Is It Right To Add Your Own PL Self To Websites...

[TheCuriousOne]

like Ancestry or Find A Grave?

I do not plan on doing this myself. I'm just asking: Let's say you've discovered a past life, but it happened in, like, the 1600s and there are no records for it anywhere. Would it be right to create the record yourself, or would that be considered "cheating"? (As in, adding it just for the sake of having verification). I personally think it is wrong to do this because it can make the validation feel hollow and artificial, though there are times when I'm so frustrated at not finding "me" that I am tempted to do so. What do you guys think?

 

[Owl]

People in those sites will rightfully ask for records, if there are no records there should be no entry. Also, you cannot be %100 sure that you have all the correct data if you cannot compare it to archives.

 

[TheCuriousOne]

Ok, thanks Owl.

 

[Totoro]

And the fist bump goes to owl.


Its only OK to share information you have actual records of, or credible sources that can be validated.


If you do have any info as such, by all means do share... Others will be as excited to read it as you did.

 

[TheCuriousOne]

Totoro: Sadly, I have never found personal records. I have only been able to verify historical facts. I was asking: If there were no records of "you", but you know deep inside that person existed, would it be right or wrong to add the profile yourself?

 

[Mama2HRB]

No, you need to be able to back up your entries with documentation (not that it stopped anyone from adding 1889 flood victims ... grrr ...)


If you know the name when and where why not try contacting the local library to find out if documentation exists? The reference librarians should be glad to help

 

[Ehrenbreitstein]

Finding verification can take a long time. This isn't an overnight process. It takes a lot of hard work and a lot of time and patience. It took me 10 years to find records but when I did it paid off. People don't seem to realize that past life verification is not easy nor is it something that you can do on a whim and expect results. I'm not saying this is you, but if you are interested, what I am saying is keep searching and eventually it will pay off. Not everything exists on the internet too. You may have to go search physically at places.

 

[Spatz]

rec·ord
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noun: record; plural noun: records


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a thing constituting a piece of evidence about the past, especially an account of an act or occurrence kept in writing or some other permanent form.

"...there are no records for it anywhere. Would it be right to create the record yourself"

No, no no no no no. Making a record, without it actually being recorded, means it's not actually a record. Would you write and submit a scientific paper without citing sources to your data, even if you were quite convinced for yourself that the data was true? Er, I hope not.


Doesn't matter how true the past life feels, there are plenty of places to discuss that sort of material (like here at the forum) but these genealogical record sites exist as archives for a certain kind of data. Further, adding your own data to a historical archive as a validation is not a validation. Just... no. I truly hope no one does this, not even on the principle of it but simply because it does no good to try and 'convince' oneself like this. Skimping on the verification is really just selling oneself short, in the end reincarnation research is for you, 'proving' it to others really does nothing for you if you have to trick yourself into believing it.


Now, ancestry.com and the like aren't the end-all be-all of historic archives and simply because a record does not exist there, doesn't mean the record or the life never existed at all. Anything on the internet is there because someone put it there, if one managed to find record of a past life, perhaps a grave and some court documents, etc., that would be fitting to add since it is verifiable through a valid source which isn't that person just saying "Trust me, it happened." See the issue there?


It's easy to get frustrated, but with some patience a lot of things have a way of working out. Finding some validation for yourself of historical details from your recovered memories is a good start. Several people on the forum have had success recovering and validating names using resources outside of ancestry.com or even any internet database. Methinks some others who've been into it for a while may agree, it's worth the time invested if one really does invest the time. You get out of it what you put in, see?

 

[tanguerra]

Totoro: Sadly, I have never found personal records. I have only been able to verify historical facts. I was asking: If there were no records of "you", but you know deep inside that person existed, would it be right or wrong to add the profile yourself?

Why is it so important Curious? There are millions (billions) of people who never left any record of their existence. What difference does it make?


Just curious.

 

[Totoro]

OK color me curious too.


You say you've seen historical facts but no "profile".


When you say facts, do you mean things that you've been able to verify in history, that are from regressions dreams etc? Like knowing that "you" must have existed at a certain time and place?


And then when you say "profile", do you mean like a Wikipedia page?


If that's the case, then yes, you'd still need some sort of verifiable proof that others can look up for themselves. I hate to say though that I cheated a bit on my own wikipedia page in that I have diary pages i had gotten from my past live's grandson who wouldn't let me publish them without permission. I used them to update the page and referenced them, but they aren't available online, not that I know of. Of course, I did that out of respect for his wishes, but it still makes the material unverifiable by others.


One thing I would recommend doing is starting a blog or a research thread here. I find it very helpful and it also allows others to read what you've written and found without having to be all "official record" about it.


I can also say from experience trying to maintain a Wikipedia page is a competitive pain in the butt. I hate to say I've given up editing mine. Me or someone else will fix it nicely and then someone will come in and rewrite everything and base it off of a movie, which is not really a credible source.


That just goes to show even having an official "profile" isn't what it's cracked up to be.

 

[TheCuriousOne]

Totoro: When I say historical validation, I mean things like clothing styles, important wars, architecture, etc. For instance, earlier I posted about a life as a Scottish peasant. The dress I saw in my mind matched the dresses people wore in that time. I also posted about a nightmare I had involving a hand cranked waterwheel. I was told by tanguerra that cranks were used to unjam waterwheels.


As for why it's important... well, I guess it isn't, but it does offer some closure, doesn't it? Especially if the past life was recent/traumatic, you'd want to know that you're not crazy (no offense). Granted, there are also records with almost no detail (as in, all they say is "John Smith, 1870-1959")

 

[Totoro]

Learning as much as you can and finding validations surely can be a form of closure, validation and many other things.


I was curious I suppose as to what your overall or final goal was, as obviously I wasn't clear of your intentions.


Given what you've found, that's excellent stuff for your own diary page or journal. I would certainly go ahead and do it as it can be therapeutic and your'e absolutely right, findings like those are important. If you have a thread here or somewhere else, it may also help people that are interested in that time period.


I wasn't trying to diminish the validity of your your finds! I hope you didn't feel that way.

 

[Susan]

like Ancestry or Find A Grave?
I do not plan on doing this myself. I'm just asking: Let's say you've discovered a past life, but it happened in, like, the 1600s and there are no records for it anywhere. Would it be right to create the record yourself, or would that be considered "cheating"? (As in, adding it just for the sake of having verification). I personally think it is wrong to do this because it can make the validation feel hollow and artificial, though there are times when I'm so frustrated at not finding "me" that I am tempted to do so. What do you guys think?

I don't mean to discredit anyone else's response, but Ancestry doesn't ask for any documentation whatsoever.

 

[TheCuriousOne]

I'd also like to find documents so I can read about "unremembered" experiences. It's really dissapointing to me when I "run out" of memories and can no longer respond to my own threads.