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Hi Mere Dreamer.. I have watched the video again twice.. I will post each time I understand more.. What I understand is... even in Ancient Egypt over millenniums the physical gods that came to us from the light of the second sun evolved into mystical gods .. so the reinterpretations of the gods the only true gods the physical gods began at least 3000 years before Jesus was born and it continued on from there
I will watch it more and as I understand what happened I will post more... BB is a fundamentalist... to the very extreme... he was there from the very beginning ...He is pure in his purpose of what needs to be done and what he will do to reestablish the only true gods back on earth He is my pure spiritual self...

All the Best
 
Very interesting... some of the things that were talked about I have also talked about on the forum.. and as you know my knowledge does not come from the writings and beliefs of others but from what has been communicated to me..

Hi Mere Dreamer.. I have watched the video again twice.. I will post each time I understand more.. What I understand is... even in Ancient Egypt over millenniums the physical gods that came to us from the light of the second sun evolved into mystical gods .. so the reinterpretations of the gods the only true gods the physical gods began at least 3000 years before Jesus was born and it continued on from there

I thought it sounded like the story on those tablets might be related to what you were talking about. There are interesting parallels, then, though it's not completely the same. I appreciate you letting me know your reactions in light of what you've been learning from BB.
 
HI Mere Dreamer.. I watched the video again and have mediated on this twice... Except for a couple of things its a very different account of the gods than those of Ancient Egypt... even though they were both physical gods...As you know I do not trust the writings of others in this incarnation.. I have good reasons for not trusting them and the writings left behind by the ancients including Ancient Egypt.. BB witnessed the manipulation of the writings much the same as today that reflects the opinions, needs and beliefs of those in positions of power so any references to writings on tablets and scrolls I take with a grain of salt and so should everyone else ...If you threw all of the writings into one pool including the bible would they be listed on the New York Times best selling list as fiction or non fiction? I'm very suspicious when great detail is given and presented as some sort of facts.. as happens in the video.. The physical gods that came to us were not alien they were born to mothers from the south and east.. When we asked them where did they come from they pointed to things around us and said see that and that and that....that is exactly the same as where we come from.. I don't think my gods had any plans to return
but what they thought would happen has not so they will start over...The manipulation of our DNA is way out there... that never happened..I can also tell the histories there was no great flood millenniums ago before the biblical flood that is a complete fantasy.. It is proof to me how hypothesize's turns into imaginations.. fantasies ..then presented as facts.. as is the case with many things.. I only talk about what has been communicated to me... any talk of aliens feels completely wrong to me.. the physical gods who came to us were not aliens...

All The Best
 
Hi John,

I also watched the video. The whole Anunnaki thing is interesting, but it doesn't sound like what you have been talking about all this time. There are definitely some similarities, but also significant differences.

However, my question has to do with the projected victory over chaos. I am interested in whether you are talking about chaos at the level we have now, or some even greater state of chaos in the future? If future chaos is greater, do you have any idea about the cause for this increased level of chaos? Is this just chaos in Egypt, or everywhere?

Cordially,
S&S
 
If you threw all of the writings into one pool including the bible would they be listed on the New York Times best selling list as fiction or non fiction?
I love this question. I feel that most of it is fiction, though also an interesting glimpse into the psyche of those who believe it. People interpret and expand the details of a report or memory into a mythology for some very simple reasons ... whether supporting their own world view, making the story more interesting to tell, or controlling someone who challenges them.

When I find ideas like the ones in the video, I'm often looking for the faint traces of the original story that started the ball rolling into this mass of fiction. The actual tablets from which the creator of the video extrapolated their version of the story are a lot less "clear" than they claim when it comes to many of the details you objected to. (I really don't see how they came to their conclusions, myself. Heh.) The flood is easily explained when we recognize that floods happen all the time. Some very destructive.

The part I was most curious about was the alien hypothesis (though not the random planet/slavery element of that), and you say they are definitely not alien according to BB. That's interesting in itself, because I wondered where this sense of "being gods" as opposed to merely being "powerful humans" originated.

Would you say it's their spiritual advancement (quality of spiritual connection) that makes BB's gods "gods" then? In this battle against chaos, what power/gifts/abilities do they bring that aren't available to the average "spiritually advanced" human? Do they actually consider themselves to be human?
 
Hi Mere Dreamer Good questions I also ask about my gods... It's impossible for me to give any accurate account of who they are.. what I can do is talk about what has been communicated to me then use that and my inner understandings to speculate to a certain degree about the little I do know about them
I am drawn back to what was communicated to me and I have talked about on the forum before "maybe we have got it wrong that its not about the physical becoming spiritual but the spiritual becoming physical"... when I can go back and talk about things that have been communicated to me it makes it easy to explain other things... I have no idea if the transition to both spiritual and physical is what happens to all of our spiritual selves or to just a select few.. this I feel are the foundations of who my gods are....What I have to do most times is to go to my computer and prewrite a reply... I did with his this reply and finished up with six A4 pages of reply.. it went on and on about . the mothers of the gods.. who would impregnate them... the ritual a physical entity must go through as he dies to allow this transition to happen.. the current physical plays a very important roll in the transition.....the detail many many details .. During my meditations last night I was told just to talk about what I have and not to pass on to much including how a spirit evolves to the point of having the abilities to transform himself... was a big no no.. the details I had written went on and on
I feel comfortable passing on the following speculation..that is all its is...... When I look at what we Ancient Egyptians believed about death.. and the gods telling us where they came from was exactly the same as here.. those two things have me wondering...is the spiritual another dimension of the physical... the spiritual dimension?.. both places are the same as the gods told us The gods are different because being in either is the same for them... I cannot speak for the gods.. I don't know if they see themselves as spiritually advanced humans while they are here in physical form or see themselves as gods.. What is obvious when a spirit also becomes physical they bring all of there great spiritual knowledge and abilities to there physical form..so what is your opinion of who they are?...They most certainly are not aliens
Its interesting when you look at the Christian interruptions of Jesus its almost identical to this only they replaced a spiritual self with a god..

Regards S&S I will reply to you questions in a couple of days
 
Hi S&S ... just a couple of things in reply to your questions... It's everywhere not just in Egypt.. But Egypt will be dealt with first.. The invaders will be driven out of our homeland and destroyed.. that is a separate issue for my gods and especially to BB ..
I think its important to understand what chaos is... According to the online Oxford dictionary ... chaos is complete disorder and confusion... The physic's definition is interesting...The property of a complete system who's behavior is so unpredictable as to appear random owing to great sensitivity to small changes in conditions
Those definitions are fine but are not the same as my gods... What my god's definition of chaos is.....is what is relevant in this discussion...these types of things are always difficult for me because I'm trying to understand the words and how those words make up the concept or whatever it is of what they are communicating to me... they communicate in there own ways of who they are ... as I have said before I haven't heard before some of the words they use...which makes me go over and over again what they have communicated and try and figure out what those words are/mean ... so the best words I can come up with that describes my gods definition of chaos is....it is the lack of positive outcomes and has been since the beginnings of Ancient Egypt... My understanding of that is....if you do not have positive outcomes you have chaos.. so it's a lack of positive outcomes that is chaos.. Out of the sea's of chaos...(the lack of positive outcomes)... must rise a positive outcome for chaos to end
From the little I understand of what this fully means is.....positive outcomes for all not just for some... peace for all not just for some... and so it goes on and on
You don't have to think to hard to understand that positive outcomes have been declining for millenniums... The time has come and gone when actions by my gods should have happened.. but everything must come into its proper order first... which is next time for BB
This most certainly does not mean there are no positive outcomes.. just not enough of them to maintain balance...there must always be balance... I don't think even the experts in Ancient Egypt understood that is what balance was/is to us
BB views this as a disease of humanity.. that must be cut away

Regards
 
Hi John,

Very interesting post. Questions:

(1) How is a positive outcome defined? From the perspective of "the invaders", being driven out of Egypt and destroyed would certainly not seem like a positive outcome. Likewise, how would it be defined for those outside of Egypt, where chaos also reigns? I like the idea of positive outcomes, but I'm not sure what this means.

(2) At this point, how are "invaders" defined? The native Egyptians (the Copts) converted to Christianity at the beginning of the current era, and I believe they have largely been displaced or absorbed by the Arab Muslim invaders that came later. So, I believe there may be very few native Egyptians left, and few or none of these that still practice the old religion.

(3) You make me wonder whether the restoration of balance in Egypt and casting out the invaders is going to be accomplished by the Egyptian souls that you say have remained in the spiritual displacing the other souls/spirits that are currently inhabiting bodies in Egypt. Does that sound like what is being foretold to you?

I believe this is an extremely important and interesting post, and hope for more on this subject. Thanks!

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S.. sorry it has taken longer that I thought to reply to your post.. but it's taken me sometime to find the words to accurately describe what I wanted to pass on .. this does happens at times...I can write a sentence then look at it but it's not right... the words do not say what I want them to say.. what is in my mind.. so I write the sentence again and it's still not right... it can go on and on... Many times I walk away then go back to it at another time.. With this post I'm happy with some of it.. but only ok with the rest of it... but it's the best I can do
Before I begin I believe it's important for me to point out this post is a combination if what has been communicated to me... my own memories... and my own speculations based on those communications and memories
Driving the invaders out of Egypt... our homeland... and destroying them as I said is a separate issue .. and should be treated as such.. The invaders are easily defined...they are all of those who have poisoned our homeland by who they are and what they have done/did... who they are and who they once were and what they have turned into are all the same
There is no mystery about of who will go to Egypt... Both my source and BB believe it will be necessary to put strict measures on who we will allow in as the world see's what Egypt has to offer them.. we have always welcomed peoples from other lands.. Many will come from the original lands the original tribes came from.. they will be made most welcome.. many of them have still got Ancient Egyptian in them.. there spiritual self...that will be our new beginning.. it will also allow the thousands of powerful spiritual selves from Ancient Egypt to return home
What is a positive outcome?...(negative outcomes create chaos they are chaos).. First of all the gods cannot control all positive outcomes.. most happen and will continue to happen by the efforts of others in the physical.. What the gods can do is create an environment where positive outcomes can happen far more often
The gods can and will begin chains of reactions that will result in positive outcomes.. Positive outcomes are not feats of magic... things must be planned and put in there proper order that results in positive outcomes.. What is a positive outcomes to my gods?...that they will set in motion to happen...they can only be guided to what is best and positive by who they are... a positive outcome for them should also be a positive outcome for most
The following in my opinion is extremely important and is one of the major causes of chaos.. The rest of this post was by far the hardest for me .. I worked hard on it to get it as accurate as I can
Since the first rock was used to crush something and/or break something open.. technology has changed almost everything...Within my tribe I had my family and my belongings...then there was the family of the tribe then later on a family of a group of tribes...If one tribe developed a better stone axe then all of the tribes adopted that axe.. and so it went on.. Those thing I have memories off.. the following I do not...its what I believed happened based on my memories ..If a tribe unknown to us came to where we were who had technology we did not have and we had technology they did not have ..I have little or no doubts we would have shared our technology... we would have learnt from each other... my memories tell me over a long period of time no tribe or no one person had an advantage over the other with technology.. it seemed to even itself out...which resulted in balance
Today not all technology is shared.. Those with the resources develop new technologies ... they decide if they will share it for financial gain...or not share it at all because of the power the technology gives them over others.. both of these outcomes creates negative outcomes ... chaos... worldwide chaos
Technology must be controlled by one group to prevent it from creating chaos (negative outcomes).. there must be a controlling factor to it all..
When the gods left us.. the tribes of the Nile...I have talked about this before so I have no desire to go through the whole thing again.. they left within some of us advanced technology ... which over time changed almost everything.. Technology that can never be shared did happen back then ... that resulted in many many positive outcomes..... The point I'm trying to make is...advanced technology used and controlled in the proper manner by only one group can and does produce positive outcomes.. and that's what the gods will once again bring to the physical and is an important part of bringing positive outcomes. ending chaos and returning to balance.. advance technology ends the chaos created by inferior technology and that will bring positive outcomes especially when that technology will only be know to and controlled by those in Egypt
How many in the world will have to die to make that point will be up to others not my gods.. BB will be used for cutting away the disease chaos has created
It will be a brutal time.. the following is complete speculation on my part.. but it feels accurate by what has been passed onto me... those responsible for creating the chaos and those plotting against us will be sort out and destroyed. I get a real message although not complete.. that because of either there abilities or technology they will know who they are and where they are and will go to them and destroy them.. Nobody can hide from the gods.. that's what it feels like to me.. I don't understand enough to know if this advanced technology controlled in Egypt will also control wealth...probably will
The overall positive outcome will be...the world will have a new dawn of great prosperity and peace .. that will show everyone who delivered that to them... the only true gods. When the people come to understand they are far better off than before they will have no desires to return to the old ways
Technology and religion are the sources of almost all chaos ... both will come into balance

Regards
 
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Hi John,

Thanks! I know this took a lot of work and a lot of thought. I will be thinking about what you have said for a while myself, but I do have some preliminary impressions/questions.

First, I suppose my thoughts are going to just have to be different from your thoughts on some things. For example, I cannot see the beings you call "gods" the way you/BB and your source see them, or how the tribes of the Nile saw them, or how the Ancient Egyptians saw them--as gods. That does not mean that such extremely advanced and powerful beings do not exist, but only that such beings may have been beyond the understanding of you/BB, your source, the tribes of the Nile, and Ancient Egypt. Thus, you probably labeled them and understood them the best you could in those far gone times. But I am not sure that your understanding or your labels ("gods") were/are capable of capturing and comprehending them in their fullness/reality. I do not know how to label them either, though I do believe there are beings who are much more advanced and powerful than we are--I just wouldn't call them "gods".

Second, the world could certainly use a new dawn of great prosperity and peace. But I wonder if its dawning will be as brutal as you think or as has been passed on to you. Are you sure that you/BB and your source are not just anticipating this because that is the way things were at the time of Ancient Egypt? The beings you call gods may have a more peaceful way to accomplish this. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

Third, do you have any kind of timeline for this? If this is to occur during your next lifetime, and you come back fairly quickly and have time to grow up, that could be anywhere from 20 to 120 years from now. I wish I had a little bit better idea of the timing involved. Have you foreseen any events that will have occurred before this return to establish positive outcomes?

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S
I think its important for me to clarify who my gods are....There are at times posts about god(s) and who they are... the following is based on my memories and communications
We all talk about god(s) but what is a god? Religions and almost everyone also have there own opinions and definitions.. for me its simple.. what is real and what is not
I have always said the only true gods are physical gods and were born to mothers from the south and east
My gods are no more alien than Jesus was ... Jesus did exist in the physical... that is a fact.. my gods came to the tribes of the Nile.... for me that is a fact.. BB was there when they came to us
Mystical gods are a completely different thing.. ... its claimed they perform miracles and mystical things generated by who they are ... impossible things for physical entities to do.. almost all are known to be symbolic and never actually happened ... my gods have before and will again used there wisdom and abilities to create and build a better world by there physical actions ... just as they have done before
The mystical gods is a concept that claims change will come to them... the believers of the mystical gods by mystical and magical events there gods will perform in the physical.. the problem is... those things will never happen... history is absolute proof of that .. Many of those believers are good people and do plenty of very good things in the name of there god .... ok there are the very rare occasions where random events come together and events happen that are claimed to be acts of god .. There is most certainly no harm in believing that... Things like that also happen to all of us in smaller ways .. something happens and we say to ourselves wow I was lucky that happened... If people want to believe they are all acts of there god then that's also ok... but that's not how my gods take control of the physical and change things for the better... relying on random events to save us is not the way to go... that's the reason things just get worse and worse... also waiting for some mystical god to step in and fix things... that's never going to happen.. in other words having the faith a mystical god will fix things which is never going to happen is not the way to go ... I don't even have to speculate what will happen by believing that.. its unfolding in front of us now... I think there is some mystical belief that just before the world blows up a mystical god will step in a fix things or something like that... what a load of bs
My physical gods will use what is available to them in the physical.. technology..to restore balance.. just as they have done before..
My gods were born to mothers for the south and east... they are physical gods... and they will return.. they are not aliens.. they are the same as us who will once again be born to mothers from the south and east... that is the only way they can return..that is very important... that is the only way they can return.. they must be born again into the physical.. there will be no spacecrafts or mystical events or anything else ... only physical birth.. they are physically the same as us
Yes it will be extremely brutal... BB has been in many battles/situations where the powerful and influential do not want to give up there power and influence... they are blinded by there arrogance and there perceived importance of who they are.. next time will not be any different.. These things have nothing to do with how it was in the past.. its all about some things never change.. and BB and my source are well aware of that... many many are going to die and many of them will then be dealt with in there spiritual form after the physical dies
Do I have a timeline on when this will begin?... not really...although recently I have a need... more like an obsession to research something... this is how I search it... what will the world be like in the last three decades of this century...maybe that is connected.. but how would I know?


Regards
 
Hi John,

I think your last statement may provide a timeline. However, like you, I would have a hard time guessing what the world will be like that far in the future. Basically, you're talking about 50+ years from now. I grew up reading Sci Fi and thinking/reading a lot about what the future would bring and what things would be like 50+ years in the future--which is now. At that time, the big predictions tended to be:

International relations: A nuclear war ravaged planet on the one hand, or some type of global government (which might have been dictatorial).

Technological advance: In terms of transportation, lots of space travel, monorails, flying cars, etc. Lots of nuclear power. In terms of communications, some prognostications for portable communication devices (similar to the cell phone), but lots more for 3D television. In terms of computers, big main-frames, lots of household automation, and possibly some humanoid type robots.

Climate: Back then the big predictions were that we were due for an Ice Age.

Social: A lot more equality (or at least equal treatment) of people on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, etc.--but not much change in terms of gender relations or acceptable sexual behavior. [Edit: I forgot to mention horrible over-population and resultant starvation, poverty, etc.]

SO, what can I say from the prognostications of 50+ years ago? THE AUTHORS AND THINKERS OF THE TIME GOT ALMOST NOTHING RIGHT.

International relations: These continue to muddle along with some shifts in terms of the principal players. The biggest changes seem to be: A continuing global energy crisis and the rise of radical Islam as an international threat. The Soviet Union fell, but the Russian Federation has ended up being pretty surly and obstructive. Communist China went through a radical economic expansion, and now may be more of a threat to the current world order than before. The continued demographic decline of Europe coupled with its import of workers from Islamic countries (to keep its social welfare systems going) looks like it may end in Europe's final conquest (from within) by Islam (which failed to accomplish this through military force over more than a millenium).

Technological advance: Transportation is much the same as it was then--cars, trains, jets, ships--though somewhat upgraded. Space travel is still muddling around with chemical rockets, and has not advanced nearly as fast as expected. Not a lot of nuclear power (at least in the U.S.). The biggest techno changes have had to do with information technology, personal computers, the internet, etc.

Climate: The latest craze is human created global warming, which generates a lot more hysteria and bad science than the formerly predicted ice age.

Social: Radical feminism and its impact were really not on anyone's minds back then (at least not to my recall). The same was generally true of the sexual revolution, including alternate sexualities, etc. Actually, I don't think we were thinking about anything much but a nicer and more complete version of what we were trying to accomplish in the early 60s. [Edit: on the overpopulation issue with starvation, poverty, etc.--there are definitely areas that don't have as much food as they need, as well as impoverished areas, but I don't hear as much about famines a I used to back then--in any case, this doesn't seem to have become the predicted global issue]

ANYHOW, you can come up with your own list. However, it seems to me that reasoned prognostications got almost nothing correct. And, overall, the biggest and most important changes always seemed to come from directions that no one was expecting. Consequently, in terms of 50+ years in the future, you may want to think of areas of change that no one is really looking for or that actually defy current predictions.

Cordially,
S&S
 
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Hi S&S I just read your post and like most times I agree with what you said..We have our major differences but with many things we agree The more I read about the predication the more I see many come from there imaginations of the authors..What I'm finding interesting is governments predication on what they must do to provide for those future times BB and my source have me on some education line which they often do to give me better understandings...as you know I'm not well endowed with knowledge on many things... I have a feeling the timeline may be right ....right to what degree is hard to say..but I keep getting the tribes... the tribes... the tribes..its all about the tribes... I don't understand what that means.. its going to take meditations to try and find out what that means.. the tribes... the tribes... the tribes..I think it's important to what is going to happen

Regards
 
Hi John,

It sounds like you need to find out as much as you can that relates to the status of the people that made up the ancient tribes. The only people that I know of that have strongly and consistently identified themselves as the descendants of the ancient Egyptians are the Copts. As I previously mentioned, the native peoples of Egypt converted to Christianity before the Arab/Muslim conquests of the 600s-700s. Some converted to Islam after the conquest and merged with the Arab conquerors. The only ones who adamantly and consistently claim pure Egyptian heritage are the remaining Christian Copt minority in Egypt and elsewhere. You can read more about them here--

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_identity

As the article states:

"Copts resisted Arab nationalism by stressing their pre-Arab identity. They saw themselves as the direct descendants of the Ancient Egyptians, and their language as a bridge linking the Copts to their Ancient Egyptian roots and their civilization that span over 6000 years."

There are also genetic studies that may be important in terms of what you're looking for, but I haven't time at the moment to look into them in detail:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt

Interestingly, since you are looking for people coming from the South and East, there are apparently Copts in Sudan south of current Egypt with distinctive genetic markers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt#Copts

Here are images related to the idea that Modern Copts are the real Egyptians, which you may find interesting:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mod...&ved=0ahUKEwis_7uJyJnbAhXj1IMKHSt6CgYQsAQIgAE

OTOH, here is an article that asserts that despite the fact that it is the Christian minority that preserves the language and most vigorously asserts its ancient heritage, almost all Egyptians are still genetically non-Arab, including the Muslim population:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jul/08/egyptian-arab-cultural-identity

I don't know what all of this adds up to, but it seems to me that you may be called to find out what has happened to the descendants of the ancient Egyptians and where they are currently located.

Cordially,
S&S
 
I usually find things in this thread interesting even though I sometimes come across as negative. I think it is because of being a spoiled American who sees dictators as being like Kim Jong-un rather than God. My thoughts of a God would be more of a creator of everything rather than a physical ruler so I have a hard time getting my head around that way of thinking. When John writes about tribes and stone tools, I wonder which human period he is remembering, the civilization that predates the pyramids or the civilization that seems to have re-started later.

The topic of our recent past that S&S brought up led me to think of the changes I've seen in my life, particularly the changes in the value of money where the numbers in the past seem strange. I looked up some figures for three periods in my lifetime, when I was born, when I first married, and now in 2018.

Annual income, Hours, Wage, Minimum wage, Adjusted for inflation
1938 - $1,730 - (42) - 0.80 - [ 0.25 ] - 30,524
1958 - $5,300 - (40+) - 2.65 - [ 1.00 ] - 46,430
2018 - $57,000 - (40-) - 28.50 - [ 7.00-10.35 ] - 57,000

Fifty years ago, 1968, I was at the top of my game, I had no worries and I expect to be about that age when presenting myself on the other side of the veil.

Edit showing Annual income adjusted for inflation. But, my point was that younger people react to those amounts in disbelief.
 
I guess I need to 'fess-up here as I don't think I've mentioned it before because the thought/memory is so vague. I recall a scene where I was part of a crew, perhaps the foreman, elevating an obelisk. If the stone was pointed, as in a clock, at 12:00, I was at the 7:00 position - very vague image and I'm not at all certain it was a memory rather than my imagination. No idea of the period, but it was this "vision" and a "knowing" that sound was being used in the process.
 
Hi Ken,

On the "god" front, I have voiced my concerns about what BB and etc. are envisioning. At the best, John seems to foresee some harsh and repressive measures with violence being necessary in order to achieve more "positive outcomes". If this is limited to the area of Egypt, that would be less problematic than a global take-over or domination, but I find that part of things unclear. Ultimately, John seems to anticipate a benign outcome, but what is supposed to happen is definitely a bit hazy to me.

On the wage issue, I'd be curious to have those figures corrected for inflation as well as for real buying power. I don't think the increase is nearly as great as those numbers would seem to indicate.

On your memory, cool! I have been thinking about that memory lately as I began studying and experimenting with binaural beats and other things of this type on youtube, etc. It had occurred to me that it might not be the sound that did the trick, but given the power of certain types of sound to bring the mind to a certain mental state, a sustained sound of just the right type might be used to create a certain mental state in a group of individuals with psychokinetic abilities, such that they could align and harmonize their efforts for a task of this type.

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S, even when I re-read what i'm writing I seem to not include everything I intended. Upon reading it again, I need to clarify something. We were not standing it up, we were raising it up out of where it had been sculpted and were going to transport it - at that is the impression I had. And, what I mean about "transporting" it, I mean that sound was used in that also.

I added the inflation calculations to the wages in my previous post. The thoughts that I had when posting that were in response to the craziness of the thoughts of those naive enough to think that raising the minimum wages or the constant quest of ever increasing wages will benefit a society. Everyone, including me in the past, keeps wanting "more"; it's interesting, I never hear anyone asking for "enough"!
 
Hi Ken,

One of the interesting things that John continues to emphasize is the physical nature of the sun gods. They seem to be somewhere else that is physical. Everything they do is oriented towards the physical (and we should be oriented towards the physical as well). When they manifest somewhere to exercise their power, they seem to be physical. At the end of a long series of posts about how the gods and others can travel vast distances, all I could understand is that it seems like they do so without passage of time "in the light" as spirits and then are born physically via mothers where they want to appear. In prior times they used a form of "control" apparatus based on the ankh symbol which John sketched out. They empowered certain members of the tribes before they left. John seems to think that the imbalance and chaos in the world is caused by unequal sharing of technology, and that the sun gods will return with some type of technology that allows them to dominate and control, and will restore balance for better outcomes by empowering the ancient tribes to re-create ancient Egypt. What you're saying about ancient Egypt levitation techniques seems to indicate a technology that interfaces with matter in ways that we do not understand--or as I think--taps into human potentials in ways that we do not understand. Somehow, I think that all of this indicates a vastly different form of interacting with both the world of spirit and the world of matter that transcends our normal categories and understandings of "technology".

In a way, I am reminded of the Harry Potter universe, where people born with magic powers have their own schools of learning how to utilize that power and their own artifacts related to that power (i.e., specific learning and "technology") that allow them to accomplish incredible things with ease. For their part, they tend to be amazed at the crude arduous machine based "technological" work-arounds that us Muggles come up with to try and do the same things.

Just thinkin'.

Cordially,
S&S
 
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I don't want to hijack John's thread, but I'd like to expound a bit about what I thought and learned about stone and the past. There are remains of obelisks that broke that show "scoop" marks indicating either a technology that we don't understand about hard-stone OR how to soften stone easily. My research turned up a plant that was perhaps more radially available in the past that softened stone. There are reports currently online of a bird that uses a plant (Bolivia/Peru) to soften rock face to soften the stone so that it can peck-out a hole for a nest. Could that plant have more widespread in the past and used to mold/carve/cut stone by past civilizations? It has often made me wonder how the underside of the monolithic slabs were separated from the base. Some ancient quarries show a smooth recessed area where a block was removed leaving me wondering how in the world that was possible. The videos by Brian Foerster are quite good and include sites all over the planet.
 
Hi S&S Thanks for the links.. as always they are very helpful ... when I was reading them a thought came into my mind.. very likely imagination.. but it was one of those things that felt more important than other thoughts...I think you know what I mean... It came to me.. like the Jews are the chosen people of the Christian god ..are the original tribes of the Nile the gods came to ..the chosen people of my gods?
you would imagine they were chosen to come to back then...just a thought and as I said very likely imagination
Ken... very interesting about the stone.. iI will research it.. anything that may be linked to back then interests me

Regards
 
Hi John,

I don't think there is anything too strange about you calling the "original tribes of the Nile" the chosen people of the sun gods. It goes together with, and completely harmonizes with, everything you have said thus far. It also goes together with some of the things I have been talking about in my thread on "Super Groups". Based on what you have said, it could be that the original tribes of the Nile constitute the oldest Super Group currently in existence.

Once again, I do not KNOW that this is correct. But it is certainly consistent with everything you have been saying since you began this thread.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I'd also like to get your thoughts on the things I said in my post #619.
 
Hi S&S.. the following are my comments on your post #619
I have to begin by saying I don't fully understand some of what I talk about...some of it is far to complex for me...... most likely if you were in my position you would have a far better understanding than me
From my point of view what worked for me was.... I was a clean sheet.. I had no knowledge.. no understandings...no education on any of it.. in fact I did not care about reincarnation... the spiritual.. what happens when I die and on and on... So I think we could ask the question ... if it began for you and others when you were in your fifties as I was would you with all of you knowledge ... education and beliefs been able to put all of that aside and believed what had begun was real ?.. maybe it has begun with you and others .. it starts in very small ways ... it was easy for me because I was a clean sheet
You said... they seem to be someplace else that is physical... I have never thought of it in that way... the only answer I had come up with was... that the spiritual maybe another dimension of the physical... But what you said is very possible
Traveling within the light... they most defiantly can do... as I have said ..they came to us the tribes of the Nile from the light of the second sun.. you are right... time as we know it does not exist within the light
You can only travel long distances within the highways of light that are within the universe.... Maybe and its an extremely big maybe ... that's why light is often associated with ufo sightings
Yes ...again you are right...the ankh shaped object around there necks was some form of technology.. from what I remember and also guessing to some extent I think it connected them to there technology.. that is an obvious conclusion I know but it's the only conclusion that makes any sense to me
Yes as I have said before.. there was a sacred ceremony before the god's left and some within the tribes became part of the god's and the god's became part of them ...After the god's left those members of tribes who the god's shared themselves with also became god's... that's how it all started..the physical god's over time evolved into mystical god's ..but were always human if that makes any sense
Yes many peoples from the lands of the original tribes will go to Egypt.. As I said spiritually many of them are still Ancient Egyptian.. Some of them will be given special powers by the gods... just like last time
Not only do the god's have technology they use in the physical.. but yes within the spiritual there is technology... spiritual technology...I sorted this out a long time ago... it was hard work over many meditations... With this as I have talked about before.. during a meditation I go to sleep and wake up on a completely different level.. it doesn't happen very often but at times it does
They must have wanted me to know this .. and that is why I had to go to a much higher level to be told... There are many things I know about spiritual technology but can never share them....the best example I can share with you is reincarnation itself.. Reincarnation happens within the technology of the spiritual.. it is a process.. its technology .... this knowledge is going to be difficult for many to accept... because god is replaced by spiritual technology
Yes you are right... the only way they can return-is to be born again into the spiritual
Yes technology and religion are the causes of most chaos
I hope this is satisfactory

Regards
 
Hi John,

Thanks for taking time to respond on that. Modern materialism and the type of science that grows out of it is stifling understanding and comprehension of a wider universe that includes non-material forces, beings, etc. Once upon a time, humans knew only that a lode stone would point north and that lightning came down from the sky. They did not realize that these isolated phenomena were both the result of electromagnetism, and that these forces could be tamed to give us much of what constitutes modern technology and the modern world. The forces were there, but they were unexplored and used in only the most primitive ways (if at all). Based on the remains of ancient megalithic civilization(s) and the PL memories of many (including you and Ken), it seems evident that there are other forces and principles other than the ones we usually think about that can be used to accomplish wonders as least as great as those we now accomplish with our knowledge of electromagnetism. Knowledge and exploration of these areas are stifled because they violate our current understandings of the material universe (which the current scientific consensus believes is all that exists). This is a shame, and we will and do suffer for it.

BTW--You state "Yes you are right .... the only way they can return-is to be born again into the spiritual" Did you mean to say "physical" in that statement? I don't understand.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--As someone who was a science type with an interest in space travel, I have been aware for a long time of the difficulties of interplanetary travel and especially interstellar travel. I was very interested in the way this was, seemingly, accomplished by the sun gods and their followers, as well as the fact that they considered attempts to travel interstellar distances in the physical to be (if I have understood you correctly) absurd.
 
Hi S&S Yes I made a mistake I meant physical "To travel interstellar distances in the physical is absurd".. is not as straight forward as that statement..As I have said before we will use the light of the sun to go to another dimension so we can enter the light.. so in "this" physical it is absurd to believe we can travel interstellar distances... this dimension will not allow us to do that... in a strange... slow and roundabout way we will slowly outgrow this dimension

Regards
 
Hi John,

I had a sudden thought the other day. We're there female sun gods? I know both gods and goddesses were worshiped in ancient Egypt, but in all of your discussions of the coming of the original sun gods to the tribes, I can't recall anything about females and my general impression is one of males (which you sketched out at one point wearing kilts). Anyhow, just curious.

Likewise, if there were both male and female sun gods then, will there also be male and female born to the mothers on their return? Also, will the ones that come be the same ones who came before, or others of their kind?

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S ...Yes as I'm sure I said at the time there were female sun god's....I have also said that a female from the tribes who was one of those who joined with the god's became the most powerful of all of the god's of those who came from the tribes. who they themselves became gods after joining with the gods....... She was a very powerful god.....They all wore the same clothing... As I have also said chaos reined for a long time as the gods fought each other for control This was a good thing as it laid the foundations to the greatest civilization the world has seen.. This is how it was meant to be
They will all be born to to the same mothers of the gods....They will be the same as last time... they will reincarnate into new physical bodies... they are the only true gods

Regards
 
Hi S&S ...Yes as I'm sure I said at the time there were female sun god's....I have also said that a female from the tribes who was one of those who joined with the god's became the most powerful of all of the god's of those who came from the tribes. who they themselves became gods after joining with the gods....... She was a very powerful god.....They all wore the same clothing... As I have also said chaos reined for a long time as the gods fought each other for control This was a good thing as it laid the foundations to the greatest civilization the world has seen.. This is how it was meant to be
They will all be born to to the same mothers of the gods....They will be the same as last time... they will reincarnate into new physical bodies... they are the only true gods

Regards

Hi John,

I check regularly to see if you have posted anything new. As always, I remain interested in any new experiences or information you have to report. Also, when you're quiet for too long, I begin to be concerned that something might be wrong.

Anyhow, I am looking forward to an update when you get a chance.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S Thanks for your concerns...I have had a few medical problems which are being attended to...There has been plenty going on.. its been a long time since I lasted posted..Something you may be interest in which BB and my source have been communicating about is the reincarnation process itself.. As I have said before it is a process in many ways no different to any other process... eg...Iron ore is processed and it turns into steel. That's how a process works... you begin with something it's processed and you finish up with something different but what you began with is still there ...My source and BB's take on the reincarnation process is very different to what is talked about and believed..There take puts into question about what its claimed happens as you die and are reincarnated.. Its claimed you see long gone relatives and friends and on and on.. Now I question how much of that comes from the imaginations of man and how much are illusions when people have NDE's ... My source and BB claim the reincarnation process has complete control of us.. It has controlled all of us since our time began.. and this is a very bad thing.. They have said to me we are the good guys who from our time in Ancient Egypt learnt skills how not to be controlled completely by the process When you have some controls over the process you have some controls over the outcome of the process.. As I have said before it all begins with the ritual the physical must go through as he goes through the dying process.. He plays a vital role and hands the baton onto his spiritual self ...he then begins going through the reincarnation process
There is plenty more especially about next time but I will get to that later
All The Best
 
Hi John,

Glad to hear from you and glad your medical problems are being tended to! I had long concluded that your source and BB were involved in doing things outside of the normal reincarnation process. So, I am not surprised by that, but I am very interested in what/how/why they are doing that, and why they consider themselves the "good guys". Is the normal reincarnation process evil in some way?

Cordially,
S&S
 
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