SAME FAMILY Reincarnation
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my son was my grandfather
Greetings to All,
This is my first posting. I am finally sharing our story after seeing the show on A&E channel earlier today.
I am a 48 year old mother of a 7 year old boy. My son began telling me when he could first talk, around the age of 1 1/2 - 2 yrs old, that he was my grandfather, and I was his grandaughter. He told me details of where we lived that sounded like a war-torn village. I asked him where my parents were, and did I have brothers and sisters? He said that they had all died. I asked him what we did and whether or not we were happy and had fun together? He said we were very happy together and laughed a lot, and we gardened together, which we have never done in this life together at that point. As he spoke, my mind went to areas of Tibet, and I took this as confirmation of where our village was, since I am very sensitive and trained to trust my own senses/memories/intuitions.
Perhaps two years later, when he was four, he saw pictures in a book store of the Dalai Lama, and announced to the clerk and to his father (my husband) that this was his teacher. (We had never named or discussed the Dalai Lama in our home at this point). I have since been collecting accounts of the time he spends with his teacher (on the inner planes) and what his teacher tells him when he meditates.
He began meditating on his own when he was about four. He currently sits every 2-3 weeks in a lotus position, which I have never taught him, for 20-30 minutes. Afterward, he tells me things he saw and learned while meditating. He has told me that he learned to fly, learned how to die, and learned how to float, among other things. He will sometimes awaken from dreaming with lessons that his teacher taught him or messages of his whereabouts.
A friend then told him about the 17th Karmapa, and my son has said that he is a teacher for him, too. (It was fun to hear a 4 year old pronounce the word "Karmapa")
He is a deeply calm, joyful, and serene person. Many people we know have told us that they feel blessed by his presence, his gaze, and his loving heart. He is a good student and a musician. He is extremely sensitive and caring. He is also mischeivous, authoratative, and direct, and clear.
We often wonder if he is a "tulku", or reincarnated Tibetan Lama. In actual fact, the astrologer who did his natal chart was amazed at the lack of work he must do in this life, and firmly stated that he was indeed a Rinpoche in his last lifetime. I don't know if the life in which I was his grandaughter was his last lifetime as well.
Does anyone have any comments or anything to share with me? It is a relief and a blessing to find this forum, already! Many thanks in advance, and Blessings, Amina
Greetings to All,
This is my first posting. I am finally sharing our story after seeing the show on A&E channel earlier today.
I am a 48 year old mother of a 7 year old boy. My son began telling me when he could first talk, around the age of 1 1/2 - 2 yrs old, that he was my grandfather, and I was his grandaughter. He told me details of where we lived that sounded like a war-torn village. I asked him where my parents were, and did I have brothers and sisters? He said that they had all died. I asked him what we did and whether or not we were happy and had fun together? He said we were very happy together and laughed a lot, and we gardened together, which we have never done in this life together at that point. As he spoke, my mind went to areas of Tibet, and I took this as confirmation of where our village was, since I am very sensitive and trained to trust my own senses/memories/intuitions.
Perhaps two years later, when he was four, he saw pictures in a book store of the Dalai Lama, and announced to the clerk and to his father (my husband) that this was his teacher. (We had never named or discussed the Dalai Lama in our home at this point). I have since been collecting accounts of the time he spends with his teacher (on the inner planes) and what his teacher tells him when he meditates.
He began meditating on his own when he was about four. He currently sits every 2-3 weeks in a lotus position, which I have never taught him, for 20-30 minutes. Afterward, he tells me things he saw and learned while meditating. He has told me that he learned to fly, learned how to die, and learned how to float, among other things. He will sometimes awaken from dreaming with lessons that his teacher taught him or messages of his whereabouts.
A friend then told him about the 17th Karmapa, and my son has said that he is a teacher for him, too. (It was fun to hear a 4 year old pronounce the word "Karmapa")
He is a deeply calm, joyful, and serene person. Many people we know have told us that they feel blessed by his presence, his gaze, and his loving heart. He is a good student and a musician. He is extremely sensitive and caring. He is also mischeivous, authoratative, and direct, and clear.
We often wonder if he is a "tulku", or reincarnated Tibetan Lama. In actual fact, the astrologer who did his natal chart was amazed at the lack of work he must do in this life, and firmly stated that he was indeed a Rinpoche in his last lifetime. I don't know if the life in which I was his grandaughter was his last lifetime as well.
Does anyone have any comments or anything to share with me? It is a relief and a blessing to find this forum, already! Many thanks in advance, and Blessings, Amina
Karoliina
Moderator Emerita
Hello Amina and welcome to the forum!
Your story is most fascinating! What a fine kid you have as a son!
It's very good you have wrote down your son's thoughts. Does he remember this past life actively or has it surfaced only a couple of times? Can he tell you more details of it? It's nice you're there to listen when he wants to share.
Is he fine with being like this, or does he mind being a bit different? Do his friends, for example, know he meditates and gets messages from his teacher?
Have you shown him books or documentaries about Tibet or Buddhism? I unfortunately don't know very much about this topic, but I'm sure we all appreciate Dalai Lama, and to me it sounds very much like your son has been a Buddhist monk or something similar in his past.
Do you have your own past life memories Amina?
Thanks for sharing this amazing story of your son!
Karoliina
Your story is most fascinating! What a fine kid you have as a son!
It's very good you have wrote down your son's thoughts. Does he remember this past life actively or has it surfaced only a couple of times? Can he tell you more details of it? It's nice you're there to listen when he wants to share.
Is he fine with being like this, or does he mind being a bit different? Do his friends, for example, know he meditates and gets messages from his teacher?
Have you shown him books or documentaries about Tibet or Buddhism? I unfortunately don't know very much about this topic, but I'm sure we all appreciate Dalai Lama, and to me it sounds very much like your son has been a Buddhist monk or something similar in his past.
Do you have your own past life memories Amina?
Thanks for sharing this amazing story of your son!
Karoliina
Chelle
Probationary
Welcome, Amina. 
What a fascinating story you share about your son. Life must be very interesting and enlightening in your home. I'm glad to hear you are writing everything down for him. I'm sure he will appreciate that if he doesn't already.
It sounds to me as thought Tibetian culture is still strongly with him and although like Karoliina, I know little about the topic, I agree that he was probably a monk or some other holy person in at least one, probably more, of his past lives.
Have you ever tried meditating with you son?
Chelle
What a fascinating story you share about your son. Life must be very interesting and enlightening in your home. I'm glad to hear you are writing everything down for him. I'm sure he will appreciate that if he doesn't already.
It sounds to me as thought Tibetian culture is still strongly with him and although like Karoliina, I know little about the topic, I agree that he was probably a monk or some other holy person in at least one, probably more, of his past lives.
Have you ever tried meditating with you son?
Chelle
Monica Gabriell
Senior Registered
My daughter and my grandmother
When my daughter was two years old she was playing and suddenly stopped and said: "I was your grandmother, mummy, you respect me".
I was astonished because her talking was very different than her usual "baby talk", and even her tone of voice was that of a grown-up. However, I didn't pay much attention because at that time I didn't believe in reincarnation.
However, my two-year old continued saying that from time to time, until approximately the age of 4-5, when she stopped it.
Recently a psychic said to me that my maternal grandmother had come back to this world a long time ago, because she was concerned about my wellbeing. She said that my granny had been re-born into my family, and asked me if I knew that.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
I would like to know from anyone who has.
Love from
Monica Gabriell :laugh: :thumbsup:
When my daughter was two years old she was playing and suddenly stopped and said: "I was your grandmother, mummy, you respect me".
I was astonished because her talking was very different than her usual "baby talk", and even her tone of voice was that of a grown-up. However, I didn't pay much attention because at that time I didn't believe in reincarnation.
However, my two-year old continued saying that from time to time, until approximately the age of 4-5, when she stopped it.
Recently a psychic said to me that my maternal grandmother had come back to this world a long time ago, because she was concerned about my wellbeing. She said that my granny had been re-born into my family, and asked me if I knew that.
Has anyone had a similar experience?
I would like to know from anyone who has.
Love from
Monica Gabriell :laugh: :thumbsup:
AuroraBelle22
Member
I'm reading "Return from Heaven" right now, it's a great book. It only makes sense to me that we'd reincarnate into families we know ... I think that's the meaning of soul mates and soul families, they are people we've shared many lives with and will continue to share lives with. That's really cool that you know you're daughter may be your grandmother. There are people in my family that I share close bonds with who I'm sure I've known in other lives, but I'm not sure who they (or I) have been. I've always felt this strong connection to my great-grandmother (my mom's mom's mom) who died 7 years before I was born. My grandmother (her daughter) has given me lots of things that belonged to her mom, and she hasn't done this with any of her other grandkids, and I've always been very curious to know about her mother's life (she'd always tell me stories about her, and I loved hearing them) and so I wonder sometimes if I could have been her, or at least known her in that lifetime.
Monica Gabriell
Senior Registered
Things my daughter likes
Hi,
Re my daughter's likes and dislikes, yes, she shares many tastes with my grandmother. Such as, perfume, some clothing, and seems to have some similarities with her physically too.
Also, her attitude towards me has always been protective, even since she was little. If I was sick, she would try to stay by my bed like my grandmother did, and it was really difficult to take her to her bed at night!!.
Now she "advises" me, and tells me to "drive carefully", when I'm going out in my car!!
Hi,
Re my daughter's likes and dislikes, yes, she shares many tastes with my grandmother. Such as, perfume, some clothing, and seems to have some similarities with her physically too.
Also, her attitude towards me has always been protective, even since she was little. If I was sick, she would try to stay by my bed like my grandmother did, and it was really difficult to take her to her bed at night!!.
Now she "advises" me, and tells me to "drive carefully", when I'm going out in my car!!
Poetic Justice
Probationary
This thread is very interesting, :thumbsup: because I have a nephew who has the same ways and personality of one of my cousins who's dead now, my sister and I were discussing how much alike they are and how he even looks like my cousin, he has other personality traits like him too. This was before I even believed in reincarnation and my sis doesn't believe in it either but even she has noticed how much he's like our cousin.
The thing that gets me too, is that he has the same unique knock that my cousin had! He has never met my cousin, and no one else has ever knocked like he does on a door, and I know he has never heard that knock before but he knocks just like my cousin!
That was really wierd and this was before I believed in reincarnation, I was like OMG I wondered if the way a person knocks be inherited? LOL! Now I have to wonder because I don't think people inherit genes like how to knock on a door. LOL! I know that knock because my cousin used to knock just like that every time he came over, and now my nephew does the same thing when he comes over and he's only 8yrs old!
I can't explain the knock but it's a wierd knock that no one else does and I've never heard anyone knock like that except him. The best way I can explain it is my cousin would come and pause at the door, wait a minute, then knock real hard and loud 6 fast times like the house is on fire or like you are deaf or something, then pause and knock 2 more times. Then when you say who is it, he won't answer and will wait for you to open the door. He did that till the day he died, and now my 8 yr old nephew does the same thing exactly like that.
Pause at the door listen, then fast loud "house is on fire" knocks, pause about 3 seconds then knock 2 more times, then don't answer when you say who is it. LOL! Even though I know who it is, and I was like wow that's wierd they have the same knock and my cousin died before my nephew was born. Very interesitng. Most people just knock normally like in a normal speed and loudness, he kind of bangs, on the door, that's what I'm trying to say like a loud banging. LOL! 6 loud bangs, pause, then 2 more times then don't answer when you ask who it is. LOL!
I just thought that was interesting. This is like on a bedroom door or bathroom door, or a door to a room inside, not the door to the outside because we have a doorbell.
The thing that gets me too, is that he has the same unique knock that my cousin had! He has never met my cousin, and no one else has ever knocked like he does on a door, and I know he has never heard that knock before but he knocks just like my cousin!
That was really wierd and this was before I believed in reincarnation, I was like OMG I wondered if the way a person knocks be inherited? LOL! Now I have to wonder because I don't think people inherit genes like how to knock on a door. LOL! I know that knock because my cousin used to knock just like that every time he came over, and now my nephew does the same thing when he comes over and he's only 8yrs old!
I can't explain the knock but it's a wierd knock that no one else does and I've never heard anyone knock like that except him. The best way I can explain it is my cousin would come and pause at the door, wait a minute, then knock real hard and loud 6 fast times like the house is on fire or like you are deaf or something, then pause and knock 2 more times. Then when you say who is it, he won't answer and will wait for you to open the door. He did that till the day he died, and now my 8 yr old nephew does the same thing exactly like that.
Pause at the door listen, then fast loud "house is on fire" knocks, pause about 3 seconds then knock 2 more times, then don't answer when you say who is it. LOL! Even though I know who it is, and I was like wow that's wierd they have the same knock and my cousin died before my nephew was born. Very interesitng. Most people just knock normally like in a normal speed and loudness, he kind of bangs, on the door, that's what I'm trying to say like a loud banging. LOL! 6 loud bangs, pause, then 2 more times then don't answer when you ask who it is. LOL!
I just thought that was interesting.
This is like on a bedroom door or bathroom door, or a door to a room inside, not the door to the outside because we have a doorbell. My Granddaughter used to hold me in her arms when I was a baby.
My Granddaughter (Ruby) has made several references to ‘when she was big’. She is not quite 3 years old but always insists that she is one year older than she really is. Once I gave her a donut, she took a small bite and gave it back. I asked her if she like donuts and she said, “I liked them when I was big”. Yesterday I was pushing her on her swing and she was being introspective. I reached to push her and she totally floored me with a very simple direct statement. She looked at me and said, “When I was big, I used to hold you in my arms like this”. She lifted her left arm up like she was cradling a baby in one arm. I was too stunned to think of a reply.
Later I thought of all of the people that could have held me as a baby that also have Ruby’s social graces. (Ever since Ruby was 20 months old she has been making people feel comfortable and special when they are around her. She can go into a room with new kids and within a few minutes she will know every kids name. If anyone new comes into the room Ruby will introduce them to everyone else in the room.) I can not think of anyone that comes close to her social capabilities. My daughter suggested that maybe it wasn’t this life that Ruby knew me.
So the question, how do I encourage her to talk more about this and what questions do I ask?
My Granddaughter (Ruby) has made several references to ‘when she was big’. She is not quite 3 years old but always insists that she is one year older than she really is. Once I gave her a donut, she took a small bite and gave it back. I asked her if she like donuts and she said, “I liked them when I was big”. Yesterday I was pushing her on her swing and she was being introspective. I reached to push her and she totally floored me with a very simple direct statement. She looked at me and said, “When I was big, I used to hold you in my arms like this”. She lifted her left arm up like she was cradling a baby in one arm. I was too stunned to think of a reply.
Later I thought of all of the people that could have held me as a baby that also have Ruby’s social graces. (Ever since Ruby was 20 months old she has been making people feel comfortable and special when they are around her. She can go into a room with new kids and within a few minutes she will know every kids name. If anyone new comes into the room Ruby will introduce them to everyone else in the room.) I can not think of anyone that comes close to her social capabilities. My daughter suggested that maybe it wasn’t this life that Ruby knew me.
So the question, how do I encourage her to talk more about this and what questions do I ask?
Fab
Senior Registered
Hi PaPaChuck and welcome to the forum!
What a special little girl! Kids don't ever seem to stop amazing me.
Have you read Return From Heaven and/or Children's Past Lives by Carol Bowman yet? They are great! Keeping a journal is also a good idea. Write down everything Ruby says. It might not make much sense now but it can be important later.
Since she is still very young, i believe that the best think to do is to let her memories come to the surface spontaneously instead of asking too many questions.
Thanks for sharing Ruby's story with us and keep us posted!
What a special little girl! Kids don't ever seem to stop amazing me.
Have you read Return From Heaven and/or Children's Past Lives by Carol Bowman yet? They are great! Keeping a journal is also a good idea. Write down everything Ruby says. It might not make much sense now but it can be important later.
Since she is still very young, i believe that the best think to do is to let her memories come to the surface spontaneously instead of asking too many questions.
Thanks for sharing Ruby's story with us and keep us posted!
Hi Papa Chuck,
How lucky Ruby is that you are listening to her and that you are willing to explore this!!!!! Just based on my own experience with my son who actually said the exact same thing about 'holding me when he was big, I'd say that its best to let them talk and ask very few questions. Then, like Fab said, write everythig down.
Buying the books is great. Children's Past Lives is very easy to read and you could gain a lot of basic knowledge about this from that book. However, Return From Heaven has a lot more specifically about children returning to their own families.
Ruby sounds like a special little girl. Please keep us posted. Oh!! Reading other stories here on the forum is a good idea too.
Vicky
How lucky Ruby is that you are listening to her and that you are willing to explore this!!!!! Just based on my own experience with my son who actually said the exact same thing about 'holding me when he was big, I'd say that its best to let them talk and ask very few questions. Then, like Fab said, write everythig down.
Buying the books is great. Children's Past Lives is very easy to read and you could gain a lot of basic knowledge about this from that book. However, Return From Heaven has a lot more specifically about children returning to their own families.
Ruby sounds like a special little girl. Please keep us posted. Oh!! Reading other stories here on the forum is a good idea too.
Vicky
First of all, I am guessing that she is referring to your present life. If that is the case, the questions to ask her should focus on you, not her, i.e., her memories of you. Examples of some questions: what kind of a baby was I, was I cute, clever, naughty, etc.? But I think you should ask questions only when she brings up the subject herself, because that would be an indication that she wants to talk about it and is not likely to make up answers just to please you.
Curious
New Member
I don't have any advice to give but I think your grandbaby sounds sweet. Reminded me of what my brother said once when we were little (never would leave my memory it was strange!)
We were all sitting at christmas dinner and he says "Do you remember before when I was older then (my name)?" He was only around 5 at the time. I don't think anything these kids say should be taken half heartily. Every word is innocent and truthful.
We were all sitting at christmas dinner and he says "Do you remember before when I was older then (my name)?" He was only around 5 at the time. I don't think anything these kids say should be taken half heartily. Every word is innocent and truthful.
The proper way to hold a child
Thank all of you for your replies. I have ordered both of Carol Bowman’s books as recommended by Fab and Vicky. Thank you kris0503 and Curious for your thoughtful remarks.
I have thought of little else since this incident. Today I had a flash of insight that may help explain why Ruby picked this particular statement. The evening before, just as we were setting down for dinner, she ran off to the neighbors. I went after her and when I finally caught up to her I was a bit irritated. I picked her up like a log and carried her on my hip back to our house. She was not happy about this.
Ruby and her mother stayed over night because the next day was Easter Sunday. My wife and I went to Sunrise services. When we returned Ruby was up and very excited. She exclaimed the Easter Bunny had come and he had made a mess all over the house with his eggs. She had cleaned the mess up for us.
Later when I was pushing her on the swing, I think she used that moment to try to teach me the proper way to hold a child.
Thank all of you for your replies. I have ordered both of Carol Bowman’s books as recommended by Fab and Vicky. Thank you kris0503 and Curious for your thoughtful remarks.
I have thought of little else since this incident. Today I had a flash of insight that may help explain why Ruby picked this particular statement. The evening before, just as we were setting down for dinner, she ran off to the neighbors. I went after her and when I finally caught up to her I was a bit irritated. I picked her up like a log and carried her on my hip back to our house. She was not happy about this.
Ruby and her mother stayed over night because the next day was Easter Sunday. My wife and I went to Sunrise services. When we returned Ruby was up and very excited. She exclaimed the Easter Bunny had come and he had made a mess all over the house with his eggs. She had cleaned the mess up for us.
Later when I was pushing her on the swing, I think she used that moment to try to teach me the proper way to hold a child.
Hi PapaChuck,
I think you're right about kids sometimes saying things like Ruby said to try to affect change. I would just have a couple of questions. The first is: are you still curious about the other statements that Ruby made about 'when she was big?' I don't know Ruby but I definitely believe you do. Is she a more direct child? Most kids at three years old would say something very definitive about something they don't like. Something along the lines of 'put me down or don't carry me like that.' Some three year olds might not be developmentally ready to think of a way to tell you that they didn't like being carried that way at a later time and in a way that was not confrontational. Some are though.
So, I was wondering if Ruby has ever said anything like that (telling you how she carried you in order to get you to carry her differently next time) in the past? Obviously not this particular example but I was mostly wondering if she has ever demonstrated this level of communication skills before this.
Sorry this sounds so confusing.
Vicky
I think you're right about kids sometimes saying things like Ruby said to try to affect change. I would just have a couple of questions. The first is: are you still curious about the other statements that Ruby made about 'when she was big?' I don't know Ruby but I definitely believe you do. Is she a more direct child? Most kids at three years old would say something very definitive about something they don't like. Something along the lines of 'put me down or don't carry me like that.' Some three year olds might not be developmentally ready to think of a way to tell you that they didn't like being carried that way at a later time and in a way that was not confrontational. Some are though.
So, I was wondering if Ruby has ever said anything like that (telling you how she carried you in order to get you to carry her differently next time) in the past? Obviously not this particular example but I was mostly wondering if she has ever demonstrated this level of communication skills before this.
Sorry this sounds so confusing.
Vicky
Ruby's verbal skills
Vicky thank you for your input.
Ruby is definitely verbally adept. Her mother has never let her whine or cry to get what she wants. She has always been told to ‘use your words’ to ask for what she wants. At a year and half she demonstrated advanced verbal skills. I had her for breakfast one morning. I took a sip of coffee and it went down the wrong pipe. I choked. Ruby asked me if I was all right. I couldn’t understand what she was saying and asked her to repeat it. Again she said, “Are you all right?” Again I couldn’t understand the last part of what she was saying, so I said, “Ruby, I’m sorry I don’t understand what you are saying. Could you use different words?” She got a far away look on her face and then said, “Are you OK?”
I was first impressed with her as a child of one and a half years having the compassion to ask if I was all right and then with her ability to have more than one way to ask me.
One time I asked her what she did ‘when she was big’ and she said she was a teacher.
Vicky thank you for your input.
Ruby is definitely verbally adept. Her mother has never let her whine or cry to get what she wants. She has always been told to ‘use your words’ to ask for what she wants. At a year and half she demonstrated advanced verbal skills. I had her for breakfast one morning. I took a sip of coffee and it went down the wrong pipe. I choked. Ruby asked me if I was all right. I couldn’t understand what she was saying and asked her to repeat it. Again she said, “Are you all right?” Again I couldn’t understand the last part of what she was saying, so I said, “Ruby, I’m sorry I don’t understand what you are saying. Could you use different words?” She got a far away look on her face and then said, “Are you OK?”
I was first impressed with her as a child of one and a half years having the compassion to ask if I was all right and then with her ability to have more than one way to ask me.
One time I asked her what she did ‘when she was big’ and she said she was a teacher.
The Seed has been Planted
I have been thinking about the impact of Ruby coming into my life and trying to do a reverse look at where this idea or process started. In other words where was the seed planted to bring all of the people together for this event?
My feelings have been that it was instigated a little over 22 years ago when I met my wife. I have a very distinct feeling of marking time for 22 years waiting for this event to take place. I don’t want to trivialize our marriage; it has been a wonderful 22 years. We have loved and enjoyed each other immensely, and still do. We have raised two wonderful children. Both of which are very successful. No matter how I try to put this feeling out of my mind or try to minimize it, it keeps coming back.
I hadn’t discussed this with my wife or step-daughter. I guess I am embarrassed for having this feeling. Then last night I overheard my wife, on the phone with her daughter say; “It’s just like Ruby brought Chuck into our lives so she could be here for whatever she has in mind”. I was dumbfounded. I had no idea that she was having similar feelings. Latter I asked her about it and she confirmed that she thought Ruby was an old soul and had a very strong agenda for this life.
We both discussed it and both feel that something special is going on and we are in a supporting role for whatever it is. My biggest problem is that it is difficult to be objective in analyzing what is happening. I am so totally taken by this child that I don’t think I can be objective. Without objectivity I am stuck here with my own prejudiced perception of what is going on. And, while that might make a touching story about an old man that is in love with his grand daughter, it does nothing to further our research into reincarnation.
The seed has been planted and it has lain dormant for many years. Now spring has come into the autumn of my life. I hope the preparations that I have made will be worthy.
I have been thinking about the impact of Ruby coming into my life and trying to do a reverse look at where this idea or process started. In other words where was the seed planted to bring all of the people together for this event?
My feelings have been that it was instigated a little over 22 years ago when I met my wife. I have a very distinct feeling of marking time for 22 years waiting for this event to take place. I don’t want to trivialize our marriage; it has been a wonderful 22 years. We have loved and enjoyed each other immensely, and still do. We have raised two wonderful children. Both of which are very successful. No matter how I try to put this feeling out of my mind or try to minimize it, it keeps coming back.
I hadn’t discussed this with my wife or step-daughter. I guess I am embarrassed for having this feeling. Then last night I overheard my wife, on the phone with her daughter say; “It’s just like Ruby brought Chuck into our lives so she could be here for whatever she has in mind”. I was dumbfounded. I had no idea that she was having similar feelings. Latter I asked her about it and she confirmed that she thought Ruby was an old soul and had a very strong agenda for this life.
We both discussed it and both feel that something special is going on and we are in a supporting role for whatever it is. My biggest problem is that it is difficult to be objective in analyzing what is happening. I am so totally taken by this child that I don’t think I can be objective. Without objectivity I am stuck here with my own prejudiced perception of what is going on. And, while that might make a touching story about an old man that is in love with his grand daughter, it does nothing to further our research into reincarnation.
The seed has been planted and it has lain dormant for many years. Now spring has come into the autumn of my life. I hope the preparations that I have made will be worthy.
How beautiful Chuck!. I don't know if there is a preparation for love other than making the heart fertile for it. If reincarnation exists or not, nothing will negate the effect of Ruby and your love for her on your lives.
If there is a cosmic reason, my guess is it will show itself soon enough.
Blessings.
Vicky
If there is a cosmic reason, my guess is it will show itself soon enough.
Blessings.
Vicky
Vicki you always have a way of saying just what is needed. I looked at one of your earlier posts and was very taken with the following statement you made:
“However, when he tells me that I have to listen to him because he has been born more times than I have or has been to heaven more times than i have, I tell him that may or may not be true but either way he helped God choose me to be his mommy in this life, I'm here to love him, keep him safe, make sure he takes a bath etc. I'm thinking just because a child remembers past lives, doesn't mean they get to be snotty to their mother about it.”
Ruby can be a handful at times too. Sometimes she is on her own path without regard to her own safety or physical well being.
“However, when he tells me that I have to listen to him because he has been born more times than I have or has been to heaven more times than i have, I tell him that may or may not be true but either way he helped God choose me to be his mommy in this life, I'm here to love him, keep him safe, make sure he takes a bath etc. I'm thinking just because a child remembers past lives, doesn't mean they get to be snotty to their mother about it.”
Ruby can be a handful at times too. Sometimes she is on her own path without regard to her own safety or physical well being.
Wicker
Senior Registered
Hi Chuck,
Well, yes, it is difficult to be objective when one is so emotionally involved. I appreciate your caution in claiming anything reincarnational about your grand daughter. Maybe something more will come up in the next couple of years that will help you to understand your grand daughter's role in your life now. So many times people get caught up in their emotions that they cloud the scientific investigation of possible reincarnation cases. I think that you are very wise to take an objective perspective on this case and just let it play out as it will.
Your friend, Wicker
Well, yes, it is difficult to be objective when one is so emotionally involved. I appreciate your caution in claiming anything reincarnational about your grand daughter. Maybe something more will come up in the next couple of years that will help you to understand your grand daughter's role in your life now. So many times people get caught up in their emotions that they cloud the scientific investigation of possible reincarnation cases. I think that you are very wise to take an objective perspective on this case and just let it play out as it will.
Your friend, Wicker
Rebirth as your Mother, maybe..
Hi ever one.
well my son ross and amber just had his little girl ten days ago at seven pounds named payton.
well the day after payton was born my mother came in to my dream and showed me her as a baby and she look just like payton.
i think my mother was telling me, she is payton.
my wife told me not to say any thing too our son or amber.
what do you think ?
ever time my wife or me hold payton she just stops crying, ever time.
my mother died twenty six years ago and we were close to her.
thanks.
winthrop
Hi ever one.
well my son ross and amber just had his little girl ten days ago at seven pounds named payton.
well the day after payton was born my mother came in to my dream and showed me her as a baby and she look just like payton.
i think my mother was telling me, she is payton.
my wife told me not to say any thing too our son or amber.
what do you think ?
ever time my wife or me hold payton she just stops crying, ever time.
my mother died twenty six years ago and we were close to her.
thanks.
winthrop
Ailish
Administrator Emerita
Hi Winthrop,
Congratulations on the birth of your new granddaughter.
I think it's pretty hard to judge if Payton is your mother at this point. I would say it's a possibility -- and to pay attention to any dreams you have about either your mother or Payton. I'd suggest writing them down in a special journal for her, so if at some point she does start speaking about a past life -- you have it all in front of you to refer to.
Have you read Carol's books yet? If not, I'd highly recommend getting them. You might be interested in starting out with "Return From Heaven" first, as it deals with same family reincarnation.
Best of luck,
Ailish
Congratulations on the birth of your new granddaughter.
I think it's pretty hard to judge if Payton is your mother at this point. I would say it's a possibility -- and to pay attention to any dreams you have about either your mother or Payton. I'd suggest writing them down in a special journal for her, so if at some point she does start speaking about a past life -- you have it all in front of you to refer to.
Have you read Carol's books yet? If not, I'd highly recommend getting them. You might be interested in starting out with "Return From Heaven" first, as it deals with same family reincarnation.
Best of luck,
Ailish
Ailish
Administrator Emerita
Hi Raj
In my opinion, that sounds like pretty compelling evidence. It at least gives credence to the possibility that your cousin is your uncle reborn. It's always good to question -- and to search for validation.
Perhaps you would enjoy reading Carol's books as well.
Ailish
In my opinion, that sounds like pretty compelling evidence.
It at least gives credence to the possibility that your cousin is your uncle reborn. It's always good to question -- and to search for validation.Perhaps you would enjoy reading Carol's books as well.
Ailish
Hi Ailish and Vicky,Raj..:thumbsup:
first, let me say thank you...
Ailish and Vicky...
yes, i have read the first book of Carol's "return to heaven" and its a good book, never read any thing like that before...
and i just started the other book called "children's past lives".
which i like so far.
and Raj...
when i lived over seas for twenty years growing up and the ways are very different then in the U.S.
I went from scotland to the middle east and all over by sea and air, it was fun and different and i learned allot about the people and thier ways.
i have been dreaming about my mother and payton all ready four time sense then and i do under stand to wait until she can talk.
I have gone to a dream site and they think i could be right,as well. but i need to wait until she starts to talk...
thank you all...
winthrop
first, let me say thank you...
Ailish and Vicky...
yes, i have read the first book of Carol's "return to heaven" and its a good book, never read any thing like that before...
and i just started the other book called "children's past lives".
which i like so far.
and Raj...
when i lived over seas for twenty years growing up and the ways are very different then in the U.S.
I went from scotland to the middle east and all over by sea and air, it was fun and different and i learned allot about the people and thier ways.
i have been dreaming about my mother and payton all ready four time sense then and i do under stand to wait until she can talk.
I have gone to a dream site and they think i could be right,as well. but i need to wait until she starts to talk...
thank you all...
winthrop
Ailish
Administrator Emerita
Hi Winthrop,
That's wonderful! I really hope you're writing it down for her. My grandma kept a special journal for me -- and it is one of my most cherished possessions.
I also hope that you'll share more of Payton's story with us -- once she learns to talk. It will be interesting to hear an update.
Ailish
That's wonderful! I really hope you're writing it down for her. My grandma kept a special journal for me -- and it is one of my most cherished possessions.
I also hope that you'll share more of Payton's story with us -- once she learns to talk. It will be interesting to hear an update.
Ailish
McDebra
New Member
My stepfather's birthday was May 1. My daughter was very close to him as he was the only grandfather figure she had ever known. He worshipped her too. He passed away about four years ago and now my daughter is expecting her first child, a boy, she was due April 26, and her OB said yesterday, if she has not had the baby by Tuesday, he would induce her that day, May 1! We are almost hoping that we can welcome my stepfather back into the family!
I have been a member of this forum for a while and I will be looking for indications of my stepfather's return.
I have been a member of this forum for a while and I will be looking for indications of my stepfather's return.
Ailish
Administrator Emerita
Hi McDebra,
Wow -- you must be so excited! New babies are such a joy Early congratulations on your grandson!
It will be interesting to see what the little guy has to say once he starts talking. Lucky for him -- he's got a Grandma who's aware and taking notes right from the beginning.
Please keep us updated!
Aili
Wow -- you must be so excited! New babies are such a joy
Early congratulations on your grandson!It will be interesting to see what the little guy has to say once he starts talking. Lucky for him -- he's got a Grandma who's aware and taking notes right from the beginning.
Please keep us updated!
Aili
anastasia3001
New Member
first post
This is so strange to read because my daughter, when she was around 2 or so, used to tell me constantly that I was her baby before. I thought it was an odd thing to say but I thought she was just kind of roleplaying with me. I honestly didn't think much about it until I ran across something online about same family reincarnation. And this forum...a lot of this just sounds really familiar. I have no idea what to think about it now.
She's never really said much more about it and she's already pretty much stopped talking about it (she's 4 now) but she was just so insistent. I would tell her no, I'm the mama and she would say but Mama I mean before that. When I was big and you were small, I was the mama and you were the baby. She seemed so confused that I didn't understand what she meant.
It does strike me because I have a pretty terrible relationship with my mother. As soon as I found out I was pregnant with a girl, my heart sank because I just couldn't imagine a positive mother daughter relationship and I was worried I'd be a bad mother to a little girl. But once she was born, that all evaporated. I'm extremely close to my daughter. she always showed clear preference for me, even as a newborn. And she's so sweet with me, like she wants to take care of me. we're like we have one heart. it's such a special relationship.
Well, anyway. this whole conversation is a little overwhelming. If she is or isn't, I think she's some kind of special presence in my life. That's enough for me without defining it any further.
This is so strange to read because my daughter, when she was around 2 or so, used to tell me constantly that I was her baby before. I thought it was an odd thing to say but I thought she was just kind of roleplaying with me. I honestly didn't think much about it until I ran across something online about same family reincarnation. And this forum...a lot of this just sounds really familiar. I have no idea what to think about it now.
She's never really said much more about it and she's already pretty much stopped talking about it (she's 4 now) but she was just so insistent. I would tell her no, I'm the mama and she would say but Mama I mean before that. When I was big and you were small, I was the mama and you were the baby. She seemed so confused that I didn't understand what she meant.
It does strike me because I have a pretty terrible relationship with my mother. As soon as I found out I was pregnant with a girl, my heart sank because I just couldn't imagine a positive mother daughter relationship and I was worried I'd be a bad mother to a little girl. But once she was born, that all evaporated. I'm extremely close to my daughter. she always showed clear preference for me, even as a newborn. And she's so sweet with me, like she wants to take care of me. we're like we have one heart. it's such a special relationship.
Well, anyway. this whole conversation is a little overwhelming. If she is or isn't, I think she's some kind of special presence in my life. That's enough for me without defining it any further.
