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Catherine sent us the following in an email. She has given us permission to post her story.

Actually, there is something I would like to share with you regarding the passing of my 8 yrs. old. My son, Chanlan passed away on 12/19/2008 and in 10/09 I had asked my son to show me a sign of a blue feather which this sign represent his reincarnation back to our family.

Anyway, I had given my son within a month to show me a blue feather and within two weeks, I had seen three blue feathers in three different forms within 24 hours. The first blue feather sign was tattooed on the arm on a sales woman and the second sign appeared as "Blue Feather Concert" which it appeared on an advertisement when I was looking for an address totally unrelated to the blue feather concert. At the time I thought it was quite strange and it must be a coincidence but, within five minutes after the second occurence, I went into my younger son's room and there I pull out an art project which he had done at school and right in front of me was an actual blue feather posted on his art project.

I purposely chose blue feather because I want to find an object which the chance of running into within a month time is rare. Plus, my son drew a blue bird several months before he passed away & shortly after he died we had seen many signs of birds so, I chose a blue feather.

After my son had passed away, my husband and I had decided to try for another baby before the end of 2009 highly due to my mature age of 43. Anyway, the day before my son's chinese birthday 12/17/09, I met a woman and her online name was blue feather with very similar characteristics with my family. I thought it was quite odd to run into another blue feather before the end of the year because, my husband and I were definitely not planning for another child after the end of the year. Anyway, on the day of my son's birthday, we found out that I am expecting a child in August 2010.

Do you think this is odd?? Or do the spirit really let us know that they will return to us again??

I thought you may like to read about this. We had received many signs after the passing of my son. I didn't believe in these things before my son passed away but, there are just too many strange coincidence.

We had asked my son to leave a birthmark that he has had on his arm or his palm so we know the baby is indeed his reincarnation. My son had a pretty distinctive birthmark on his arm and also a very distinctive marking on his palm.

The reason I started to look into the spiritual of survival consciousness and reincarnation was due to the fact that my son left us the same time and date exactly 8 years ago that he was born and went to the same hospital too. I thought the timing was very unexplainable. Also, two weeks prior to him getting very sick, he had asked me many time what heaven was like. He was then in a very healthy condition. He died from viral encephalitis with no warning or any goodbye.

Thank you for reading my story,

Catherine
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Thanks for sharing Catherine. That is amazing . I doubt I could not think there is some connection with your son going on still from the coincidences.


I believe we are brought together when the time is right.. we are here to learn and grow .


I hope you both can find your wings and float away to much happiness and peace.. whether together again in this life or the next.. your love endures.


soulfreindly
 
Thank you, Catherine. :)


I love this story, and if you asked my personal opinion, I think the signs have been far too many to see them as coincidental.


This is a wonderful example of how love never disappears, and how we will be reunited with our loved-ones.


Catherine, I wonder if you have read Carol Bowman's books, especially Return from Heaven, which is about same family reincarnation?


All the best for you and your family,


Karoliina
 
I totally believe that communication like this is possible with "the other side." A close friend of mine told me that after the funeral of his sister he noticed that a sunflower had almost magically appeared next to her house. It hadn't been deliberately planted there, because she had been very sick for years -- but it was her favorite flower. He thought it had been her way of telling people she was all right. My mother has a story of seeing doves just after her beloved dog died, and feels strongly that was a message of comfort. I think people just need to be willing to be more open towards asking for this kind of communication or recognizing it should it ever manifest. Great story and thanks for sharing!
 
Thanks Catherine. If you have anything else you would like to share - please let me know. I would be happy to post it for you.


This offer also applies to others who would like me to post for them. I would be happy too.
 
I thought I would make two observations.


I have taken an approach that Bruce Leininger used when he approached the issue of reincarnation in his son, James. That approach is one to see if there is an alternative explaination for what is said.


Blue feathers - if one asks for an emotionally inspired sign, like the blue feathers, the brain is alert to spotting blue feathers, and it may be that it is not so much signs as just an alert mind that is looking for blue feathers, of which I am sure anyone would spot over a period of time if they were looking for them.


JM Barrie factor - The author of Peter Pan, JM Barrie, suffered a tragedy of the death of his brother David. In order to make his mother happy he pretended to be David rather than himself, setting off a chain of events that would cause JM Barrie much pain, and the birth of the character Peter Pan. If a parent makes the mistake that their new son is their former dead son, then that child may be denied their own uniquness in favouring pretending to be a dead child just to make the parent happy - the story of JM Barrie is a record of what happens to people who have to pretend to be a dead brother or sister.
 
Blue feathers - if one asks for an emotionally inspired sign, like the blue feathers, the brain is alert to spotting blue feathers, and it may be that it is not so much signs as just an alert mind that is looking for blue feathers, of which I am sure anyone would spot over a period of time if they were looking for them.
JM Barrie factor - The author of Peter Pan, JM Barrie, suffered a tragedy of the death of his brother David. In order to make his mother happy he pretended to be David rather than himself, setting off a chain of events that would cause JM Barrie much pain, and the birth of the character Peter Pan.
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After reading your thoughts about spotting and asking for signs, I can understand how as a sceptic you would certainly feel that way. It's not unlike buying a new car, and all of a sudden you notice lots of the same model and make driving around in the street. However, there are definitely times when signs have not been set up in the subconscious mind. I too lost my son who was only one, a year ago in two days time. Just a week prior to his sudden passing my daughter and husband called to me to see a butterfly they had found. It had only been a few months earlier that I had mentioned to my husband, how as children we used to see butterflies and ladybugs all the time, but as our environment and climate has changed over the years I hadn't seen any. I took a photo of my husband and daughter holding this perfect butterfly. After I had taken the photos, they put the butterfly back into the only piece of garden we had (we had just built a house and had no garden). A week later my son passed away. On the morning of his funeral I found a very small white box on my kitchen bench. Inside it was the exact butterfly. My daughter wanted my son to take it with him, so we put the butterfly, along with other items, in his coffin. From then on I found butterflies flying towards my car (while I am alone), just the one butterfly at a time. One came at my daughter and I only a week ago, and turned at the very last second. My daughter who is only five turned to me and said, Mummy that butterfly was coming straight to you here, and she touched my tummy. To the baby. I am pregnant with our fourth child. For years and years I haven't seen a butterfly, and I have commented about it to various people at times, so it is not a subconscious sighting for me.


As for the author of Peter Pan, I had no idea that he lost a brother. This is important to me as well, as only months after losing my son, my daughter wanted a Tinkerbelle birthday party. I told her that I would do a Peter Pan, Wendy and Tinkerbelle Party for her, and I found a tape to show her what the story was all about. My then four year old daughter had just lost her little brother, and neither she nor I knew the irony of the authors inspiration to this very famous story. Whilst making the pirate ship, Mermaid Lagoon, Skull Rock and the Indian Village, I took photos and shared them with the children who were invited to the party on Facebook. It wasn't until a friend pointed out to me that an orb was in one of the photos. I tired very hard to replica the orb marking on the photo, buy taking another photo in the same position, at the same time of day, but nothing. A mother who came to the party showed me her camera a few months later. She had taken a photo at the party, and she had an orb appear on one of the party photos, again this photo had no children in the shot. Two cameras, two different women taking the photo. My son (after reading what you wrote), I guess is my Peter Pan, because he is my little boy who will never grow up - I didn't choose this party for my daughter, she was the one who wanted a Tinkerbelle party, and I certainly didn't know about the authors personal history until I read your posting just now.


I have received many, many more signs as well. But one, I think that even you will not be able to explain away, was the message from the complete stranger who came to my son's funeral. He spoke to me alone, then he went to my husband, and then to my mother, and repeated the same message to the three of us individually. He told me, that something big, something great will come out of this, something big. He left as quick as he came to pass the message on. The three of us had no idea that he had come up to us and told us the same message until after the furneral when we spoke about it. Not only that, a friend of my mum's over heard him tell the message to me, and was concerned that I was upset by it. This is definitely something no one would expect at a funeral, especially one were the deceased was only one years old. So it wasn't our imaginations, it really happened. When we tried to track the man down, we found that not long after the funeral, he was sent overseas to work. Not only was this man an absolute stranger to all three of us, but we still to this day have no idea how he even knew about my son's passing or even why he would want to attend. Plus the fact that before we could question him about what he said, he was gone. We feel the message wasn't from him, but rather a message which was passed on to us through someone or something else. That is not a sign I was looking for, subconsciously or not, it was something which came completely out of the blue.


Yes most signs can be answered away by sceptics, but there are just those few that no one can explain, and I think my last one is one of those.


I hope that you never get to experience such a profound loss, like myself and this woman. And so what if the signs are real or not, whether you believe us or not, it is what little we have left to comfort us in our most darkest hours.
 
AJones said:
If a parent makes the mistake that their new son is their former dead son, then that child may be denied their own uniquness in favouring pretending to be a dead child just to make the parent happy - the story of JM Barrie is a record of what happens to people who have to pretend to be a dead brother or sister.
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Only after my mother had passed away in '68 did anyone tell me that my parents believed that I was the reincarnation of my older brother, Michael. I knew that I had an older brother who was killed by a car in 1943, four years before I was born. But, it never really meant anything to me. Although I had a special attachment to his stuffed dog and aviator's cap, nothing else ever stood out until certain memories turned out to have been from an earlier period. Other than that, my parents never had any expectations of me, other than just to be myself. I lived my life as my own. They never spoke of Michael, so he was never some kind of emotional "ghost" for me to live up to.


I don't know what family dynamics would have caused JM Barrie to take on the persona of his deceased brother. Perhaps his mother was overly verbal about her loss, but I can't see how anyone would lose their identity just because someone said, "Oh look at Johnny! He's doing such and so, just like Mikey!".


As for the appearance of significant "signs", I have read enough of psychology and logic, as well as of credible anecdotes, to be confident that we should pay more attention to anything that seems significant; for that is the primary method of communication between our world and the next. It has proved to be an effective means of undeniable information in too many instances for me to remain oblivious.
 
Deborah said:
Catherine sent us the following in an email. She has given us permission to post her story.
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Hi catherine, How are you? I am excited to see your post and i am sure he has come back to make your family complete.
I am also undergoing same pahse in my life. Any update please share
 
Deborah said:
Catherine sent us the following in an email. She has given us permission to post her story.
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Gosh, I just replied on the thread 'Was I my own ancestor'. I would give a similar reply here, which is yes, it seems quite often that spirits want to return to the family they deeply love. I don't think it applies to myself but it does seem so for quite a number of other people, and why not?

Best wishes,

Angie
 
AJones said:
I thought I would make two observations.


I have taken an approach that Bruce Leininger used when he approached the issue of reincarnation in his son, James. That approach is one to see if there is an alternative explaination for what is said.


Blue feathers - if one asks for an emotionally inspired sign, like the blue feathers, the brain is alert to spotting blue feathers, and it may be that it is not so much signs as just an alert mind that is looking for blue feathers, of which I am sure anyone would spot over a period of time if they were looking for them.


JM Barrie factor - The author of Peter Pan, JM Barrie, suffered a tragedy of the death of his brother David. In order to make his mother happy he pretended to be David rather than himself, setting off a chain of events that would cause JM Barrie much pain, and the birth of the character Peter Pan. If a parent makes the mistake that their new son is their former dead son, then that child may be denied their own uniquness in favouring pretending to be a dead child just to make the parent happy - the story of JM Barrie is a record of what happens to people who have to pretend to be a dead brother or sister.
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My paternal Granmum believe my brother was the reincarnation of the son she 'lost'during the first air raid in London during WWII. I don't think anyone else in my family thought it, I didn't, and I don't think he was ever made aware of her belief. I would hope that anyone who had such a belief would ensure a child weren't told of it - unless the child gave strong clear validation of their own volition without probing and prodding. I expect Catherine and her husband are educated and sensible enough to not do that although you have a point and some people might and thus implant a wrong identity within a child along with false memories.

Nonetheless, as Catherine said the blue feathers where they are, are unusual and it seems she hadn't known about her late son's artwork until finding it later. It seems that although not literal blue feathers from a bird, still too many for coincidence. I doubt I have seen that many blue feathers in fact or in art during any month or two of my six plus decades. I believe it is the sign she asked for, and I expect she and her husband are sensitive enough to not mention it to him and to ensure other people don't until when and if he strongly indicates he needs validation for himself.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
Wendy25 said:
After reading your thoughts about spotting and asking for signs, I can understand how as a sceptic you would certainly feel that way. It's not unlike buying a new car, and all of a sudden you notice lots of the same model and make driving around in the street. However, there are definitely times when signs have not been set up in the subconscious mind. I too lost my son who was only one, a year ago in two days time. Just a week prior to his sudden passing my daughter and husband called to me to see a butterfly they had found. It had only been a few months earlier that I had mentioned to my husband, how as children we used to see butterflies and ladybugs all the time, but as our environment and climate has changed over the years I hadn't seen any. I took a photo of my husband and daughter holding this perfect butterfly. After I had taken the photos, they put the butterfly back into the only piece of garden we had (we had just built a house and had no garden). A week later my son passed away. On the morning of his funeral I found a very small white box on my kitchen bench. Inside it was the exact butterfly. My daughter wanted my son to take it with him, so we put the butterfly, along with other items, in his coffin. From then on I found butterflies flying towards my car (while I am alone), just the one butterfly at a time. One came at my daughter and I only a week ago, and turned at the very last second. My daughter who is only five turned to me and said, Mummy that butterfly was coming straight to you here, and she touched my tummy. To the baby. I am pregnant with our fourth child. For years and years I haven't seen a butterfly, and I have commented about it to various people at times, so it is not a subconscious sighting for me.


As for the author of Peter Pan, I had no idea that he lost a brother. This is important to me as well, as only months after losing my son, my daughter wanted a Tinkerbelle birthday party. I told her that I would do a Peter Pan, Wendy and Tinkerbelle Party for her, and I found a tape to show her what the story was all about. My then four year old daughter had just lost her little brother, and neither she nor I knew the irony of the authors inspiration to this very famous story. Whilst making the pirate ship, Mermaid Lagoon, Skull Rock and the Indian Village, I took photos and shared them with the children who were invited to the party on Facebook. It wasn't until a friend pointed out to me that an orb was in one of the photos. I tired very hard to replica the orb marking on the photo, buy taking another photo in the same position, at the same time of day, but nothing. A mother who came to the party showed me her camera a few months later. She had taken a photo at the party, and she had an orb appear on one of the party photos, again this photo had no children in the shot. Two cameras, two different women taking the photo. My son (after reading what you wrote), I guess is my Peter Pan, because he is my little boy who will never grow up - I didn't choose this party for my daughter, she was the one who wanted a Tinkerbelle party, and I certainly didn't know about the authors personal history until I read your posting just now.


I have received many, many more signs as well. But one, I think that even you will not be able to explain away, was the message from the complete stranger who came to my son's funeral. He spoke to me alone, then he went to my husband, and then to my mother, and repeated the same message to the three of us individually. He told me, that something big, something great will come out of this, something big. He left as quick as he came to pass the message on. The three of us had no idea that he had come up to us and told us the same message until after the furneral when we spoke about it. Not only that, a friend of my mum's over heard him tell the message to me, and was concerned that I was upset by it. This is definitely something no one would expect at a funeral, especially one were the deceased was only one years old. So it wasn't our imaginations, it really happened. When we tried to track the man down, we found that not long after the funeral, he was sent overseas to work. Not only was this man an absolute stranger to all three of us, but we still to this day have no idea how he even knew about my son's passing or even why he would want to attend. Plus the fact that before we could question him about what he said, he was gone. We feel the message wasn't from him, but rather a message which was passed on to us through someone or something else. That is not a sign I was looking for, subconsciously or not, it was something which came completely out of the blue.


Yes most signs can be answered away by sceptics, but there are just those few that no one can explain, and I think my last one is one of those.


I hope that you never get to experience such a profound loss, like myself and this woman. And so what if the signs are real or not, whether you believe us or not, it is what little we have left to comfort us in our most darkest hours.
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"There are more things in Heaven and one Earth....". I absolutely believe you, and as an old, tough down to earth cookie I am not the gullible over-imaginative sort, but there truly are "More things...." than any science can prove.

Peace and best wishes,

Angie
 
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