)

Anyway, I'm not sure how you help him with a fear of fire when he wnats to fight it if it happens? Does that make sense?
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Perhaps you can have your son help YOU make a plan to get out – tell him you need his expertise ;) . By teaching and showing you – he may come to an easier understanding of what needs to be done – plus it makes him feel important and knowledgeable. We do that with my nephew and it works wonders. ;)


During the process - tell him that right now everyone’s most important job is to get out of the house in a fast and safe way – and meet up where you planned outside. Go through the drill several times. Perhaps have your husband time him to make it a bit more fun. Make a huge deal out of him beating his previous time - and give him a little reward each time he beats his score. At the end of the day – give him something special, like a firefighter medal (you can use a sheriff’s badge or policeman’s badge from the costume store). Have a little "ceremony" and reinforce the notion that he received the medal for getting out of the house quickly and safely.


Try it again the following weekend and see if he can do it. Sometimes children need constant repetition of an activity for it to "stick." ;)


Ailish
 
Hi babyrn,


I like Ailish's suggestions about practicing. One thing came to mind that may be obvious. If your son was a fire fighter/paramedic, they often bring patients in to the hospital. I used to work in an E.R. and we got to know a lot of firemen, paramedics, EMT's, policemen. Maybe that's how he met his sister in his last life.


Vicky
 
Nice to see you back, Baby_rn! :thumbsup:


Thanks for the update. I think Aili gave some very good tips on how to handle this situation (and she doesn't even have children of her own :eek: :D ).


I also thought it was very interesting comment about her sister being a doctor. I thought the same thing as Vicky - that maybe she used to work as an ER doctor close to his firestation. I'm sorry but I can't remember now - how old is your daughter?


Karoliina
 
baby rn said:
Here is where I said he waivers(to clarify) he always says his truck says a 3 or 33 or both...thats why I was wondering if he could have been on a ladder and a rescue truck? every once in a while he will say 343 so I don't know what is what...He always uses 3 or 4 .
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First, I want to say that I find your story so fascinating and found some info that might be of interest to you - and some validations that I found as to who your son may have been.


There was an Engine 33 that was one of the first to respond to the scene. There were also 343 firefighters that died that day.


I also see that there was a Kevin Dowdell who was a leutenant...and he apparantely specialized in scuba diving and loved doing rescue work!


http://fallenbrothers.com/community/showthread.php?t=1476


http://www.oneescape.com/inmemoriam/Profiles/Folders/D_Folder/Dowdell_Kevin.html


To me, it sounds possible that your son may very well have been Kevin Dowdell. Maybe you can show your son the picture and see how he reacts or what he says?
 
Thanks everyone for the great advice...Ailish I will give that a try...makes more sense!I think sometimes when your taken offguard in a situation like that its hard to say or do the right thing initially...I don't anticipate his reaction to things sometimes...


Thank you for the info regarding the oath...i'm not sure what he was saying but the way he was saying it sounded like an oath...if I ask him anything about firefighting things or things he's said most times he laughs or looks at me like I'm crazy...he only talks when he wants to not usually if I ask him things out of the blue...He saw a picture of a firefighter in a scuba outfit and said "thats just like mine and he has two tanks on his back because he is doing a deep water dive"...1. I did not even notice there were two tanks on this man's back because it was a side view2. he showed me the two meters or something like that on the top of the tanks and that is why he knew there were two. Anyone know if that is true...do you need two tanks for a deep water dive? Makes sense I guess...


Regarding who he was... I'm not sure how far I want to go with it..Thanks for the info. Yes, it sounds similar to what he is describing. But ,there are some things that are different thatt he has said and I've not written... who knows this is a four year old we're talking about..I guess he can't have all the details...but thanks for researching...I just don't know what I would do with the info because this is such a recent tragic death of someone...


In regards to my daughter...she is three and he insists that he needs her to help his people...she on the other hand does not say anything about being a doctor other than she wants to be one...she does love to play up the part of the damsel in distress and is always calling out to my son...help I need to be rescued and out he runs to help her...very funny actually...oh yea he has described putting people on "the bed that rolls" and taking them to the ambulance place(exactly how he said it) make of it what you want I guess...
 
Hi Baby rn,

Anyone know if that is true...do you need two tanks for a deep water dive? Makes sense I guess...
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Yes, it's certainly true. When one tank exhausts its air supply, its valve is turned off and the valve for the second tank is opened for more air supply. :thumbsup:
 
Hello baby_rn, kristajohns, and everyone.


I heard about this forum on the Coast to Coast AM radio program the other night and heard Carol mention a story about a 9/11 firefighter. A few months ago I had coincidentally written to George Noory, the host of C2C, describing how I thought that my son was a 9/11 firefighter in a past life.


I had visited NYC in early 2002. My friend and I did not go to Ground Zero, but we were in Chinatown, which is close to the financial district. Anyway, by fall I was pregnant. It was unplanned but I kept the baby. And thank goodness I did, he is a beautiful, warm-hearted, smart little boy and he is the center of my life.


He is almost 5 and so the memories are starting to fade, but when he was about 18 months old (barely talking!) he told me about being up on a ladder and buildings coming down and getting people out of the buildings. On another occasion soon after I was watching television and an ad came on our public television station with clips of firefighters. I flipped the channel and he was desperate to see the 9/11 footage, so I flipped back and he was transfixed by what was on the screen.


A couple of years ago I received a photo of some 5th Ave. apartment buildings as a gift and he has held onto it for dear life. He says it's pretty and says he will never let me give it away.


He has horrible nightmares, but can't remember any of them apparently.


Even stranger is that he told me a few months back that he picked me to be his mom.


He is also deeply philosophical. He told me that our spirit is outside of our mind, but is linked to it, and that the mind is in the brain. He also told me what his spirit looks like, like a tornado...a gently moving small tornado (he showed me with his hands.)


I know I am forgetting some details because it has been a few years, but it was utterly convincing at the time! :)
 
Hi blue_flutterby,


Welcome to the forum - and thank you for sharing your story with us. :)


It sounds like you have a pretty special lil guy ;)


Are the nightmares still bothering him? You may want to try a blue light in his room - it has a very calming and soothing effect on children.


Enjoy the forum!


Ailish
 
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