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Oh WOW! Dats a lot of writing Eowyn. Well Done! Very detailed & organized!

I actually dont like to talk about it, but just 1-2 times, I think it's ok.
I can add to fully conscious OBE.
As you are drowsy, you lay on your bed, you can see a copy of your body, but transparent floating few cm off from your physical body; ppl call it astral/ erheric body
As you realize that the seperation takes place, when you look up above you, you will see beautiful dust & circles of very bright lights, initially they fly in circulation above you slowly, then you will see them move faster, and finally super fast that creates wind, strong wind. It keeps circulating & move towards your body, it's like a tornado ready to drag you out of your body. As it circulating towards your body, when the wind touches your etheric body, you have the sensation of like earthquake, like you are floating, trembling, you hear the sound of the fast wind moving fast in circulation til you hear super loud noise like "ngiiiiiiiiiiiiiig" as if you are about to get deaf because of it. You will feel the wind movement stronger, as it completely has your etheric body, you feel that you are getting sucked/vacuumed out of your body thru your head crown.

Next will b different experiences, depends on personal situation & conditions:
- see body laying on bed
- find yourself somewhere
- you see old memories
- you see past lives
- you see future
- you see your desired future (not necessary will take place, unless u try to create it)
- you see mind cinema/ mind images
- you hear voices
- you see creatures (fantasy)
- you see scary ones
- you see spirits
- you see shadow elements, etc.

When you go back to your physical body:
-some consciously go back, you feel exactly same as u went out, but it's like pressing in to unite, feel floating, super strong vibration with different sensation like as if you have a electrical shortcut & tingling at same moment, your head got shaken like crazy, but finally all calms down
-some abruptly due to fear & often lead to sleep paralysis.

Anyhow, it is said not to AP before you can control your mind thru mindful meditation.

Any phsycic phenomenas are only hindrance to reach blissful mind. Thus, we shall not attach to the experience. That's why guru encouraged not to talk about it, it will create attachments & karmas

Note: when you fully experience OBE consciously, you know what to do when you die.
What you experience, face or see during OBE, will be the same as when you are at bardo/intermediate state after u died.
If u r mindful, you can control all emotions & free yourself from attachment, you will be liberated & attain entlightment where karmas no longer will affect u, coz u just free yourself from the karma chain.

In fact, if u wonder why we reborn? It's because we fail to do above, so we have to go back until we learn them & attain enlightment to enter nirvana. However, as enlightened being, you may choose to take reincarnation again or not. You can choose exact place you wanna be reborn, even before you die, not AFTER you die, normally for selfless purposes only, or else you fail.

Note:
As about the attacks, it was our auto mechanism of our ego to protect itself, the brain translate our fear to its randomness, if currently u r afraid of specific animals, it will appear so before you. If u were terifying because of death in family, fear of loss, attachment to them & worriness, you might see skeleton, death creatures, demon, spirits, etc. Coz that's how our brain translate the degree of our fear, so u must overcome your fear & not to get attached to the fear sensation nor scary images. That's why enlightment is aint easy, you must really mindful & successfully detach to your likings & neg emotions.
 
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Awesome and clarifying post, Myna, thank you!

There is only a couple of things I can't agree with:

Any phsycic phenomenas are only hindrance to reach blissful mind. Thus, we shall not attach to the experience. That's why guru encouraged not to talk about it, it will create attachments & karmas

The truth is gurus say this just as a means to control people as any other religion, and probably keep their knowledge secret. I don't believe in karmas, and talking about AP hasn't brought me any attachment. The only problem sharing this knowledge is you'll encounter people who won't believe you, will think you're crazy, or just won't understand a word you're saying. This claim reminds me that other one that says that if you talk about it, you will lose the ability. No, you can lose the ability for many reasons, the most important one that we don't find the time or energy to train properly... what's more, I wouldn't even say it's an "ability" or even a psychic phenomenon, as it's a natural thing that anyone can achieve, if they just have the will and the focus. To astral project consciously you also have to change your daily routines and way of life, and that's something only a few are up to do. If I could, I would erase all these myths once and for all.

If u r mindful, you can control all emotions & free yourself from attachment, you will be liberated & attain entlightment where karmas no longer will affect u, coz u just free yourself from the karma chain.

Nonsense, as there is no "karma chain".

In fact, if u wonder why we reborn? It's because we fail to do above, so we have to go back until we learn them & attain enlightment to enter nirvana. However, as enlightened being, you may choose to take reincarnation again or not. You can choose exact place you wanna be reborn, even before you die, not AFTER you die, normally for selfless purposes only, or else you fail.

Beautiful spiritual beliefs, but I doubt they're true. And I don't see the relationship between AP and reincarnation. You can only astral project while being alive. Once you're dead, you only remain in the astral for a while, and no, you're not more enlightened than other beings just for being dead. Once in the spiritual realm, where you are a bit more detached from your last incarnation, is when you can do the proper decisions about your next incarnation. Nirvana doesn't exist either, it's just a religious concept. AP should be separated from any religious or esoteric notion, or you will be bound to create your own (false) reality any time you astral project.

In astral projection things can and must be kept simple.
 
Hi. I had a brief OBE early this morning. I don’t control when the opportunity presents itself so it has been a while. I still carry a little fear when I go into these states. It started with the usual feelings when switching- there was this honing in- unusual sounds and the feeling of rising out. It’s usually very difficult for me to leave my body- I tend to get half way up and stumble around the astral like a drunk. I remember feeling the usual struggle to rise outward but then I heard my name from behind me, “Eric” and I immediately sat up(my astral form). I remember being taken back by how easy it was once I heard my name and I thought the gentlemen was right behind me. For some reason I was too scared to turn around and look. I instantly dropped to my knees and started praying. I remember feeling a bit of the weight but not physically- just like the atmosphere around me was very active/hazy/staticy. I thought I couldn’t handle viewing this person in his true form- despite this person sounding like a regular guy. While on my knees and elbows and looking down on the ground I felt/saw a shadow figure peek over my shoulder curious to what I was doing. I tried pushing it away with my energy and saying I wasn’t interested. The guy that woke me up said, “that wasn’t me,”
I replied, “it wasn’t?”
“No.” He said. This was the first time in a long time or the first time ever I had a clear and calm conversation with a voice in this realm. It was interesting to note it was very hard for me to talk and it played back after I said it like a relay. It was a struggle and my voice came out slow and low- I sounded faint but calm whereas this person was talking clear and steady-a no second guessing pace.
I remember trying to get up and look behind me and I think I saw a ghoulish gaseous green person thing sitting on the edge of my bed where My phone charges. I knew this wasn’t the person talking either. While I was doing this he said something like, “let me go over some general things since I’ve asked similar stuff.” As soon as he said that I Woke up instantly- like i zapped/jolted back to me laying on my bed now eyes opened, guess I had to use the restroom... It was around 5AM when I awoke and I unfortunately didn’t get past that. Interesting to note I don’t remember the exact word but I think he actually said, “Let me answer in general terms since I’ve had congenial questions.” Lol I don’t think that was the exact word but he said something like that, a word I don’t think I use in my everyday vocabulary.. since I couldn’t remember exactly or wasn’t sure if it even made sense grammatically I changed it to the first way...

I haven’t had an actual communication before but this person didn’t feel like any kind of spirit or ghost or anything but just a regular person.

If you’re reading this Eowyn I wonder if you had anything similar?
 
Nice story cloud potato,
I guess this person was the astral body of a living person asleep somewhere in his bed (because of his greenish color).
Probably he'll visit you again if you get along.
 
Hi, Cloud Potato! Nice experience! Unfortunately I've had few communications while in the astral, but yes, they're weird like that. Yes, they feel like "normal guys", not spirits or ghosts as we usually conceive them. My vision in the astral barely works, so I can't tell you how they looked like, but I do remember one occasion where I felt the presence of a grumpy old man above me. He just told me I was doing fine and when I wanted to ask him something he just seemed annoyed and went away. In another occasion, when I had just left my body and was lying on the floor trying to figure out how to move, I felt the presence of a nice young guy who wanted to help me, but he saw I was confused and he left too. My guess is he had some experience, I heard the recommendation that if you encounter confused beings (as most of us are when we're asleep and wander in the astral) it's best to leave them alone.

It's interesting and fun how you were a bit confused too, and how you still try to do things in the astral as if you're still in the physical. Yours are so similar to my own experiences! I think that when you forget about that bit of fear, you'll get further than me!

Fireflydancing, it's the first time I hear the color has something to do with being asleep or not, I doubt that's true.
 
I once saw somebody shiny purple-ish and I remember you once said that an astral body can be greenish/blueish and so on. Being asleep is not so important, just likely when you meet a someone at night when you are out of your body yourself.

The first time I saw my body wasn't like this though. My reaction was more: "Wow, so that's my body (in case you're wondering, you don't see your body as it normally looks like in real life, it's more like a weird bundle of greenish/bluish energy that keeps a bit of your facial features, with a strange consistency... at least that's how I saw mine). So, that's it? O.K., what do I do now?" I lost interest quickly to be honest, I felt a kind of detachment as if I knew my body didn't matter at all, that "thing" wasn't me, it was just the vehicle I'm using this time. Of course I guess this experience is very different for each person.

So, maybe I did interpret your words differently than you intended and then I am sorry. :)
 
Hi firefly and Eowyn,

Thank you both for your response. Firefly, I remember specifically that this green thing on the edge of my bed was not the person speaking to me.

Eowyn,
It seems like a fun place to reside, or at least, things seem kind of comical after knowing you’ve encountered grumpy and regular people too.

I’m on another forum with Angels but I don’t think this gentlemen was an angel.

Have a nice night guys, ty for the replies.
 
I once saw somebody shiny purple-ish and I remember you once said that an astral body can be greenish/blueish and so on. Being asleep is not so important, just likely when you meet a someone at night when you are out of your body yourself.

Well, keep in mind I'm just talking of my subjective experiences, and everybody who is in the astral, mostly has subjective experiences. I never categorically state anything. The astral world can be perceived totally different depending on the person, as it depends a lot on your own state of mind/practice/level of experience/level of lucidity at a given moment. Precisely I'm always fighting against dogmas and myths. That said, what you encounter in the astral can be anything, from "astral bodies" (whatever that is) of asleep people (that is, unconscious people, as everyone who is asleep is astral projecting, whether they know it or not) to half-conscious people trying to "wake up" in the astral, all these alive of course, to "astral bodies" of dead people, what we'd usually call spirits, and mental statues, thought forms, and other kind of "creatures".

I’m on another forum with Angels but I don’t think this gentlemen was an angel.

I even doubt angels exist. As I always say, be careful what you believe, your own beliefs might take shape in the astral.
 
I even doubt angels exist.
From what I can tell, "Angel" is an earthly classification for a certain quality of being, possibly a soul-path that some individuals choose because they want to help others. Like taking the psychology-track through college in a way.
 
Hi Eowyn,
That’s assuming you and I have the same understanding as to what an angel is- which may not be the case. :)
 
That's the problem, Mere Dreamer and Cloud Potato, that we can call "angel" whatever we want. And with the astral, an additonal problem is that your beliefs can take physical shape and think they were real. As my mentor usually says, we just can't make the astral a reflection of the human world, because it's just a totally different thing. And as long as we don't get rid of those beliefs, we won't realize it.
 
And with the astral, an additonal problem is that your beliefs can take physical shape and think they were real.
This really sums it up. I'm well aware of the fact that what I "see" is just an interpretation of whatever aspects of truth fit into my capacity to see. Angels have so much historical myth and story to them that it's hard to break it down past the characteristics and nature they tend to display. And in another culture, of course they would have a different name.
 
I believe that one of the main reasons we incarnate as physical beings is to learn to handle the non-physical thought responsive environment in small bites (night dreams).

The other is to learn ourselves out of our primordial innate ignorance.
 
Hello Eowyn.

While I agree with your sentiments, I want to remind you what I said about this person who called my name; this form was not some angel or the opposite, demonic but, something familiar.

I have been trying to willfully project for the past week with little to no success. I don't know enough I guess. What I do know is, these experiences seem to happen after I go back to sleep from waking up in the middle of the night. For the past week I've awoken to my alarm which is set for 3:45AM, I stretch, drink some water then fell back asleep. It's easier to remember my dreams but nothing past this...

I would try again tonight but there's that old saying ringing in my head... To try the same method and expect different results is madness. Something of that sort...

Hope all is well with my Parasychology friends here at the reincarnation forum. :)
 
well i've had little success with this method but did have an unplanned out of body last night. seems i can never willfully bring it about... i can keep trying though.

last night was very difficult. the usual beginning stages are easily recognizable now i can slip so much faster it seems. i just let it come so i can try to project.
this time i heard a girl... i think i know her from work, could be mistaken. i think she said i am the astro.
lol! i don't know, i actually tried ignoring the chatter and was solely focused on pushing OUT of my body. started with an arm and i think i was able to lift but everything is still so heavy... i could not stand. i ended up crawling on the floor to my bedroom door. since i couldn't stand to open it i tried to push my head through the door thinking i'll just phase through it. once i did this things became fuzzy and black and i woke up.
 
Yesterday I had a brief OBE. I wonder if there are forces that may guide the experience? I ask because this time I was immediately pulled up and into the corner of my room. I tried staring at my physical body but broke into a lucid dream. The reason I think I was assisted is because it’s usually difficult for me to walk around. I have levitated before but this pulling up into the corner didn’t feel like my own doing. I willfully moved along with it but there wasn’t really any effort as I was being pulled.
Maybe I’ll have another opportunity tonight! :)
 
It is interesting thoughts here Eowyn and Mere Dreamer. In my meditations I've been trying to seize my thoughts, catching expectations and opening up to realities yet understood. My hope is should I slip into this in between state again I can observe my surroundings with a little more clarity. Perhaps there is no way around it, as you have said Dreamer "what I "see" is just an interpretation of whatever aspects of truth fit into my capacity to see."
Eowyn thank you for all your encouragement. I am under the belief that ghoulish green figure may have been some aspect of myself. Posted here as in introduction, I've had a very strange dream back in 2008 that lead me to my searching. The color green is very important and sometimes I think my aura may have different hues of green.
 
this happened last thursday. i woke up in the early morning. my ribs were in pain, it was the mattress' fault. well i thought it'd be a good time to try and project and was right. it took multiple attempts to pull myself out. i was exhausted performing this. i also heard my mother whisper, "I wish you parked the car on the driveway"(No not literally but that's what I heard while slipping into the astral. I stayed at my parents house this night and slept in my old room). i remember walking up to my bedroom door and thinking i didn't know how to open it so instead I'd walk through it. I distinctly remember trying 2 or 3 times to get it done. Once i did this I walked down the stairs towards our front door. The door, a glass door, was emitting a golden light like dusk. I thought this was odd since everything else was so dark and it would soon be morning in waking time. It was a very comforting light and you could see particles in the air, I was entranced. I walked towards the light with a curiosity but as I got closer some force started to pull me back. The more I tried walking forward the tireder I became. I finally let go and was pulled backwards up the stairs and quickly snapped back into my body and woke up.
 
I walked towards the light with a curiosity but as I got closer some force started to pull me back. The more I tried walking forward the tireder I became. I finally let go and was pulled backwards up the stairs and quickly snapped back into my body and woke up.

This always happens the first times. If you want to stay longer and have the energy, just try to grab at any object you see, resist the pull and think "Hey, I want to stay more in the astral", it's just a matter of will. Also, you can get back to your body, but get out again before the final union takes place. I've been able to do this two or three times before waking up.

BTW, great experience! ;)
 
Two nights ago it happened to me too. After several not pleasant half succeded experiences, I finally managed to make my first real astral travel in full consciousness. It was different from what I had expected and I had so much fun. I was euphoric, not only during my adventure but also after going back to my body and also the day after.
That night I went to bed, saying to myself: I want to leave my body and be conscious all the time. That was it. I left all the techniques and expectations I am used to trying to leave my body. I entered a dream state in which I was at my parent's house and in which I also went to bed, trying to sleep. Then I felt that special feeling that I was leaving my body (I know that well, but usually I lose memory immediately afterward). In my case, it feels like making a huge salto through space, in slow motion.
This time I kept my consciousness and I was excited.
I've been in a lot of unknown places. I experimented a lot. Mostly all was grey and dark. Empty streets, empty office buildings. I tried to reach a certain place, that I've memorized to go to just in case one day (night) I would suddenly find myself out of my body, but I didn't reach the place. I guess I was in a street very close, I recognized the neighborhood, but then I decided to test if I could go back to my body, which happened instantly. It wasn't a return, it was instantly back in my body. I moved my lips and knew I was back.
It was different from what I had expected. I was in control of my mind and I was very aware and very curious about every little aspect. I tried to memorize as much as possible, but I know I've forgotten parts of the adventure because I've been in a lot of buildings and I don't remember them. One moment I was in a supermarket, the only part in which there were other people around and there were colors. I immediately knew I had entered a memory, I knew I had been there as a child. I tried to touch a lady, but she didn't notice me, I was invisible to the people there. At the end of the shop, I pushed myself through a wall and I entered the grey world again, another deserted office. There were words written on the wall, that I could read, but not understand. Unknown language.
I told my son and he commented if it could have been lucid dreaming. I think astral traveling is connected to lucid dreaming (I'll have to study this) but it was different from a dream. First of all: there was no story. Nothing happened, just me roaming around, doing tests and experimenting. Highly aware.
I've had lucid dreams in my life, but they are real dreams with stories and I've never been able to stay long time in a lucid dream.
In this astral travel, I was in control as long as I wanted. Nothing happened to me. I moved through empty streets (night!!) and empty buildings (night!!).
I also told my cousin who used to astral travel during childhood and she had that same happy smile on her face as myself. She had had the same fun when she was younger.
I hope my adventures will continue.
 
That was a great experience, fireflydancing, I love it when people tell they were successful.

I think astral traveling is connected to lucid dreaming (I'll have to study this) but it was different from a dream. First of all: there was no story. Nothing happened, just me roaming around, doing tests and experimenting. Highly aware.
I've had lucid dreams in my life, but they are real dreams with stories and I've never been able to stay long time in a lucid dream.

I don't remember if I explained earlier in the thread, but yes, of course they're connected. Only, it's not easy to explain when people haven't seen it for themselves. The difference between astral travel and lucid dreaming is only the degree of lucidity in each experience. Or, in other words, how much your mind is interfering. Our minds create dreams. A dream starts being lucid when you're aware you're dreaming. From there, you can have more or less control of the dream itself. If you reach enough lucidity, your mind just stays aside and it's only then that you can fully move and experience the astral plane, it's when you can say you are seeing "the real astral plane". Of course, this is quite hard to do. If you manage to have really long OBEs, you might begin to notice that lucidity can vary within the same experience, so you'll witness how a lucid dream can become an astral travel, or how, from an astral travel, you can go back to a lucid dream or a normal dream. And this is why you can also use lucid dreams to "enter" the astral realm. If you have enough control, you only have to say "I don't want to be lucid dreaming, I want to get out of this dream and explore the astral". And then you'll see how the dream just fades and suddenly you're somewhere else. This can be more confusing, but it is said to be an easier technique than trying to separate from your physical body being wholly conscious.

Some people still believe astral travel and lucid dreaming are the same thing, but through my experience I found out this is not the case. As one of my mentors said, and you've described it very well with your own words, "A lucid dream is still a dream".
 
3-4. 4 attempts. each one becoming more elaborate and slowly turning into dream state before waking up. 4:44AM final time to wake up.
happened after falling back to sleep around 3:00AM and sipping water. layed on back and projected. first time out, i pulled myself out of bed and looked around. let my mind wonder so everything reset. 2nd time out i looked at my arms, realizing i was back in the bed- aware of my body and the feelings and pulled myself back out. this time i came out of body very easily and was almost floating- i couldn't get steady right away and tilted too far into one corner of the room. after regaining balance i started to dance(waltz) around the bedroom. from here something happened and everything reset, i'm back in bed. third time out i again look at my hands and arms in front of me- i think i am beginning to see more of a solid form in the astral. i get out and know i can walk through my bedroom door so i do. nice. i'm at my parents house. walking around i feel an uncomfortable presence in my parents room like i should not enter my dads bedroom, it was an unwanted energy that could have turned my experience into a fearful one. i avoid going that direction. the dogs who are are curious to the commotion outside dads room(thats where they're sleeping) come running out only, they're in the astral too. one of the dogs recognizes me and the other is a little scared at first and pulls back. the energy is playful as we rush down the stairs and head towards the backyard. our astral forms if i remember were like light shells of our physical bodies. not quite the same, like an energetic outline of our physical selves hard to explain. anyways... we go up to the door leading to the backyard and the dogs look at me thinking they need me to open the door... instead i push myself through and they follow suit very quickly(like it was no problem) and run out to grass. i'm laying in the yard under the tree watching the dogs. they come up to me and everything resets, i'm back in bed. now, the 4th time is more of a dream. the tv which is off in reality is on but i'm not watching. instead it's a theme song to some show i'm listening in the background. i feel younger too, weird. i get up and pull myself out of body and find someone here, my cousin? are we living together? and am i in a different room? i'm very hungry and i think i'm still in the astral. i must be dreaming at this point but i will ritz cheddar cheese crackers into existence. as i question how i did that i then receive a lecture from who may be my cousin that i left some orange juice outside from the party i held the night before and need to clean it up. as i eat the crackers i begin to realize i'm dreaming and that something is off so i wake up. i tried recording as soon as i've returned. it's now 5:04AM excuse the informal entry :) coming back felt weird and is taking a while to adjust and wake up completely, getting there :D(or should i say here?)
 
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Hi Cloud Potato,

How did you do it???
You left your body by will. Several times on a row. I think that’s special.

So, how did you manage to leave your body?
 
hi firefly,

thanks. i think your experiences are special too. your last one is very interesting and i'm not sure i've experienced one like it. i must be tired because i think you've answered your own question. you left your body by will too, no?

... like you the opportunity isn't always there and i've tried to recreate what i thought to be the proper conditions for an out of body with little success. how wonderful is it to see others validate our experience- like a ringing in the ear, the chatty voices, the metal noises, the creeping feelings slowly working up the body all indications... the slow motion of pushing out just as you've described above.
there are different effects, different experiences yet there seems to be a lot of common ground too... i am really blown away by those shared here... you've really given me some thought on will power too, that's real magic.

i've noticed in my later years the opportunity seems to happen when i wake up early in the morning, have a small stretch or a sip of water then go back to sleep laying on my back. from there i relax and watch my body enter rest... if i can maintain a degree of self awareness, like noting the body beginning to shut down i take it as an opportunity and direct my energy on pushing out. there is a certain crossover point that i'm not sure i can pin down. anyways... i simply push myself out. the best way for me has been to start with the arms but i suppose everyone is different... if you find yourself in this state and know your body is asleep try seeing yourself lifting your arms out of your arms(if that makes any sense) if you can do that then surely you can pull yourself up and out too, right? :)
sometimes i hear myself saying to sit up lol

i hope this helps... i didn't know how to answer your question....

peace <3
 
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I’m pretty sure I’ve done it a few times. I had heard of it before and wondered if that’s what I’ve experienced, but what really convinced me is that a friend of mine, the one with some psychic abilities who’s confirmed some of my PL’s, has been to some of the same “places” as I have, and also, as crazy as this sounds, we were in the same place together. I saw him there and he saw me, and we both remembered when talking about it the next day. It wasn’t just a regular dream with him in it. He was THERE.

I should add, I have no control whatsoever as to whether I project or don’t. It just happens spontaneously.
 
Hi Cloud Potato,

you left your body by will too, no?
Nope, it just happened to me and while in the process, I recognized the feeling of leaving the body and only then my will took over. I was in a dream first. In that dream, I was laying on a couch in my parental house (which doesn't exist any longer in reality) and I tried to sleep in that dream and suddenly I felt that special feeling I already knew but never was able to go through without losing memory.
The first experience (years before) was like being catapulted into darkness but NO control at all.
I know that in a lot of 'dreams' I must be in an astral plane somehow but only to realize it afterward.
But I've never managed to leave in full consciousness. I have tried since childhood and so many times I was so close but then a highly strong 'whush' happens that knocks out my consciousness.
 
-HM- that's amazing. i've read of similar experiences but haven't been able to go far whenever i do project. only in rare instances i think. thank you for sharing that...

fireflydancing,

I finally managed to make my first real astral travel in full consciousness. It was different from what I had expected and I had so much fun. I was euphoric, not only during my adventure but also after going back to my body and also the day after.
That night I went to bed, saying to myself: I want to leave my body and be conscious all the time. That was it.

i presume this is accredited to your will, whether it's in the manner you're expecting or not. without such, this experience may have never happened. the body sleeps, the mind dreams and you've been able to wake up in a dream. that's amazing- you've insight to a subtler realm.
i have only projected out of body as a child once while laying in the back of my parents car and looking at the clouds... i suspect in meditation there are ways to achieve this.
i can attest there is a honing in before a pushing out occurs, which i think is related to this crossing over 'whush' you're describing. it's the body entering into a rest mode... perhaps you trick the body by slowing it down willfully in meditation... anyways, as mentioned in previous post i too am simply recognizing the opportunity. the right conditions have to be made first.

well i've made my attempts from the very limited scope i can draw from. i hope these insights help...

learning more about the astral and having the experience, just like dreams have brought me much joy. i wonder though, if we can transcend ourselves from the astral towards a different plane...

well thanks for the exchange. peace.
 
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this is new for me...
two nights ago i was in a hotel room and i was able to astral project around 4:30AM. I remember getting up and out from the corner of the bed to the window. I saw the field outside and I pushed myself through the window and down to the field. Now... I'm not sure if this turned into a lucid dream or... But I felt like I was watching a scene from the past. Someone was shot in the field. I don't think I saw the shooter or even the person being shot. But I sat down next to him.. Whoever he was- he wasn't there. Or was he...? A person died here is what I thought. It was an impression or a very vivid idea played out like a movie. Hard to explain. After sitting down by the scene and taking it in I woke up. Not sure what to make of this one.
 
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