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Why do people not want to reincarnate?

Would you want to reincarnate after this life? Why or why not? (my first poll thread!)

  • Yes, I would like to, love to, or wouldn't mind reincarnating.

    Votes: 11 44.0%
  • No, I would not like to reincarnate at all.

    Votes: 14 56.0%

  • Total voters
    25
Thanks for the input, I’ll have to try that technique out. It’ll probably just take some practice and patience.
I am probably the worst person to give you input on that, as I never learned a technique. I would probably wait for other members to give you more formal advice, as I have seen fellow members give much better advice than I can.

And also meditation is a big word, there are many shades to it that you can search for specifically :)
 
I recall being very reluctant and am still am still reluctant to be here. Am still asking myself -- why me, why this body, why this place, why these people, yadda yadda yadda.

A lot of my teenage years were spent asking: why am I not at home? Where is home? Why am I here?

Benjamin, I found very touching what your father said about having felt he was going to have children with your mother. I felt that precise feeling before I even had met my current partner (he had no chance, did he??) In a meditation, my future son came to me to tell me he was coming soon. I was 16 at the time and terrified by that. Prior to that I was adamant I wanted no children whatsoever. I made that decision when I was around eight or nine.

This future son of mine let me know who he was and stayed with me for some time. He was a very wise being, wiser than me. It seemed to me to be a special person. He told me some precise information: that I'd meet my 'soulmate' soon, and he would be Spanish. He gave me the feeling of Madrid, too.

I met my Spanish partner when I was 17, when he was studying in London. We conceived when I was 19. I knew this child was a boy, who would have blonde hair and blue eyes. Neither me or my partner have blue eyes. He was born in Madrid. He has blue eyes and blonde hair. He's a special boy, and all the people who meet him, especially older people, take an instant liking to him. His teachers at a recent parents meeting told us that he was very old headed. Every teacher he's had always have a fondness for him. He's very gentle, not aggressive at all, yet is a typical boy spending most of his time playing Minecraft haha...

Were it not for that vision of him I'd have never had kids. It was such a strong feeling. At times I think I'm crazy, question all my decisions. Having kids was a big sacrifice for me, having to give up the start of a promising career. Most folks of our generation don't have kids till there 30's, if at all.
 
I recall being very reluctant and am still am still reluctant to be here. Am still asking myself -- why me, why this body, why this place, why these people, yadda yadda yadda.

A lot of my teenage years were spent asking: why am I not at home? Where is home? Why am I here?

Benjamin, I found very touching what your father said about having felt he was going to have children with your mother. I felt that precise feeling before I even had met my current partner (he had no chance, did he??) In a meditation, my future son came to me to tell me he was coming soon. I was 16 at the time and terrified by that. Prior to that I was adamant I wanted no children whatsoever. I made that decision when I was around eight or nine.

This future son of mine let me know who he was and stayed with me for some time. He was a very wise being, wiser than me. It seemed to me to be a special person. He told me some precise information: that I'd meet my 'soulmate' soon, and he would be Spanish. He gave me the feeling of Madrid, too.

I met my Spanish partner when I was 17, when he was studying in London. We conceived when I was 19. I knew this child was a boy, who would have blonde hair and blue eyes. Neither me or my partner have blue eyes. He was born in Madrid. He has blue eyes and blonde hair. He's a special boy, and all the people who meet him, especially older people, take an instant liking to him. His teachers at a recent parents meeting told us that he was very old headed. Every teacher he's had always have a fondness for him. He's very gentle, not aggressive at all, yet is a typical boy spending most of his time playing Minecraft haha...

Were it not for that vision of him I'd have never had kids. It was such a strong feeling. At times I think I'm crazy, question all my decisions. Having kids was a big sacrifice for me, having to give up the start of a promising career. Most folks of our generation don't have kids till there 30's, if at all.
That is a fascinating story, Landsend. Thank you a lot for sharing it with us!

Indeed what a brave choice you made! And a baby with two cultures! It is going to be a very interesting adventure, Life, for him.

It reminds me of the story my parents told me about my birth. They met, and both were hit by a strong realization that they would be marrying and having children together. It was instantaneous. Somehow, my english mother always thought she would live in France. When she was a child, she sometimes had thoughts in French language, and always knew she would live there. And prior to my birth, my parents had a lot of images. They knew before doing a pregnancy test. The story for them (and me!) goes all the way to my name, which came to them a few weeks before my birth. They both saw a movie called "My uncle Benjamin" about a french doctor in rural 18th century France, who was a pure free thinker, devoted to care for the left behind. They told me they were hit, at the same time, by the same clear thought that this is the name their son wanted..and here I am named Benjamin :D
 
That is a fascinating story, Landsend. Thank you a lot for sharing it with us!

Indeed what a brave choice you made! And a baby with two cultures! It is going to be a very interesting adventure, Life, for him.

It reminds me of the story my parents told me about my birth. They met, and both were hit by a strong realization that they would be marrying and having children together. It was instantaneous. Somehow, my english mother always thought she would live in France. When she was a child, she sometimes had thoughts in French language, and always knew she would live there. And prior to my birth, my parents had a lot of images. They knew before doing a pregnancy test. The story for them (and me!) goes all the way to my name, which came to them a few weeks before my birth. They both saw a movie called "My uncle Benjamin" about a french doctor in rural 18th century France, who was a pure free thinker, devoted to care for the left behind. They told me they were hit, at the same time, by the same clear thought that this is the name their son wanted..and here I am named Benjamin :D

That reminds me of my son, too, he seemed to choose his name. My sister said his name to me some time before I was pregnant but I dismissed her. It was a composition of both mine and my partners fathers names. Eventually it grew on me and no other name seemed to fit. We ended up living on the outskirts of Madrid city in the community of Madrid, in a mountain town where a very famous bullfighter comes from. By some conincidence he has the exact same double barrel name as my son, and it’s not really a typical combination in Spain. My son also was born under the sign of Taurus which again is another synchronicity of the bull there.

As well as past lives the subject of pre life communication fascinates me.

Tanker I don’t want to romanticise things. For me this pathway has been one of the hardest things I’ve had to deal with. Battling with my internal problems and suffering, as well as my own gender identity problems — whilst managing three children. It ain’t for the faint hearted. Often I question what I’ve done. There was a big element of naivety on mine and my partners part. But isn’t there always?
 
I recall being very reluctant and am still am still reluctant to be here. Am still asking myself -- why me, why this body, why this place, why these people, yadda yadda yadda.

A lot of my teenage years were spent asking: why am I not at home? Where is home? Why am I here?

I asked those questions all the time (why am I here, why am I with these people, etc..) when I was younger, and I still do now. Your comment made me realize how much I actually do that, it’s like there’s this little voice in my head constantly saying “out of all the places how did I end up here?”. Where I live really doesn’t feel like home to me. There’s not even anything wrong with the place I live, it’s just my issue with it not feeling like “home” if that makes sense.
I’m definitely longing for a specific place that feels like home, but I’m not quite sure where it is.
 
@Kenz1010 Ahhh, know the feeling. I moved to Spain for a while and lived there for three years and still ended up back here. Family does that... think I found my 'home' back in America, but trouble is, it's no longer my home. I have to get there one day and step foot on that ground and take some of the soil back with me.

Who knows what the future holds? If my life has shown me something, always expect the unexpected. We could be anywhere in the future. And as they say, home is where the heart is.
 
For me it's probably less the family home I lived in my previous existence than the actual state of Texas. Though I'd probably go to the street and look at the house and probably knock on the door to see how amicable the current occupants are. Recently my partner saw someone have on the bumper of their car 'Once a Texan Always A Texan'. Made me grin and I have to agree.

I have already planned in my head a roadtrip from the West Coast to the East, ending in Washington DC to see the VN War Wall memorial. Probably will be some time before that can happen.
 
Dear Cat1965, I want to give you my personal opinion regarding AI and the future of mankind.

I don't think you need to be so stressed out about the catastrophy you predict, simply because I don't think AI as you predict it will be sentient anytime soon. I have worked extensively with algorithms, both in Europe and China, and am now heavily involved with developing AI in the field of Healthcare. While it might sound scary, it is actually, I think, to the benefit of mankind to have this kind of development. These tools, which are human-made (I could point you out to several studies I have in my possession that Algorithms actually are heavily influenced by the gender and culture of the developers who design them), are actually being used to help us with tasks that are now testing the very limits of our intellect (such as protein-folding, which is the holy grail of many fields of science, or in my personal case, how we can improve the success rate of Immunotherapy treatments of cancer patients).

I actually think this could be a great leap forward for mankind, as I hope it will give us the opportunity to develop other aspects of our human intelligence, which is not just about intellect. While machine-learning, deep neural networks and, in a near future, self-improving algorithms are extremely good at dealing with data, there is other aspects of our human intelligence that our societies have neglected: an algorithm will never be able to deal with emotions, and I highly doubt that AI will ever get anywhere near to being sentient or self-aware. That won't happen anytime soon, and I highly doubt that any kind of technology we develop will take their own path towards being self-relient or, as many sci-fi writers put it, deciding that humankind is no longer needed. That comes from the belief that our minds are simply dealing with 0 and 1, bits of data that our brains compute, and I think that on this forum we often raise points that show that we are SO MUCH MORE than that :)

That being said, we will need to reinvent our societies because, as of today, we need all these jobs for people to make a living, and the easiest-to-replace jobs are now disappearing because of automation: it leaves whole groups of people out of a living. Well maybe in the future we will be able to have a system in which automated work will be taxed to provide for the people who are denied a career because of it. As a famous comedian said in France "People want jobs, but that's not true, all they are looking for in the end is money on the table" :)
Hmm. Not so long ago there were programmers in a panic due to some AI having developed an exclustive language that they couldn't translate. Does make one wonder.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
All across the forum, every time the question arises as to whether or not someone would want to come back, there's, more times than not, a resounding no. I've seen one person besides myself that i can recall on this site say they do want to return.

I want to come back after this life and honestly, i wouldn't have it any other way, but then again, those of you who've been avid readers of my post obviously know why, and I'm guessing my reasoning for wanting to reincarnate are not all that related to reasons why most of you don't really want to. So my question to those of you who don't is... well... how come?
Having written of it elsewhere on this site, I shan't repeat the details. In a nutshell, I didn't want to return again this time, I know how old I will be when I go and how I go and I shall definitely put up a 100% almighty battle to not return again after this 'life'. I'd rather simply not exist at all than return again.
I used to think David Icke was a bit barmy and still don't go for his beliefs on shapeshifting reptilians. However, a lot of eccentric people do happen to be highly intelligent - or maybe that is vice versa and he certainly is correct about a lot else (not all, but ever such a lot) about politics and spiritual matters, imo. Due to my memories of two inbetween states I go with what he says about archons. If not archons then something along those lines.
Of course others will think differently and it is their freedom to do so, therefore my views are not a challenge to the views of others, and I am not up for a debate or argument about it. The question is raised and that is just my own opinion in the mix.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
@TheDivineOne
I’ve heard many people who remember the ‘life-in between’ say that they remember choosing their next life path/ plan. Like they were given options.
Do you have any memories from the life in between? Maybe you chose to reincarnate as a male?

No, I don't, and that's my whole thing right now. I don't "remember" anything about my past life (except for brief "visions" that I can't be entirely sure are true, not that I want to know about my past life anyway) or the in-between life. That contributes to why things had been so hard for me as far as not being entirely sure I'll get to even come back again, much less be a girl. If i had any memory of my past life, or any recollection of "choosing" to be male here, I would be optimistic about me "choosing" to be female in my next life. Secondly, I still find it hard to believe that I would chose this. I don't mean this to say I didn't or didn't have the freedom to chose, per se, but that's another reason why I refused to believe I could "chose" my gender between lives.

But on another note though, I visualize and fantasize every day about my next life and what i want my female body to look like then. I'm strongly starting to believe that's who I'll be next time around so I am starting to feel like maybe we can chose.
 
Hmm. Not so long ago there were programmers in a panic due to some AI having developed an exclustive language that they couldn't translate. Does make one wonder.

Best wishes,

Angie
Your are very right, Angie, I should have made it more clear that AI, in itself, is a very powerful tool that, used for destructive purposes, is incredibly dangerous to our future as a specy.

Things that scare me, for instance, is the development of AI for warfare. Predictive algorithms are already being used prior to drone strikes (data gathered by drones is analyzed by an algorithm, such as the amount of phonecalls made on one specific location. Any odd occurrence is then forwarded to an overworked Drone pilot, who then has to make a decision based on the software analysis. This is why we now have such sad (and common) news such as weddings being often targeted by drone strikes.

Likewise, some weapon systems are now said to be able to operate in a complete loop without human intervention, such as - allegedly - on the DMZ between the two Koreas. Turrets equipped with machineguns now have the alleged ability to analyse one's stance and take the decision to fire, based on the analysis made by the software. Such a sad use.

Another scary use of AI that I have been personally briefed on is the ability of a predictive software to determine that a buyer, based on his history of purchases, had become pregnant - without her knowing it.

Like many other tools we have developed, the usage for AI is developing faster than the regulations to keep it in line, and I hope that we will be able to limit its use for the greater good, and not only for mercantile usages, or worse, for destructive means.
 
Your are very right, Angie, I should have made it more clear that AI, in itself, is a very powerful tool that, used for destructive purposes, is incredibly dangerous to our future as a specy.

Things that scare me, for instance, is the development of AI for warfare. Predictive algorithms are already being used prior to drone strikes (data gathered by drones is analyzed by an algorithm, such as the amount of phonecalls made on one specific location. Any odd occurrence is then forwarded to an overworked Drone pilot, who then has to make a decision based on the software analysis. This is why we now have such sad (and common) news such as weddings being often targeted by drone strikes.

Likewise, some weapon systems are now said to be able to operate in a complete loop without human intervention, such as - allegedly - on the DMZ between the two Koreas. Turrets equipped with machineguns now have the alleged ability to analyse one's stance and take the decision to fire, based on the analysis made by the software. Such a sad use.

Another scary use of AI that I have been personally briefed on is the ability of a predictive software to determine that a buyer, based on his history of purchases, had become pregnant - without her knowing it.

Like many other tools we have developed, the usage for AI is developing faster than the regulations to keep it in line, and I hope that we will be able to limit its use for the greater good, and not only for mercantile usages, or worse, for destructive means.
Quite. Indeed every scientific and technological advancement that could be used only for good becomes corrupted and is instead used for the utmost cruelty. Again, something that couldn't happen without banksters - "If my sons did not want wars there would be none". I don't know how the masses don't turn on and disempower them instead of attacking each other. They kept themselves under the radar of the public and when I was young we simply didn't know, but now they have achieved almost all they intend and enough people do now know yet still people march and protest at specific places in capital cities - instead of where they live. Shows just how much marches and protests are merely organised by controlled opposition for the public to let of enough steam so as to remain manageable and not explode. My late father drummed it into me to stay away from protests because there are often troublemakers and it would be too easy to be caught up in the middle of them, and that such marches actually seldom achieve anything because they take place well away from those who are in power.

Now we know it is specifically banksters again with the other twelve 'elite' bloodlines, the bain of every race and natural religion.
 
This thought came to mind at work today that incarnating in this world for many is like ending up like a mouse that had just got stuck in a glue trap where everything becomes a struggle while getting nowhere.
What David Icke says about archons makes sense to me. I definitely feel trapped against my will. I don't know so much about shapeshifting reptiles, but archons or whatever they are called, that strikes true to me although I am sure there is more to it. If I ever think I have figured it out in this life with enough certainty so as to not mislead people then I will post it here.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
The way I see it ... I have a lot of fun in kindergarten; do I want to stay in kindergarten, or I'm looking forward to go to school?

At he other end of the spectrum ... Do I want to continue going to my daily job, or I want to retire? I don't think this is the case of the reincarnation.
Not sure why you removed your reply about "how do you explain to gut bacteria how your world works". Interesting comment. Makes some sense to me as it is clearly a very deep rabbit hole. What are your thoughts along those lines?

Best wishes,

Angie
 
I am ok with it but being broke and having to take care of family through so much difficulty is a pain in the ***, the next time around I don't want to be broke. Instead of a "normal" Thanksgiving I had to take my mom to the hospital today.... I can only be envious of others who have normal happy unburdened lives of ease and prosperity especially if their family life is perfect with only tiny petty issues to moan about but other wise perfect. The last few rounds couldn't have been great either as the scars are obvious that things haven't been well off nor easy for sometime. I hope that the next life is a one of balance and relative ease at least where health and survival are not the big concerns, the lack of spirituality in this modern society is very concerning.

The way I see it ... I have a lot of fun in kindergarten; do I want to stay in kindergarten, or I'm looking forward to go to school?

At he other end of the spectrum ... Do I want to continue going to my daily job, or I want to retire? I don't think this is the case of the reincarnation.
My apologies. I now see that for some reason my email 'view thread' took me to the wrong convesation entirely. So you didn't remove the comment after all. What you said though still makes sense if applied to this conversation as well, imo.

Best wishes,

Angie
 
Wrong thread, probably. The comment still can be found in the "Are we stardust?" thread.
It was the wrong thread. I hit a reply button instead of the like button on a comment. It won't let me delete the original quoted comment I only intended to like. Maybe to do with the site clean up. Gremlins. Lol

Best Wishes,

Angie
 
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