There and back again
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Couldn't have said it better, life is pain.
Couldn't have said it better, life is pain.
Angie Brown
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Ah, so you cannt agree to differ, and therefore hate any thoughts that do. I have never been so blunt with anyone here before, but that is plain narcisstic. Go ahead and despise that I do not agree with you. It can eat you up. As for me, i'm moving on from bothering with replying to you anymore. You are rude.
I wonder ... do you know who build the pyramids, and why?
John Tat
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Pyramids did not magically appear ... they evolved into what you see over thousands of years.. They began as small mounds of dirt left on the ground on top of who was buried .., Then small structures were built over the tombs to protect them from grave robbers and foraging animals As time went by those structures began grow in size to symbolize the importance of who was buried much the same as graves are today.. over thousands oy years the importance of these structures grew and grew and the mighty Pharaohs saw them as monuments to themselves that would last forever..,. As this evolved the shape,size, location and other things began to become very important.. In the end what you had was monument to the pharaoh god that was built in such a way that it connected him to the sun gods who came to the tribes of the Nile... The way the pyramids are constructed the rays of the sun at certain times hits the top of the pyramid and by the shape of the pyramid do not loose there angle as the reach the earth and engulf the pyramid connecting the Pharaoh god to the sun gods.. The Egyptians built the pyramids
Angie Brown
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I have learned that when I have had what seems to be insurmountable difficulty remembering a thing, there is a point where to keep trying is self defeating. It is then that, when I have decided to give up then at some near - or sometimes not so near - point in the future that whatever it is sometimes comes to me. I have found this not only with regards to pl's but life in general this time.
I think the pressure of repeatedly trying too hard can in itself create a mental block.
If I give up and 'forget' about it then weeks, months or years later remember that I was trying to recollect the full memory of something, and it still hasn't come to me, then I know that it wasn't as important to me as I had thought it to be, because if it had been then it would have 'got through' while my mind was relaxed and not stressed with such efforts to remember.
Also, I have found that concentrating so much trying to remember one thing, or even a few things that are elusively 'there' yet not quite visible, can block me from remembering other things that matter. I mean, if our minds are so full of one thing, it limits space for other things.
This might or might not be what other people experience, so just a thought that what could work best might be to take a rest from trying to recollect things and let your mind work only in the here and now, in everyday life, for a while. Take a breather, a rest, and see if anything transpires when your thoughts are off it and you least expect it
One example which happened to me recently, was in trying to find something which I had stored 'in a safe place'. I looked for it for about two days, on and off. Eventually I had to simply express my wish to find the item - but to stop actually looking for it. On about the third day I asked, out loud, where is such-and-such. As I spoke those words my eyes were firmly directed at a particular point in the room. I checked there and immediately found it.
I don't know whether this is directly applicable to past-life recall or research, but it may well be.
Angie Brown
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I am sure it is exactly the same principle
Or ... [to find something you lost] turn over a glass, or a cup! I've seen it working. Why? I guess you're sending a message to your subconscious.
A quick search gave this description of the procedure.
A quick search gave this description of the procedure.
KenJ
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Just to add some perspective to the subject of pyramids and antiquity.
Bosnia pyramids https://www.ancient-origins.net/anc...hors/world-history-and-bosnian-pyramids-00220
The Giza pyramids were built much earlier than the dynastic period in Egypt, possibly during the period of time when the larger ones in Bosnia were built - before our current human cycle here on Earth. Placing things along a time-line creates a different picture of such things!
Angie Brown
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Thank you. I shall try that when I next mislay the remote, keys, phone, dentures (lol). Or my brain?
John Tat
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The.. Egyptians built the pyramids .. The proof of that is well documented... The most significant proof is... by testing the stone used to build the pyramids they know exactly which quarries the stone came from and approximately when it was mined ... which was most certainly not in other time on earth
KenJ
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I think that it would be safe to say that Egypt did not exist at the time of the creation of the pyramids, no Idea what they called themselves, but their culture was so much earlier than the Pharaohs that you talked about that it would make it impossible to conclude that it was the same culture. It would be like calling the mound-building Hopewell culture Ohioans or Americans.
There and back again
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One can go there themselves and can clearly see the build quality is vastly different from the Giza pyramids vs the later imitations, Egypt inherited some remnants of a much older civilization that was more advanced than even our current one. The academia has agendas which is why history around the world is so heavily suppressed and to go against the mainstream only stirs up the minions and ankle biters.
I suggest you ask your source (BB) about who and when built the pyramids.
John Tat
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Baro-san On the thread recieving information from a source I have talked numerous times about BB witnessing the building of the pyramids In one post I even posted a drawing of an instrument they used while building them During a meditation I only got a quick glimpse of the instrument as it was being used so the drawing was far from accurate but it did give a rough but a good idea of what it looked like I will try and find I would never have thrown it away if and when I find it I will post it on this thread
SeaAndSky
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Hi All,
I think the question of "who" built the pyramids and whether it was the Egyptians is fairly complex. First, don't get too attached to the name. "Egypt" has been known by many names by its inhabitants and is now known by its inhabitants by another name. Check out these two sites:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/kmt.htm
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-did-ancient-egyptians-call-egypt-118072
Second, is there cultural continuity from the time of the most ancient "Egyptians"? No. Obviously, the ability to do megalithic construction at the level of the most ancient inhabitants was lost fairly early. So, whatever knowledge that represents had waned, though many religious beliefs and practices persisted, even in ancient times. There were also waves of conquerors B.C., though I don't know how much these folks affected beliefs in the countryside B.C. However, according to John Tat, there were very significant shifts in the nature of belief and worship well before B.C. became A.D. By his report, John gave up his position as a priest of the "sun gods" and was lost for millennia from his cohorts and his beliefs because even at a very early period the true knowledge and worship of the "gods" was being lost or subverted. It appears, however, that some version of the religion of the land persisted through the Greco-Roman era and only began to die out with the conversion of the land to Christianity and later was wiped out totally after the onset of Islam. So, IMO, culturally there seems to be very little left of any original legacy culture, though I am sure the usual fragments (old cooking recipes, superstitions, etc. persist in some areas). Some claim that the Coptic language is the language that existed B.C., but language shifts over time, so even if true it would be much changed.
Third, are the people the same? Well, they haven't been completely displaced like the mound builders in Ohio--at least by most reports. However, this is a complex area with a lot of arguments and ambiguities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt
However, taking it to the next level, are the same entities (spirits/souls) inhabiting these folks now that did so millennia ago? This has been an area of interest to me, as there is a strong current in Orthodox Judaism favoring the "general" continuation of Jewish souls/spirits as Jews (with apparently occasional departures from this rule) since ancient times. It also is an article of belief among some other cultures. I started a thread on this idea a while back with "super groups" or something like that in the title. So, the subject has been discussed a bit, but unlike the Jews, there is no continuity of the culture/religion of ancient Egypt to bind such souls/spirits together. Plus, the evidence for such super groups is very spotty for most nationalities/ethnicities.
HOWEVER, the REAL NEWS according to John is that the "sun gods" are returning (if I understand him) during BB's next incarnation, that they are going to be bringing a lot of ancient souls with them (I think) including BB (under a different name), and that they will be restoring ancient Egypt in many respects. I don't expect this to happen myself without extreme violence, especially if Islam is still on the scene, but that could just be me. Anyhow, if John is right and we're in the flesh again at that time, we should definitely be in for some surprises--and answers to many questions.
Cordially,
S&S
I think the question of "who" built the pyramids and whether it was the Egyptians is fairly complex. First, don't get too attached to the name. "Egypt" has been known by many names by its inhabitants and is now known by its inhabitants by another name. Check out these two sites:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/kmt.htm
https://www.thoughtco.com/what-did-ancient-egyptians-call-egypt-118072
Second, is there cultural continuity from the time of the most ancient "Egyptians"? No. Obviously, the ability to do megalithic construction at the level of the most ancient inhabitants was lost fairly early. So, whatever knowledge that represents had waned, though many religious beliefs and practices persisted, even in ancient times. There were also waves of conquerors B.C., though I don't know how much these folks affected beliefs in the countryside B.C. However, according to John Tat, there were very significant shifts in the nature of belief and worship well before B.C. became A.D. By his report, John gave up his position as a priest of the "sun gods" and was lost for millennia from his cohorts and his beliefs because even at a very early period the true knowledge and worship of the "gods" was being lost or subverted. It appears, however, that some version of the religion of the land persisted through the Greco-Roman era and only began to die out with the conversion of the land to Christianity and later was wiped out totally after the onset of Islam. So, IMO, culturally there seems to be very little left of any original legacy culture, though I am sure the usual fragments (old cooking recipes, superstitions, etc. persist in some areas). Some claim that the Coptic language is the language that existed B.C., but language shifts over time, so even if true it would be much changed.
Third, are the people the same? Well, they haven't been completely displaced like the mound builders in Ohio--at least by most reports. However, this is a complex area with a lot of arguments and ambiguities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_history_of_Egypt
However, taking it to the next level, are the same entities (spirits/souls) inhabiting these folks now that did so millennia ago? This has been an area of interest to me, as there is a strong current in Orthodox Judaism favoring the "general" continuation of Jewish souls/spirits as Jews (with apparently occasional departures from this rule) since ancient times. It also is an article of belief among some other cultures. I started a thread on this idea a while back with "super groups" or something like that in the title. So, the subject has been discussed a bit, but unlike the Jews, there is no continuity of the culture/religion of ancient Egypt to bind such souls/spirits together. Plus, the evidence for such super groups is very spotty for most nationalities/ethnicities.
HOWEVER, the REAL NEWS according to John is that the "sun gods" are returning (if I understand him) during BB's next incarnation, that they are going to be bringing a lot of ancient souls with them (I think) including BB (under a different name), and that they will be restoring ancient Egypt in many respects. I don't expect this to happen myself without extreme violence, especially if Islam is still on the scene, but that could just be me. Anyhow, if John is right and we're in the flesh again at that time, we should definitely be in for some surprises--and answers to many questions.
Cordially,
S&S
John Tat
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Another good post from S&S... He is very good at bringing an even dialog to an issue I"m searching for my drawing of the instrument I talked about.. As I did I realized I never posted it.. I think at the time I thought it was along with many other things it was something I should not share.. But I will keep looking and when I find it I will post it.. I have 26 boxes of notes and drawings that have come from my meditations with BB and my source..BB was there when the pyramids were being built.. In some of his/my memories I have seen the very beginning of construction .It's weird to see a pyramid say 25% completed .. Just walls with a big hole in the middle as construction continues.. From what I saw not all of the construction was being done on the outside... there appeared to be plenty activity inside the structure.. as most times I did and do not fully understand what is going on.. As I have said on other threads the memories are the memories of BB my spiritual self not the memories of the physical entity who was there As I have also said our spiritual self records memories in real time.. I suppose that is obvious but to see them puts a whole different perspective on them.. You know when they are real because you can smell they are real..You smell the smells that were there at the time and you can taste the tastes of what you consume.. just as I tasted the blood and sweat as I licked the blood of my enemies and my sweat from my arm after a battle As I said I was covered in the blood of my enemies and the mixing of my sweat and the blood of my enemies was beautiful smell I point this out because the memories of the pyramids are just as vivid... I wish I had the ability to take a section of a DVD and post it on the forum.. Several years ago a was watching the movie Young Guns II.. Its about an old guy who claimed he as Billy The Kid in the early 1950's Around 10 minutes into the movie the guy asked him did he have any proof of who he was claiming to be.. The camera went slowly up to the old guys eyes then a memory bust into real life.. It sent a chill down my spine because that is how it happens when I get a real time memory from BB while I'm meditating.. The memories only lasts around the same time as the memory did in the movie.. It was the eyes of the old guy that reminded me of my meditations.. then when the memory exploded as I said it sent a chill down my spine.. These visual memories overall are just a small portion of how I receive memories.. most are the traditional way
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Thanks John. That post reminded me of the importance of smell in past life recall. I first noticed the powerful effect of smell in relation to this current life. A smell can evoke a time and place very precisely.
Much later I found the sense of smell was taking me to a time and place where I'd never been, at least in this lifetime. I had a mental picture which was maybe not specific to a single place, but certainly a narrow category, a type of location which in the present century may be rare or no longer in existence.
There are more specific details which I'm not sharing - it just seems too soon. If what I recall was more distant I'd probably be more willing to be open about everything.
Much later I found the sense of smell was taking me to a time and place where I'd never been, at least in this lifetime. I had a mental picture which was maybe not specific to a single place, but certainly a narrow category, a type of location which in the present century may be rare or no longer in existence.
There are more specific details which I'm not sharing - it just seems too soon. If what I recall was more distant I'd probably be more willing to be open about everything.
Ophelia3
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I mean, through archaeology and chronology we are fairly certain who built the pyramids, it wasn't dedicated to just one individual person and as for why, as a tomb? Or do you mean to ask why we're pyramids chosen as the burial place?
If I was ancient Egyptian in my past life it would've been much after the construction of the pyramids, at a time where nobody really discussed who and why they were built...
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
Ophelia3
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I have learned that when I have had what seems to be insurmountable difficulty remembering a thing, there is a point where to keep trying is self defeating. It is then that, when I have decided to give up then at some near - or sometimes not so near - point in the future that whatever it is sometimes comes to me. I have found this not only with regards to pl's but life in general this time.
I think the pressure of repeatedly trying too hard can in itself create a mental block.
If I give up and 'forget' about it then weeks, months or years later remember that I was trying to recollect the full memory of something, and it still hasn't come to me, then I know that it wasn't as important to me as I had thought it to be, because if it had been then it would have 'got through' while my mind was relaxed and not stressed with such efforts to remember.
Also, I have found that concentrating so much trying to remember one thing, or even a few things that are elusively 'there' yet not quite visible, can block me from remembering other things that matter. I mean, if our minds are so full of one thing, it limits space for other things.
This might or might not be what other people experience, so just a thought that what could work best might be to take a rest from trying to recollect things and let your mind work only in the here and now, in everyday life, for a while. Take a breather, a rest, and see if anything transpires when your thoughts are off it and you least expect it
I understand what you're saying, only issue with that is, is that I actually took a hiatus from attempting to recollect any past life memories for a good few years. I've only reconsidered it now, after I experienced a sudden yearning for ancient Egypt, which has reoccurred throughout my life.
Ophelia3
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Another conspiracy theorists.
Evidence; archaeological, geological and chronological, place the Pyramids at about 5000 BCE. Khufu, Khafrae and Menkaure. They have inscriptions verifying that these Pharaoh's had these Pyramids built for them! Like already said above, they know where they mined the stone from!
Stop with your conspiracies! It's hurting my head. What next? Aliens?
So, basically, you don't know. You just believe what some "scientists" claimed. That is an important difference.
Obviously, none of us could function if we didn't rely on others' discoveries, work, assumptions. But, when we discuss on a reincarnation forum about past lives, we should leave room for some doubt on most other things currently claimed by "scientists".
If one "lived" in the Ancient Egypt, they could bring a different claim about whatever historians claim. Historical "evidence" is always packaged in assumptions, that bring distortions.
I have big reservations to most conspiracies I read of, but you know ... one's conspiracy is another's truth, and truth is determined neither by majority, nor by those who have the position / power to claim it.
I believe that consciousness' evolvement progresses through instincts, emotions, intellect, and intuition. In this human phase, we mostly mastered instincts, we're dominated by emotions, started to develop our intellect, and are still almost oblivious to intuition.
Whatever one gets directly through their experiences with altered states of consciousness is as likely to be accurate as what "scientists" claim.
By the way, you know that science changes in time, and whatever is written in stone today, may be trash tomorrow.
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John Tat
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I have found the drawing of the instrument and will post it when I can write a sensible account of what I saw ... People talk about the truth... there is no such thing as the truth.. there are only facts.. Truths are individual perceptions of facts... the more sensible the perception is the more who accept that perception as the truth.. Any perception that the pyramids were built in another time on earth are not backed by any facts at all.. its even worse than the perception of the truth based on facts... its pure speculation.. A fact is a fact ...It's a fact you are reading this post... nobody can dispute that.. Once people begin to speculate why you are reading this post it becomes a perception of the truth based on a fact... I ask what is more believable.. science fiction speculations about when the pyramids were built or are scientific facts such as carbon dating more believable?
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Ophelia3
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That's ridiculous. Sometimes I think people actually forget what science is...
Definition:
the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
You're dismissing, years upon years of study, archaeological, chronological, anthropological, egyptological, geological, the list goes on... on what basis?
You're even dismissing BB's past life experience.
Science has its place, and it's a very important place.
Ophelia3
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You just casually dismiss a vast majority of specialised scientists in various fields by saying "you just believe what some "scientists" claimed"! Ahahaha bless. Some scientists being the majority? Specialised, experienced, dedicated scientists? Is that you what you mean by "some scientists". Lol I'm sorry but no.