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What to do to make THIS incarnation MOST productive?

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BuzzCap7

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How do we know what to do to make this incarnation most productive?

More specifically......do we:

a) Contact and ask our spirit guides what is it we are supposed to learn in this lifetime?
b) Solely listen to the little guy inside all of us?
c) Both of the above?
e) Other?

Intent....the intent of the above question is "how" or maybe "who" do we contact spiritually to find out what our goal is to improve ourselves here on earth so we can evolve quicker to get to the collective unconscious.

Also, I am new here, so thank you to the originator of this forum as well as participants to make is this forum what it is.

Lastly, I looked around even before registering to see if I can find this answer prior to posting my question and was unsuccessful in finding the answer. Ergo, the post.

Thank you!!!

BuzzCap7
 
Hi BuzzCap


Welcome to the forum.


I don't think there needs to be any rules about what we are supposed to be doing in any particular life. Some people may choose to be 'productive'. Others might just want to have fun. Some will want to learn a new thing. One might want revenge. Another might want to find a lost love.


A lot of people might disagree with me, but I don't believe that we are all 'supposed' to be doing anything in particular. What are the stars 'supposed' to be doing? They might have their own agenda? Who knows. Certainly not me.


I don't subscribe to a belief that there is any central planning involved in life at all. Nobody is watching. Everyone is on their own recognizance. We may have intentions that we want to do x,y,z with our life, but that's up to the individual to follow that through or change your mind. Personally, I am not convinced that everything is 'pre-destined' or it's our 'job' to evolve as quickly as possible.


Of course, there is a 'hard way' and an 'easy way' to do anything in life. Listening to your intuition (or spirit guides, or however you conceive that kind of thing) is always recommended if in doubt!
 
Hi tanguerra,


And thank you for a warm welcome. It is better than getting hit in the head with a skillet. LOL


I hear what you are saying yet believe (more than ever) there is a greater objective for a variety of reasons. But I did hear what you said.


I look forward to hearing if anyone can zero in and shed light on the original post. In the meantime, wine** I bid you ado and thank you for your thoughts.


BuzzCap7
 
Well, I am not certain that productivity is the goal, but . . . For myself, it is quite simple:


Love


Empathize


Live gently on the Earth


That about covers it.
 
Hi Buzz,


I'm on your side of things on this issue, which is not to say that I don't respect Tang's opinion on just about everything (subject to some quibbles here and there). However, that being said, there is the general answer and there is the specific answer. The general answer might be something like what Blueheart just gave you. Overall, it is to live the kind of life that is typically called: "good". I like the Old Testament quote: Do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God. Or, from the words of Christ: Love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul, mind and strength and your neighbor as yourself. You can probably find some other statements like this from sources secular and/or religious, and from various religions.


However, I think what you are really looking for is the specific--such as what is my specific mission or goal in this life and how should I go about accomplishing it? You seem to have some good ideas. I think personally that this is the kind of thing that takes place (is revealed) over a lifetime for most people that even think in these terms. I also think that it is a right foot/left foot kind of thing. I.e., that as you advance one foot forward in the "general" category mentioned above, you are given light and power to advance the other foot forward in terms of understanding and accomplishing your own personal mission (whether good works, expansion of consciousness, individuation, self acualization, or etc.). So, step-by-step.


In terms of getting a specific personal revelation, I'm no expert. Information from "guides" (what used to be called Guardian Angels) is popular with some, but I'm a bit leery myself. Also, some seek advice from psychics and etc. One of our board members developed a technique for visiting several without giving any clues to any and finding where he got repeated information--which he believed to be more reliable--and strikes me as pretty darn clever if you can arrange it (and afford it). From my standpoint, I'd rather get it from myself (or my higher self) if I can't get it from even higher. At some point I might try to get with a Michael Newton trained regressionist and try to reach the life-between-lives stage and see if there was a goal that I had in mind before starting this particular life.


However, I might be surprised and you might be surprised by silence. Not because there wasn't one, but because part of the goal was to work it out from this end--without shortcuts.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi BuzzCap,


I do believe we are all here for a purpose. The purpose varies from lifetime to lifetime and from one person to the next.


This has been a belief that has developed over a lifetime for me.


I had a hunch what my purpose was because of things that interested and motivated me. But I felt it was confirmed after I went through periods of deep meditation and connected with my spirit guide.


I found that when I am on the right course I experience more joy, love, and connection. Things seem to go smoother and doors open without a lot of effort. When I am not on the right path, I feel frustrated and disconnected and no matter how hard I try something, roadblocks seem to emerge. My emotions are often my guide.


A dear friend of mine went to a psychic a few years ago who helped him define his life purpose, and he has been a changed man since. He thought he had to be accomplishing something of a grand nature while he was here, and found that was not the case.


I do think we have the ability to get in touch with this through our inner selves when we can quiet the mind and step away from the daily distractions of life. Meditation is a powerful tool for me.


Cheers to you. wine**
 
BuzzCap7 said:
How do we know what to do to make this incarnation most productive?
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I found myself at a crossroad and felt stuck with this question as well. I fell to my knees and asked how to be the best I could at it all. I was in tears. I heard a 'silent voice' come from above and felt someone wrap their 'invisible arms' around me as they said,


"Follow your heart."


Sincerely,


DKing
 
find your bliss!


Joseph Campbell, in the Power of Myth; said it well....


"find your bliss"...most things in life are simple...
 
It is my opinion you can only make the most out of life if you leave all of the things you have no control over to your pure spiritual self. You then do the best you can and concentrate with all of those things you do have control over. It makes no sense and its non productive to worry about all of those things that can go wrong when you have no control over them. I'm now so confident that my pure spiritual self looks out for me, when things do go wrong that I had no control over I don't even worry when they happen. This may be hard to believe but for the past three years when anything has gone wrong I just allow myself to be guided to solutions that I do have control over. This has worked very well for me.. I just wish I had understood this when I was young. Freeing yourself from problems and issues you have no control over brings peace of mind and a great increase in the productivity of every day living


The only downside I have found is those close to me think I don't care.. Which is completely wrong. I have no control over what they do, the same as I have no control over if I fall down and break a leg and cannot work. As I said free yourself from all of that and live a happy and productive life
 
John Tat said:
It is my opinion you can only make the most out of life if you leave all of the things you have no control over to your pure spiritual self. You then do the best you can and concentrate with all of those things you do have control over. It makes no sense and its non productive to worry about all of those things that can go wrong when you have no control over them. I'm now so confident that my pure spiritual self looks out for me, when things do go wrong that I had no control over I don't even worry when they happen. This may be hard to believe but for the past three years when anything has gone wrong I just allow myself to be guided to solutions that I do have control over. This has worked very well for me.. I just wish I had understood this when I was young. Freeing yourself from problems and issues you have no control over brings peace of mind and a great increase in the productivity of every day living
The only downside I have found is those close to me think I don't care.. Which is completely wrong. I have no control over what they do, the same as I have no control over if I fall down and break a leg and cannot work. As I said free yourself from all of that and live a happy and productive life
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I also find this an effective way to live life. Like you, I wish I had learned this earlier in my life, but at least I do see it now.
 
Beverly K said:
Hi BuzzCap,
I had a hunch what my purpose was because of things that interested and motivated me. But I felt it was confirmed after I went through periods of deep meditation and connected with my spirit guide.


Cheers to you. wine**
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Hi Bev K,


That is what I Was looking for. Deep meditation and connecting with you Spirit Guide. TY!


And back at you........ wine**

dking777 said:
"Follow your heart."


Sincerely,


DKing
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DK, I interpret that as (or similar too) listen to the little guy inside you. Also a reasonably good answer or confirmation to the original question asked....thank you!!


.........and to you too.... wine**


THANK YOU to EVERYONE!!!


Your input was/is greatly appreciated. ticonthumbshumbsup


BuzzCap7
 
BuzzCap7 said:
DK, I interpret that as (or similar too) listen to the little guy inside you. Also a reasonably good answer or confirmation to the original question asked....thank you!!
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Having had many childhood NDE's, you would think that would have led me to many of the answers pertaining to spiritual matters. I was very content until the age of 17 and then I started picking up on the 'static' of the 'religious' community and the image they portrayed of a wrathful, vengeful and hateful God. This contridicted everything I felt I had learned from my 'near-death experiences.' I had a person point out a scripture to me. I listened to his interpretation and it filled me with confusion and mental mayhem. This is what led me to the crossroad where I fell down in tears.


I didn't trust the world or worldly advise I was getting from the mouths of so-called 'religious minds.' What did I do? I turned to God for answers. I felt this 'false teacher' was leading me astray from the unconditional love I felt in the past from my Divine Creator. I was afraid there were too many pitfalls and false trails to get lost upon in this world. I didn't want to live in this world with the idea that my 'Divine Creator' hated any of his/her children.


It so happened I was at a telephone booth in the middle of no where. (Back in the day before Internet and Cell phones.) The only reason I had stopped was because there was a light inside the booth when you opened the door. I wanted to stand in the light and not feel myself surrounded by darkness. The first thing I heard when I was on my knees crying out to God was, "Stand up, KNOW you are loved and move forward." That is when I felt myself lifted up by invisible arms.'


I was shocked and amazed. Everything was silent outside and I was wondering where did that voice come from? I even picked up the receiver on the telephone and said, "Hello?"


I felt a little let down. That was it? I felt I had the 'divine voice' of creation on the line and that is all the advise I was going to get? I slowly did a 360 degree circle around the phone booth wondering which way was forward. If there was only one possible direction to move forward in knowing I was pleasing God and fulfilling my destiny, how did I know the one direction I took wasn't one of the other 359 degree's of possibilities that would lead me astray from my own divine path of enlightenment. I looked up and asked,


"How do I know which way is forward?" That is when I got the simple reply of, "Follow your heart."


Other than that, I feel the most important step for the sake of any 'spiritual path' is to establish your own personal, private and intimate relationship with the 'divine' and when it comes to questions regarding the 'world's teachings' verses 'true teachings', the best one to direct your questions to (in prayers and silent meditations) is the "Divine Creator' of your soul, and all souls past, present and future. I will be the first to say it ain't all that easy sometimes. It is hard and the answers are not always direct and through a 'telephone type' conversation. They are not hard to deciepher once they come to you directly or indirectly - but you never mistake that 'trademark' signature that lets you know it comes from a divine source. (I have had answers come to me through the voice of others, sometimes - unknown to the person who gives voice to it.) As an example - I was standing with a co-worker and he kept repeating a 'phrase' and then it struck me. Hidden in his words was a key to unlock a mystery I had been 'praying' for. I asked my co-worker, "Why did you just say what you said to me and do you know what it means?" His reply was, "It just popped into my head. I have no idea why I said it and now that I am thinking about it - it don't make sense." It made perfect sense to me. So, the best advise is to 'turn to and trust God - and then follow your heart.'


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Dking777,


You knocked this one out of the ballpark my friend.


1st off, thank you dearly for sharing and taking the time to write that up. Hopefully u copy and pasted. But taking that much time to help me out...............wow.


2ndly, Also, what you shared with me/us, carries a great deal of weight.


Briefly:


1) Manmade religion has little to no meaning to me.


2) Listening to the "little guy" inside of yourself always seems to be the right thing to do. And if analyzed, I suspect is spiritual input.


3) Twice in my life I felt as if something was making me say something and I just could not shut up. Once just a few years ago.


I copied what you shared and am sending it off to my wife. Well said. Very well said. And again Dking777, thank you for sharing. It was very meaningful.


BuzzCap7
 
tanguerra said:
DKing is a treasure alright! Always wise and insightful, and often funny too. :)
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When he is sober but that is not too often I understand. LOL


I am just kidding, I am just kidding no hate mail please.


BuzzCap7
 
BuzzCap7 said:
When he is sober but that is not too often I understand.
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Wow, that came out of the blue. I am not sure where this comes from. You know, when I had my 1988 NDE I was the manager of a sober living house. I was praying and asking God to led me to a Buddhist monastery. Instead, I ended up running a house full of young people who had serious issues with alcohol and drugs. I was in my 'zone' then and it didn't take me long to assess the situation these young minds were facing. Resentments. They all accused me of being an undercover AA operative. I knew nothing about the program then, but years later I studied it and realized, I was promoting the same message. You will find that same message in the last post I posted here.


When I was 15, no one had expected me to live past the age of 14. My family and Doctors were all planing my funeral. When I did survive and it looked like I was going to walk with an adult mind in this world the Doctors I worked with saw future and potential problems ahead of me. Why? Resentments. I had spent 9 years being physically, mentally and emotionally abused by a 'cardiac condition.' It was like someone was constantly pounding a jackhammer on my chest. They felt the only way to treat me was through a 12 step process to help me resolve any future resentments I had about the pain, suffering and agony I had endured as a child. The amnesia I encountered at the age of 18 was a form of 'self-controlled' denial. I used my own form of 'self-hypnosis' during the process and after it happened the Doctors were shocked and went out of their way to prepare me for the day the memories would return. They felt there was potential danger and they laid a foundation of advise within sort of like a hidden time capsule that was to be utilized when the avalanche of memories started in the future. They were not as concerned about the childhood memories as much as they saw a potential problem with me continually burying painful memories. If someone I knew died, I buried any and all memories of my association and friendship with them. In my mind, they never existed. I didn't realize it at the time but in 2006 I had buried the memories of over 15 people whom I had known very well - and whom had all died at a young age. In a very short time I recalled the deaths of everyone all at one time. It was the most agonizing period in my life. On the flipside I also started recall the many direct contacts with divine spirits and also recalled the 'advice' they had given me as well. (Reincarnation was a major factor in this.)


That avalanche started in 2006. I could metaphorically hear the rumble of something behind me. I felt a pain inside of me akin to a 'hot' rock of burning lava. My Doctors (in the past) had warned me that would be the first sign of trouble. If I increased my intact of alcohol to self medicate then I was heading for a world of trouble and I was advise to seek professional help as soon as possible. They told me the best alternative was to seek out a 12 step program and take control of the flow of memories and peel it back like an onion one layer at a time.


For a three month period, I went from having a couple of drinks on the weekend to a 12 pack. That is when I knew I was in trouble. Prior to that alcohol had never been a problem to me but I stopped drinking in the last months of 2006 and haven't had a drink since then. I was very fortunate to have had professional help in my teen years that laid the foundation for me to have a clear understand of the emotional and psychological problems that were going to hit me like a ton of bricks. There are many other people who struggle with that problem who are not as fortunate as me. When it comes to alcoholism drinking isn't the problem as much as it is a symptom of a deep rooted emotional and psychological problem. We all have our demons and the common struggle throughout the world - is - to over come them.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
tanguerra said:
DKing is a treasure alright! Always wise and insightful, and often funny too. :)
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Thank you for your kind and gracious words. Many people have asked me - 'what is the name of God' after I had my NDE's. It is not a 'word' you can make with your mouth. I remember telling someone that the closest you can come to hearing it here in this world - is - through the sound of laughter. On the other side - when you come face to face with the 'light of eternity' again - and you hear that 'vibration' that identifies the Creator of your soul - you are automatically filled with a ton of joy - that really puts a tickle in your funny bone.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
BuzzCap7 said:
1st off, thank you dearly for sharing and taking the time to write that up. Hopefully u copy and pasted. But taking that much time to help me out...............wow.
2ndly, Also, what you shared with me/us, carries a great deal of weight.
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I love to write. Back in the late 70's and early to mid 80's - I shared testimony of my 'trip to the other side' with many people and they all asked me for a promise. They felt something I had shared with them - had touched them in some mystical way - and they wanted to share that with the rest of the world. They felt I should write a book about my experiences. I didn't think that was possible. Truth is - it was very easy to speak to them at that stage in my life - because I had my 'third eye' open and could hear their spirits talking to me. Truth of the matter was - I was just being a medium for the sake of their own inner spirits. Like you say - there is an 'inner being' hidden away in all of us - and not everyone is in the habit of listening to what is being said to them. I felt the only way I could communicate with someone on the 'mystical subject' matters -- was - one on one. I felt two people had to put their hearts into the conversation before anything meaningful could come of it. But, none the less - everyone asked me for a promise to write it all down and publish it some day. I told them I would try but couldn't promise anything other than that. If God intends for me to write a book - then - it will happen.


So, I get a lot of practice in here on message boards. So, I don't mind writing. It is just practice for the future in an effort to keep many promises I was forced to give in my past.


But I am glad you felt it was a help for you in your own personal spiritual quest.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
Bobbsey Twin


I have wrote about it elsewhere on the board and I am reminded of it again from this thread. You can probably search 'bobbsey' or 'casper' and find the posts I shared about this subject.


I have this long story about the aftermath of my NDE in 1978. I had retrograde amnesia and couldn't remember people from my past. That didn't stop me from functioning at my job. I could remember my duties and how to perform on the job. I just couldn't remember the personal details of my co-workers.


Shortly after my NDE - I was at work and looked up to see something of a 'Casper' looking head leaning out of the body of a co-worker. Since i had no memories to reference, I didn't know if this sort of thing was normal or abnormal. It totally freaked me out but - being a teenager - I didn't want my co-worker to see me sweat about it. When I asked him why he had a 'Casper' leaning out of him looking at me like it was - he was totally deaf, dumb and blind to it.


At one point this 'thing' started engaging me in a conversation and I was told 'he or it' was one of many. We worked in a restaurant and I was told to go look in the dining area - and everyone sitting at their tables had a 'Casper' leaning out of them looking at me.


Later on - I went home and was curious about the part of me from my NDE - that didn't return with me. I was one person as a human and I was something totally different outside of my body and in spirit. I wanted to know if I too - had a Casper who could poke it's head out of me like that. I looked in the mirror and saw this 'bald headed' white and transparent image poke it's head out of my shoulder - and that was all I ever wanted to see of that. I made an agreement with my 'inner self' that I would be all ears if it had something to say to me - as long as it kept it's 'ugly bald head' hidden away from my sight. I told my 'spirit' ---- "If you have knowledge of someone else who is about to poke their ugly bald head up at me -- you tell them to keep their sight to themselves if they want me to listen to anything they have to say to me."


After the first few months- the sight of this 'inner person' faded from my view - but - the conversations continued. In 1986 - I was on the telephone with someone thousands of miles away. We had a bad connection and it was hard for me to hear his human voice - but - his inner spirit was booming in my head loud and clear.


Which leads me to my next topic of my observations of this - in the next thread.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
What I witnessed time and time again about this was -- the two minds (inner and outer) were always in dispute. I told someone that it was like listening to the bickering of a cat and dog. Barking, growling and hissing. So, I felt that our own 'outer mind' was not always the best candidate for 'tuning into' that inner voice of spirit.


I think one of the important roles of a good marriage is to be that 'go-between' for the sake of your partner. The old fashioned marriage wasn't in my own personal cards - so - I formulated 'spiritual partnerships' with friends with this goal in mind.


I had a young friend I felt introduced to - for the sake of this and was able to outline my understanding of it. We made pledges, promises and a vow to one another for this very purpose and cause. He was given permission to 'speak my inner mind' for me - and I was given permission to speak his 'inner mind' for him. People who came around us thought we argued like an 'old married couple.' We wouldn't even notice it. I'd just tune myself out of it because - I felt like the go-between personally. It was only when I spoke his 'inner mind' for him that he would scream, bulk, sulk, spit and argue. I never took it personally and he never took it personally when I did the same. To me, he was just arguing with himself outwardly. To him, I was just arguing with myself outwardly.


So, in response to your original question - I do think it is important to have a 'spiritual partner' or what I viewed as a 'prayer partner.' Someone who is equal inwardly on your own spiritual path - so - that you can grow together.


I do feel this is an important part of a good marriage.


I found that when it is left to the human mind alone - the human mind can 'tune it out' all together. Even when you set your mind to tune it in -- your not going to like everything this 'one' has to say about you. It is 'brutally honest' about your shortcomings. You can fool yourself. You can fool your friends and family -- but - you ain't never going to fool your inner spirit and it will let you know in a very sharp tongued way - 'you is missing the mark.'


That is how you can tell if you have tuned into your own spirit. If it start's praising you, and telling what a great person you are - you better hang up the line because you done got a hold of the wrong spirit. Could just be me - I dunno.


But - I feel that is an important step in a spiritual path. Having a kinship of sorts with another human who is seeking the same sort of enlightenment that you have a desire for. Better to work in pairs for that sort of thing.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
dking777 said:
Wow, that came out of the blue. I am not sure where this comes from.
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Hi there my friend. It was a joke. Said tongue in cheek. I certainly and deeply apologize if it came off any other way.


Nor would I intentionally touch upon anything that could be sensitive in any unpleasant way.


So again, I earnestly apologize if my joking came off as anything but.


BuzzCap7
 
dking777 said:
Thank you for your kind and gracious words. Many people have asked me - 'what is the name of God' after I had my NDE's. It is not a 'word' you can make with your mouth. I remember telling someone that the closest you can come to hearing it here in this world - is - through the sound of laughter. On the other side - when you come face to face with the 'light of eternity' again - and you hear that 'vibration' that identifies the Creator of your soul - you are automatically filled with a ton of joy - that really puts a tickle in your funny bone.
Sincerely,


DKing
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I know exactly what you mean. I can't begin to rival your many experiences of the 'other world', but I have had the occasional small glimpses, and there are no words, and no need of words to understand it. It is pure emotion and pure knowledge.


It's happened to me twice I've had a glimpse of 'God' (however you conceive her) but I think a better word is 'the all' or 'the everything'. The first time it happened I was about 7 years old and sitting in the playground at school, on a seat under a peppercorn tree eating my lunch. Just minding my own business. Hard to describe exactly what happened. It wasn't a flash of light, but my mind was suddenly filled with light, and I just 'knew' and felt that everything is part of the same being/life/creation. It's all one. But at the same time it is made up of billions upon billions of individual parts, the ants, the people, the trees, the suns and stars, the little pieces of rock.... and everything is alive and aware of itself. And yes. A feeling of overwhelming joy.


Then I snapped out of it. Maybe I was eating a peanut butter sandwich and had some kind of bizarre, but benign, allergic reaction? I don't think so personally. :)
 
BuzzCap7 said:
So again, I earnestly apologize if my joking came off as anything but.
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Apology accepted. No harm done. I just wanted to address it - because -- sometimes rumors get started this way.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
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