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Are Things Like Talent And Likeability "Rigged"?

TheCuriousOne

TheCuriousOne

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Reading the stories on this forum and in other places it would seem to me that talent and likeability are completely dependent on who you were in a past life. For instance, say someone is a terrible artist. They never had a life as an artist, does that mean they can never learn to draw, paint, etc. no matter how much they practice? Or if someone was an insensitive jerk in a past life and made everyone miserable, does that mean that they can never make friends because everyone will just pick up their bad vibes and instantly reject them no matter how nice they are?

It just gets me down to think that one or more of my past lives might be preventing me from making friends, or that I will never be good at something because I didn't have the "right" life. I also am confused when people say stuff like "Oh you chose to be this way". You would have to be either really daring or really dumb to choose a life where you are unpopular and have no friends and no talents. (I don't think of myself this way, I'm just giving an example)

Sorry for the long post. I'd love to hear your opinions. :)
 
To make friends try joining groups and activities that involve things you are interested in, or would like to try. Cities have everything from Zumba to historical groups and everything in between.
 
I don't live anywhere near a city, but thanks for the advice. Also I have been in groups before but I have never made friends in any of them. I am very shy and rely on people coming up to me. However, it's like I don't even exist. When I was a child in school I was usually the one who had the teacher for a partner during activities and feild trips.
 
I find personally that if we're destined to meet someone, we will. What we do when we have that meeting, though, is down to our own free will.


The important people in our lives are destined to be there, through a complex and intricate series of planned synchronicities. It's no coincidence that we just happened to be in a certain place at a certain time, and happened to meet someone that resonates with us. If it's meant to be, then it will be, regardless of your immortal soul personality. If you have designed it to happen pre-birth, it will.
 
I think its partly innate and partly a matter of what that person wants to express and accomplish in their current life.


There's no rule that says if a person is famous in one life they will be famous in the next. It really matters what is driving that person.
 
Dear CuriousOne,


I do think your past life has some bearing on your present life but not as much as you think. We are brought into this life with a baggage but we are also endowed with skills and talents to cope with whatever our Karmic fate would dish us out. Even when we are seemingly overwhelmed, we are not, just that we must be calm and find the right solution to a given problem. The easiest and fastest "solution" is often the wrong one.


When you feel alone, understand that you are not alone and if fact there are unseen forces that bid your cause.


Cheers


A
 
TheCuriousOne said:
I don't live anywhere near a city, but thanks for the advice. Also I have been in groups before but I have never made friends in any of them. I am very shy and rely on people coming up to me. However, it's like I don't even exist. When I was a child in school I was usually the one who had the teacher for a partner during activities and feild trips.
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You are an introvert like me. As a kid I was always quiet, shy, and a loner. Now I am better as I get older. You are probably not old enough yet to have experienced this, but I will tell you to be prepared to be shocked when you meet people you were close to in past lives. You will suddenly start talking and not know when to stop. It will be like the dam has burst. And you won't know why, you will be totally amazed. This is how you will know that was someone you were close to in a past life. Looking back, I realize now that I have unknowingly been following my life plan all of my life. I used to get very depressed and wonder silently, "Why me?" But now I know. I had some very important rendezvous to keep. Some took hundreds of years to set up. But we did it. And now it feels awesome.
 
If you have to have a past life where you were good at something, then how would you have ever have been good at something in the first place? Do you see what I am saying? There has to be a first time for everything. You are who you are in this life with your own unique talents and abilities. Only every so often (and a lot less than what you may think because you are only seeing cases of the ones who do) people have abilities that carry over. You may have chosen the life you have now for reasons that don't make sense to you now, but will eventually.
 
To me it seems a matter of evolution. I'm a professional artist, and my sense has always been that I brought that purpose with me -- it feels like a calling I began in another time and place, long & long ago.


But even if I'm right about that and past 'practice' has given me a leg up on my art in this life, that doesn't mean the beginning steps were any less valuable. Rather, it confirms the importance of all effort at every stage of every endeavor, in one life or many. Or so it seems to me...


When I try something new that feels utterly unfamiliar or awkward, I'd like to think I'm laying foundations for -- who can say what in the wild-wood of the future!
 
Blackbird said:
When I try something new that feels utterly unfamiliar or awkward, I'd like to think I'm laying foundations for -- who can say what in the wild-wood of the future!
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Thanks to the computer I'm teaching myself new skills that I hope to be able to use in future lives. I wonder if i will remember where it came from? :)
 
ZeonChar said:
If you have to have a past life where you were good at something, then how would you have ever have been good at something in the first place? Do you see what I am saying? There has to be a first time for everything. You are who you are in this life with your own unique talents and abilities. Only every so often (and a lot less than what you may think because you are only seeing cases of the ones who do) people have abilities that carry over. You may have chosen the life you have now for reasons that don't make sense to you now, but will eventually.
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Beat me to it ZeonChar.


This is the whole 'free choice' thing. You are fortunate that you live in a society that is relatively prosperous and have time to even wonder about these things, let alone have choices of whether you might like to be an artist or a musician or whatever. This is a fairly modern conundrum believe it or not. Once upon a time only the very wealthy got to choose and even they didn't have that many options because society was structured very rigidly.


If there's something you want to get better at, start practising your skills. Making friends (and keeping them) is a skill like any other that can be learned and you can get better at it over time.


Try not to be discouraged if it doesn't work out first time, or your first attempts end up a bit of a mess. Keep at it and you will become good at it over the years. That's 'life'. :)
 
I understand your problem I will begin by saying what I believe that we are three separate identities in one the physical us the pure us or spiritual us, if you prefer that and our souls


makes the answer to what is going on with you very answerable. You see the problems you have are being experienced by the physical you, not the real and pure you.. The real or spiritual you does not have these problems.


If you can bring yourself to believe that then by meditating and becoming closer to the real you, you will slowly become more like who you really are, not who the physical you is.
 
Blackbird said:
To me it seems a matter of evolution. I'm a professional artist, and my sense has always been that I brought that purpose with me -- it feels like a calling I began in another time and place, long & long ago.
But even if I'm right about that and past 'practice' has given me a leg up on my art in this life, that doesn't mean the beginning steps were any less valuable. Rather, it confirms the importance of all effort at every stage of every endeavor, in one life or many. Or so it seems to me...


When I try something new that feels utterly unfamiliar or awkward, I'd like to think I'm laying foundations for -- who can say what in the wild-wood of the future!
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I too am an artist, and it's something that came naturally to me from the time I was very young. My Mom always said "I don't know where your talent comes from - certainly not me nor your father." But I'm also good at a ton of other things - business, decorating and furniture design, clothing design - but then a lot of that is similar to art, I guess.


My main talent has always been organization. I am a real organizational freak by nature, then in school was involved with industrial engineering (which is "efficiency expert") and for a few years, was employed as project manager and efficiency manager, so it just made me even more a-retentive about that kind of thing. It's odd - the organizational and efficiency and business acumen doesn't generally go hand-in-hand with an artistic nature. I've always wondered if these different talents came through from different past lives.


I just hope I can hang on to all I've learned in this lifetime when my time comes to move on. I love my work and I love the way my own mind works and I'd hate to lose all of that. he he he
 
Conroy said:
I find personally that if we're destined to meet someone, we will. What we do when we have that meeting, though, is down to our own free will.
The important people in our lives are destined to be there, through a complex and intricate series of planned synchronicities. It's no coincidence that we just happened to be in a certain place at a certain time, and happened to meet someone that resonates with us. If it's meant to be, then it will be, regardless of your immortal soul personality. If you have designed it to happen pre-birth, it will.
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You voiced exactly what I've felt to be the case, my whole life. I have seen a past life with my present-day husband, way back in perhaps 1600's and while it didn't look like him, I knew it was. He and I were born many states apart (me in FL, he in KS) and I grew up some years in Alabama. We both had previous marriages, and we met and fell in love here in S. FL where we live now after our marriages were long over.


We're so similar and so in sync that we have often wondered how the series of events in our lives conspired to finally bring us togther. There was a 'close call' about 6 years before we met, when I lived in Rancho Bernardo, CA briefly, and his father had a home in Rancho Bernardo, and we were there (after we compared notes) at the exact same time, going to the exact same stores, restaurants, etc. I just figure we weren't 'ready' then. Too soon after our old marriages and relationships, and we'd have both screwed it up. :rolleyes:
 
Keep in mind that I don't claim to be sure of any of these things, not even that past lives exist. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe we're all wrong, maybe we're all right... who knows? There's so much we can't know with absolute certainty (yet). This means that this post is just some possibilities and theories I've thought about.


It doesn't make much sense to me that talents would be completely rigged. I think that maybe they're more or less like past life memories. Some people recall their past lives more easily and more often than others. Talents could be the same way, some people are more in touch with the talents and skills they used to have than others. I think that what you're good at has to do with many others factors, too, like your biology and your environment. You could have been very good at painting in a past life, but not in this one because you don't have a good hand coordination or have never been given the chance to try to paint and develop your talent. Even people who have a natural knack for something need to work hard and train. You can be good at a certain sport and have all it takes to succeed, but you also need to keep up a training routine and work very hard to become a famous professional. If you choose not to or have never been given that chance, you'll just become something else.


I think it's possible that people (at least some people) may gravitate more to certain hobbies and professions due to their past lives, but that's more generally. It doesn't have to be the case with everyone, though.


As to likeability, who knows? I'd think that your actions in this life and the people around you are more important. If you're rude or mean, people will dislike you, and if you're just shy, that can make it more difficult for people to get to know you. If you're surrounded by people who are incompatible with you or prejudiced, that can make it harder to make friends, too.


There are other factors that studies have shown to make people more socially successful. Your socialisation in early life, your life experiences, and even the way you look can affect who likes you and how much.


If people are simply dislikeable because of a past life, it seems a bit pointless to have another life and another chance to be liked and make friends.


That's to say nothing of how likeable or dislikeable people can be regardless of their actions. There are people who do horrible things but are very charismatic and well-liked by others. Just think of how many times someone commits a heinous crime and journalists go visit the community affected by it, and everyone says they never thought that person was doing that sort of thing because they seemed so nice and were intelligent, pleasant model citizens on the surface.
 
Cont...


There are discussions in the 'Past Life Forum' regarding what may (or may not) carry-over e.g., skills, talents, personality traits, occupations, values, etc.


From what can be inferred, answers to these discussions seem subjective, and inconclusive.


Marc
 
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