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Thanks Ken... I found those very informative..

S&S Its my opinion there is little or nothing to be gained from BB and my source if we keep going back to names and circumstances we already believe mostly through faith are true
They come from a time when things were viewed differently.. just a couple of examples.. they always talk about lands the the north south east and west of Egypt and also refer to those people as coming from those regions.. My brain is very tired right now but I will give just one example that took plenty of time to understand what was being communicated.. even then its not 100% accurate
BB talked about a land to the north that was invaded by a foreign king. A great king of Egypt (maybe many were great to him) went to this northern land and with his loyal servants and the help of Amun drove this foreign king from the lands of the peoples of the north... the people of the north saw the power of Egypt and there gods and understood what had happened.. The people of the north adopted Amun as one of there gods to not only protect them from foreign kings but to be in favor with Egypt
From this I get....the pharaohs were very interested in not only having peoples from other countries fear them so they could use them and there countries for the benefit of Egypt but also converting the people to the religion and gods of Ancient Egypt
What land BB is talking about I have no idea ... there are plenty to choose from.. these are the situations where I need more meditations to find out more details.. I want to know who the pharaoh was...that's just the beginning

Regards
 
Hi John,

What you're saying basically echoes what I'm trying to say: whatever I come up with has to make sense from an Egyptian perspective more than a Hebrew (Bible) perspective, because that is the perspective that BB is going to come from.

However, having said that, there are definitely some situations where things like you mentioned occurred. They not only come up in the Bible, but in secular history as well. Israel was a small kingdom to the north of a large empire (Egypt), and between Egypt and other large kingdoms and empires north of Canaan/Israel. So, Israel was not only a natural pathway for trade between these large Kingdoms/empires and Egypt, but a natural pathway for warfare, and often a prize of war wrestled over by Egypt and its competitors farther north, like Assyria and Babylon. So, I'll look into the history and give you the names of some Pharoahs that might fit the description you give. Blueheart and a variety of other history buffs can also do so. It's an interesting area, and one that does get fairly substantial play in the Bible, so I might even find something useful there.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

I'll start out with one who may be the most obvious candidate, as he is considered by many to be the greatest Pharaoh, the "Napoleon of Egypt", due to his long reign and many conquests, greatly expanding the power of Egypt: Thutmose III. See if any of this rings any bells with BB--From this site https://discoveringegypt.com/ancien...s/thutmose-iii-the-napoleon-of-ancient-egypt/ :

"Thutmose III is often compared to Napoleon, but unlike Napoleon he never lost a battle. He conducted sixteen campaigns in Palestine, Syria and Nubia and his treatment of the conquered was always humane. He established a sort of “Pax Egyptica” over his empire. Syria and Palestine were obliged to keep the peace and the region as a whole experienced an unprecedented degree of prosperity. His impact upon Egyptian culture was profound. He was a national hero, revered long after his time. Indeed, his name was held in awe even to the last days of ancient Egyptian history. His military achievements brought fabulous wealth and his family resided over a golden age that was never surpassed."

This definitely sounds like someone BB would refer to as a Great King. Also, check out: http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/imperialism/notes/thutmose3.html; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmose_III; etc. If this seems like a likely candidate, you may wish to check out the cites referenced, and I will look into his impact in terms of Canaan/Israel.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S Thanks for that... That not the pharaoh...As I said last time my brain is tired in fact it's exhausted .. there has been plenty of serious stuff going on lately... Last night as I always do when I get like this I have what I call relaxation meditations... to help re energize my brain.. they are therapeutic mediation I suppose.. I just drift along with no pressure and allow it to take wherever.. My mother was there helping me... I did not see here but I knew she was there .. She said the pharaoh is Amen... I said Amen? she said yes.. Ahmes.. the pharaoh was Ahmes... I googled Ahmes this morning and found Ahmos 1
a pharaoh I have never heard anything about.. My brain is to exhausted and that combined with the difficulty I have with complicated written words I left it at that.. When I fell better I will research it more... maybe you can help with that?

Regards
 
Hi S&S I'm still not right but I have done a little research on Ahmos 1...It appears from the little I have found what BB passed onto me about a great king who went to the lands of the north is accurate especially about what he did and how he went about it
As you know this is not the first time what has been passed onto me is accurate.
It makes me wonder about the many things that have been passed onto me that cannot be proven and are also accurate...for example A sun god from Egypt made his way north to the people of the north and over time evolved into not only a sole god but a universal god... That must be Yahweh the Hebrew god. I use those words not in disrespect but for those who only read a couple of posts

Regards
 
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I have don a little research to see if there are any connections between Y the HG and a sun god... The following I found almost immediately so its not hidden and is there for all to see
They are mosaic images of the zodiac with the image of a sun god in the center.. and have been found in many Hebrew synagogues I have included some writing setting out where some have been found..Some of the sun gods are anthropomorphize... I had no idea what that meant so I looked it up... it means depicted as human... they gave the Easter bunny as an example
What is significant is.. the sun god is depicted as the center of it all.. or could it be translated to ...Y the HG is the center of it allSUN Disk 2.png SUN Disk 2.png SUN DIISK 2.png SUN GOD 8.png

There were other images but two was enough
 
Hi John,

I'm aware of Zodiac mosaics in Jewish synagogues in the New Testament period and after. The Zodiac was taken seriously by the ancients, and also formed a popular decorative motif. The style used in Jewish structures of the period is apparently Roman (according to the articles I have read), and in some the typical occupant of the center of the Zodiac in Roman works--Sol (the sun)--is shown as typically shown in gentile versions from the same era. There is plenty written about this in various locations, but no one takes it for a sign of sun worship or anything similar. Besides, it is very "late" in the history of Israel. I would find it a bit more interesting if you found evidence of this type from a millenium or so earlier, where it might reflect more on the origins and early years of Jewish monotheism.

Jumping back to Ahmose I, he is most notable for expelling the Hyksos from a portion of northern Egypt. The Hyksos are a fairly mysterious group who migrated into (or conquered) the area centuries before and were driven out by Ahmose I. Interestingly, after defeating them militarily he allowed the remainder to leave rather than annihilating them, and they were said to have made a mass migration into Canaan and more-or-less taken over the area and built Jerusalem according to some ancient sources. These were claimed to be the ancient Israelites by Josephus, an ancient Jewish source (who is not held to be be particularly credible by many) as well as by some other scholars, but their identity is unclear. You can read some more about them at the following site, but I would recommend anything you can find about Ahmose I and the Hyksos on Wikipedia as a general source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_Hyksos#Manetho_and_Josephus

And, some more is here: http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/...ar-eastern-world/the-expulsion-of-the-hyksos/

I have seen some sites that attempt to weave together what is known from Egyptian history with the Biblical narrative with mixed results. Here is one that comes to some fairly interesting conclusions: http://www.biblehistory.net/newsletter/moses_pharaoh.htm

Even more interesting is the presence of the tetragrammaton (YHWH) in some ancient Egyptian records. Here is a short account: http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=7493

Here is a much longer scholarly analysis: http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2010/03/08/The-Name-Yahweh-in-Egyptian-Hieroglyphic-Texts.aspx

Apparently, the Egyptians of this period were not averse to incorporating foreign deities into their worship and renaming them after their Egyptian counterparts, but did not do so with Y, which indicates to the authors that Y was not considered to be a deity "friendly" to Egypt, etc. So, much of interest in this area, but all is unclear.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Anything further from BB on this issue?
 
Hi S&S I'm searching fo the truth about Y the HG and his connection to the sun gods of Egypt... that's what I'm trying to do.. I have found numerous reports that the ca Canaanites were worshiping a sun god from around 1500 BC But I cannot find real proof that happened only reports it did.. With these things I search for proof just as I do with what is communicated to me
To brush the mosaic images off as not relevant concerns me... After all the were in synagogues and could not be a more blatant violation of the second commandment "Thou Shalt Not Make Unto Thee Any Craven Image" If you read what I have attached the sun gods in the synagogues were obviously acceptable at the time... Why?...well that is the 64 million dollar question
The sun god is not Sol the Roman sun god but Helios the Greek sun god.. These are the types of clues I'm looking for in the evolution of Y the HG.. Just as many things Greek they originally came from Egypt
I have attached some things of interest I have found The first in the sun disk of Aten shining down Akhenaten and his family.. The next is an image from a modern day synagogue.. looks very similar to me
the other image just looks like the sun again from a modern synagogue... I think both represent the sun maybe you know... but why this fascination with the sun?Zodiac.png ATEN 1.png AMUN.png AMUN 3.png Zodiac.png

Regards
 
Hi Ken/John,

The Biblical Archeology person reminds me of some of the articles I read on the zodiac mosaics by Jewish authors. Basically, they are all surprised and sometimes a bit aghast that such a thing is in THE SYNAGOGUE! Horrors!

One I read basically, albeit painfully, admitted that the ancestors must not have understood the whole no "image" thing the same way that Jews do now. However, in terms of the origins of the worship of Y I don't think these things prove such worship is derived from sun worship any more than the gargoyles on ancient cathedrals prove that Christian worship is derived from gargoyles. At various times, trends for decor and decoration in places of worship go through various phases, sometimes fairly fantastical, and sometimes rather austere. Frankly, I just think this was the style in up-scale synagogues in the NT era and for a few centuries thereafter. As an example of the swing from more highly decorated/image laden to less decorated/image laden, many beautiful works of art located in great cathedrals were ravaged/removed by the protestant reformers during the reformation period. These folks were, like many of the Jews studying these ancient mosaics, aghast and opposed to such things being in a house of worship. Consequently, churches in denominations of this type--Presbyterian, Reformed, etc.--tend to be rather stark (basic white was and is popular) when compared to Catholic churches.

In terms of other speculation vis-a-vis the origins of monotheistic worship in the Judeo-Christian tradition, you can find all kinds of theories out there. So, not too impressed by the two part website theorizing on that matter. However, it is good that it is trying to go back to a much earlier period. As noted, these mosaics are waaaaaay after the beginning of the religion. Whatever BB is talking about would go back--according to him--to the period of Ahmose I, Moses, etc.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--Religious syncretism--i.e., bringing other gods and rites for such gods into, and combining them with, the worship of Y--is one of the big issues in the OT. Many OT stories tell how the Hebrews started doing that kind of thing, and brought divine punishment on themselves. So, there are plenty of records of that happening and Astarte, Asherah and other gods creeping into the worship of the people. This inevitably led to punishment of some kind by Y, then eventually a rekindling of faithfulness and relationship. So, it will be no surprise to find evidence of other gods/worship sneaking in here and there in the history of Judaism.
 
Hi Ken Thanks for giving me those links they appear to be very informative. With the problems I have in comprehending complicated written words it will take me a little time to wade through them all
Its becoming more and more obvious to me that the god Y of today is very different to the god Y of 1000 BC...of the the god Y at the time of the mosaics in the synagogues.... the god Y of 500 years ago and even the god Y of 100 years ago .. He has been continually molded by the scholars into what he is today.. that gives me great pause....why would a perfect god need to continually changed?
From the little I can at this point understand from your links and what I have found... the sun and sun gods are there throughout the history of Y
Jewish prayers as late as the Greek period sometime explicitly identified Y as Helios the sun god... an example of a Jewish prayer given was "Hail Helios thou god in heaven your name is almighty"
Its becoming more and more obvious to me that what was communicated to me about Y being a sun god from Egypt has some merit.. Over long periods of time who the original sun god and/or god was appears to be bound up in a complicated web of intrigue of who believed what and when they believed it

Regards
 
Looking at this list of areas that had a Sun-God it might seem normal to have reference to it everywhere as S&S implied about gargoyles.

As for the changes in the character/beliefs of Y, it is obvious that the same thing has happened to the Sun-God to the point that he/she/it is no longer recognized in most of the regions in that link.

I wish that I could contribute more, but you, Blueheart, and S&S have created an interesting thread.
 
Hi Ken...Yes you are right the sun god is no longer recognized in most of the religions in the link...As I said I'm searching for the evolution of "Y" where did he come from? A sun god who evolved into something else...lets say"Y" then over time the belief in "Y" not only evolved as a sole god but a universal god and his original name was lost to history does not change who he is... "Y" is very likely just another name for Amun the sun god who's connection to "Y" has been lost to history.. as I have said Amun also spelt Amen is far more than a coincidental link between Amun the sun god and "Y"

Regards
 
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John, I have a confession to make to you. I originally thought you were less than I now see you as and I apologize for my judgemental attitude. I also felt that you were being led about by a departed being that had remained tied to Earth, which I think has been shown to be true - I'm glad to see you distancing yourself from him despite the interest he generated.

The conflict, at least in my mind, is that you seem to be speaking about the Gods that reign over the people of the Earth while S&S speaks of the God that created the people and the Earth which caused some confusion for me. My only understandings about ancient Egypt come from readings of Edgar Cayce and the book Initiation by Elisabeth Haich plus what I get from the internet. The only "memory" that I have that might be Egypt-related is a glimpse/picture with feelings (memory) of levitating a monolith with sound.

The other conflict is that this very interesting thread (now termed Discussion) has turned, perhaps, too much into Religion rather than Past Life (and I have been a contributor to that end). The primary saving grace is your contact with BB and his communication.
 
Hi Ken... Thanks for that.... As you infer this topic about who was and is the original god is best left at the point we got to... Just a last thought.....We would not exist without the sun... Who would the Egyptian sun god Amun be if he was the god of all of the suns just not ours? We , the Egyptians never said he was only the god of our sun.. It really does come down to how you define who and why a god is the only true god...A god of all the suns would be a true definition of the only true god..taking "Y" with him in that definition
Regards
 
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Hi John,

Your last sentence is moving deeper into the heart of this matter. At this point, you seem to be close to elevating Amun to the status of Y.

In a polytheistic (multi-god) framework, Amun would not be in a completely different category from other "gods"--Amun would just be one of the "gods", even if he is wiser or more powerful, or even the father in a family of gods descended from him via a goddess (as with Zeus and the Greek gods).

In a monotheistic framework, lesser beings can be powerful enough to be classified as "gods", but they are still not in the same category as GOD, anymore than you or I are in the same category as GOD.

The primary difference to me is that the supreme GOD is the creator of lesser "gods" just as he is the ultimate creator of all other things. I say ultimate creator, because the supreme GOD may create lesser beings ("gods") and authorize and empower them to create and govern in more limited ways/areas under his control the way any large organization works under a "Boss". However, the lesser "gods" (whether they are "god" of the Nile or whatever) have no power except that delegated to them by the supreme and overarching GOD who created them just like he ultimately created everything else.

If this is how you see Amun, then I would say that you are close to saying that Amun is just another name for Y. However, as Ken points out, we need to keep bringing this back to BB as a putative past life in order to keep within Board guidelines, so another question would be how BB deals with these issues?

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S BB believes Amun who evolved into Amun -Ra... king of all the gods ... who was worshiped well beyond the borders of Egypt.. who became so powerful he was seen as almost single god who evolved into Amun-Ra over 1500 years before Exodus was written in 5 BC... with his name Amun also spelled Amen still used to this day by the Jews and Christians at every one of there religious ceremony's...
the worshiping of sun gods by the believers in "Y" even calling the sun god "Y" the sun still on display in synagogues today to BB all points to who the true god is ... all the the gods of today evolved from Amun Ra that's what BB believes.. the proof is there for all to see .... as you know the proof does not end with Amen

Regards
 
Hi S&S Once again I'm really tired... It's happening more and more as time goes on... I just read the entire discussion we had about the gods and realized it was a waste of time from both of us... I have very serious things going on right now that completely drains me... and brings a whole new perspective to me... The truth about the whole god thing has just struck me.... What will be will be....making our discussion unworthy

Regards
 
Hi John,

I agree that we cannot really accomplish more at this point on the topic of whether Y is somehow a Hebrew version of Amun, or otherwise derived from Amun.

On a conceptual level, if Amun gets big and powerful enough, so to speak, he would be Y, because there is no room for more than one infinite, ultimate, supreme, all-powerful God and creator of everything who is above all other "gods" and is their creator. As I noted, if Amun is not just the sun god, but the god of all suns/stars in the universe (as you seemed to hypothesize), that is certainly a step in the direction of being Y, but I am not sure you are willing to go any farther in terms of expanding the nature of Amun into an all-powerful, infinite, etc. deity preexisting and above all of the other sun gods (and everything else). Amun would have to be at that level to be another name for Y.

On a historic level, you seem convinced from various artistic/decorative elements at synagogues and, I think, churches that there is a strong connection, but to me use of the sun in such surroundings is merely decorative or symbolic, and doesn't indicate that the God of the Hebrews is a version of Amun.

On a BB level, which is where my interest principally lies, there has been no new information given other than an initial assertion of some sort of connection. I had really hoped for more, because one of the real interests to me in this entire thread has been the doors into ancient history opened by BB and your source. So, that is a bit of a disappointment.

However, that doesn't mean that everything that has come over the course of this very long thread has been a disappointment. Quite the contrary. It has usually been very interesting and even exciting for the most part. That is one of the reasons I have been faithfully following this thread since its beginning.

Nonetheless, I can appreciate the fact that you are fatigued and have a lot of other things happening at the moment. Ditto for me as well. So, rest and come back when you wish. I hope you do, as this is basically the only thread I follow at this point, so I will be checking in periodically for new posts.

All the best!

Cordially,
S&S
 
I have kept away from this thread for over a month as I rested up.. my brain was exhausted.. Part of what I did to rest up was to write down how things started for me 23 years ago after nearly dying from a heart attack how that changed me ... my struggle with not comprehending complicated written words and beliefs... having to do it all on my own.. being a late starter with no previous understandings and knowledge..I'm 73 now and all of this began when I was 50 and on and on... I finished up with 57 pages about what has happened and how it happened... it was great... great therapy
Just a couple of things from the 57 pages...I talk about my source and my spiritual self.... my spiritual self came first... I first became aware of him when he came to me in the hospital when I was at the point of death.....
At the time I had no clue what had happened... it was only sometime after I left hospital and I was never the same did I begin to become aware of him.
Twenty three years has gone by since I first became aware of him.. things have changed dramatically
Now I talk about my pure spiritual self... I'm no longer aware of a soul...I would like to say....I I know a soul and spirit are separate..or one and the same... or there is only one of them...or the concept of a soul is nothing more than a figment of the human imagination... but I have no clue
It's impossible for a new and different brain to have any previous incarnation memories...Our brain along with everything else physical about us dies never to return making it impossible for our brains to have any previous incarnation memories .. they are not there no matter what tools you use trying to find them.
You must meditate and contact your spiritual self he has all of the memories
As I have said before I only have visual previous incarnation memories of my spiritual self of events.. They are brief...snapshots is a good description.. I have no clue who I.. "my spiritual self" was occupying at the time .. visual memories are very different to communicated memories
Once you begin to mediate you never stop developing your skills and techniques.. With over 20 years of solid and dedicated self improvement I have reach a reasonably good level.. You will find you go from level to level with each level giving you greater control and easier access to memories
If you develop the skill of deep meditation and combine that with the skill of self hypnosis while meditating .... you will find this is a powerful tool
This is just a couple of things from 57 pages and did for self therapy
 
Hi John,

I would also take steps to preserve this knowledge and experience for posterity. I'm not sure how. Maybe you could make some extra copies and find some folks who would be interested. Maybe scan and email instead. I really am not sure, or sure what would be best or appropriate. It just seems like a waste to me for so much hard-won knowledge and information to be lost.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S .... Hope you got through the hurricane OK... with no damage to your family and property....Its interesting what you say and I have never thought about saving anything of what I have learnt...I don't want to be over dramatic but some I could never share because of how it could be used... Also it needs to be a slow development of skills and abilities.. it would be dangerous to jump off the deep end to begin with...Anyone can get a book and just flip through to the important area's.. that could never be allowed to happen with this.. so its far more complicated that you think.. I could post some things from the 57 pages in anyone is interested..

Regards
 
Hi John,

We did OK. Some trees down, some of which barely missed my father-in-laws house, and two weeks of disruption to work and normative life. We did a lot better in this part of the state than did some others, but I appreciate your concern. Thanks.

In terms of your writing, I don't think what you have should be widely disseminated in full, if only because I think you would not want such deep and hard sought information to be the sport of the ignorant and frivolous. You may not be a believer in Jesus, but there is something to what he said about not casting your pearls before swine.

In terms of the information being dangerous, I suppose there may be a possibility. However, my understanding, reinforced not only by my own experience but by many others (including yours), is that various "powers" and insights can only be manipulated and/or accessed after much arduous effort of the type you have spoken of yourself. Very few will ever take such a path, and of those, only an infinitesimal number will stick with it to the end. The merely evil as well as those lacking extreme dedication and interest will not have the "iron" and determination in their characters and lives to ever make much of, or utilize, the type of things you have spoken about, even if they were interested. And, as you know by experience, it takes much more than mere interest.

So, in answer to your question: Yes, I believe that many would be interested in posted excerpts. However, I still think it is worthwhile to consider sending it complete to someone who can appreciate it for what it reveals--subject to whatever promises of secrecy you may wish to have made. Actually, the person that comes immediately to mind on this board--based on interest, background and character (to the extent I can tell from posts) is Blueheart. There are certainly others with character and interest, but I think her background in the things of Egypt would make her an apt choice.

This is not to eliminate all other possibilities. There are a variety of deep and, to my mind, reliable people on this board. Many could be suitable, but Blueheart is the person who comes most immediately to my mind.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

Something else was percolating at the back of my mind when I wrote my last post: whether there was any way to leave what you have written so that it could be available and recoverable by you (as you are then) on your return. Lots of people have mentioned this over time--the wish that they could leave a message for themselves or something that would be permanent that could be found by themselves (as they are then) at some future date.

It seems to me that what you have written would possibly answer a lot of questions and speed things up a lot for you (as you will be then) on the next round. Of course, I don't know how you could do this. It would be nice if there was some way you could put a copy on very high quality paper (very low acid content) or some other very durable form that would last in a sealed container for a century or so, and have it secreted somewhere in Egypt. I think that there are those in higher dimensions who would guide the one who needed it to its location when the time came.

So, maybe a crazy idea, but there it is.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S thanks for your input and interest.. It's a little different to what you think ... There is no need for John Tat to leave anything behind...some of what I have to say in other posts about my 57 pages will explain what I mean.. I'm trying to keep what I will talk about in context... I'm finding it difficult because what I wrote to myself is written with the understandings of what I was writing about which is very different to explaining what I wrote about.. Looking through it there is not much I'm prepared to share but some things I think are important
I'm doing my best right now to understand "BB" my pure spiritual self.. the more I learn the more confused I become... what I'm becoming more and more aware off is... we have little or no control over who we really are... our spiritual selves... I'm working on a post from my 57 pages

Regards
 
I will do my best to explain some things....when I looked at doing this I understood what I wrote to myself in a sentence or two would require much more than that in explanation of what I wrote to myself
I'm not trying to change or influence what anyone believes in ... Its all what I believe to be true so make of what I say what you will
Before I begin I believe its important to understand what I believe to be true is different to you and the words I use are many times not what others use.. I'm going to repeat myself with why but its important to those who have not seen it before so they can put what I say into context
I have great difficulty in comprehending complicated written words and beliefs... When I look back this was the major reason I only went to 10th grade at school... When my parents asked why I was doing so badly my teachers would always tell them "John lacks concentration" which is all they could put it down to back then
These problems I had at school have never gone away.. the problems I have are just as bad today.. With complicated writings when I study a sentence to try and work at out what is being said I have to then google what some of the words mean then try to figure out what those words mean in the context of the sentence and then try and understand what the sentence is saying then figure out where that sentence fits into what is being said.. sometimes its many sentences before or after... its all to much for me.. Wikipedia is good for me.. it often has simple explanations and I can click on words and see what they mean and how they fit into what is being said...spell check is great
I write as I speak.. but for reasons I do not understand different to speaking as I write things I need to go back over what I have written and put it in its proper order
As I result of all of this I have had to find my own way... and why what I believe to be true may be very different to you and the words I use are also different
To begin with Its important to understand where our previous incarnation memories are.. If you go searching in the wrong places then its all a waste of time and effort
Its impossible for a new and different brain to have any previous incarnation memories of your spiritual self..Our brains along with everything else physical about us dies never to return.. It doesn't matter what your believe or what tools you use searching your brain for these memories you will never find them... they are not there.... Physical memory is something like a computers temporary memory.. When we turn the computer off (when we die) all temporary memory is lost
Your spiritual self has all of the memories of all of the past and current incarnations.. You spiritual self records memories in real time and if you develop the abilities to access visual previous incarnation memories you will experience them in real time... Again something like a computer.... spiritual memory is permanent memory... When the computer is turned off (when we die) permanent memory is not lost and there for next time
Imagination is a powerful force....I fought against imagination for years.. As I tort myself to meditate in deeper states imagination slowly went away... I found what I wanted and/or what I wanted to happen and it also to be true turned into images and thoughts generated by my imagination... very powerful stuff especially when I wanted it to be true
There is only one of use.. the spiritual us .. not multiple physical entities we have occupied....all who died never to return..they are irrelevant to our spiritual selves
That's enough for this post next time I want to talk about the differences between physical and spiritual memory... they are different in how they are recorded
As I said at the beginning...this is all me .. I'm not trying to convince anyone
 
John Tat said:
I will do my best to explain some things....when I looked at doing this I understood what I wrote to myself in a sentence or two would require much more than that in explanation of what I wrote to myself
I'm not trying to change or influence what anyone believes in ... Its all what I believe to be true so make of what I say what you will
Before I begin I believe its important to understand what I believe to be true is different to you and the words I use are many times not what others use.. I'm going to repeat myself with why but its important to those who have not seen it before so they can put what I say into context
I have great difficulty in comprehending complicated written words and beliefs... When I look back this was the major reason I only went to 10th grade at school... When my parents asked why I was doing so badly my teachers would always tell them "John lacks concentration" which is all they could put it down to back then
These problems I had at school have never gone away.. the problems I have are just as bad today.. With complicated writings when I study a sentence to try and work at out what is being said I have to then google what some of the words mean then try to figure out what those words mean in the context of the sentence and then try and understand what the sentence is saying then figure out where that sentence fits into what is being said.. sometimes its many sentences before or after... its all to much for me.. Wikipedia is good for me.. it often has simple explanations and I can click on words and see what they mean and how they fit into what is being said...spell check is great
I write as I speak.. but for reasons I do not understand different to speaking as I write things I need to go back over what I have written and put it in its proper order
As I result of all of this I have had to find my own way... and why what I believe to be true may be very different to you and the words I use are also different
To begin with Its important to understand where our previous incarnation memories are.. If you go searching in the wrong places then its all a waste of time and effort
Its impossible for a new and different brain to have any previous incarnation memories of your spiritual self..Our brains along with everything else physical about us dies never to return.. It doesn't matter what your believe or what tools you use searching your brain for these memories you will never find them... they are not there.... Physical memory is something like a computers temporary memory.. When we turn the computer off (when we die) all temporary memory is lost
Your spiritual self has all of the memories of all of the past and current incarnations.. You spiritual self records memories in real time and if you develop the abilities to access visual previous incarnation memories you will experience them in real time... Again something like a computer.... spiritual memory is permanent memory... When the computer is turned off (when we die) permanent memory is not lost and there for next time
Imagination is a powerful force....I fought against imagination for years.. As I tort myself to meditate in deeper states imagination slowly went away... I found what I wanted and/or what I wanted to happen and it also to be true turned into images and thoughts generated by my imagination... very powerful stuff especially when I wanted it to be true
There is only one of use.. the spiritual us .. not multiple physical entities we have occupied....all who died never to return..they are irrelevant to our spiritual selves
That's enough for this post next time I want to talk about the differences between physical and spiritual memory... they are different in how they are recorded
As I said at the beginning...this is all me .. I'm not trying to convince anyone
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Hi, I have been away from the forum and very little time to read all questions and answers.

I am glad that you recognize that is only your opinion. I know that its hard for some people to believe that the soul re-incarnate into a new body. And dont believe that the brain is the blue print of the soul. I was told that, so many years ago by a Catholic Priest and the same words were told to me again many years earlier by the Psycologiest.
What would you tell a child that it comes into this world with the memories of the past? Like I DID! I remember that my soul was above a woman who was ready to bear a child...and when I saw the child coming out of the woman wom, and when it took her first breath...MY SOUL WAS SUCK IN in to this body. And what transpire throughout all does years that I was growing up, were tones of memories of Egypt and how I acted with my parents in this present life.
I am telling the world, my whole life story, as it was in EGYPT in my book.
"HATSHEPSUT THE WOMAN WHO WAS PHARAOH." it is in the final face of the editing. It will be in Kindle books.
I personally can say to the members of this forum...Dont stop in your search for your truth; because someting inside of you, is telling you, you were here onces or many other times before. I wish that everyone of you would have memories since you were born like I did. It would be wonderfull for all of us to meet some were and talk of our past lives memories.
In my book I answer question pose by historian and arqueologiest, and also who's body is really laying in the Cairo Museum.
Let me tell you, that yes, and only by the graces of GOD ALMIGHTY and through his power, he made it possible for me to come back here. And yes! God does exist; I also explain that in my book. And why I came back and was for only one reason, And it was to find SEN-MUT and tell him the truth. AND I DID found him, in 1982.
Reguards,

HATSHEPSUT
 
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Is there such a thing as spiritual memory?...does our spiritual self have memory?.. To believe that you would first need to believe there is a spiritual you that reincarnates..As I have said before I'm not sure about a soul or if the spiritual us is another name for a soul... It's interesting that many people talk about spirits but do not give to much or any thought about there own spirits.. I don't think many understand how different our spiritual self is to the physical entities we occupy... in other words they have little idea about who they really are... most are obsessed with who the multiple physical entities they occupied were.. and have no clue and don't appear to search out who they really are... there spiritual selves.. its a great journey to go on... searching for and getting to know and understand you spiritual self ...who you really are...I only have memories of events... I have no clue who I was occupying at the time .. That makes sense to me because there is only one of me that goes on and on... I never die

It's interesting how things over the years moulded my beliefs.. They were being moulded long before I had any idea about what was going on .. It was not until I was fifty twenty three years ago when I first became aware of my spiritual self when I was close to death did I begin the long journey of putting my experiences into context and then using them as the foundations as I searched for more knowledge.

My experiences began when I was around four years old maybe five I'm not really sure...this is when my nightmares began of the death of a physical entity my spiritual self was occupying during WWII

He was a pilot... Its interesting that its mostly only traumatic memories that are talked about.. I think it's because it's those that have a big and visible impact on a child ..
The nightmares went on for a couple of years.. My parents could not wake me up as I walked around the house screaming in a manner my parents later told me terrified them..I have vivid memories of every detail of the nightmare.. how I felt and what was going on.. none of which I understood at the time.. What I'm telling you about how these previous incarnation memories happens with children and what it feels like to a young child are my first hand experiences which is very different to never experiencing them....what I experienced and what I learnt from this experience were and a critical in me believing in spiritual memory

Going back to when I was having these nightmares .. Every time I woke up my mother would ask me what I was dreaming about.. and I told her the truth...there was a lot of noise Mom and I was really scaredThat was the truth... that's all I understood about the nightmare... Over the years as my brain matured I began to understand more and more about what I was dreaming about .. Around 16 I fully understood what was going on during the nightmare... It's interesting the dream then and still does scare me... I never wanted to talk about it...and I never told my parents... I'm not sure why I didn't. This experience of not understanding what was going on during the nightmare is significant and cannot be ignored....I have meditated on why and given it plenty of thought the only logical explanation is..
a young immature brain cannot comprehend even slightly complicated memory ... it does not have the capacity..

All my 4-5 year old brain understood was there was a lot of noise and I was really scared
This raises the most important question in all of he beliefs about children's previous incarnation memories.. If a young child's brain cannot comprehend the concept of who his parents really are then how can its brain understand and communicate even slightly complex memories..it cannot... I have experienced it cannot.. The roll of adults plays a big part in this area ...I could have been easily led by my parents and adults to believe what I was dreaming about...My young brain did not even know the words to describe what was going on and would have had no clue what the meaning of the words were even if I understood what was going on.
Why is all of this significant to spiritual memory?... because that is where the memory's were coming from...My experiences makes it simple and logical...if a young child has a memory it has no clue or understanding about... a memory it could have never experienced for many reasons including it has a new brain that has never existed before then the memory must be coming from some place else.

The only other place possible is our spiritual selves were all of the permanent memories are storedSpiritual memory is a complex and complicated thing... It records memories in real time.. I once thought physical memory and spiritual memory were not compatible.. but that's not right.. They have different formats and/or are on different wave lengths .. terrible words to use but that's the best I can come up with.. They need to be otherwise we would go insane if we had access to all of the memories of our spiritual selves.. This is why it's so difficult for us to access them
So how does a young brain access this different form of memory?

Again I have meditated plenty on it and given it plenty of thought... this combined with my own experiences and how it felt as a young child.. I believe I know.. Before the physical brain has developed to a certain level there can be times that the doorway to spiritual memory opens... just a fraction and spiritual memory in its different format or whatever it is floods into the young immature brain.. The child's brain allows or acknowledges or something like that those memories in because it has not developed the mechanisms to stop them.

.. That's a terrible description but it's the best I can do with my limited understandings of complicated words.. then the problem arises that the young immature brain cannot comprehend those memories
All of this is very important to understanding spiritual memory.. What it proved to me was.. the door to spiritual memory is not is not shut so tight that it cannot be opened... if only by a fraction
My experiences have proved you can open this door to spiritual memory through dedication and deep meditation. I have often wondered if these experiences of mine as a young child changed some things in my brain.. for the better or worse?...If they did it's probably for the worse because of my problems with complicated writings and things.. There are times it feels like there is a direct link between the two and my brain became a little confused between the different formats or whatever they are. There is also a possibility this understanding my brain may have has made it easier for me to communicate with my spiritual self.

As I said last time this is all me... I'm not trying to convict anyone
 
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