Karmic Contracts, Maybe

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

After several past-life regressions, I've come to the conclusion that a previous life that was more than 4000 years ago is affecting my current life. I've posted here about this a few years ago, this was my post about it: https://reincarnationforum.com/threads/i-have-hit-reincarnation-rock-bottom.9146/ However, I don't have access to that account nor I do I know how to prove that I'm the one who wrote that.

Since I wrote that, I've made some improvements to my life but this is still my worst life when I judge it by my level of happiness and life satisfaction. My best lifetime, being judged by my level of happiness and life satisfaction was the life where I was an ancient king. I had everything going for me in that lifetime I can only wish I had now.

Anyway, I've had several past life regressions and they all go back to the lifetime as an ancient king and focus on that one. As far as the rest of my lives go, I can name who I was in only one other lifetime, the one that came to an untimely end on 3 April 1974. I absolutely hate recalling that lifetime in past life regressions. I don't even want to visit or go near the city in Kentucky where I died in that lifetime. When the Weather Channel discusses that event and names that city, I can't handle it and I change the channel. I've learned very little about any other previous life.

My recent past life regression, which was during a dark time for me, revealed more information about my life as an ancient king. Whenever I view that life, I feel the enjoyment and love of life that he had, something I'm lacking in this lifetime. I see the world and his time through his eyes and I feel his feelings. However, there are some problems. According to the Bible, I was one of the bad guys. When I view that lifetime, I see things through his point-of-view and from his point-of-view, he didn't see things the way the Bible tells the story. Also, I'll never say who I was. I'm kind of embarrassed by it TBH. I wonder if that's the origin of a lot of my karma.

I've gotten quite a bit of detail about the king I once was including his date of birth, height and weight. However, past life regressions won't convert the calendar date that was used at the time into our current calendar. I can't pin it exactly to anything, but this is still important to me because I can get a numerological comparison between that life and this life.

My current life:
life path 8
attitude number 3
birthday number 8

My life as the ancient king:
life path 2 (master number 11)
attitude number 7
birthday number 2

This gives me quite a bit of insight into what I had in that lifetime that I don't have now.

My recent regression revealed a problem with that lifetime that may affect this one, namely the people in it. I had two sons in that lifetime and they were both problem children. The older was constantly scheming and conniving to undermine me and colluded with the enemies of my city-state. He wanted power for himself. The younger also thought he should be in charge and he knew better. The problem was he just wasn't that smart. After I had that regression, the modern-day comparison that came to mind was Fredo Corleone.

We're not the same people or personalities we were in our previous lives but my two sons from that lifetime also reincarnated into this lifetime. One of them is now my dad, the other my grandmother. In this lifetime, I've blamed just about everything on them. I've written about my grandmother already. If my dad wanted me to have a difficult, unsuccessful life, I don't know what he could've done any differently. I know parents don't intentionally try to screw up their children, but my dad and my maternal grandmother really made me wonder about that. Now it seems like they've been waiting 4000 years or so to get back at me! My dad and my maternal grandmother were peas in a pod of dysfunction. They even got along better with each other than they did with my mom. They understood each other and they spoke each other's language even though nobody else could understand them.

I must have some sort of karmic contract that needs to be fulfilled so I don't have to repeat this again.

 

[GalaxyDreamer90]

Not entirely sure I believe in karma but can kind of relate to your post as I'm finding out through intuitive feelings that in most if not all of my lifetimes I was some kind of leader. The only one I can remember though is from regression. I was a young woman in the forest. I don't remember much but can remember feeling happy. Part of me wishes for that happiness again.

 

[cloud potato]

Good morning! What is written, for history's sake, isn't necessarily the truth. I admire your post here and want to welcome you to the forum. I will speak on my experiences, maybe you'll feel less embarrassed or less whacky? I believe in the Peacock Angel... This Being is King of the Earth. This Being has also been vilified by religious sects as belonging to the devil. My experience says that's a lot of mans doing. Just look at todays political climate to see how the truth and vilification get all mixed together. It's not that tasty of a soup, is it?

I find the timing fascinating, as I am yearning to grow closer to this androgynous King- Union. And still more, a member of another forum had a dream, a very stirring dream, about Kings and the abyss. I believe this message is coming to us at the micro-level, like cosmic waves of celestial influence. I'm having dreams at the moment where a Being named Azazel is helping me. I looked Azazel up yesterday and there seems to be a lot of this vilification/bad guy crap being thrown into the mix. A lot of dogmatic rituals and blame.

But that's enough about me... I just wanted to share a little bit of my own, maybe you'd feel welcome to share more of yours. = )

In either sense, I am getting the feeling on some level you wanted to know what it was like on the other side of the story. Surely you had love for your sons? Your right as a king is to endeavor in this life and secure the same sense of love and satisfaction you once had. Can it be had without all the material and earthly status? But it does not surprise me to read of the shoe on the other foot. Any king worth his weight in gold knows as well how to be a servant. That's just my opinion. But maybe you disagree.

There's still a chance to reclaim the present incarnation as a kingly one. I believe the true nature of the Soul is King. You, having been born again, have experienced life after life. There may be some answers yet to discover as it relates to your Dad and Grandmother. The suffering is memorable and causing you to look within. That's what matters.

I also admire your username, and bow with gratitude for your appearance. Thank you.
We are blessed.

~CP

 

[SeaAndSky]

My recent past life reincarnation, which was during a dark time for me, revealed more information about my life as an ancient king. Whenever I view that life, I feel the enjoyment and love of life that he had, something I'm lacking in this lifetime. I see the world and his time through his eyes and I feel his feelings. However, there are some problems. According to the Bible, I was one of the bad guys. When I view that lifetime, I see things through his point-of-view and from his point-of-view, he didn't see things the way the Bible tells the story. Also, I'll never say who I was. I'm kind of embarrassed by it TBH. I wonder if that's the origin of a lot of my karma.

Hi Ancient Times,

I am very interested in knowing your side of the story vs. the Bible account. As a matter of fact, that is the primary reason that I have responded. And, I don't think there is any reason to withhold your PL identity and this information.

People who claim famous past lives are sometimes viewed with a degree of suspicion, but that is because others sometimes suspect they are seeking to glorify themselves in doing so. The most suspicion seems (IMO) to be generated by claimed PLs that are well-known and recent, movie stars and such. After that, well-known names from the more distant past such as "Caesar" can sometimes generate distrust. However, an ancient king of a city-state pre-dating most of recorded history, will be an extremely obscure personage to most--even if mentioned in the Bible (a book that most are not that familiar with in the current era).

You allude to a PL that would not be known to most, would probably be viewed negatively by those who know it, and seems unlikely to make you any more important in anyone's eyes. I am as suspicious as anyone here, but this background does not make me suspicious of deliberate falsification, self-aggrandizement or even self-delusion on your part. So, I don't think you have anything you should be concerned about in terms of this board (we're pretty open-minded folks anyway). And, as noted, I really, really, really would like to hear your side of the story, so I can compare it to the Biblical account. It also might help in understanding your dilemma. So, . . . ?

Cordially,
S&S

 

[There and back again]

There is really two ways of looking at Karma one is an social credit system meant to really enslave souls while in the day to day is just crabs in the bucket. As for the frustrations and the general sense of lack is something a lot of us live with particularly in the disposable generations (millennials and zoomers) being left holding the bag for society. Anyway the Bible we have today is an heavily edited and shorten document with 72 books having either been removed or never included in the first place while much more never having been written down.

Here is something that will make most uncomfortable if not angry but an fresh take to ponder.

 

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

Hi Ancient Times,

I am very interested in knowing your side of the story vs. the Bible account. As a matter of fact, that is the primary reason that I have responded. And, I don't think there is any reason to withhold your PL identity and this information.

People who claim famous past lives are sometimes viewed with a degree of suspicion, but that is because others sometimes suspect they are seeking to glorify themselves in doing so. The most suspicion seems (IMO) to be generated by claimed PLs that are well-known and recent, movie stars and such. After that, well-known names from the more distant past such as "Caesar" can sometimes generate distrust. However, an ancient king of a city-state pre-dating most of recorded history, will be an extremely obscure personage to most--even if mentioned in the Bible (a book that most are not that familiar with in the current era).

You allude to a PL that would not be known to most, would probably be viewed negatively by those who know it, and seems unlikely to make you any more important in anyone's eyes. I am as suspicious as anyone here, but this background does not make me suspicious of deliberate falsification, self-aggrandizement or even self-delusion on your part. So, I don't think you have anything you should be concerned about in terms of this board (we're pretty open-minded folks anyway). And, as noted, I really, really, really would like to hear your side of the story, so I can compare it to the Biblical account. It also might help in understanding your dilemma. So, . . . ?

Cordially,
S&S

I'm still not ready to reveal my previous identity. For me, these past live regressions deal mostly with the personal life issues I had in that life and in this life. The small events I'm able to view in the life of the king are the more mundane things that give me a strong connection to him on the personal level.

I suppose if I write about this enough times, people might be able to figure out who my regressions show me I was. I'll be as vague as possible but still try to answer the question about how my view tells a different story than the Bible.

Here's what I will say about the Bible stories as viewed through the lens of my past life regressions of the king. They're not entirely untrue, but other parts of the Biblical accounts would make my previous self wonder what the writers were talking about.

I'll start off by reacting to some of these stories from my point of view and this will be the part where information that comes from past life regressions would have historians and biblical scholars reaching for the antacid.

I got to be king by being tall, in excellent shape and excelling academically. In my city-state, it wasn't passed down by bloodline. The previous king was near the end of his life so I was in the right place at the right time. I was 3¹⁸⁄₃₀ cubits tall, weighed 2³⁷⁄₆₀ talents and that was all muscle, no fat. I looked good, at least that's what I believed about myself. I was also the top student in the academy. Back then, graduating from school in your mid-teens was the equivalent of an advanced college degree now. Also, while I was vertically gifted, I was pretty much one of the tallest people around. In none of my past life regressions about that lifetime did I see giants walking around. My wife in that lifetime, whom I adored and it kills me that she didn't reincarnate into my current lifetime, was 3³⁄₃₀ cubits tall. She was about the average height for a woman so still, no giants in the land.

History was one of the subjects I studied and this is entirely from my regressions and seeing things through his eyes. By that lifetime, the flood in Genesis / The Epic of Gilgamesh was already a historical event.

The story in the Bible: The people were wicked, they were the result of fallen angels mating with human women and God told Noah he was going to destroy the world with a flood and start all over it again.

What my previous self was told in history class: A comet appeared in the sky and got closer. It appeared that the tail of the comet was going to come out of the sky and when it did, that's when the deluge began. Again, this is what my previous self learned and believed. I don't know if that's historically accurate or not. I can only say what my previous self believed about world events. If someone would've told him fallen angels were mating with human women, he would probably have no idea what you were talking about. However, in that time people dreaded comets.

In the Bible: I was a wicked king and God judged me.

My point of view: I lost a war which was ongoing for years. This was entirely between another king who wanted to conquer the entire land versus my allies and me. From my point of view, there wasn't a deity involved in any way.

In the Bible: My people were wicked.

My point of view: Again, if the previous me would've read the parts about angels, fallen angels, a deity speaking to people and judging people, he would probably wonder what the writers were talking about.

About the wickedness, I can't defend some of the things I as the king allowed in that lifetime. I can't defend in this lifetime how I, in that lifetime, allowed slavery. That was the norm back then and it was a blindspot for me in my previous life. The morality of it never entered my mind in that life. It was something that was always there. There were other aspects of my culture which the current me also can't defend or excuse away.

There is nothing from any of my past life regressions about that lifetime that suggest that I, or anyone who had contact with me (prophets), had interactions with supernatural beings or deities in any way, shape or form.

 

[Eva1942]

Well, I guess you're not the only King who is mentioned in the bible. My PL life as the Pharaoh of the Exodus (Ramesses II), is also a touchy subject for me. I cannot read the book of Exodus because it triggers me too much back to that time. I still have aspects of that life that influence me now.

As the old saying goes... "The past cannot hurt us unless we let it.". However for those of us who have been doing PL exploration for some years now, even decades, we know this a load of psssfft. There are certain pieces from the past that we bring back and let them hurt us, because we need to heal the hurt.

Our past selves learn from our current selves, and our current self learns from our past selves. It is all but a mystery to others, but to us? We are the truth seekers, the pioneers and the ones who strive for peace not just within our current selves, but within our past selves.

We shall get there,
All the best, Eva x

 

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

Well, I guess you're not the only King who is mentioned in the bible. My PL life as the Pharaoh of the Exodus (Ramesses II), is also a touchy subject for me. I cannot read the book of Exodus because it triggers me too much back to that time. I still have aspects of that life that influence me now.

I totally relate to this. The Bible doesn't trigger me that much because I was an obscure, not well-known character but I keep wanting to scream "It didn't happen that way!"

 

[SeaAndSky]

I totally relate to this. The Bible doesn't trigger me that much because I was an obscure, not well-known character but I keep wanting to scream "It didn't happen that way!"

Hi Ancient Times,

We might be screaming with you if we had more information.

Seriously, with all of the horrors and monsters of history, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Still, it is your choice, and I respect your wish to keep silence. Nonetheless, I may throw a guess or two in your direction after I have had more chance to research the topic (which you will also be free to ignore).

Cordially,
S&S

 

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

Good morning! What is written, for history's sake, isn't necessarily the truth. I admire your post here and want to welcome you to the forum. I will speak on my experiences, maybe you'll feel less embarrassed or less whacky? I believe in the Peacock Angel... This Being is King of the Earth. This Being has also been vilified by religious sects as belonging to the devil. My experience says that's a lot of mans doing. Just look at todays political climate to see how the truth and vilification get all mixed together. It's not that tasty of a soup, is it?

I find the timing fascinating, as I am yearning to grow closer to this androgynous King- Union. And still more, a member of another forum had a dream, a very stirring dream, about Kings and the abyss. I believe this message is coming to us at the micro-level, like cosmic waves of celestial influence. I'm having dreams at the moment where a Being named Azazel is helping me. I looked Azazel up yesterday and there seems to be a lot of this vilification/bad guy crap being thrown into the mix. A lot of dogmatic rituals and blame.

But that's enough about me... I just wanted to share a little bit of my own, maybe you'd feel welcome to share more of yours. = )

In either sense, I am getting the feeling on some level you wanted to know what it was like on the other side of the story. Surely you had love for your sons? Your right as a king is to endeavor in this life and secure the same sense of love and satisfaction you once had. Can it be had without all the material and earthly status? But it does not surprise me to read of the shoe on the other foot. Any king worth his weight in gold knows as well how to be a servant. That's just my opinion. But maybe you disagree.

There's still a chance to reclaim the present incarnation as a kingly one. I believe the true nature of the Soul is King. You, having been born again, have experienced life after life. There may be some answers yet to discover as it relates to your Dad and Grandmother. The suffering is memorable and causing you to look within. That's what matters.

I also admire your username, and bow with gratitude for your appearance. Thank you.
We are blessed.

~CP

I loved my sons in that lifetime. I love my dad and I loved my grandmother in this time but in this lifetime, as in the previous life as king, I hated the way they acted. The shoe was on the other foot as my life is in many ways an opposite of that life. I was once a king, now in this lifetime I have a general feeling of powerlessness which is a long way from my life as a king. I remember my grandmother saying all of the time "We just can't let him [me] have his way." Letting me do something I wanted to do was somehow always a bad thing. She ruled with an iron fist.

My other son in that lifetime who's now my father also wanted to be in charge. He thought he could do a better a job. He also got what he wanted in that lifetime in this lifetime. He got what he wanted all of the time by having an explosive temper, always screaming and yelling. The end result was bad for him. He had no retirement savings and when his mother died he had no place to go. Until her death, he lived with her and screamed and yelled at her every day. When she died, he wanted to move in with me. I said no.

I still love both of them. My grandmother died a few years ago. She had a tragic life so I hope she has a better one next time. I hope my dad learned his karmic lessons in this lifetime so he gets a better life next time.

 

[cloud potato]

I don't have much to say with words at the moment. But I didn't want to just give you a thumbs up with the like button. If there were an option for a heart, it'd be better. So, this is my attempt at showing heart towards your journey. I join you in your hopes for your Grandmother and your Father.

Recognizing behavior you don't wish to adopt and creating the space for you to live your life, these are positive signs. Don't give up the fight, I believe there's more to discover.

I wish you happiness and success in this life.

 

[baro-san]

I wish you happiness and success in this life

That's a nice wish
It would be nice if we knew what "success" really means, from the perspective from which we came here.

 

[Eva1942]

I totally relate to this. The Bible doesn't trigger me that much because I was an obscure, not well-known character but I keep wanting to scream "It didn't happen that way!"

Indeed! My husband is a Theologian and every time he brings up the book of Exodus, I really just want to tell him to get knotted, because in essence, I was merely following my father's rule because what else was I supposed to do? Also, the fact that I had over 100 children and was a man whore was merely on account that in my Queen Nefertiti lifetime, I let the Dynasty die out (unintentionally of course), and as Pharaoh, it was that same fear that drove me to having over 100 children, therefore the Dynasty continued long after I died as Pharaoh.

I can't watch the ten Commandments film. However, when I was a kid I tried to watch 'Prince of Egypt', but I cried and turned it off when Moses gets rescued from the Nile in the basket. That lifetime still hurts me today even though it was all the way back in the 18th Dynasty of the Middle Kingdom. So I honestly am not surprised that you feel the way you do.

Scholars have reported that events in the Bible did not happen the way they are depicted. I for one know that the Exodus happened in quite the dramatic and well... vicious nature, and what is written seems so black and white, but it wasn't at all. Time is merely but a linear concept, and even though these events to happened to both me and you in our Royal ways happened thousands of years ago, in the grand scheme of things, they are still VERY relevant to our soul's progression and healing.

Regardless of whether we were an obscure King or not in the Bible, I feel that deep down the truth must be known.

Eva x

 

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

Not entirely sure I believe in karma but can kind of relate to your post as I'm finding out through intuitive feelings that in most if not all of my lifetimes I was some kind of leader. The only one I can remember though is from regression. I was a young woman in the forest. I don't remember much but can remember feeling happy. Part of me wishes for that happiness again.

I fully believe in karma. I think I had the book of karma thrown at me in this lifetime.

 

[baro-san]

I believe karma is a misinterpretation of how reality works. One's current situation is determined only by their own current beliefs and needs for evolvement. In no way it is a punishment, and it isn't imposed on us.

On the other hand, we chose the current circumstances to incarnate in (historical time, geographical point, probable reality, identity) that we deemed best for working on our chosen purposes. This means that there is a bias in whatever happens in our lives, that was chosen, not imposed, before our physical birth. But this isn't in terms of whatever is generally understood as "karma", it isn't caused by past deeds, and whatever challenges we face now we believed before incarnation that we'll be able to handle successfully, and overwhelmingly we do, even if this isn't obvious to us.

EDIT: The challenges you face are meant to offer you a framework to fulfil your potential as decided pre-birth; they are a means to an end, different from just having to deal with them. This doesn't mean that life is predetermined, but that there are probabilities and nudges, and that we are guided along it, even if not consciously aware.

 

[AncientTimesNostalgiaCafe]

I believe karma is a misinterpretation of how reality works. One's current situation is determined only by their own current beliefs and needs for evolvement. In no way it is a punishment, and it isn't imposed on us.

On the other hand, we chose the current circumstances to incarnate in (historical time, geographical point, probable reality, identity) that we deemed best for working on our chosen purposes.

EDIT: The challenges you face are meant to offer you a framework to fulfill your potential as decided pre-birth; they are a means to an end, different from just having to deal with them.

I know what I’m supposed to accomplish in this lifetime but I still wonder why I chose the life circumstances I chose.

What I believe I’m supposed to do in this lifetimes on my worst days: Make it through this lifetime naturally and hope for a better next life next time.

What I’m actually supposed to do based on numerology, astrology and what mediums told me: Be self-employed, independent and financially secure. I’m not there yet. When I’m done posting here, I’ll spend the next few hours working on that.

I wonder then how having the dad and grandmother I had helped to me to accomplish this any way. My dad was a walking financial disaster, hopping from low-paying job to low-paying job, filing for bankruptcy twice and maxed out credit cards. If anything he was an example of what not to do and because of that financial security is extremely important to me. My car’s paid off and I pay my credit cards off monthly. My grandmother had messed up priorities and she passed those on to me in the form of very unhelpful obsessions.

I wonder if there might be different explanation. The time between my previous death and the day I was born in this lifetime was 3 years and two weeks. Every medium I’ve seen for past life regressions said that was a huge mistake. I shouldn’t have reincarnated so quickly.

I’m trying to get this lifetime figured out. My soul seems to chosen hard mode for some reason.

 

[baro-san]

I recall, several years ago, reading / hearing somebody's explanation that "karma" is generally misunderstood, especially by Westerners.

His interpretation was that "karma", which actually means "activity, action", is created by the action according to its effect, independently of the subject's intention. It sounded original enough to make me ponder on it a little, and get it stuck in my memory.

That goes against most definitions and interpretations, which rely on linear time, cause-effect, and other such postulates.

If we drop those postulates, and assume other hypotheses like: "everyone creates his own reality", "the present is the point of power from which both the past and the futures are created", "your beliefs, emotions, expectations attract in your experience situations that will cause the same kind of emotions", "everything is connected at non-physical level", ... then you are responsible for the effects of your actions, even when you didn't intend those effects.

Even with no express intention, effects caused by one's ignorance have to matter, or there wouldn't be any incentive to overcome it.