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What is healthy and not healthy in Reincarnation?

Edelweiss

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Are there healthy and non-healthy mediums in reincarnation?
What I mean is, can someone become engrossed and obsessed to the point that this consumes their daily life, that it becomes unhealthy? Or is this healing? Is it healthy to be able to study reincarnation, but only touch the subject sporadically?

The reason I ask is because, I tend to be a wanderer. I touch a subject and go head first, feet pounding into it. However, I am finding that my yearning for certain time periods can be overwhelming. I've felt this yearning since I was a kid. The feeling is not new. Since believing in reincarnation the feeling has intensified.

Due to this, I sporadically will touch the subject.
 
I think it would be very easy to become obsessed with one or more past lives, which would be very unhealthy. This comment is going to sound facetious, and it's not meant to be. Currently, I'm in the process of shredding old mail stored in my garage. It feels so good to shred twenty year-old traffic tickets, old bills for stupid purchases, not-so-great grade slips from college, etc. I've actually been wondering if our memories go through a "celestial" shredder between lives. Sometimes, my shredder jams, and the "chunks" are still legible. Maybe some people experience PL memories for a spiritual reason, some of us are incompletely processed, so we have traces of memory, and most people have no memories at all. What a burden it would be to carry the full memories of many life times. Did you ever watch the tv series, "The Highlander"? For an immortal the memories were almost torture. Lost loves, terrible wars, etc. For me, reincarnation has been an interest for most of my life, but I am like you, and visit it sporadically. Recently, I did my geneology on ancestry.com. Like the commercial says, I'm not who I thought I was, but it greatly improved my self-understanding and self-esteem. I think I might have been a different person, if that information was available earlier. Past life studies, may be the same way - valuable for understanding and growth, but not meant to be obsessed over.
 
Edelweiss said:
I touch a subject and go head first, feet pounding into it.
It is an overwhelming fact that nearly all of the notable authors and experts are those who have immersed themselves totally into their subject of interest. And if they suddenly find their interest changing to another subject, they often combine certain aspects of both interests in unique an interesting ways. However, this is not to say that such people have not suffered along the way, or caused suffering for those around them. It is a known fact, for example, that many such notable people were often boorish and self-involved — not willing to talk about anything but their own interest, and too often pushing their ideas upon anyone else in the room.


In other words, there is nothing at all wrong with having too much interest in any subject — especially Reincarnation. Knowledge, in and of itself, is a good thing. It is what we do with that knowledge that can either enhance or disrupt our lives and those around us.
 
A Good Balance...


When I first visited the city of Brugge, I was overcome with a yearning, a homesickness that took days to get over! My husband said to me that if we would ever go back, he would hold me tight and shake me because he would be afraid of losing me...that is how intensive this memory was for me. I was literally lost! I didn't know what hit me and this experience influenced my everyday life. That was not healthy! Although I had had memories of this city and thought I could easily control myself, it was very emotional. I'm not sure that this is controllable...I have broken down in tears while standing in the ruins of St. Augustines Abbey in England...again, no control! But...in these moments of extreme emotion, there is also a feeling of a better understanding of who I am...which is healthy! I am retired now and have more time to "let myself go" but I am here now in this life, to live and learn...it is finding a good balance that is in the end the healthiest
 
Aelgyva, you are so right! As Nightrain said, there is never too much knowledge, but life for most of us needs to be about balance. I think an academic is a different "animal". They may incarnate with such a strong mission to enlighten the world on a subject, that it is neccessary for them to "obsess". For ordinary people, living in the past, instead of their current life, would be such a waste. If the purpose of reincarnation is healing and enlightenment, then we are blessed when we explore it. I was impressed with the idea in "Many Lives, Many Masters", when Brian Weiss said that the purpose of the information he received, was to help human beings transcend fear. More and more people in Western culture seem to be ready to receive that message, so the teachers are coming to deliver it.
 
Ah, oh so true! I couldn't agree more!


I've asked this question, because I am an observer. I have observed over the years ( about 4 years now online and offline) in regards of reincarnation, that a vast majority find themselves stuck in the past, so to speak. Or even so fixated that their lives have become consumed that they stop living in the now.


I say this without judgement, as I too, have been in the cycle of the past vs the present. When I first began to look into the idea of reincarnation about 5 years ago, it consumed me. I would spend hours in my school library looking up information, and writing my dreams down. I was consumed for 4 years, until I had an epiphany. Now, I see reincarnation and my past lives as a part of me, but it is not my life now. I still in some moments yearn for times where I've been, people I've known, and places I've been. Sometimes the feeling is heavy, other times not so much.


So, I've been working on making a happy medium between the two, and does it ever feel good!
 
BriarRose said:
Recently, I did my geneology on ancestry.com. Like the commercial says, I'm not who I thought I was, but it greatly improved my self-understanding and self-esteem. I think I might have been a different person, if that information was available earlier. Past life studies, may be the same way - valuable for understanding and growth, but not meant to be obsessed over.
Too bad we can't just go to something like ancestry.com to look up our past lives. :D
 
Hi Aelfgyva:


Interesting post. I would say that you had some VERY powerful past-life feelings and or traumas that were triggered. When you connect with those feelings and or traumas and heal them, all the negativity will go away and be replaced by joy, understanding and more personal power. I've seen this over and over again.

Aelfgyva said:
When I first visited the city of Brugge, I was overcome with a yearning, a homesickness that took days to get over! My husband said to me that if we would ever go back, he would hold me tight and shake me because he would be afraid of losing me...that is how intensive this memory was for me. I was literally lost! I didn't know what hit me and this experience influenced my everyday life. That was not healthy! Although I had had memories of this city and thought I could easily control myself, it was very emotional. I'm not sure that this is controllable...I have broken down in tears while standing in the ruins of St. Augustines Abbey in England...again, no control! But...in these moments of extreme emotion, there is also a feeling of a better understanding of who I am...which is healthy! I am retired now and have more time to "let myself go" but I am here now in this life, to live and learn...it is finding a good balance that is in the end the healthiest
 
Yes OutOfTheBox...very strong feelings, but comforting to know they are all apart of me! I am lucky to have loved ones around me who support and BELIEVE me...that also is very healthy! And...I don't have the need to prove to the world what I believe, no need to ring the bells of the proof that I have been able to find...again in my eyes...healthy!
 
Hi Aelfgyva:


I'm a bit confused by your response. How did "proof" come into the discussion? Are you thinking that a past-life regression etc. would be for proof? I see them as great healing opportunities, not to prove anything.
 
Edelweiss said:
Are there healthy and non-healthy mediums in reincarnation?
What I mean is, can someone become engrossed and obsessed to the point that this consumes their daily life, that it becomes unhealthy? Or is this healing? Is it healthy to be able to study reincarnation, but only touch the subject sporadically?
I like your question, Edelweiss, because this has been on my mind lately.


I think it can definitely consume a person to the point of being unhealthy. Just like with anything, if you obsess over it, everything else sort of stops. When I came back from my first trip to Germany, I was completely engrossed with everything without a mental break. I remember sitting at my desk at work, just staring at the wall, or being in a conversation at home, but not really listening and giving robotic answers. That's no way to live your life and not fair to the people in it.


However, I think a lot of the times we're grieving and trying to put the pieces back together, so it's just part of the process.


I am (hopefully) at the healthy balance you're speaking of. My interest in the period/reincarnation came in large chunks: when I was a preteen to 18, I was obsessed. From 18 to 29, I was completely avoidant, only picking up the subject again with kid gloves if something came along I couldn't resist (like a good book or a new documentary)...I was aware not to get too involved or else I'd be 'hooked' again.


After that, I went to Europe and woke up for another go at this. Now I'm seven years down *that* road, and I feel less swallowed up in the whole thing. I still find myself talking about that life and about reincarnation because I don't want to go back to those avoidance years, yet am not in so deep that I am thinking of it 24/7.
 
Sorry OutOfTheBox, if you think I might have shifted away from the topic here...no, I have never done a regression, and never will...my memories are so clear that I have been able to find "myself" a few times over.


I think what I was trying to say in regards to health is that having experienced the joy and pain with what I have found out about myself in PLS and not having to prove anything to my loved ones, has given me an inner peace which I consider very heathly.


P.S...after living in Europe for over 33 years, my English and the way I may form my ideas might sound a bit like a foreign language. I ask for understanding when posting!
 
I think the problem is not being stuck or obsessed with the past, the problem is what you do with it. If you just keep hours and hours thinking about the good ol'times and stop functioning in this life and doing the things you need to do, then simply you are not where you want to be right now, and there are some changes you need to implement in this life to be happier. There are some things that sadly we can't change like geopolitical events, general mindset of the population and how the world looks like. We can however change things in our micro sphere, we can change where we live, what we do, how we dress and what kind of people we hang out with.


I don't think it's healing to nostalgically think about the past night and day, but it can be productive if you take action because of it, or if it helps you to form psychological hypothesis for how you are the way you are.
 
Owl said:
I don't think it's healing to nostalgically think about the past night and day, but it can be productive if you take action because of it, or if it helps you to form psychological hypothesis for how you are the way you are.


I think your summation of the value of past life memories is correct in every way, Owl. Well said!

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I have always had an interest in world history, and in particular European and North American history of the last 150 years. Growing up, my interest in one small span of history - WW2 - was so consuming that, in one form or another, it occupied a great deal of my daily conscious thought, to the detriment of my school work and, later (I now realise), gainful employment. In my mind, I lived apart from the contemporary world, and effectively indulged the longing within me to express what was undoubtedly my former identity. And I succeeded, but not without cost to my present life.


As I've grown older, the fascination with the era that drove much of my youthful behaviour and ambition has remained, but at a much diminished level. I now live very much in the present, fully engaging with the contemporary world, and whilst I have no wish to distance myself from who - or more accurately, "what" I believe I once was, this being the bedrock of who I fundamentally am in this current life - I no longer feel driven by my former persona. And, I have to say, I find that feeling liberating.
 
I was happy to find this thread. I came to this forum because of memories I've been having of a WWII past life, and at times I feel like I am becoming slightly obsessed with it. I don't think it is affecting my daily life negatively, but I do think about it more and more often, and sometimes I wish I could go back to that time.


As Arrant said in the post before mine, I often feel like I do not belong in this contemporary world. I feel a very strong pull toward certain eras. Lately I've been wanting to learn how to do vintage hairstyles, sew and wear old clothing styles, etc. I go to sleep at night sometimes listening to old music. I've been researching about where I think I was during my WWII lifetime. I think it was the lifetime that holds the greatest lessons for me in my current life, and I am trying to pull those lessons from it.


So, as I said, it's not affecting my life negatively. But I do feel out of place, almost all the time. I think part of my obsession with the past is a symptom of how I feel about the current world and about my place in it at the moment. In my WWII lifetime, I definitely had a mission in life, whether it was right or wrong. In this life, I have yet to find that. When I do, I think I will be able to live in the moment properly.
 
seagreen said:
I often feel like I do not belong in this contemporary world. I feel a very strong pull toward certain eras. Lately I've been wanting to learn how to do vintage hairstyles, sew and wear old clothing styles, etc. I go to sleep at night sometimes listening to old music.
I can relate to that! :laugh: I don't think it is a bad thing.
 
As has been stated above, I sense the only unhealthy aspect of reincarnation is to allow the thoughts of the past to somehow pull you out of what you intended to do here and now in this current lifetime. I do, however, believe an understanding of where you were and what you did can provide answers and a clearer view of why you are who you are today from the standpoint of what attracts you, what repels you, how you deal with people and why some seem to fit into your life while other, perfectly nice people simply do not.


I was 14 when "The Great Gatsby" was released (the Redford/Farrow edition) and for some reason it felt like home, as if I somehow belonged and was a part of it all...but it was based on a novel and was fictional. I saw it multiple times and it was an itch I just couldn't scratch, but I found myself drawn to that time and place like a moth to a light.


Years later and through much research and investigation into these and other memorable and remarkable likes and dislikes, attractions and repellants, people and places which "fit" and those which don't, I found answers that enabled me to put the pieces of this particular puzzle into place. While the story of "Gatsby" took place in Long Island, N.Y., the filming location was Newport, RI, and the untold wealth of the early 1920's illustrated in the film much resembled that of the Gilded Age Robber Barons and Scions of Industry summering in Newport at the turn of the century.


I found the attraction I had for the movie was made up of a series of connections which were not apparent at age 14. Through past life regressions and the akashic records I discovered my family in that time was of that Gilded Age social set and we frequented Newport in the early 1900's. The wealth, huge parties and glittering social settings shown in "Gatsby" were very similar to those I experienced in Newport 20 years earlier, and the enormous "cottages" and mansions depicted in the movie were the actual homes in which I lived and had attended parties. In that lifetime I died in Newport in an automobile accident in 1905; everyone else in the car survived and went on to become ambassadors, senators, real estate magnates, newspaper publishers, or to marry them. "The Great Gatsby" portrayed a very accurate view of the life from which I had suddenly departed. The familiarity, attractiveness and melancholic effect it had on me caused a sense of yearning, near depression and strong feeling of missing out on a place and time I ought to be...though it only appeared in a movie.


As that 14 year old, I somehow wrenched my attraction and identification from all things "Gatsby" to focus on my current life, slogged my way through puberty and placed that experience in the category of "what was that?", though I never fully forgot about it. It is my belief that had I been slightly less directed or anchored in the present I could have allowed this obsession with a bygone era to pull me from the path I had chosen in this lifetime.


To me, this would have been an unhealthy, though very attractive and powerful attachment to a past life and what I missed as the result of a foreshsortened lifetime.
 
usetawuz said:
In that lifetime I died in Newport in an automobile accident in 1905;
Anymore details on the "horseless carriage" accident? Auto accidents were still pretty rare at the time.
 
Yes...in the New York and San Francisco papers are articles that report the event. It was a single car accident with the presumption I was driving too fast and lost control when a tire exploded. I was the only fatality, my sister broke her leg and the others simply got thrown onto sand and mud, with no other significant injuries. I had asked the chauffer to ride on the fender/runningboard! A fateful decision, or following my lifepath?


I must say that what began as an unreasonable obsession with a movie and the era it depicted could have caused me to eschew my current lifetime and focus on a time long past. I cannot describe the level of longing I truly felt at that time and I tend to ruminate and obsess anyway, so I believe I am quite fortunate to have developed other interests at a very impressionable age allowing me to get beyond the attraction to that time.


***briefly off topic***


As a point of information, my identity in that lifetime has only been discovered fairly recently. The initial impressions from that past life came at age 14 upon viewing the movie and leaving a deep, familiar and emotional mark; over my life I noted significant connections with various people that seemed to somehow resemble that same feeling I had with that movie, and each of them either hold or held an important place in my life.


From a human standpoint there was no ascertainable cause for such feelings, but when I realized what I sensed could be explained within the framework of reincarnation I began to research those soul connections. I found I was able to actually identify from a soul level those with whom I interact over lifetimes and the various roles we played and play for each other. Through meditation and the akashic records I obtained various scenarios and views into those lifetimes and in this one specifically, I actually "saw a car accident, looked down into my dying eyes then at my sister (ex-fiance) and family (mother then is wife now) in tears; we were surrounded with fine things, were well to do, were in the Northeastern U.S. at the turn of the century". I had left it there and was not searching for an identity as I had found what I was searching for...the understanding of the connections with others. It was only then that small synchronistic events, surprising factual snippets and circumstantial evidence began to come together in a manner that made plain where I had been, who I was with, and who I was.
 
I fully understand how a movie could trigger PL longings. Yesterday I saw "Gangster Squad" which is set in Los Angeles in the late 40's- early 50's. It wasn't a very good movie, but it made me long for the Southern California I knew as a little girl. I think if I saw it in a future life those same feelings would surface again.
 
I think it's healthy to have real knowledge, though. I became deeply obsessed with a FAKE past life that a FAKE psychic told me to the point where I lost track of the present. The past life regression helped me, because knowing the truth didn't feel overwhelming; it made me feel grounded in the present, because I know my roots. Now I'm trying to start all over with life and find something brand new and very NOW to define myself by :)
 
BriarRose said:
...Did you ever watch the tv series, "The Highlander"? For an immortal the memories were almost torture. Lost loves, terrible wars, etc....
Just as with present life memories, it can be healthy to dwell on them and what they might mean for you, but if you overdo it, that's not healthy.


It seems to be quite common for me and for others, that certain things will start coming up, thrusting themselves into your awareness, when they relate to a present life dilemma. Sometimes it's not immediately obvious why something is significant or what your 'subconscious' is trying to tell you, but it usually reveals itself after a while. It's pretty normal for people, especially newbies, to get very obsessed about this process at first. Once you get used to it, you tend to get a bit more relaxed about it. Similarly to going over childhood traumas in psychoanalysis, first you need to bring back the memory, then process it by talking it over and meditating on it. Then you can forgive it and release it and let it go. But, although this can be very healing, it is seldom a painless process while it's going on.
 
As others have stated above, the study of Reincarnation as with anything in moderation is healthy. But, I would also add that the purpose of such study should be outwardly motivated rather than ego or self-centered. When we focus only on our own past-lives, I think that we are missing the point of Reincarnation knowledge and thus wasting our time. For, if we somehow manage the impossible and remember all of our past lives, we will have entirely missed the truth that we are all connected. If we learn about Reincarnation only from the viewpoint of ourselves, we will only have created dogma. If we learn about it with others in mind, we will have achieved truth.
 
Well to be honest I don't really care about other people's past lives, or even to do further research on my own, so I am leaving this forum, bye guys :)
 
What's wrong Sarah? This is the place to talk about this stuff. You will find listening ears, mindful thoughts and insightful comments and heartfelt compassion.


Take your time though. This is deep stuff. This is not a game. Come back when you are ready. We'll still be here.
 
Nightrain said:
As others have stated above, the study of Reincarnation as with anything in moderation is healthy. But, I would also add that the purpose of such study should be outwardly motivated rather than ego or self-centered. When we focus only on our own past-lives, I think that we are missing the point of Reincarnation knowledge and thus wasting our time. For, if we somehow manage the impossible and remember all of our past lives, we will have entirely missed the truth that we are all connected. If we learn about Reincarnation only from the viewpoint of ourselves, we will only have created dogma. If we learn about it with others in mind, we will have achieved truth.
And, Nightrain, your post resonates with truth...beautifully stated.
 
tanguerra said:
It's pretty normal for people, especially newbies, to get very obsessed about this process at first.
I'd rather not refer to members as "newbies". Everyone starts with this process somewhere, and many new, and younger members are farther along the path than I was at their age. Those of us who may feel they have more knowledge can't afford to be arrogant. Sometimes, pride does come before a fall, and I for one, am unqualified to assess the level of another person's spiritual development.
 
BriarRose said:
I'd rather not refer to members as "newbies". Everyone starts with this process somewhere, and many new, and younger members are farther along the path than I was at their age. Those of us who may feel they have more knowledge can't afford to be arrogant. Sometimes, pride does come before a fall, and I for one, am unqualified to assess the level of another person's spiritual development.
I think I am undeveloped spiritually though, but that may be me trying to bring myself down as usual. Anyway, thanks BriarRose and tanguerra :)

tanguerra said:
\Take your time though. This is deep stuff. This is not a game. Come back when you are ready. We'll still be here.
Why do I feel attacked? If it's not important to me, which I feel it really isn't, that's okay. It barely matters to me, because I can only remember a couple of things, and none of them matter to me as much as right now. I can see it as a "game" if I want to, and as shallow as I want to.
 
BriarRose said:
I'd rather not refer to members as "newbies". Everyone starts with this process somewhere, and many new, and younger members are farther along the path than I was at their age. Those of us who may feel they have more knowledge can't afford to be arrogant. Sometimes, pride does come before a fall, and I for one, am unqualified to assess the level of another person's spiritual development.
Point taken. I wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I see the term as a rather light hearted one myself. It was used in the early days of the internet to mean someone who'd just started 'surfing'. I'm not meaning to say anything about people's spiritual maturity. It's just a slang term, but perhaps there's a better way to say 'people who are starting out on this journey of discovery'.
 
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