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Exit Points

Cryscat

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An AI Summery : In a spiritual context, an "exit point" is a moment or a choice for a soul to leave a life, either early by choosing an early death or by choosing to remain in the current timeline for a "living reincarnation," a transformative shift in their life's focus. This concept suggests that souls may have a planned number of potential points to "exit" their physical form, and these can be linked to fulfilling soul contracts, achieving life purposes, or experiencing significant spiritual shifts.

We don't always see those exit points yet some are more than obvious - the near-fatal car accident, the life-threatening illness. Those opportunities are presented so that we can begin something new on a new plane of existence. But we don't take some of these points. Sometimes they are the place or thing you are supposed to do and end up not doing that or going there. Like the people on 9/11/01 who didn't get on those planes or drive into NYC.

Do you know of any of your possible exit points?
 
This Seth quote seems relevant here:

It is not either simply a matter of biological clocks, with some people using their available energies faster. Value fulfillment deals with certain kinds of qualities that must appear in time.

(Long pause.) The purposes and value fulfillment intents of some people are often reached in your terms at a young age. They give to life and receive from life more or less what they intended to, and are quite prepared to die and start anew. In a manner of speaking, now, illnesses also serve as gateways to death in that regard—which may or may not be chosen at any specific time. That is, they are available. No one is forced to enter those gateways. Some people (pause) know very well that they have decided to die—or do not care (colon): they may “come down” with severe illnesses and then change their minds because for other reasons the very crises revive them.

They may even seek the experience in order to put their own lives in a different, larger perspective, many such people are not fully aware of such decisions, and so many face-saving psychological devices are used by the individual, and certainly by society, to smother the recognition of such unofficial motivation. It may then indeed seem to the individual himself or herself that the health crisis is being thrust upon them, unwanted, despite their own wishes or intents.

(Long pause at 9:02.) When people finally want to die they will pursue that intent, because each physical death does indeed come—despite your beliefs—as the final framing or finishing touches or culmination of a given existence.

In those terms it is like a creative venture, finished to the best of one’s ability in the given medium, and leaves one with a sense of satisfaction, fulfillment, and completion. (Long pause.) One woman wrote Ruburt about the definite healing of her mother from cancer. There were many details given—but overall the woman felt that she herself had made a bargain with God, offering her own life instead of her mother’s. The mother recovered under the most unexpected circumstances, and a short time later the daughter came down with the same symptoms.

[... 1 paragraph ...]

(Long pause at 9:12.) Many people, wanting to die, do not seek out illnesses, of course. They may die in their sleep of unexplained heart failure or whatever, or in accidents. They may seek death out in dangerous pursuits. In the framework of general beliefs, however, the natural desire for death is not included in the list of human motivations. Often such a desire comes naturally and passes naturally several times in a lifetime. The clear recognition of such a psychological feeling alone helps such individuals understand their own positions and intents, but usually the feeling itself is forced to go underground because people are so afraid of it. Such a feeling, recognized, can also serve—as it did serve the woman’s mother—as a critical point of recognition that the desire to die was triggered not so much (long pause) by the feeling of life’s completion as by the fact that the individual had set up too many restrictions in life itselfrestrictions that were severely cutting back its own possibilities of value fulfillment, or future effective action. In that kind of a case, the situation can serve to reverse the conditions. The person recognizes the restrictions and changes his or her ways accordingly, opening the doorway not into death but to further life and action in this space and time.

(Long pause.) Overall, the psychology of death of course then involves the psychology of life, for people are seeking for a value fulfillment that connects each of their lives—that is, in reincarnational terms.
The Personal Sessions: Book 6 of The Deleted Seth Material; Deleted Session July 13, 1981 © 2017 Laurel Davies-Butts
 
I think it is relevant as well.

My one exit point that I didn't take happened when I was 25. Car accident that might have been fatal if I hadn't done some maneuvering to get out of it. Right in front of the fire house. The driveway came in handy.
 
That was a very young age, Cryscat. Any insight why there would be a pre-planned exit point so early in your life?
 
That was a very young age, Cryscat. Any insight why there would be a pre-planned exit point so early in your life?
I don't really know why one was planed at 25, aside from maybe if I felt I was done, could have taken it, but I didn't.
 
When I look at a story, "real" or fictional, I attempt to identify the roles: betrayed, betrayer, collateral-damage. if you open a wide enough time window on a character, "real" or fictional, it also follows a path: collateral-damage -> betrayer -> betrayed; this can be confined to one life or can span over incarnations.

I think that some of the exit points could correspond with the transitions between those roles. Taking or not taking such an exit might depend on how one handled the role.

Maybe, if you look from this perspective at that 25 year old, if that was an exit point you could identify such a role-change point.
 
Cryscat,

Thanks for posting this. I definitely experienced one of my exit points in this lifetime at a young age of 22 years old from a heart attack. I was getting over having Hepatitis A that summer from a visit to Mexico in 1982. I had lost a lot of weight, and we were having a heat wave that year. Where I lived, we had no air conditioning. Long story short my heart became overwhelmed from the heat which triggered the heart attack. While waiting for the paramedics to come I technically died in my living room. This is when I had my NDE. Before the NDE I had left the church at 13 years old since I just could not believe in what they were teaching. So, after that I became agnostic.

During the NDE I briefly experience cosmic consciousness while out of the body. While in that state of consciousness I became aware I had lived before in other lifetimes and that humanity has been reincarnating on this planet for thousands of years. This knowledge was new to me at the time since the Church did not teach this. After I recovered, I learned I had Wolff-Parkinson-White (WPW) Syndrome which is a rare heart condition characterized by an extra electrical pathway in the heart that causes an abnormally fast heartbeat (tachycardia). Basically, I have two heart beats by birth.

This experience with my exist point took me on a very different direction in life which is why I am now writing this to all of you today. So, I guess I needed that experience to place me back on track on my life path. I could have existed the physical plane at that point but chose to stay instead. Thanks again for posting this.

Love and peace.

Polaris
 
@Polaris8 I'm just curious as I was having this discussion with a friend recently, but have you incorporated changes into your daily life since this experience?

Like practically in how you think, live and engage with others? Can you describe how?
 
Polaris8 - Thanks for posting your exit point. I have the same question as Totoro!

I also invite others to post..
 
@Polaris8 I'm just curious as I was having this discussion with a friend recently, but have you incorporated changes into your daily life since this experience?

Like practically in how you think, live and engage with others? Can you describe how?
Yes, very much so. Since the NDE I have had over the years OBE's off and on throughout my life. I no longer fear death as I see it as a transition from this state of reality to the next. I have even visited friends while out of the body that have passed on that now reside on the middle astral plane. One of them has moved on to the mental plane so contact with them is gone for me while I am still incarnated on the physical. Also, the experience has taught me to be far more patience and loving with people which have no knowledge of reincarnation or the reality of the afterlife as most rely on what the church tells them which does not really do a very good job of it personally.

I understand that everyone that is incarnated here are all coming from various different levels of spiritual evolution and awareness which is why we have so many religious and spiritual paths on this planet. Yet all of us as soul are all inwardly connected by divine love to the source of all that is in the cosmos or what man terms as God. So, each soul experiences God from their own unique perspective and spiritual lens. So, it doesn't matter what path you follow as it's all a part of the universal tapestry of life.

Had I not had that exit point experience who knows where I would be now. My life would have taken on a very different path. Much like the Poem by Robert Frost.....

The Road Not Taken.

I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

love and peace always.

P.


 
Had I not had that exit point experience who knows where I would be now. My life would have taken on a very different path.

As I understand the concept of "exit point", you either take it or you don't. If you did well at that point in your life, you take it, you're done with this. If you didn't do well, you keep going.

So, if you identify genuine "exit points" you didn't take, it means that you didn't learn at that stage what you had set to.

I tie it to "acceptance".
 
As I understand the concept of "exit point", you either take it or you don't. If you did well at that point in your life, you take it, you're done with this. If you didn't do well, you keep going.

So, if you identify genuine "exit points" you didn't take, it means that you didn't learn at that stage what you had set to.

I tie it to "acceptance".
Baro,

A Soul exit point is referring to pre-determined moment before birth in a person's life where soul has a choice to end the current incarnation or to remain and continue on in their current lifetime. These points are thought to be moments of significant choice that may arise during near-death experiences, serious health issues, or other life-altering events. Some beliefs suggest a soul is given a specific number of exit points to choose from before birth.

So basically, we all plan several of these exist points out before we reincarnate. There is no failure in not taking a exist point. As soul always has free will. We simply have decided to stay and experience more of what that lifetime has to offer us helping us further our spiritual evolution as soul. If on the other hand, we do take an exist point we have completed the basic karmic lesson needed that the lifetime had to offer us, so we exist from the physical plane and continue on in one of the higher dimensions of God.

This is only my opinion, but this might explain why some souls choose to exist while in childhood or infancy. They simply don't have a lot of karma to work off so they leave early. Yet they're passing effects other souls left behind that are connected to that soul. Their passing helps those left behind to evolve and grow on a deeper level of being. Remember, that the baby might be young to us on the physical plane but the soul that inhabitants that body is older than the universe itself.

love and peace P.
 
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