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Male and Female Brains

Most of the conversation so far on this thread (as usual) seems to focus on gender as it is expressed in the physical, and why it is tied--as sex--to the physical and is therefore merely an artifact of physicality with no ultimate existence outside of this realm. An unmentioned subtext (and perhaps I exaggerate in the way I express this) seems to be that any insistence on gender as representing something basic in the nature of the universe is at best an expression of the fevered and "earthly" hang-ups of the less evolved.


However, another approach lies in recognizing the basic yin/yang, male/female, positive/negative, north pole/south pole, dark/light, etc. duality of phenomena. This principle appears to be a universal in the physical, and I do not think it is ludicrous to posit its extension into non-physical realms. How far it extends towards the absolute I do not know, but I do not think that it is absurd to consider the possibility that a concept as fluid as "gender" has different expressions at different levels and on different planes of existence.


Of course, we might not recognize it on some of these levels as "gender" anymore. It may transcend the limitations imposed by the concept of "gender" just as "gender" transcends the limitations imposed by the concept of physical sexual differences--however, this would not mean that it did not exist in some even broader form. Perhaps it has to do with a basic division in the way reality is approached and dealt with. I do not know, but I do know that discussing the issue as being somehow tantamount to physical sexuality carried out of the physical is merely a straw man argument and does not really engage the issue.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Having reread my post, I think that the difference between "neither" and "both" was ill-defined. I lean toward Both without a preference as an "ideal" whereby being able to function or be envisioned as the situation required.


I realize that the various recollections of those reporting "councils", "guides", and other spirits as being either male or female in appearance. These would lead to the thoughts of that soul actually being that gender in reality - I do not know if that is true or not, I just think that when you go to the core of the energy that is that entity there would be no importance in gender identity. My own guide has a male voice, other than that I have not had any personal experience.


An experience that I had that is more in line with this thread's topic is a person that I got to know while working at the Social Health Association. Carri was a transsexual that had not yet had her surgery. We talked quite a bit together and she spoke in the classes we had at a university. Born as a male, she had a brain that appeared to me to be as "male" as my own yet she felt more comfortable as a female. I lost track of her after completing my college coursework and no longer volunteering there.
 
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Hi Mere Dreamer


You asked why I get frustrated about this and other subjects. It's difficult to explain.. A friend of mine who I have known for over 25 years have a problem right now. For those 25 years we have of course discussed many issues.


When I have been wrong I have always been interested to have him explain where I was wrong. Yet when he was wrong he became angry and sometimes aggressive when I told him he was wrong. I always backed off but last time I did not, which has coursed the problem we now have


With this gender issue not only does it come from my source,, but also from my deep seated spiritual existence. That existence tells me..


The Christians are not wrong, those who believe in the spiritual are not wrong and those who contact/talk to those who have passed are not wrong either on this issue.. So where does that leave those with a different belief?


Maybe you are right and I come from a different part of the spiritual.


Deborah is right when she says we are all on a different journey


I said soon after joining this forum that it was my belief I'm on a very different journey to the rest of you


Sea and Sky may have nailed it when he said gender could take different forms at different levels.


Regards... see yu next time
 
Yeah, when I started my cyber life people thought I was a girl and I kept on getting hit on by other guys, little did I know back then a115.gif


My power animal;Hare is also closely links to the moon; Feminitity so I can kind of see how that happened
 
SeaAndSky said:
How far it extends towards the absolute I do not know, but I do not think that it is absurd to consider the possibility that a concept as fluid as "gender" has different expressions at different levels and on different planes of existence.
Of course, we might not recognize it on some of these levels as "gender" anymore.
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John Tat said:
Sea and Sky may have nailed it when he said gender could take different forms at different levels.
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Thanks for clarifying, John.


S&S, I think this is a valuable thought, too. I don't see myself as "gender-less" in spirit so to speak. (If anything, I'm spiritually female even when I'm human-male, if that makes sense.)


One problem I keep running into during this discussion is that this baseline intuitive sense of gendered-ness isn't what most people are referring to when they use the term gender, and I have a very hard time separating that out without sounding like I think gender isn't a possible distinction spiritually.


Sexuality, attractions, cultural positions, interests, thought processes, inclinations ... all these traditional elements that people end up referencing when it comes to gender aren't what spiritual gender is about at all, in my experience, and it has so little to do with the body and mind experiences of life that I find it hard to use the same words.


When I'm in a male body, I'm male and I'm also myself. The self in that body thinks, acts, and lives as a man, all the way through the traditional stereotypes, though often toward the center of the sliding scale, not the extreme.


I don't have waking memories of in between lives, but I do know my guides have no problem switching genders visually if necessary, or even showing up as animals at times. They shift through forms like they're changing clothes.


They're still always male underneath and easily identifiable as themselves, aside from Phoenix, who seems to be my "strongest form" at least that I know of in this life. Higher self? I don't know. I wonder if she was a temporary guide or my "future self" helping me forward, because her character seems to just be "me" now, not separate. a115.gif


I honestly don't know how to explain the difference at that level because from what I can tell from my own lives, the difference isn't anything to do with how (or who) we incarnate. It's just a feeling of gender in between conscious thoughts, sensed in the same way that I know how people feel emotionally sometimes without any explicable way of knowing. It may influence "how I think" but it doesn't change the maleness or femaleness of my life perspective. (Edit: or my desire or lack thereof to act outside of social norms.)
 
I will chime in here since started this topic.


How feel is my truth being woman for so many lives


The thrown into male body . You don't have some part of


previous lives in left in small or large part.


I observe my self and others my friend she walks and


acts like me. I am this way I will not change.


This my hand dealt to me to learn from previous experience.


And how to treat others because I have walked in there shoes.
 
shadowsofmypast said:
I will chime in here since started this topic.
How feel is my truth being woman for so many lives


The thrown into male body . You don't have some part of


previous lives in left in small or large part.


I observe my self and others my friend she walks and


acts like me. I am this way I will not change.


This my hand dealt to me to learn from previous experience.


And how to treat others because I have walked in there shoes.
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I have been female for many but sure I will be male next. Think I will find it strange as well.


Interestingly I always thought you were female shadows.
 
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