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Hi S&S I will do my best to answer what I can... I'm only sure about my (John Tat's) role .. I have some knowledge and understanding of the rest of it.. most of it I cannot talk about ... but I will do my best to pass on what I can within the parameters I'm bound to keep within...It's important there is a structure in place.... a process.. but knowing and understanding why there is reincarnation process and who and/or what controls the process is important.. It is not a random process where anything is possible and can happen .. it's controlled by very strict rules and conditions.. Both BB and my source have knowledge about this from there times in Ancient Egypt..I'm sure about my role and have been shown exactly what I must do.. I have played my role over and over again while meditating guided by BB and my source. When it begins I cannot make any mistakes .. The methods and order I do things in is extremely important to winning.. I call it winning because that is what they call it..From what is happening I have concluded there are two process's not one .. both are very different and completely separate from each other... The first process is the process the physical entity goes through as he dies.. The first process the physical entity must go through as he dies must happen.. It doesn't matter how the physical entity dies... being blown apart by a bomb blast and killed instantly or dying peacefully in bed makes no difference.. we all must go through this process... it is separate from what is killing us... Once the physical has gone through the dying process and is dead.. it releases our spiritual self to enter the second process.. the process of reincarnation.. Now I understand this it makes complete sense to me the physical must be dead and gone for our spiritual selves to reincarnate... and supports why I only have spiritual memories of BB with no clue who the physical entities were BB occupied.. It is also supports the fact there is no such thing or partial form of physical reincarnation
During my meditations on what I must do I have been shown the environments of both process's .. They had to make me aware of what to expect as I begin the dying process..they are very different to what has been written and talked about.. The control of us within both environments is extensive.. Illusions are a big factor ... Even our spiritual selves are captivated and controlled by the power's of the illusions... it's all about getting us to do exactly what they want us to do .. Anything that has complete control over us is evil.. both process's have total and complete control of us.. The last thing the process's wants is control taken away from them... even in the smallest ways With his training John Tat begins to take control away from the process as soon as he arrives there.. That is why his role is extremely important and extremely dangerous.. BB and my source have told me the process will come after me with everything it has as soon as the process understands what is going on .. If I fail what will happen to me? I cannot imagine and I do not want to know.. That is why my preparation has been so extensive..but BB told me there are no guarantees of success.. They tell me over and over again ... we are the good guys .. draw strength from that as soon as you enter the process and you begin the cycle of taking control away from them.. what you will be doing is for the good of all of us... never forget that... never.. you must die our way the ways of Ancient Egypt not the ways of the process.. After I have won BB will be released free of any controls as he enters the process of reincarnation.. insuring his success.. What I find interesting is this must all begin with a physical entity not a spiritual entity .. control can only begin through a physical entity... I wish I understood why
Why are we doing this? BB will also be Or D Ha a physical entity next time... once again two will become one.. It is a transformation that can only happen within the reincarnation process.. you must have some control over the process allowing you to make it happen.. Next time after the transformation has happened everything that needs to be done can and will be done

All The Best
 
All,

I am making a new post here to bring out a subsidiary topic to the main topic "receiving information from a source". John "source" is a disembodied person who may or may not be what others commonly refer to as a guide. I think John would say that his source is more than that, as he is very ancient and knows about the most ancient things of Egypt (far beyond the years that historians currently number). But John can speak for himself on that.

However, the subsidiary question is HOW to establish this link and begin receiving such information. John speaks strongly about his form of meditation, both as a means of contacting such a source, as a means of establishing contact with your own deepest spiritual self, and as a means (in doing one or the other of these things) of recovering memories of past lives. So, I am soliciting detailed information from John about his form and techniques for this type of meditation.

Likewise, I am soliciting information from any and all others about their particular methods of meditation related to any or all of the foregoing.

Cordially,
S&S
 
First of all you must get your mind in a place where you really want to do it... That may sound an easy and basic thing to do but its far from that..To get to such a place within your brain you must eliminate everything you know and have been taught about what to expect ...that it is not in any ways wrong or evil and that a god is not guiding you or looking out for you.. There is only you doing this for yourself nobody else.. and you are willing to accept anything that happens good and bad ... because its not always good and pure.. Unless you can get to such a place you are wasting your time and you will be taken by your imagination on journey of fantasy and meaningless information.. I have never seen the truth talked about how it really is.. there are no lights or beautiful music or anything else there is only the harsh realty of what you want and what are trying to achieve... nothing will be given to you you must earn it
 
Reading through my last post I feel the need to give a better explanation of a couple of things..First I still have my gods... but my gods are not part of and do not have anything to do with the relationship between me and BB ..my spiritual self...being willing to accept anything that happens .. good and bad.. because its not always good and pure...means...not all of the memories are good and pure memories ...if you are doing it right some memories will shock and terrify you..so if you are not willing to see those things that you your spiritual self has been involved with... then don't bother to even start
 
As you go through the essential things of preparing yourself to begin to try and meditate so you can be in contact with your spiritual self/soul... it's important to understand his involvement in all of his incarnations.. He just wasn't an observer...he experienced those incarnations... even if you believe he was only there to learn... he was fully involved .. As a result he was involved in the extreme in all of his incarnations be it from from a serial killer to a priest.. he was part of them all.. that's important to understand as you begin this journey If you don't want to know who he really is then do not even begin
 
Hi John,

Your last post once again triggers some of my confusion about what is going on with you: You speak in the third person saying "he" did this or that. Shouldn't you be saying "I" was this or that, or "I" experienced or did this or that, etc.?

I realize we are not our full selves while immersed in the physical, but while I may be a somewhat diminished version of my true self, denied my full memories and capabilities, it is still "me" and not "he".

Isn't BB you?

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S I have always said BB is me... my pure spiritual self ... but there is two of us not one... John Tat the physical and BB the spiritual...As a result in some situations I refer to BB as me and others as he
That is the whole purpose of next time for BB when me/he becomes Or D Ha and BB one not two.. as I have said many times... When I talk about who and what BB is... it is most defiantly he... John Tat cannot think and/or have a perception of himself of something he is not in those situations.. BB is the spiritual me.. you have to make that distinction in those situations if you want to be in contact with him/you the spiritual you ... As I have said before and I understand it's difficult for those with different beliefs to come to terms with.. Our spiritual selves are not all sugar and spice and everything nice
They have enjoyed the thrills as a serial killer murdered his victims.. just as they have enjoyed the peace calm and satisfactions of a physical entity priest

All The Best
 
I believe its important to not only know where the previous incarnation memories of our spiritual selves are ....but to also to understand what they are and have a proper and real comprehension of who's memories they are.. We would agree all of the physical entities our spiritual selves have occupied are dead and gone and will never return.. So who's memories are we left with?.. There can only be one answer.. the memories of our spiritual selves.. It is assumed by many that those memories are the memories of the experiences of the physical entities.. NO..NO..NO. that could not be more wrong.. They are the memories and experiences of our spiritual selves .. there memories and there interruptions of what happened during a particular incarnation.... As I said they are not all sugar and spice and everything nice
 
I understand it will be difficult to believe what our previous incarnation memories are and where they are... But unless you can accept all of the physical entities our spiritual selves have occupied are dead and gone and will never return.. making it impossible for those memories to be there memories. and all of the memories are our spiritual selves/souls memories, then it will be impossible for you to access those memories of your spiritual self/soul when you meditate... IMO you need to and must eliminate all references to previous physical entities.. unless your spiritual self wants you to know... As far as our spiritual selves are concerned the memories are there memories no one else's... this is just one part where you must learn to control your imagine as best you can... I have also fallen into the trap of wanting them to be something they are not... another strong emotion you must control.. These are just several thing you must get a handle on before you begin if you want to be successful.. I will talk about some others later
 
I guess I must be pretty stupid lol, im trying to understand this thread. I think i understand, you was BB or bebe in a previous life and you are being communicated to by a familiar spirit or spirit guide. Is this correct?
 
Hi briski... I understand how this would be confusing... For me there is John Tat the physical entity... then there is BB my spiritual self.. then there is my source and/or spiritual guide whatever you want to call him who came onto the scene some time after my connection to my spiritual self .. It's interesting when I think about this ... there are times I think BB was once a physical entity long long ago when the sun gods came to the tribes of the Nile..and as I have talked about many times... some members of the tribes during a ritual with the sun gods before they left turned into something different If you have not read in the tread the sun gods came to the tribes of the Nile from the light of a second sun that appeared in the sky.. that was the origin of the term "sun gods".. I first came into contact with BB when I was close to death in hospital after a severe heart attack. In many ways I don't understand the difficulties others have in contacting there spiritual selves ... BB came to me .. what I do have some understandings about is how you go about contacting your spiritual self when you meditate and what his memories are and where they came from.. I understand how I talk about our spiritual selves to many is way way wrong ... that's ok .. I know that's what happens... beliefs most from the imaginations of man that have been around and handed down from generation to generation for thousands of years... for most are difficult to question
 
I wish i could contact my spiritual guide that easily, esp while im quite unwell. Like now. Not in a great way at the moment. Have a CT scan coming up soon.
 
Hi briski...I believe its important to give your spiritual self a name BB my spiritual self name was given to me by my source.. My advise would be .. give your spiritual self a name and talk to him when ever you feel the need to. I talk to BB many times a day... this very much helps in building a connection to our spiritual selves.. As you do this you will build a connection that will make it a lot easier to be in contact with him... As I have said before when you make this contact you will know.. there are no illusions it has happened..I'm not well either... During any medical procedure I close my eyes and connect with BB
When I do this I completely understand there is whole lot more to me than John Tat.. that is very comforting.. John Tat is neither the beginning or the end of me

wishing you all the best
 
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Hi briski...I believe its important to give your spiritual self a name BB my spiritual self name was given to me by my source.. My advise would be .. give your spiritual self a name and talk to him when ever you feel the need to. I talk to BB many times a day... this very much helps in building a connection to our spiritual selves.. As you do this you will build a connection that will make it a lot easier to be in contact with him... As I have said before when you make this contact you will know.. there are no illusions it has happened..I'm not well either... During any medical procedure I close my eyes and connect with BB
When I do this I completely understand there is whole lot more to me than John Tat.. that is very comforting.. John Tat is neither the beginning or the end of me

wishing you all the best
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Thanks John, hoping you get well soon.
Im very concerned about my health right now. As always fearing the worst!
 
Ive made up a name John as suggested, i first thought up Joe, didnt feel right switched to Jay..then it popped into my head JJ for some reason. I little bit inspired by your own. Hope you dont mind!
 
Hi briiski I find the fact you settled on JJ very interesting... I believe in actual fact because of what they are they don't have physical names.. A nickname like BB JJ is what they prefer.. So its a very positive sign you have settled on JJ .. maybe just maybe a connection to your spiritual self has begun just by wanting a name to call him so you can be in contact with him.. he maybe giving you a sign... yes I'm here call me JJ
 
Hi John,

I'd appreciate more details in regard to your method of meditation. You say one must be ready for the stuff that is hard to deal with--murder, mayhem, evil, etc. OK. However, you have said nothing about your techniques for entering into this type of communication with your inner self. Most use calming and settling techniques to eliminate distractions and focus the attention inward (or away from external physical phenomena). Some focus their inner attention of various chakras, such as the heart chakra or "third eye". So far, you have said a few things about what to do when you "get there", but nothing about "how" to "get there".

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S There is no point in repeating myself.. go back to post #633 and read thru them... Its all about getting yourself to a point where you are ready to begin to meditate and attempt to contact your spiritual self ..After you give your spiritual self a name talk to him during the day.. This is very important.. it is the beginning of contacting him.. My connection to BB has nothing to do with my gods... nothing.. its between me and BB and nobody and nothing else.. unless you can get to this point with your god you are wasting your time.. I feel this may be difficult for you. to talk to your spiritual and continually ask him for help and guidance.. you must keep him separate from your god.. You are not abandoning your god just establishing a connection with yourself your spiritual self.. which is in no ways evil
How can anything be evil about asking for guidance from yourself... you must get to that point.. If you are being real about this .. what I have talked about in the other posts and this one will take months of work to get it right... nothing will be given to you you must earn it.. you must prepare yourself in the proper manner.. I believe that is why almost everyone fails .. They try to mediate and contact there spiritual selves and give up when they are not successful because they have not put in the effort to lay the foundations so it will happen
After some time you will begin to feel the connection to you spiritual self.. you will even begin to feel he is acknowledging you.. do not dismiss this feeling because its the beginning of establishing the connection.. As this connection grows a time will arrive when you will know its time to begin your meditations in attempt to establish a connection with him/you the spiritual you.. always understand there are two of you.. one that dies and never returns.. the other you who goes on and on incarnation after incarnation.. You are attempting to contact him.. the other you ..your spiritual self
Now it becomes a little complicated... you are going to mediate and attempt to contact your spiritual.. if you rush this and have not put months of work into building the proper foundations you are wasting your time and will be overcome by your imagination.. you will believe something is happening but it will all be an illusion.. OK.. now to contact your spiritual self while you are mediating you must go to another place.. if you cannot do this again you are wasting your time.. Over time my connection to BB has grown to be so strong .. I can close my eyes go to this other place and be in contact him reasonably quickly..It took a long time to get to this point.. What is this other place?... the best description I can give is...there is nothing physical there.. its a place that has no connections to the physical world.. So this has nothing to do with self hypnosis.. its a different thing altogether
How do you get there? I can only pass on how I got there.. something similar may work for you.. on the other hand it may not.. I sometimes wonder if there is some sort of ability required to do this.. I'm not sure if the answer is yes or no.. going back to how I did it.. After countess times of unsuccessful attempts to contact my spiritual self while I was meditating... also keep in mind I had no idea that this other place existed.. during one mediation I had a feeling that came from my very being... from deep inside me.. maybe all of my work and effort had begun to pay off (nothing is given to you you must earn it)..to ask to see faces.. I did not question that.. so I began to ask... show me faces.... show me faces... show me faces .. over and over and over again that first time I did see two faces...Over a period of time asking this every night while I mediated I was seeing a picture show every night of faces.. men.. women... children all of them all ages and types.. freaks... monsters and on and on.. What I did not understand at the time was happening was.. I was slowing leaving the reality of the physical world leaving everything physical behind and going to this other place.. the picture show of faces was taking me there.. when I finally got to the other place I was under no illusions what had happened.. The first time I was only there for a short time... as I went there every night I learnt how to lock myself into this other place.. a skill you can only learn from being there.. As I said that is what worked for me.. probably not for you.. but you can see from this what you need to do to get there.. When I think about it Its very unlikely it will work for you... you must find your own way... nothing will be given to you.. but at least you know what has to be done to get there.. That's enough for twelve months.. that's how long it may take if you do it properly... contacting your spiritual self when you get there is another thing altogether

All The Best
 
Hi John,

I don't recall if it was on this thread (I think it was on another), but I seem to recall you saying that you saw the building of the great pyramid over several life-times. I'd appreciate more information on this. The current theory is that it was built over a relatively short few decades by huge numbers of workers.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S What I said and from my memories was.. because of the techniques we used to build the pyramids it was possible for us to walk away at any point during a pyramids construction and go back and start again years later . As I have said before.. I'm beginning to understand some of my feelings can fill in the blanks in my memories some I believe with reasonable accuracy.. I have a feeling generated by my memories that it was not possible for us for reasons I do not understand to build huge pyramids from beginning to end without breaking up the construction of them into something like time periods which is a term I have within me that does not mean all that much to me.. others may understand more than me.. I have a feeling the pyramids were built for a particular family of pharaohs who were in power at the time not anyone particular pharaoh within that family.. that is where the scholars may have it way wrong.. so there was no urgency in a pyramids construction to get it done ASAP.. It was more of a monument to a line of pharaohs and when it was completed whoever the pharaoh died first after its construction was finished was buried within the family pyramid ... It is very possible that when a pyramid could be completed during the reign of particular pharaoh he pushed hard for it to be completed and history giving him the credit for building the pyramid... making it to appear the pyramid was built over a short period of time.. during the reign of that pharaoh.. when in fact it may have been over many hundreds of years..I hope this answers your question

All The Best
 
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Hi John,

I continue to try and understand what is going on with you, and more recently, why your contacts emphasize that they are the "good guys" and why they are operating as they do outside the normal system of things (in terms of reincarnation). The following constitutes some ideas I have come across that may have some bearing on this topic--at least to me.

As you know, I'm always reading, and recently read some materials in regard to Christian reincarnation (one of my interest areas) that I thought might have some applicability. I'm not sure how to summarize and simplify what I have read, so I'll just take a stab at some principle points. (For the inevitable critics, be gentle--I'm really having a hard time phrasing all of this without getting too sectarian and risking violating board rules).

Anyhow, first, there was (as the Bible says) war in heaven. Second, this original rebellion against the almighty resulted in the "fall" of the rebels from the higher non-physical realms to lower non-physical realms (which may have been created for that purpose--i.e., prisons or places of exile). Third, the physical universe serves the higher realm as a sort of half-way-house for those among the fallen who are seeking to "return" to the higher realms (and it may have also been specifically created for this purpose). So, the physical is a place those who had been in rebellion may rotate through via reincarnation while trying to recover/develop their virtue/character and prove themselves loyal and worthy/trustworthy of further advancement. Fourth, from the standpoint of the leading rebels who still stand by the rebellion (and see themselves as the "good guys"), it is a new realm to exploit and conquer--and much better to be in than the prison realms they would otherwise have access to. Also, the dedicated rebels have to stay active in the physical (whether incarnate or not) to try and stop/slow the defection of those who are ready to leave the rebellion and to "go home" (i.e., people like me). Consequently, the physical universe is a middle-ground and battle-ground between these two opposing forces.

Also, it bears remembering that (notwithstanding later derogatory representations in art, etc.) those who led the rebellion were among the highest of created beings and glorious. From an artistic standpoint, John Milton's "Paradise Lost" would be a closer rendition of them in their beginning than Medieval art works. This is also in keeping with the usually quoted language of the Bible on this subject.

Anyhow, I put the foregoing out there for what it is worth.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi Tanker,

I have never been a pacifist, though I am tending more in that direction in my old age. For most of my lifetime, I have been a proponent of the "just war" idea and believed that (while regrettable) it can be necessary just as self-defense can be necessary. (This has long been the standard belief in most Christian circles). The problem often comes, from a Christian or human standpoint, because most of the wars fought in human history have not been "just wars" and even when they are justifiable from that standpoint, they are going to be full of unjust (and heinous) acts. Humans are imperfect at the best of times, and when terrified, under fire and/or brainwashed they are capable of almost anything. However, even on the side of an "unjust" war or military action, I tend to empathize and sympathize with the rank-and-file individuals involved, as I expressed on BenjaminFR's Waffen SS thread. Most of the responsibility goes back to the leaders who get things rolling, and even here I am leery of standing too much in judgment when I don't have to do so.*

Cordially,
S&S

*PS-At least theoretically. In practice, my blood can be set to boiling by some of the things I hear. E.g., some of the despicable cruel and animalistic acts committed by Isis/Daesh during its reigns of terror.
 
Hi Tanker,

I know what you are talking about in terms of the acts of the "Russian armies". Here is something that you may or may not know about:

http://reincarnationforum.com/threads/memories-of-early-theosophists.5570/page-5#post-85974

When I'm calmer, I prefer to refer to the perpetrators as Bolsheviks, but I wasn't particularly calm when I wrote this. Anyhow, I don't believe this is a particularly "Russian" problem. Anytime you get a bunch of men who have been thoroughly brutalized and brainwashed and come through enough battles where their friends and comrades were slaughtered, you're going to end up with . . . problems. In most cases in the modern world, leaders try to quash and control this. Stalin sought just the opposite.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi Tanker,

The language from my prior post that you quoted is NOT my point of view, as the linked post should convey. This is especially true as I have pretty good reason to think I was a PL victim of the depredations described. I was mocking the seeming POV of those who covered up and ignored these atrocities during and after WWII, the ones who acted like German civilians deserved this kind of treatment from the Russians. I am on your side in re this issue. And, I am also on your side in re the treatment you and your comrades received at the hands of the Russians when captured. All of this hearkens back to the kinds of barbarians that served as the models for Isis/Daesh and their ilk. Soldiers who have served honorably deserve to be treated honorably.

Cordially,
S&S
 
tanker,I think that I understand that it stings when the "good guys" are defined by the opposition. It is a natural thing to draw lines and position yourself and others on either side of those lines with those most like us and with the most similar world-views as the "good guys" and the others as anywhere from fools to our enemy. You are in a unique position of having memories of a past life where that personality was an "enemy" of the society your current personality is a part of, possibly most of us have been in a similar position without remembering.

Watching the "race" issues unfold here in the USA is a good example of the "like-me" and "other-kind" gets stoked repeatedly to the point of it being comical (if it weren't so tragic). I'm thinking just now of a black celebrity who is promoting a political party and asking people to remember the lynchings of long ago by the Klan that was really the party she is now promoting - much like chickens rallying for Colonel Sanders IMO. Our minds can get so wound around specific issues to the point of blinding us to the bigger picture. Having been born in the 1930's, I remember the hatred of the Germans and Japanese. I recall that I still felt some strangeness in owning a German Shepherd in the 1970's (they were renamed Alsatians I think here in the US during the war), it takes a while for those old thoughts to die.
 
Hi Tanker,

I'm in the U.S. and don't remember a lot of prejudicial talks by my parents in re either the Japanese or the Germans. To the extent there were any, it was generally about the Japanese (who had a bad reputation in terms of how they treated Allied prisoners of war). I generally had a high opinion of the Germans on an intellectual level. I was a big Scifi reader, and a bit of a science nerd. To me, Germans represented some of the biggest names in science. Whether for this reason or because of PLs, I took years of German in High School, which (after more than 45 years) allows me to ask "where is the library", but not the far more practical query: "Where is the loo" ;). However, one of my "senior" ambitions is to re-learn German, even though it would be far more practical for me to learn Spanish. Actually, I think I got a far more negative view of both from watching standard "B" war movies on the TV while growing up.

Cordially,
S&S
 
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Hi S&S I think its important to clarify who the good guys are.. BB who is me.. my spiritual self our source and "the others" who I have talked about before. I have many warrior memories but choose not to talk about them because I see and/or have no need to. Lets assume what you said is right.. then where would BB fit into it.. As you know BB sees himself as a warrior of the gods he always has been as you know .. the sun gods came to the tribes of the Nile from the light of the second sun BB witnessed that event.. They were physical gods and told us they had come from a place exactly the same as here and were born to physical mothers from here.. So in your account of what happened who are the sun gods who came from the light of the second sun to the tribes of the Nile and who BB serves and is a warrior of them.. and who do you think I am (BB) is who is going to return and will end the chaos and restore balance. Will he also end the chaos and restore balance in your heaven as well as the physical?.. if you can answer these questions it would give me a greater understanding of what you are talking about how and why you believe I (BB) may fit into all of it

All The Best
 
Hi John,

We are all ultimately spirits. At some point, apparently aeons in the past, there was a great rebellion in the spirit realms. I believe the ones you refer to as the sun gods were high spirits involved in that rebellion, and perhaps of the highest. In addition, it would follow from what I have previously said that all of the spirits currently inhabiting or incarnating into physical bodies in the material universe--including me--were once part of the faction that rebelled (aside from a few occasional drop-ins from the higher planes of existence). Some of us rebels have had a change of heart. However, if what I suspect is true, you/BB and your source are spirits who remain deeply and consciously associated with the faction that rebelled.

The vast majority on earth are probably not consciously members of one faction or the other. As past rebels, they remain under the titular control of the leaders of the rebellion (such as the sun gods), but have lost their memory of the past and on earth are now subject to influences that may ultimately bring them into the opposing camp. You were in this status yourself for, seemingly, a few thousand years. As BB you walked away from your long string of mirror lifetimes in association with the ancient "gods" millennia ago, and plunged into forgetfulness over many lifetimes. In your last PL you had, apparently, switched your allegiance or sought to do so. However, you seem to have abandoned that change in bitterness when you died during WWII. When I first met you on this board, you appeared to me to be languishing in this lifetime without conscious allegiance to either faction--only a deep atheistic animosity towards God.

Then, only a few years ago, you rediscovered the ones you refer to as the sun gods and began to come to a deeper understanding of your past as BB, a spirit/person of importance in regard to one of the greatest ancient earth kingdoms to have been held (and seemingly established) by the forces of the rebellion. Perhaps more importantly, they rediscovered you, and now plan to use you, BB, in the reconquest and reorganization of ancient Egypt and perhaps even more. You will be used, apparently, in an attempt to reestablish the ancient rule and order of the sun gods in Egypt and perhaps elsewhere on this planet. I suspect this will include an attempt to bring the many drifting spirits on earth without conscious allegiance over to the faction in rebellion.

I see this as only one battle among many that are probably being fought for control of the physical universe and the spirits incarnate here. As previously noted, the physical universe is the battleground, it is also the great resource for exploration and exploitation by the faction you seem to belong to. Your faction lost in the higher spirit planes and was exiled to, so to speak, less desirable planes of spirit existence. With the higher planes lost, the physical universe is the place to be and control if you are a rebel spirit.

In terms of the sun gods, I do not know where they came from before their sojourn on earth thousands of years ago, but it was apparently a physical world somewhere in the universe. From what you have said, they travel via light between the stars as spirits in a way that is far faster and more sensible than any material body (or spacecraft) could do, and reincarnate via a host mother when they arrive at their destination, obtaining and using a physical body for life in a physical domain. I do not know how the second sun that appeared with them when they came relates to this or serves their power, but by your report they definitely seem to have had enormous power and magnificence. Using BB as their emissary and general, they seem to aim to renew and expand the ancient outpost of civilization and control they had established in Ancient Egypt. Whether they will remain on earth after they accomplish their goals I do not know. I assume they will once again leave to accomplish similar goals elsewhere in the universe. Likewise, I assume they will once again use the means of communication they used in ancient times (which you previously discussed) to remain in contact with their servants including, I assume, BB.

These are my best guesses John, based on following your posts for the last 4-5 years. They will certainly not all be correct, and may not even be very close. But this is currently what I feel is happening.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S A lot for me to think about and meditate about.. The only immediate response I got from BB and I find it interesting because these words came through loud and clear ... May the jackals of the night piss on them and fill there ka's with piss for them to drink after we have hacked them to pieces.. I have no clue what relevance that has to what you talked about...We made a lot of mistakes..including people losing there way with the gods as you know was a major reason BB abandoned them.. We will not make the same mistakes again.. I may be wrong but I'm not sure its all about the battle to control the physical... its also about about control of the reincarnation process itself.. which may at present be controlled by who you describe as the higher spirits who you believe banished the rebels..I'm not sure about the good and not so good spirits being in conflict with each other As I said I will have to think about that and mediate on that with BB and our source.. The one thing I am sure about is...whoever controls the reincarnation process controls everything including the spiritual world.. the physical world.. a place call heaven even if it exists.. and all physical life .. That is where all control begins and ends ..In this battle as I have said we are the good guys ... The reincarnation process has controlled us from the moment we began.. Those who currently control the process are totally unworthy of that task........ If you have anything else it would be good because it gives me things to meditate on.. makes it all far more interesting for me and I also learn more about things.. As I get more on all of this I will post it .. thanks

All The Best
 
I find this interaction and attempted understandings of S&S and John very interesting - old testament and Egyptian-life recall, Yahweh and the Sun-Gods, conflicting views from thousands of years ago still attempting resolution. I had to laugh when I read BB's response this morning, I truly expected something about "May the fleas of a thousand camels..." be in the next sentence! That led me to look up who were the Nephilim Giants and other possible explanations.
 
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