9/11 Baby - baby_rn
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Thanks for your continued interest in my son's story...he is now just turned seven and I'm not sure he remembers what he has told me when he was younger...he knows a lot about fires and skyscraper and escape routes but he says he doesn't know how. So he does remember information but has no idea how. He now draws a lot and there is always a picture of new york city. I ask him why he decided to draw about nyc and he says he knows I like them and that he thinks about it a lot. Interesting thing is there is always the empire state building and another smaller building and always a person in an elevator in the middle of the building...don't know if that really means anything but every picture he draws has those two things with different scenery or cars around them. We also have a friend thats a firefighter that talked to my son the day before 9/11 this year and said there were a lot of brave firefighters that day(no other details )...my son said" I know and I Don't want to talk about it! Just lower your flags for respect!" so he may remember more than he shares now I'm not sure. He has a lot of information in his head about different things like the civil war and weapons and I have no idea where this comes from either...very detailed and when I ask him where he learned it he just says..." I just know it.."
Babyrn,
Thanks for the update.
Your son is at the age at which these memories start fading and may seem more like a dream to him. It seems that he has retained some of the knowledge from those lives, and his remark that he "just knows these things" is something I've heard from other kids who had memories too. This information may stay with him for the rest of his life--on some level, but not be as conscious as it was when he was younger.
I wonder what the drawings are about...
Please keep us posted and let us know if anything more comes up.
Thanks for letting us share in your remarkable experience.
Thanks for the update.
Your son is at the age at which these memories start fading and may seem more like a dream to him. It seems that he has retained some of the knowledge from those lives, and his remark that he "just knows these things" is something I've heard from other kids who had memories too. This information may stay with him for the rest of his life--on some level, but not be as conscious as it was when he was younger.
I wonder what the drawings are about...
Please keep us posted and let us know if anything more comes up.
Thanks for letting us share in your remarkable experience.
Carol- thank you for all your help and providing a safe place to discuss this...I can't tell you how much I appreciate it! Yes, the drawings are of interest to me too...he has given me at least ten...All contain empire state building and building with person in elevator...floors labeled up to 14 always too...he just always draws them and gives them specifically to me because he knows i like them he says...but he will also stare out the window before he draws things and then will draw" what he just studied" he says after staring into space for a while. Don't understand it but it is always a picture from history...He is now a "typical" seven year old except for the comments he has sometimes...interesting too...he gets along with kids much older than him and also looks much bigger and older than kids his age. He just turned seven and is in first grade but is the size of the fourth graders or bigger...and in the context of history knows more than me!
thank u for sharing your story
I stumbled upon this site by accident while searching for things relating to kids and the paranormal. I listened to a radio show with Carol and she talked about your story. I felt compelled to check it out and was immediately fascinated by it. I started reading your posts and just had to keep reading until your last post. I have never heard of this happening before and honestly was never drawn to past life stuff before this time. Your story about your son has just changed my whole outlook on the subject and now I wish to study it. I wanted to tell you that your story just touched me even though I have never experienced it. I really don't know why it touched me so. Maybe I was meant to discover this info for a reason but only time will tell. Thank you so much for sharing it and posting updates. It is just fascinating. I think your son in his own way has touched a lot of people deeply in a profound way. I hope to hear of any new updates that come up relating to his experience. Too bad your husband can not share in this joy that your son has brought us all on this forum. I pray that he becomes more open to the unknown.
april
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#G^H
I stumbled upon this site by accident while searching for things relating to kids and the paranormal. I listened to a radio show with Carol and she talked about your story. I felt compelled to check it out and was immediately fascinated by it. I started reading your posts and just had to keep reading until your last post. I have never heard of this happening before and honestly was never drawn to past life stuff before this time. Your story about your son has just changed my whole outlook on the subject and now I wish to study it. I wanted to tell you that your story just touched me even though I have never experienced it. I really don't know why it touched me so. Maybe I was meant to discover this info for a reason but only time will tell. Thank you so much for sharing it and posting updates. It is just fascinating. I think your son in his own way has touched a lot of people deeply in a profound way. I hope to hear of any new updates that come up relating to his experience. Too bad your husband can not share in this joy that your son has brought us all on this forum. I pray that he becomes more open to the unknown.
april
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#G^H
baby rn:
I find your story of your Son very fascinating, I only joined the Forum back in 2010, but I have read all of your posts relating to him, and as a retired Fire Department person of 32 years, I can certainly relate to his many memories and his understanding of equipment, procedures and techniques.
His memories ring true to me and make me believe that he is genuinely recalling memories based in a past life as a former firefighter!
I find your story of your Son very fascinating, I only joined the Forum back in 2010, but I have read all of your posts relating to him, and as a retired Fire Department person of 32 years, I can certainly relate to his many memories and his understanding of equipment, procedures and techniques.
His memories ring true to me and make me believe that he is genuinely recalling memories based in a past life as a former firefighter!
Charles Stuart
Senior Registered
Baby rn, despite there currently being no means of proving the such, we can base ourselves on testimonials such as your son's and so many others to assure us, without any shadow of a doubt, that there is much more to life than just the one physical existence.
How each "Individual Consciousness" can sustain its individuality and be eternal and live many lives will apparently still remain a mystery to science for quite some time, but this in no way can be held as argumentation against the reality of evidences such as your son has provided us, in which we can perceive that even after such tragic events as the one of 9/11, physical death is nothing but a mere transition, and that there is infinitely more to life than just the shallow and narrow understanding that some seem to wish to make of it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your son's story with all of us.
Charles
How each "Individual Consciousness" can sustain its individuality and be eternal and live many lives will apparently still remain a mystery to science for quite some time, but this in no way can be held as argumentation against the reality of evidences such as your son has provided us, in which we can perceive that even after such tragic events as the one of 9/11, physical death is nothing but a mere transition, and that there is infinitely more to life than just the shallow and narrow understanding that some seem to wish to make of it.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your son's story with all of us.
Charles
Welcome, agear !
Babyrn's story really is fascinating, and we are glad you want to study more on reincarnation. A good start would be Carol's books. Did you read them already? The first chapter of Children's past lives is available here.
We are looking forward to read your experiences and questions that you want to share. This forum holds a lot of information regarding reincarnation. I hope you enjoy being a part of our community.
Eevee
Babyrn's story really is fascinating, and we are glad you want to study more on reincarnation. A good start would be Carol's books. Did you read them already? The first chapter of Children's past lives is available here.
We are looking forward to read your experiences and questions that you want to share. This forum holds a lot of information regarding reincarnation. I hope you enjoy being a part of our community.
Eevee
Thanks for the interest in my son's story...it has made me see the world in a different light! This may not have to do with past lives but kinda out there comment my son made the other day. I was driving him, my daughter and a friend home from school and the y were playing in the back seat. Somehow, my daughter said "i'm dead" to her friend and pretended to play dead and her friend was pretending to try to help her(just silly kid game)...my son got upset at my daughter and said "you are not dead ....you don't even know what dead people look like. I do...I have seen a lot of them in my lifetime and it definitely doesn't look like that!...I just turned around and looked at him and he said,"What? I have!" then he changed the subject and the game...Anyone have any thought on this...It was the same kind of serious voice and that is why I noticed it...
Babyrn,
I think your son was just making a literal statement. He knew what dead bodies looked like. After everything that he has said, and appears to remember, this comment makes sense.
We are so glad that you've been able to share these profound moments with us. As you can see, your contributions have affected all of us.
Thanks again.
I think your son was just making a literal statement. He knew what dead bodies looked like. After everything that he has said, and appears to remember, this comment makes sense.
We are so glad that you've been able to share these profound moments with us. As you can see, your contributions have affected all of us.
Thanks again.
Shine
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makes sense!
I had to go back and check your first post to make sure your son's story was the one I thought it was! I was confused that you didn't seem to understand why he said this - As a fireman in that situation he would have seen a lot of dead people I would have thought (especially that day), very traumatic and not surprising it has stuck with him. It makes perfect sense to me that his sister's seemingly flippant remark would trigger his memory.
I had to go back and check your first post to make sure your son's story was the one I thought it was! I was confused that you didn't seem to understand why he said this - As a fireman in that situation he would have seen a lot of dead people I would have thought (especially that day), very traumatic and not surprising it has stuck with him. It makes perfect sense to me that his sister's seemingly flippant remark would trigger his memory.
BabyRN:
More and more, I am amazed at your Son, and in spite of the horror he endured in a Past Life (PL), he sounds like a well adjusted, intelligent young man who is handling the PL trauma well!
His remark about seeing dead bodies makes perfect sense to me too.
I can only begin to even imagine the events on that day, being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of dead and dying people, and feeling powerless to really do anything for them!
More and more, I am amazed at your Son, and in spite of the horror he endured in a Past Life (PL), he sounds like a well adjusted, intelligent young man who is handling the PL trauma well!
His remark about seeing dead bodies makes perfect sense to me too.
I can only begin to even imagine the events on that day, being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of dead and dying people, and feeling powerless to really do anything for them!
I guess I didn't put it in the right context...Yes... it does make sense but I think it took me off guard because he has not talked about it for a while and never information like that without a reference to some kind of firefighting fact. I don't know.. I guess it came out in a different way than it used too. Sorry...now I read it again, (its sounds kind of silly the way I wrote it) I do know where it came from but it is the first time he made a comment like that with out first starting to talk about something with firefighters...so different for me...
LaJollaGirl101
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Baby M
I have always been interested in reincarnation. Baby M your story caught my attention. After reading a few of your facts I did a little research on some possibilities. As for your number 343...that's how many firefighters were killed on September 11th
I also found this man Durrell V Pearsall, 34 - Rescue 4 here is a link to read about him. Durrell would make visits to Ireland. He had received 2 medals for heroism and so on. I would love to help you figure this all out. This is all fascinating to me =) Reincarnation is real. I like to think of us as hermit crabs. Our bodies are our shell and when we outlive, outgrow or break our shell we move to a new, bigger and better shell.
http://longisland.newsday.com/911-anniversary/victims/Durrell-PearsallJr
I have always been interested in reincarnation. Baby M your story caught my attention. After reading a few of your facts I did a little research on some possibilities. As for your number 343...that's how many firefighters were killed on September 11th
I also found this man Durrell V Pearsall, 34 - Rescue 4 here is a link to read about him. Durrell would make visits to Ireland. He had received 2 medals for heroism and so on. I would love to help you figure this all out. This is all fascinating to me =) Reincarnation is real. I like to think of us as hermit crabs. Our bodies are our shell and when we outlive, outgrow or break our shell we move to a new, bigger and better shell.
http://longisland.newsday.com/911-anniversary/victims/Durrell-PearsallJr
Reincarnation question, My son was born 9/12/01
I too am looking on line for information about reincarnation. It makes me nervous to talk about this, but as we approach the 10th anniversary of 9/11, I would love to get opinions on whether people think my son could possibly be reincarnated from someone who lost their life in the twin towers. I don't know if it means anything, but my son was born on 9/12/01 at 1:50pm. His birth was traumatic. He was a placenta abruption and he was not breathing when he was taken by emergency c-section. When he was 15 months old, he woke up one night hysterical crying (this was very out of character, his nickname was mellowman). He was pointing and screaming, "Fireman, fireman, fireman." I kept asking him where the fireman was and he just kept pointing in his room. After that, whenever he lost a toy, he would say, "I bet the fireman took it." When he was two, he told me that he died. He would keep repeating, "Mommy, i went whoaaaa (as if he was falling) and I died." He would tell everyone he talked to. I finally asked him what it meant to die (since he was just two and we never discussed death with him, he was too young to play video games, etc.) Anyways, when I asked him what it meant to die, he just stared at me and said, " I don't know but I know I died." Then when he was five years old, he fell asleep on our couch one afternoon. When he woke up, he told me that he fell out of a tower. I asked him if that was what he just dreamt about and he said, "No, it wasn't a dream. A long time ago, I fell out of a tower." I explained to him that he was just sleeping and therefore I thought maybe he just had a dream about falling out of a tower. Again, he said it happened a long time ago. He referred back to the tower another time when we were in an attorney's office and he saw a picture of a castle with a tower (it was not a picture of the twin towers). He said, "Mommy, that looks like the tower that I fell out of." When I asked if it was the same tower in his dream, he got very angry and yelled back, "Mommy, I told you it wasn't a dream, It happened a long time ago!!" We call my son an old soul, because he truly is wise beyond his years. There was another time that he was riding his bike in our driveway and he came inside and announced that he had just seen God. He was very matter of fact about it. He told me that he saw God in the puddle in our driveway. When I asked him how he knew it was God, again, he just looked at me very matter fact and said, "I just know it was God." My son will be ten years old on Monday. He is a beautiful gift. There is a part of me that wonders if he could possibly be from 9/11. Could someone else's life have ended as his began? I have never read anything about reincarnation, but I wanted to share my story with you. Again, I would love feedback. Thanks so much.
I too am looking on line for information about reincarnation. It makes me nervous to talk about this, but as we approach the 10th anniversary of 9/11, I would love to get opinions on whether people think my son could possibly be reincarnated from someone who lost their life in the twin towers. I don't know if it means anything, but my son was born on 9/12/01 at 1:50pm. His birth was traumatic. He was a placenta abruption and he was not breathing when he was taken by emergency c-section. When he was 15 months old, he woke up one night hysterical crying (this was very out of character, his nickname was mellowman). He was pointing and screaming, "Fireman, fireman, fireman." I kept asking him where the fireman was and he just kept pointing in his room. After that, whenever he lost a toy, he would say, "I bet the fireman took it." When he was two, he told me that he died. He would keep repeating, "Mommy, i went whoaaaa (as if he was falling) and I died." He would tell everyone he talked to. I finally asked him what it meant to die (since he was just two and we never discussed death with him, he was too young to play video games, etc.) Anyways, when I asked him what it meant to die, he just stared at me and said, " I don't know but I know I died." Then when he was five years old, he fell asleep on our couch one afternoon. When he woke up, he told me that he fell out of a tower. I asked him if that was what he just dreamt about and he said, "No, it wasn't a dream. A long time ago, I fell out of a tower." I explained to him that he was just sleeping and therefore I thought maybe he just had a dream about falling out of a tower. Again, he said it happened a long time ago. He referred back to the tower another time when we were in an attorney's office and he saw a picture of a castle with a tower (it was not a picture of the twin towers). He said, "Mommy, that looks like the tower that I fell out of." When I asked if it was the same tower in his dream, he got very angry and yelled back, "Mommy, I told you it wasn't a dream, It happened a long time ago!!" We call my son an old soul, because he truly is wise beyond his years. There was another time that he was riding his bike in our driveway and he came inside and announced that he had just seen God. He was very matter of fact about it. He told me that he saw God in the puddle in our driveway. When I asked him how he knew it was God, again, he just looked at me very matter fact and said, "I just know it was God." My son will be ten years old on Monday. He is a beautiful gift. There is a part of me that wonders if he could possibly be from 9/11. Could someone else's life have ended as his began? I have never read anything about reincarnation, but I wanted to share my story with you. Again, I would love feedback. Thanks so much.
A Past Life cut short.
The incidents that you describe taken individually “might” indicate a Past Life (PL), but taken together as sum total, IMHO, I am convinced of a PL based on the quantity AND quality of the stated incidents.
It is common knowledge amongst most believers of Reincarnation, that very traumatic deaths possibly cause a rapid re-birth in subsequent lives.
The rapid return to a body was probably the result of a very traumatic death where he tried to help people, but was prevented from doing so.
Imagine the emotions present as the rescuer becomes a victim too, emotions of helplessness, anger, sadness, fright, to name just a few.
Any one of these emotions could have set the stage for returning quickly to a physical body.
It is possible that these memories your Son was having as a younger child have already started to fade and he will continue to grow up a well balanced young man.
Best wishes to you and your Son!
The incidents that you describe taken individually “might” indicate a Past Life (PL), but taken together as sum total, IMHO, I am convinced of a PL based on the quantity AND quality of the stated incidents.
It is common knowledge amongst most believers of Reincarnation, that very traumatic deaths possibly cause a rapid re-birth in subsequent lives.
The rapid return to a body was probably the result of a very traumatic death where he tried to help people, but was prevented from doing so.
Imagine the emotions present as the rescuer becomes a victim too, emotions of helplessness, anger, sadness, fright, to name just a few.
Any one of these emotions could have set the stage for returning quickly to a physical body.
It is possible that these memories your Son was having as a younger child have already started to fade and he will continue to grow up a well balanced young man.
Best wishes to you and your Son!
Hydrolad,
Thank you so much for your response and good wishes. I am very happy I found this site and very eager to learn more about reincarnation.
Jody,
Thanks for your response. My son is just starting to ask questions about 9/11 as I have not exposed him to too much imagery. He is now in 5th grade and has learned more about it in school. I am waiting to see if it triggers any questions or comments. He just told me that he feels bad that the world was so sad when he was born. I explained that it was a sad time but his birth brought us great joy.
Baby RN,
Your story is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you so much for your response and good wishes. I am very happy I found this site and very eager to learn more about reincarnation.
Jody,
Thanks for your response. My son is just starting to ask questions about 9/11 as I have not exposed him to too much imagery. He is now in 5th grade and has learned more about it in school. I am waiting to see if it triggers any questions or comments. He just told me that he feels bad that the world was so sad when he was born. I explained that it was a sad time but his birth brought us great joy.
Baby RN,
Your story is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
Josie, I hope you do not mind me asking something out of curiosity: Your son was born on 12th september, 2001, just one day after the incident. You had been pregnant for more or less nine months...I have a child myself and I felt the bond betweeen us from the beginning of my pregnancy, as you probably experienced as well. How do you make sense of this? Do you consider the fetus as not having a soul? Or do you think he had a "different" soul and then might have been "kicked out" by the soul of the newly deceased fireman`s soul? I know there are a lot of experiences where the interval is much less then nine months but I am curious how the people involved make sense of it...
Hi Iris,
You have asked some great questions and I would love to hear some responses from the experts. You raise an interesting question, was the soul created at conception? If so, how can my son be from 9/11?
If he is, I don't necessarily know if he is a deceased fireman. When he was 15 months, he feared "the fireman." Then when he was five, he said he fell out of a tower. One other thing I forgot to mention, if we make a fire in our family room fireplace, he does not like it at all. I explain that it is fun to sit together as a family, with a fire going and watch football. He asks me to go in another room with him, because "the fire hurts." He says it hurts his face. I forgot to write about that in my original post.
You have asked some great questions and I would love to hear some responses from the experts. You raise an interesting question, was the soul created at conception? If so, how can my son be from 9/11?
If he is, I don't necessarily know if he is a deceased fireman. When he was 15 months, he feared "the fireman." Then when he was five, he said he fell out of a tower. One other thing I forgot to mention, if we make a fire in our family room fireplace, he does not like it at all. I explain that it is fun to sit together as a family, with a fire going and watch football. He asks me to go in another room with him, because "the fire hurts." He says it hurts his face. I forgot to write about that in my original post.
Josie,
Just conjecture here, but I'm wondering if he was scared of "the fireman" because that was the last thing he saw before he died (as the fireman was trying to save him- and many, like baby_rn's son, regret not being able to do so). Maybe the fire was hurting him so badly that he felt he had no choice but to jump.
As for when souls enter the body- according to Michael Newton, anyway, it's up to the soul whether to enter anywhere from 3-4 months (any earlier than that is rare, but can happen) up to right before birth.
Just conjecture here, but I'm wondering if he was scared of "the fireman" because that was the last thing he saw before he died (as the fireman was trying to save him- and many, like baby_rn's son, regret not being able to do so). Maybe the fire was hurting him so badly that he felt he had no choice but to jump.
As for when souls enter the body- according to Michael Newton, anyway, it's up to the soul whether to enter anywhere from 3-4 months (any earlier than that is rare, but can happen) up to right before birth.
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Diana
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baby rn
When my son was three he had a speech impediment making him very difficult to understand. One day he came to me and demanded my attention. He insistead that I kneel down in front of him as he grabbed my hand. In the clearest voice he began to tell me how important it was for me to pay attention to what he was saying. He begain to tell me, "Mama I chose you and daddy to be my parents. I circled around watching you. I chose you because you were such nice people. I love you mama!"
I'm sharing this with you because you mentioned your son asking you "did you know when you die you pick a belly and go back into it?"
I wish you the best with your soons past life recollection.
When my son was three he had a speech impediment making him very difficult to understand. One day he came to me and demanded my attention. He insistead that I kneel down in front of him as he grabbed my hand. In the clearest voice he began to tell me how important it was for me to pay attention to what he was saying. He begain to tell me, "Mama I chose you and daddy to be my parents. I circled around watching you. I chose you because you were such nice people. I love you mama!"
I'm sharing this with you because you mentioned your son asking you "did you know when you die you pick a belly and go back into it?"
I wish you the best with your soons past life recollection.
Nightrain
Senior Registered
Hi Diana! And a warm welcome to the Forum!diana kessler said:
The incident with your son is what keeps us nailed to our computer screens in hopes of hearing more. Your post deserves its own thread, and we hope to hear more from you—not only regarding your son, but about what you are learning from the experience.
Also, I would encourage you to choose a user name that would give you more anonymity. If you do wish to make a change, please let one of the Administrators or Moderators know, OK? If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
Best wishes!
HUMMINGBIRD1113
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the number 343...re:9/11
Stars3, if you are reading this could you clarify this for us? Thank you.
Hi baby rn, I was reading another 9/11 case and the numbers 343 came up. It was posted by Stars3, who has written you before so maybe he didn't put this together, but this is what he posted on someone else's 9/11 story...baby rn said:
So baby rn I am wondering if this is the number of fire fighters that we lost on 9/11...Maybe you could contact Stars3 and see if this is true. It might make sense why this number resonates with your son. Just a thought, but it sure stood out to me when I read it on the other 9/11 story. Hope it helps!Stars3 said:
Stars3, if you are reading this could you clarify this for us? Thank you.
I retired from a local FD due to illness after 32 years of service and yes, 343 is the number of FDNY personnel that lost their lives on 9-11.
I was in the Comm Center when it first started and they had the TV on the news channel, at first, when the first plane hit the building, I figured it was a mechanical problem or pilot error.
When the second plane hit, I knew something was up, then the planes went down in Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon and it got even worse, the uncertainty of whether it would get worse than it already was.
The Coast Guard Reserve was holding training classes in the building and I pulled the ranking officer aside and said I have something to show you, I took him into another room and showed him a TV, in no time, his group had cancelled training and exited the premises.
Our department had a man who lost a blood Brother in 9-11, he worked for FDNY, I say blood because in the Fire Service, we are ALL Brothers, we are like swords tempered in the fire, to be made stronger to face even more dangers.
The Fire Services is like a family, you spend 24 hours every 3rd day with them, it makes for a bond that grows with time, sorry for the long post, I get rather long winded when I remember 9-11.
I was in the Comm Center when it first started and they had the TV on the news channel, at first, when the first plane hit the building, I figured it was a mechanical problem or pilot error.
When the second plane hit, I knew something was up, then the planes went down in Pennsylvania and at the Pentagon and it got even worse, the uncertainty of whether it would get worse than it already was.
The Coast Guard Reserve was holding training classes in the building and I pulled the ranking officer aside and said I have something to show you, I took him into another room and showed him a TV, in no time, his group had cancelled training and exited the premises.
Our department had a man who lost a blood Brother in 9-11, he worked for FDNY, I say blood because in the Fire Service, we are ALL Brothers, we are like swords tempered in the fire, to be made stronger to face even more dangers.
The Fire Services is like a family, you spend 24 hours every 3rd day with them, it makes for a bond that grows with time, sorry for the long post, I get rather long winded when I remember 9-11.
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