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How long is the period between death and re-birth??

Does anyone have any thoughts on this and what happens inbetween this period?

Adrian
 
The time between can vary depending on a lot of different things. It seems to me that in most cases there is a period of several years between death, and re-birth. I do know of cases in which the time is less; usually the person died in some sort of accident (although not all accident victims come back right away.) My older daughter was in the 'between' state for at least 20 years, maybe longer (my husband knows better in this case). On the other hand a very good friend of ours was 'between' for less than a year. (only a couple of months)
I think that you use this time to reflect on your past life, and the lessons you learned. Then, if you wish, observe the goings on of those still in the flesh. Or you can do it in reverse...observe and assist those in the flesh until they join you and then reflect together on life.
 
Adrian--
The best book I've ever read on life between lives is Journey of Souls by Michael Newton (Llewellyn Publications). It's really an excellent book that makes you think, and hits things deep in your mind.
Some of it seemed a bit far-fetched to me, but still really good reading!
 
I would like to offer a suggestion of a book that I found more satisfying than Journey of Souls: it's "Life Between Life" by Joel Whitton.
 
Excalibur,

Good question. What we're finding from our cases and from careful study of Dr. Ian Stevenson's cases is that there are *no rules* about the interval. It's very personal. Some souls are impatient (or highly motivated, etc.) and come back immediately. Some take their time and wait many years (or have intervening lives we don't hear about).

In fact, there are a few cases where the interval is less than 9 months. It seems that the relationship between soul and fetus is quite fluid, with the soul moving in and out during fetal gestation, and the link might not be "permanent" until well into the pregnancy, even at birth.

In general, we're finding that most rigid rules about the afterlife are more an artificial attempt to codify the unknown, or a highly personal vision, than they are based in fact. From the cases, it seems to be much more organic, highly varied and complex. And, incidently, very much open to free will and personal choice. Carol's next book, which we're in the middle of writing right now, will shed light on many of these ideas.

Hope this helps,

Steve

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Interestingly enough someone here at work suggested that maybe that "Light at the end of the tunnel" could be the birth where you are Re-Born as a child?? (hence the light??)Interesting theory!

It was also suggested that maybe a still born child was the resultance in a soul going back to its original body.
 
Hello,

From what I have been able to peice together about my past lives is I usually waited around 20 to 30 years.

There has been a few variations on it though. For example when I died around 1780, my next life i fought in the War of 1812. I beleive I was around 17 years old at the outbreak so that would have meant I waited around 15 years.

On the other hand my last life I fought in WW1 and I died in 1917 and this round I was born in 1975, so that's 58 years. My gut feeling of why it took me so long is the events that occured in that life not only shattered my body, but also my spirit, soul and mind. I needed a long time to get back together sort of thing. I feel that I will never recover from what happened. All I can do is learn from what happened and try to make people understand the stupidity of war.

I remember some of the things I did in between 1917 and 1975. I tried to help my friends in combat. It's hard to explain...all I can think of is I tried to be the little voice people hear or the "gut" feeling people get to warn them of danger.

In WW2 I befriended a Canadian pilot and helped him fight the Nazis in the desert. I sort of found it strange since he was given a medal by a WW1 ace that i flew against. I found it so strange that I tried to shoot him down and he tried to shoot me down time after time. He was the nicest man that one could ever hope to meet.

I also would play jokes on people and sort of let them know that someone is there so to speak. Also when I was with my friends we got into a lot of mischeif.

Well I hope I've been of some help to you.

Take care.
Bill
 
This is a very unique topic.

I have "identified" some of my family members, and some of the children I know, and a number of them were reborn before their death. That is, they became the person they are *now* before they died as their last incarnation. In fact, one of the kids is still alive now as the other person.
Usually, a "split" time seems to be just several years.
It *is* possible to "know oneself." I have before, such as when I was my own sibling.
Has anyone else seen this? I mean, have you ever wondered if someone you loved, or even you, had been someone before, but discounted it because the new birth preceded the previous death?
 
Hello. Please, share what evidence you have used to identify these people. I've noted that Ian Stevenson has found children who remember lives that were not finished when they were conceived, so this doesn't seem impossible, but I would really like to know how you base your identifications?
 
Hi Elisabeth....

The *very first* sign for me of "split" (as my twin soul put it) lives was back in the mid '80's. I had just begun to recall a certain life, and as we had *old* family pictures, I could see the similarities between myself and this other person. Our eyes are *the same.* Smile, gestures etc, but the undeniable evidence was the eyes. (For the first time, I saw that our eyes never change.) Another family member spoke of having been this person's wife, and when I looked at the old photo of the wife, I could see it was my relative, but there was a contradiction: the wife died 4 years after my relative was born. Nevertheless, their eyes were the same, and I accepted it, assuming I'd figure it out later on.....in the '90's, I identified a person who had been my niece, and this person had been born 2 years before my niece had died.
Since then I have identified more. Someone in another post mentioned quick reincarnations as being "rushed," but I don't necessarily see that. It as if they had gone thru careful consideration of their families, despite overlapping lives.

I am not certain whether the souls are really "split," or in fact "extended," that is, if the soul has not literally split up, but is in fact extended, or stretched, across the planes.
Btw the person who was my wife does not, I think, know she was 2 people for the first 4 years of her life. However she is aware of this reincarnation aspect, and at some point I should ask her how she "felt" during this period.
I hope this helps.
 
Hi... Now let me see if I have understood you correctly. The past life which you personally recall, is of a family member who died sometime before you were born (or conceived)? But the lives you identify as having overlapped, you are identifying mainly by a similar look in the eyes, or by intuition (I'm drawing here from your other post about realizing that one of your students has a concurrent life as an old man somewhere else, so I'm assuming -- always dangerous -- that you are relying on intuition for that sort of identification?
I have heard of having concurrent incarnations, so overlapping ones don't seem so outrageous. STill, as SEven of Nine says, "I am having trouble with the nature of individuality."

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Elisabeth ,

The past life to which I was referring was aprox. 100 years ago. I have photos from then, so I have been able to compare eyes. The student to which I was referring was/is well known (not known for what he did, but more for what his spouse did), and as a result I have photos from both those lives, too. The eyes never change.
DJ
 
An interesting concept in Journey of Souls is that once we leave corporeal form, we also leave the conventional space/time continuum. Time is immaterial when we are immaterial. My interpretation is that, whereas while human we find the concept of thousands of years hard to conceive, it could only be a blink of an eye to the incarnate.

Okay, I'll say this in English. Although in Earth time it could take 20 years to reincarnate, to the soul involved, it could only be a few minutes or days. I think this could also explain the concept of inhabiting two bodies at once, because a discarnate does not have the same time restrictions as those who are in bodies.

Let me give you an example: I die tomorrow and cross over. While reviewing my last life, I decide it may be to my best interest to reincarnate at around the same time during Earth history, because there are more things to learn during that time. When I take a body, it's during the time that my "previous" body is still living.

Am I crazy, or does this make sense to anybody else?
 
Oh yes, it makes sense in its bizarre, paradoxical way -- and it leads to the realization that the only prudent course in life is to assume that everyone you meet may be your own other incarnations!
 
Raphael--
I don't understand what you're saying. If you died and went on to your life review, your previous body is in the ground. Is it not?
I'm reading Michael Newton's book for the 4th time--he touching on the parallel life stuff in the chapter I'm on. I don't know ...I can believe such a thing does exist, but I don't like the idea for some reason.
And Elizabeth's remarks have created all sorts of humorous ideas in my head . . . what if you're living a parallel life and you meet your other self? Do you both scream? Can only one of you talk at a time? Does one person say to the other:"Hey, don't I know you?" This is too funny . . . .

Sunday
P.S. Newton's new book is coming out next month.
 
I have lived several parallel lives before including in this life.I was born in 1983 in this life and my parallel life began in 1986.She lives somewhere in china and if I could get a well I don't know if I'd say Regression or Progression I could possibly use the additional info to find her.From what I know she also knows of my existance and expects to meet me.I must do this soon for although i'm suppossed to die in april 2032 she is going to die in july of 2003.It must be odd to meet yourself but i'm sure you'd get along well with yourself but you could also in this case literally be your own worse enemy!!I've also been told that there are about 5 billion souls and there are 6 billion bodies so that 1/6th of the world has a parallel life at this time most of which are the opposite gender.
 
Time itself may not be an absolute in our spiritual existence. It may be something like a cd disk where we can skip back and forth to any track, skipping portions we don't like or returning to ones we do. I believe that in Gods creation time is just another dimension that is only fluid when we inhabit our physical bodies.

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Zeta,

How do you know of your parallel life? Interesting theory. I have often pondered that very though and I know that Michael Newton addressed this issue in his books.

Steve,

Have you discovered that children talk more readily about what goes on BETWEEN lives, than adults do? Just curious because my daughter has mentioned things about "Heaven", but it doesn't seem to be as clear to her as does information about PAST lives.

Tammy

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I remember a bright flash of light following a true tunnel of darkness, also a simple tunnel of darkness with various dim lights throughout. I'm thinking the dimly lit tunnel was during the period of waiting, while the bright flash was my rebirth.
 
reincarnation/time

G'day guys.... just found this forum VERY interesting...
I have a question re the type of death...ie: the amount of trauma involved in the death, and the length of time b4 the next reincarnation.
Does anyone know if the more traumatic the death, the longer it takes to reincarnate?
 
Hi Stretch,

No, I don't think that would matter. I think it's up to the person. I've heard people say that people who experience a traumatic death, such as a murder, go before their time, and so it does take them longer, but I don't believe that.

-Sue ;)
 
Deaths during WW II were extremely traumatic, yet a great many of the people who died during that time seemed to reincarnate into the "safe" arms of the 1950's baby boom generation. This means reincarnating within a few years.

We don't know how time works, by the way. There have been some instances, and I am finding myself in the middle of one of these conflicts, where two incarnations seem to overlap. I have always felt I was a man who died in Germany in WWII, and have had many memories, remembered skills and activities, and visual images from that time to back up this feeling, all the way since my present early childhood. But, recently, another life that I always felt possible, that of an Englishwoman in late Victorian times, is coming to the fore, with a very specific person identified as a possible former self (see the picture and the left and the note below). If I were this woman, she died well after the remembered German man was born! It makes for quite a bit of confusion!!! :( And quite a few fascinating mysteries.

It is best to enter any interest in Reincarnation by following the advice of the poet Rainer Maria Rilke: "love the questions, rather than the answers." The answers may be few and far between. But the questions all wonderful! :)


Sandra
 
Hi Stretch, and welcome...

I believe the opposite occurs, in fact. If a life is interrupted before its normal time, and several things are left pending, the sooner a soul will reincarnate in order to complete what it had not completed in its previous life.
 
I'm more like Charles - if something were to happen to me at this point in my life I believe I would be back (you ain't gettin' rid of me that easily!) almost immediately. And for me, that would be because I really like it here!

The trauma associated with my death may, however, manifest itself as some sort of fear or phobia into the next life. In other words, if I get run over by a train, I may have an unnatural fear of trains in the next life.

Al:D
 
thanks guys

sorry, have had PC problems :mad:

why I asked was I was at a discussion of past lives and someone said they had a friend that is a young female now but in her previous life she was a soldier in Viet Nam who lost her life after stepping on a mine..she remembers having both her legs blown off and severve damage from the navel down.
Now in this life she has no subtle energy or Aura from the navel down.

So I was wondering if one was to die on the guillotine, if the subtle energy or aura would be none existant from the neck down and whether that form of death would take longer to reincarnate from.

sorry about being so long winded.
 
assembles the elements required for the life

Dear Stretch,
welcome - I hope you find what you are looking for here.

I think the ego-aspect of the soul assembles the world it requires to enable activation of its accumulated karma. The living, bind these assemblies into time. The incarnating personality to be is in no way concerned with time since it is ouside that contruct altogether.
Regards
 
I don't think there is such a thing as time. We pass on and enter a new stage, or waiting hall, or heaven or what ever. When we are ready to come back, we come back but time seems frozen in this new stage but yet time is moving on earth. When we return, we return unaware of what time (year) it might be. I was born in 1980, I think I was expecting things to be like the 1920s but time waits for no one. So, I think time isn't focused, or really known. When we come back, we come back and we land in what ever year it might be. who knows, maybe we are ment to be suprised and unknown of the new time year we are born. (Say that ten times fast hehe).
Anthony,
 
The question of time is indeed fascinating. I am not yet quite sure on what to make of all of it. Here are a few points to be considered.

What if we don't reincarnate chronologically? Is it so a possibility for me to go back to - say - the fifteenth century after this life? Then again, why do so few people remember previous lives from the future of the world (Gees. That was a complicated sentence.)? Are there people on this forum who do?

Personally I tend to think that we all follow the straight path through history and our spirits develop with the world.

I am fascinated also by the possibility of living two or more lives at the same time, because I personally have a little disturbance in the 19th century. Otherwise, my list over previous lives has kept within the historically logical chronological borders.

Due to the violent nature of the last century, I reincarnated with short intervals several times.

Well, that's it. Cheers.
 
Ah, but suppose we can reincarnate not only backwards in time, but sideways as well. Then it might well turn out that there is only ONE of us!!! And that we reincarnate in all these different directions in time to keep ourselves company. :)
 
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