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Karma theory vs Empiric Science

It has recently occurred to me that what we call Karma may actually be associated with habits that we acquire over successive reincarnations, and that whatever balance we achieve through Karma is actually a function of overcoming some habits while developing better habits through hard work. Instead of an abuser coming back as an abuse victim, an abuser will likely come back as an abuser again and again, therefore, until he or she realizes the pointlessness of their existence and decides to do something to change that behavior. In that way, perhaps, balance is eventually achieved.


I have been studying a somewhat different new theory developed by Rupert Sheldrake called Morphic Resonance, which has also been put forth by physicist Dr. Amit Goswami and several other authors and researchers. Recent research suggests that animal characteristics and even matter can vary depending upon how long a period those characteristics have existed, and the theory suggests that there is an undiscovered force, or habit, that exists in all things, which helps to determine all matter and behavior in our world.


Although standard science ascribes Evolution and DNA as being the primary foundation for life as we know it, all research leading up to this conclusion is based on correlations between the examined condition and other conditions which seem related, but don't necessarily point to actual cause. There is some evidence now that "Habit" may accrue over the course of numerous generations which causes genes to become dominant in much the same way as muscles and motor nerves work after repetitive practice. In the case of bad habits and addictions, this theory offers a more cohesive model not only for addiction and emotional dependency, but also for behavioral science in general, for we already know that addiction-like behaviors may extend well beyond what can be suggested by physical causes, for example the many cases of people who are habitually attracted to abusive relationships or self-destructive behavior.


Where Reincarnation is concerned, anecdotal cases seem to point to similar "habits" which keep on repeating life after life. So, it doesn't seem too far-fetched to suggest that the theory of Morphic Resonance could apply here as well, and could be the "Karma" that so many ancient authors may have been referring to. The romantic Western idea of justice in the next life has never seemed probable to me, especially in light of how so many characteristics are carried over from life to life. It seems more natural to me that we dig our own "grooves" in the record of life until we get tired of going round-and-round, eventually realizing that there is more to life than what we have grown comfortable with, even though our existence with those habits is not at all comfortable, much in the same way that we settle for a bad job, only because it is what we are familiar with. If we allow the groove to get too deep, we have to work harder to climb out of what would otherwise become a spiritual grave. And once we get out of that groove, we would be willing to go to any length to avoid falling back in. Therein, perhaps, is how we might define penance and achieve the balance that is so often considered the definition of Karma.
 
here is an interesting article on karma:


http://www.healer.ch/articlekarma.html


an excerpt:

By looking at the events in our lives, those things that “happen to us,” as being aspects of karma, we have a means of understanding certain things that did not make sense before. We can see a pattern and an order to things, and can release the tensions of misunderstanding that existed before.
We can see that what we know as karma is, at the same time, both totally personal and totally impersonal. It is personal in the sense that it reflects what we as individuals have chosen to do with our individual consciousness, and impersonal in the sense that it functions the same way for everyone. We can see that each of us is, at the same time, living the effects of past karma and building new karma, and sometimes it is difficult to tell which is which.


Since we each create and live our own karma, the idea that we can somehow “take on” the karma of another in any way demonstrates a misunderstanding of the nature of karmic mechanics.


Some healers claim that certain symptoms cannot be healed because they are karmic. These healers are simply at the effects of their own limiting ideas, and exporting their limitations in the form of some cosmic mystery. We believe that anything can be healed. The capacity to achieve this lies within each one of us.


From our point of view, all symptoms are karmic in that they are the effect of what people are doing in their own consciousness. This does not mean that they cannot be healed. If it was our karma to be ill, it can also be our karma to be healed, as was the case with me. If understanding is the purpose of karma, then that is in accord with our description of the relationship between the body and the consciousness.


When we develop a symptom, the symptom exists to give a message to us about some way of being that has been out of balance for us. We do to ourselves literally what we have been doing figuratively.


When we understand the message that our body has been giving and make the necessary adjustments in our way of being, the symptom has no further reason for existing and can be released. It is for this reason, remember, that it is important for us as healers to communicate the inner cause of the outer symptom, as an integral part of the healing.



It is also important for us to remember that we are unlimited in our consciousness, and that any idea that limits us is, by its nature, invalid. We have an unlimited ability to heal anything. If there is some idea that gives us a reason to believe that we do not have the ability to perform this important spiritual service, we can replace this idea with another that gives us the means to go beyond this perceived limit.
I agree that karma is more about our own habits, not punishment or good or bad conduct. It is about what is going on inside of us and how we interact with the world. For this reason having unresolved karma with someone doesn't make any sense.
 
Seems quite close

Nightrain said:
Instead of an abuser coming back as an abuse victim, an abuser will likely come back as an abuser again and again, therefore, until he or she realizes the pointlessness of their existence and decides to do something to change that behavior. In that way, perhaps, balance is eventually achieved.
Hi Nightrain,


The above quote is a great statement. And your idea of habit being related to Karma, deserves serious consideration. And to tell further, to me, it seems quite close to the right path to take up in this thread.


I'm considering it deeply. As the portion of your statement marked green (by me) makes MORE - in fact much more - sense even to the Abuser than its red counterpart where the 'supposed' Abuser had become a victim abruptly. The person could be confused/puzzled/etc (if ever taught this 'red' theory) even if he/she had been the Abuser. There is no transition here!
 
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Great statement

Green26 said:
I agree that karma is more about our own habits, not punishment or good or bad conduct. It is about what is going on inside of us and how we interact with the world. For this reason having unresolved karma with someone doesn't make any sense.
Hi Green26,


Again I would say - as I replied to Nightrain - THAT'S QUITE CLOSE!


Karma should be (& seems to be) more about the INNER world rather than the OUTER world with any someone else!


This idea deserves deep consideration too.
 
A great discussion indeed! Keep going please! Thanks, Alienstyle!


Nightrain, you may start your own true religion soon, if ideas keep "occuring" to you like these! ;)


AKP
 
Thanks AKP!


Your Feedback is inspirational. & I'll indeed try to keep the thread going & even probably, further evolving.


I have even more materials (study materials) from the Indian Culture that Dr Ian Stevenson was not seemingly presented with.


Meanwhile I was busy launching MY WEBSITE.


It's currently an initial compact version, where the Audio & the Video are yet to be prepared. Anyway, there's a Silde Show & 6 Articles currently: the first three on PHILOSOPHY & the last three on PARA-PSYCHOLOGY (Reincarnation).


It has seemed to me that Dr Stevenson was only supplied with the Indian literature on the Mainstream Karma Theory. He visited my country from the early 60s, to the late 90s (as far as I know). But he did not just come in contact with ALL the info about the Karma theory in India. - Maybe the Spiritual Organizations (or their representatives) that Stevenson met with in India, simply offered him the so called mainstream portion & bypassed the OTHER materials.


Anyway, that didn't hamper his research! Because Stevenson proceeded with all the good aspects of the Empiricism, which protected him & the scientific world. It is interesting to see that even with the incomplete databases from the Indian Religion, what he had concluded does definitely seem to be CORRECT.


He finally told something like: after RESEARCH





"We have got evidence of the Reincarnation itself but not of the Karma theory (mainstream karma)."


Currently I'm busy with the refinement work of the Synopsis of a local language Book that I've myself written.


So I'll respond more fully later.
 
VICIOUS CYCLE : for the Abusers


There is a concept of Vicious Cycle in Karma. Algebraically speaking, it can be described as:


x causes y & y in turn causes X


& X again causes Y & Y again in turn causes ...



& so on.



Suppose a parent abuses their child. & the traumatized child then fails in an exam (astonishing the teachers) even in a subject where he/she had always excelled earlier. & the child then returns home, only to get further abused by the same parents.


The re-traumatized child fails next year again. And wonders why could he/she just not 'learn' from the 'past' mistakes? - The 'mistakes' of not being able to control the concentration towards the studies (& avoiding for example watching TV) just when the annual exam approached!


LET US NOW FOCUS ON THE ABUSERS (RATHER THAN THE VICTIM). - Because the victims have long been focused & addressed (& even in many cases cured by the revolutionaries like the friends/relatives/neighbours/therapists/etc). But on the other side of the story, EXPLORATION has been relatively neglected:


What will practically HAPPEN to these parents?


(Not what would happen theoretically according to the so called Karma doctrine or similar other notions.)


These parents have already developed MORE of the same negative habit (thanks to the opportunity 'given by' the child through suffering in the exams). - And there's the catch!


The Abuser's HABIT is not moving with a uniform velocity. It has ACCELERATION.


And what is next expected?


The child may be powerless. Especially in a developing nation. But the UNIVERSE is not.


But what will the UNIVERSE 'do'?


The Universe shall not tolerate acceleration. A limit will arrive.


A certain point is there, in the waiting, that will break the Vicious Cycle. It just depends upon the POINT OF TIME in the Universe when the right conditions will exist. Until these counter-conditions finally come up, the Abusers are not usually likely to REALIZE the pointlessness of their existence. - EXCEPT unless they practice MEDITATION etc, thereby visualizing where the situation is heading to, and then learning to arrest & even reverse the negative habit peacefully on their own.


Unfortunately for the Abusers, such realization happens in many cases (if not most) only when these COUNTERS start existing from outside. Rather than any inside-out, gentle, swift, & glorious approach to the solution.
 
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NON-MAINSTREAM karma theory :


Today, INDIA celebrates the Birthday of Lord Mahavir - another ancient saint in this country - belonging to the Jain Religion. Another religion that believes in Reincarnation & is originated in India.


The Jains have 24 highest Gurus/Heros (called Tirthankars, in their terms, & in the ancient Indian language). And Mahavir is the LATEST, being contemporary to the times of Buddha. (i.e. about 2,500 yrs ago).


The Jainism is an Atheist Philosophy. They deny God as the Creator or Punishment/Reward-maker in the Universe. And the SPECIALTY of their Religion lies in the REINCARNATION research (conceptual research). Like the agnostic Buddha who also didn't believe in any external God.


Anyway, unfortunately in the WESTERN WORLD, the Jainism is far less known a Religion than the Buddhism.


But in modern India - after the Buddhists are driven away to the China, Korea, Japan, & to the Sri Lanka, Burma, Thailand, etc - the % of Jains far overrides that of the Buddhists left.


The Jains are mainly in the Rajasthan & Gujrat states of India. And they are even much more seen in my state (at Calcutta) compared to the extreme minority of the Buddhists here.


The Jainism is UNIQUE in their ELABORATE DESCRIPTION on the Karma theory. And THIS has propagated the much needed NON-MAINSTREAM ideas for the same term 'Karma'.


I would NOW recommend a Wikipage on:


Karma in Jainism.


There are many Indian terms from the contemporary local language. With which however, my vernacular language matches a lot. Anyway, if any problem, learn a few more Indian words along the way.


By some reason, Stevenson just didn't/couldn't come in contact with the Jain Philosophy (to my belief). And because of still little spread of even the word 'Jainism' in the WEST, the main-stream theory of Karma overrides its counterpart in the most of the Globe.


ANYWAY - I CELEBRATED LORD MAHAVIR'S B'DAY, although Jainism is not officially my religion.


And I salute Mahavir for the principles of Penance, Austerity, Hardships, etc etc. :thumbsup:He is one of the Greatest Saints in Ancient India. And just aside the concept of God as defined in Vedanta, He is one of the Peaks of Indian Philosophy. :thumbsup:
 
Karma as a kind of PARTICLE


The Jains view Karma as a kind of PARTICLE.


Which is however not any material/matter of the Physical Sciences (Physics, Chemistry) i.e this 'particle' is neither Mass nor Energy, in the terminology of the Official Science.


Therefore, such a particle can never be seen under any Microscope or something like that.


You may call it META-PARTICLE. Because the whole concept belongs to Metaphysics. Anyway whatever be your own mind's terminology regarding this 'particle' - it doesn't seem to be the Particle of the Physics, Chemistry & Astronomy.


Thus to the Jains, the Philosophical meaning of the Karma is a metaphysical PARTICLE & not just ACTION. (Although the literal meaning of the Indian word is ACTION or WORK.)


But there's a relationship between these two.
 
An Excerpt from the Wikipage: SCIENTIFIC INTERPRETATION


Scientific interpretation


Jain philosopher-monks postulated the existence of karma as subtle and microscopic particles that cannot be perceived by senses, some two millennia before modern science proved the existence of atoms and subatomic particles. However, these and other elementary particles that have been either discovered or postulated cannot be equated with karmic particles.


Some authors have sought to explain the concept of karmic particles in the context of modern science and physics.




Hermann Kuhn points out that,

although the idea of "karmic particles" is not yet proven, one only needs to recall that science found proof of the existence of molecules and atoms only the 19th and 20th century. Anyone who would have suggested that these "indivisible" particles were made up of even subtler units like quarks and leptons only a hundred years ago may have been dismissed, though such theories were in existence.
With regards to interaction of consciousness and karmic matter, he further states that,

it can be easily understood considering that ideas like the mind fundamentally affecting matter are now accepted in scientific circles.
While admitting that though science has not discovered karmic matter yet, he is of opinion that

it does not state anything against its existence.
My Notes:-


The Jains' TERMINOLOGY is very unique. The words like Karmic MATTER/MATERIAL/DIRT/SUBSTANCE/etc should NOT be taken in the sense of the Modern Times or - even - to tell further - Hindu Philosophy.


This person Hermann Kuhn has - in my opinion - DEEPLY studied Jainism.
 
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Hermann Kuhn's BOOK: (on Mechanism-based Karma)


It is curious to note that there are just 2 reviews till date even in the highly popular website Amazon.com, regarding Hermann Kuhn's Book (2001) on the Non-mainstream Karma theory. In my opinion, it is reflective of relatively the little spread of Jainism in the West.


But meanwhile, it may be also curious to see that both the reviewers have assigned '5 star' grade to the Book.


It is named: (see the hyperlink to the Amazon page too)


Karma The Mechanism
 
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Like the number 'i' = Square Root of '-1' ?


The idea that Karma exists as a 'particle' seemingly tempts some of us to conceive it in terms of Physics. Just because one microscopic particle after another (or one further minute particle after another) is being discovered, doesn't necessarily mean that the Karma particle - or the 'Jain particle' as it were - can be directly tapped one day, say 1000 years later! No extrapolation may be valid.


When I studied Algebra in the high school, I saw that even '-1' was said to be have a square root. But in middle school Algebra, we learnt that '+1' = (+1) x (+1) & also (-1) x (-1) = '+1' thus '+1' had two such roots but that, no number multiplied by itself could give rise to the 'minus one'.


Anyway then in higher Algebra, an imaginary number 'i' was proposed such that:

i x i = -1




Maybe this is because - arithmetically, such a number 'i' can never exist; but geometrically or otherwise, the concept of '-1' could correspond to the measurement of some selected square areas.


So, 'i' became the much needed Square Root of the MINUS ONE. And this

i = square root of '-1'




was also called 'Complex Number', to distinguish it radically from the other numbers known hitherto. It is also claimed that the assumption of the complex number has resolved many tough Mathematical or other practical problems.


The Jainism's particle concept in Karma may also be indirectly dealt with, likewise. It may be better conceived through the Circumstantial Evidences instead.
 
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REVERSE TERMINOLOGY : in Karma theory


The Jain Philosophy uses a 'reverse terminolgy' compared to BOTH the Western Culture & the Hinduism.


The Jainism views the word 'Passion' as, rather, a NEGATIVE emotion!


This would outright puzzle the most Western people e.g. the Psychotherapists, Financial Gurus, Wellbeing Experts, etc. Because in the modern times, the term passion is getting increasingly popular and considered as a highly POSITIVE emotion instead, as far as my understanding goes at the moment. - So the change in viewpoint is diametrically opposite.


The Jain Philosophers even use the Indian term 'Yoga' in exactly the reverse meaning compared to its original concept in Hinduism!





The Hindu Philosophy originally meant by this word: ABSENSE OF ANY CONSCIOUS ACTIVITY (including even thinking). - But the Jains define 'Yoga' as: PRESENCE OF THE ABOVE i.e.


# Thought


# Speech


# Deed (physical actions)


Thus the Hinduism originally means: the Yoga avoids Karma. But in the Jain terminology, the SAME concept is expressed in the reverse sentence: the Yoga invites Karma.


I believe such variations in the viewpoints, terminology & philosophy - all over the world - will not be confusing in the long run. Rather, it is very much healthy potentially.


Had there not been such amazing variation from culture to culture, even in the same country, the people would not have got the opportunity to exercise more open-mindedness, more mental muscles, and a more synthetic journey.
 
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Now thought on this thread I would post what a friend said to me recently after I had my Past Life Regression last week. In the Past Life Regression I saw one life where I had been a white fur trapper killed by the Indians and then in the next life, an Indian killed by the whiteman.


Since this is a thread dealing with Karma, this is what a really good friend said after the regression to me but in a different way with not saying the word Karma. Take it for whatever it might be worth.


" .... it is interesting that when you were an indian whites killed you and when you were white indians killed you - kinda like when I was a roman I killed celts and when I was a celt I killed romans - I enjoyed both but God loves balance so I had to be born to both cultures ..... "


This in what my friend said does make me wonder. Yes do think God indeed loves balance in what my friend said.
 
kmatjhwy said:
Since this is a thread dealing with Karma, this is what a really good friend said after the regression to me but in a different way with not saying the word Karma.
This however is just not a 'balance' as far as the Individuality (i.e. a given soul) is concerned. It may rather show the symmetry in terms of a Political balance. Or something like that. In other words, such a discussion may belong more to the topics like the POLITICS/SPORTS/etc than the subject of SPIRITUALITY. - And your friend seems to have been wise enough in NOT using here the word Karma, as it is used today.


Suppose in a Chess match: X having white pieces beats Y in game one, and then in the next game, X again beats Y but this time with the black pieces instead. That is, from the other side of the board. - What does this mean?


Could Y take the revenge? Was X neutralized?



No.



But X has won with both White & Black. So the only balance established is among the chess pieces and not the players. (Both colours have won one game each in the match.) But the chess pieces are inert things or just concepts. While the players are living beings.



 
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How the Karma returns?


It doesn't take a Rocket scientist or a certain Expert to help conclude that the World is NOT 1:1. People may like the Balance e.g. they may want a Criminal or an Abuser to get punished. But does it happen in a STRAIGHT line? - Not always. - Maybe not even often.


Another question is that, whether the return (reward or punishment) EVER comes? Some people say they do come over the next incarnations. BUT HOW?


A further question is that, if I myself punish a criminal (let me assume for a while that I'm a Police in this life) - or ditch an Abuser on behalf of the victim (let me assume for a moment that I'm a Psychiatrist in this incarnation) - then will I, in turn, get the return of this 'bad' karma in my next life?


There was once a relaxed evening in my neighbourhood in India, when I got involved in such an intricate discussion. Perhaps then electricity went out, as far as I remember, and the sky seemed even darker. We were (about 4 to 5 people) then sitting in the bench & chairs in a lawn-like area near the road. The street was calm too.


I had then just finished my first study on the Jain Karma theory. (Via Wikipedia.) Although being an Indian I knew many other things about the Jains for a long time. And when I started quoting these new concepts that I had just learnt, I also realized they were also new to it like me, although they were Indians too and knew about the Jains for a long time.


They felt curious when I described the Particle theory of Karma just learnt. About just a month or so ago. (Paradoxically from the Internet, and not from any hard copies e.g. the books available in my locality.)


I told them, something like:


We can't always see the return in 1:1 format (tit for tat every time) as the concept of Karma is actually of some particles! Which are metaphysical like the soul. If you commit a crime or abuse a person verbally, then EVEN if you escape the Police forces or any other counter attack upfront, you still haven't escaped ONE thing. And that is: these particles. They cling to your Soul.


And you will be inclined to do MORE of such activity thanks to them. (Not thanks to any weakness in the Government's Law & Order, but thanks to these metaphysical particles sticking to your soul.) The particles will again tempt you even if the Government becomes stronger. They don't understand the strength of the Administration, they just create in you a tendency to do the same action once again. Unless these extra-sensory particles are shredded out, you can't stop the tendency PERMANENTLY.


So what usually happens is that, you go on performing another crime or abuse, to maybe another victim (or the same victim) until your opponent - or the environment - OVERPOWERS you. That is the Balance. It takes its own time.


Everyone there supported THIS concept. They replied like:


Yes, yes, this is the truth. It is really not in straight line. You may not get punished instantly.


A further point is that the more the occasions you escape, the more intense the tendency develops. BECAUSE - ACCORDING TO JAINISM - THE MORE PARTICLES YOU COLLECT EACH TIME.


And these particles, if not cleared in this life, remain with the soul, become a part of the mind or memory, and enters into the reincarnated body.


They finally opined that if you are forced to punish someone, as Krishna did in the battle of Mahabharat, it becomes a true duty and then there will be the question of no return - no further tendency arising - and there will be no Karma particles collected. For example, it means Krishna was free from these particles. So also is Arjun & other warriors working under Him.:cool
 
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When does Karma MANIFEST ?


According to Jainism, Karma - - both bad & good - - is bound to manifest WHEN THE RIGHT CONDITIONS EXIST. And no one can escape the results, at that time.


Let us consider a good case now. Suppose:


I've written a good Book over several years, say from 2005. And after finishing the manuscript in 2010, I became ecstatic. Natural. It's not ego. (Not everything in the world is ego.) I started thinking "Good attracts good, so I must get a good publisher upfront." But since I wrote in the local language, I contacted a local Publisher.


But..say...I live in such a country where the Local Publishers don't publish any deep Non-fiction except say memoirs etc (& my Book belongs to Science topic). And I didn't know it earlier. No one in my country guided me beforehand about it.


I telephoned a top Publisher. He asked the topic. And as soon as told that it is on Science, he replies: "I'm not taking ANY new work now."!!


Is all Karma finished? Is the road to traditional publishing blocked? - But Jainism says EVERY karma is stored as subtle particles, creating more tendency, until it manifests. And it manifests only when the 'right conditions' exist.


What are those conditions, in general? They may well be:


1. The Culture of the country you live in


2. The Economic or Political situation in your country



3. Climate



4. Natural Disaster



5. Other Environmental Factors



6. etc.



And Jainism also says that, Past Life should not be blamed everywhere. Such a negative (no result) situation is there called Pseudo-karma. That is, it appears to be the result of a Past-Life (bad) Karma while it is not.


These are rather some external/random/accidental factors in the present life. And they may be removed as time passes by. The Local Publishers may suddenly find interest with the more growth of globalization & other changes.


So again, things are not 1:1. Like the many bad cases of karma. Where the criminals/abusers/etc are punished only when Police or other Environmental change comes into play.
 
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Pseudo-Karma


This concept is explicitly stated in the Jain philosphy. The Jain scholars/monks, even after Lord Mahavir's time (about 2500 years ago), went on further working on the Karma theory throughout several centuries. They developed many details and elaborated on it. And to tell further, they even documented it in writings.


Instead of interpreting the Karma as a 'vice versa' statement , the Jainism reportedly - - i.e. in their writings - - incorporated the term Pseudo-karma to gave an alert that not every 'result' is due to the Karma. So that the Mankind doesn't feel frustrated or confused or etc, with the original idea in the concept.


In other words, the following 2 popular statements have to be thus used with the following two cautions (in brackets):


1. As you sow, so you reap. (But what you reap, is NOT NECESSARILY what you had sewn.)


2. What goes around, comes around. (But what comes around, is NOT NECESSARILY what went around.)


But unfortunately the mainstream Karma theory - - propagated by some Westerners, some Buddhists, and even some Hindus (who claim they are truly following Lord Krishna's opinion whom the Hindus believe to have been God Himself on earth) & other people - - projects it as a simplistic, reversible, both-way concept.


The Jain literature, on the other hand, went on describing even several of the FILTERS through which we could separate which effects are due to Karma & which effects are NOT, although the factors are sometimes 'hard to determine'. These are:


# Home


# Book



# School



# Temple



# Climate



# Country's Economic condition



# Country's Political condition



# Accidents



# Random events e.g. traffic jam



For examples:

  • A student performs brilliantly in the exam hall, but the teacher while reviewing the papers was not in the 'mood' and judged him with lower values
  • A person was sure to succeed in a Job interview - but he lost it because he couldn't attend the venue in time due to unexpected traffic jam in the road
  • a mass natural disaster (e.g. Tsunami) - were all people similarly poised with bad karma? - seems least likely (statistically)!
  • A buisnessman makes a profit or loss due to the unexpected economic growth or recession in the Country
  • A person attains a short-run income using a shrewd or dishonest policy


The mainstream Karma advocates might however still try to defend their own stance using the Past-lives concept. But it is also worth noting that Jainism also believes in Reincarnation. And yet, they separate out these external/environmental factors as the PSEUDO-KARMA.


Which is actually NON-KARMA i.e. no karma at all.


Neither of this life, nor even of previous lives.


Thus Jainism at last, by their more elaborate literature, offers a more realistic chance for the Empiric Science to test the Karma theory. This philosophy reportedly separates out the real wave of ideas from the Mainstream Karma theory. And in doing so, it simplifies the domain for the scientific research on it. The Scientists could now filter out the real results to be tested while track-backing to the past.
 
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alienstyle said:
1. As you sow, so you reap. (But what you reap, is NOT NECESSARILY what you had sewn)


2. What goes around, comes around. (But what comes around, is NOT NECESSARILY what went around.)
This brings to mind the current philosophy of Existentialism, which states that all actions—whether by conscious intention or accidents of nature—have effects which cannot necessarily be traced to their origins. The flapping of a butterflies wings can be the root cause that eventually brings about a hurricane elsewhere.


In science there is a theory that all electrons each possess a unique frequency of spin that cannot be duplicated anywhere else in the universe; and if we manage to change the frequency of one electron here on earth, all other electrons must change accordingly. So, if we simply heat up a meal in our kitchen, we are immediately affecting all other electrons in the universe.


When we consider the statement "What goes around, comes around", we tend to rationalize that good intentions and good actions should bring about morally good results, which we realize isn't necessarily true. A medical doctor, for example may save the life of someone who later becomes a mass murderer.


In the same manner we tend to rationalize that Karma works in the same simple manner as good intentions—that good actions bring about good Karma. We tend to believe that Karma implies justice and moral balance, that evil will be dealt to evil people and that good fortune will be given to the meek in their next life. Given the models proposed by Existentialism and Quantum Mechanics, however, one has to wonder if there really is a constructive moral aspect to Karma, or whether it is merely nothing more than chaotic probabilities.
 
Inverters & counter-inverters


I call these factors INVERTERS. They are not karma at all. But they reverse the potential effect of a Karma (which literary means: Action). If someone gets a Government job without sufficient preparation in the relevant field, but only thanks to a Political party in the country, then it is not due to his/her action in that profession, but rather due to the Political back-up organized by other persons. Such external factor inverts the potential result. Likewise the person not getting a job because of not being able to attend the Interview in time due to accidental traffic congestion, has also not done any bad karma.


These inverters make it look like they are responsible for their success or failure respectively, while they are not. Thus the original wave of the weak or strong karma is reversed by just another wave in the Universe.


But what if yet another wave joins the fray - say such an external wave that runs in the direction of the original karma this time?? It could reverse the original INVERTER thus re-establishing the karma.


The resultant of these three waves might yield the result of the karma, finally. If such a factor arises, then I call it COUNTER-INVERTER. It is interesting to note that it is also not a Karma in itself. But it will bring (or rather help to bring) the result of the karma.


In the long run, the effects of the INVERTERS & COUNTER-INVERTERS may neutralize each other. And then this Karma may manifest.
 
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