Is reincarnation a choice?

[Widmo]

I would say that it's not Should it have been a choice, I for sure would not have come back. Only way is if there is more to life than I can understand at this point or bribery, one or the other.

 

[usetawuz]

I believe we are all here out of choice. The opportunity to live an illusion of an apparent separate existence in a third dimensional world is hugely desireable from the standpoint of the soul. The human body is a wonderfully adaptable machine enabling an astronomical amount of capability and sensory capacity within this environment. The duality of the earth also offers an enormous number of varying experiences, ranging across the spectrum of what we may call good and bad, but which from the soul's view, are simply opportunities for exploration.

 

[tanguerra]

I believe we are all here out of choice. The opportunity to live an illusion of an apparent separate existence in a third dimensional world is hugely desireable from the standpoint of the soul. The human body is a wonderfully adaptable machine enabling an astronomical amount of capability and sensory capacity within this environment. The duality of the earth also offers an enormous number of varying experiences, ranging across the spectrum of what we may call good and bad, but which from the soul's view, are simply opportunities for exploration.

Yes. This is how I see it. Beautifully put too.


Is it a 'choice' to wake up in the morning and face another day? Well, sort of. Some days more than others. But, it's your day and you are free to make of it what you will. Life can be a drudgery or an adventure. Life can be about love or not. It's up to you. Have you all seen Groundhog Day? It's like that (maybe not as funny sometimes).

 

[Lia1992]

I believe that Reincarnation is a choice. It may be analogous to going to school. If we put the question of attending classes to a panel of wise scholars, they would probably reply that it is necessary only if we wish to progress.

That's a flawed analogy because going to school is not always a choice. In Germany, there is actual school coersion. The police are allowed to escort unwilling children to school if they don't want to and I don't believe that reincarnation will be forced that violently onto us.

 

[Cyrus]

That's a flawed analogy because going to school is not always a choice. In Germany, there is actual school coersion. The police are allowed to escort unwilling children to school if they don't want to and I don't believe that reincarnation will be forced that violently onto us.

Good old thread - thank you for bringing it up, Lia.

I think any analogy between school-coercion and reincarnation is far-fetched and irrelevant.

I think Michael Newton's mentioning that the unwilling (to reincarnate) souls are somehow strongly "encouraged" to reincarnate nevertheless, is a good basis for discussion.
In practice, it might mean, that a couple of times your lack of desire to reincarnate will be tolerated, but after that some more drastic measures might be taken towards you to make you change your mind.

I, personally, would like to know, what consequences might have not the refusal to reincarnate at all, but the refusal to do so immediately, to postpone the reincarnation.
I suspect this was just my case before my last reincarnation, when I decided to stay some extra 20 years by the side of my invalid cousin to help him to organize better his terrestrial life after they killed me in the war. And taking into account, that there are strong indications that there was also in play my soul group of about 4-5 other young guys who were killed together with me. It is supposed (?) that the members of the same soul group die and reincarnate together (?), or I'm wrong?

IMHO.

Best regards.

 

[fireflydancing]

I also think it’s all by choice. I see it the way @usetawuz expressed it above.
I have no knowledge of the stories of the clients of Newton.
It’s not difficult to sum up a lot of reasons why souls could be persuaded to do a new incarnation. Simply for their own benefits or others as well.

 

[There and back again]

That's a flawed analogy because going to school is not always a choice. In Germany, there is actual school coersion. The police are allowed to escort unwilling children to school if they don't want to and I don't believe that reincarnation will be forced that violently onto us.

Most of what many around the world get these days is force fed ideology and rubbish while being educated just enough for the soulless 8 or 9 to 5 grind. As for Germany it is no wonder why countless souls have incarnated there only to scatter especially after the war.

 

[Polaris8]

I'm sorry if this has been covered before, but I've wondered if we choose to reincarnate or if we had other options. Is this the only world we return to or are we free to live in other worlds and dimensions?

If a thread on this subject is in the files- could you direct me to it? Thanks.

Pyewacket,

This is only my opinion and experience since I have had both an NDE years ago and since then have experienced on again off again conscious OBE's over the many years. Your question is actually two fold. First off as soul we all ready exist on this higher dimension as we speak. Because soul resonates beyond linear time, space and matter. However because we are incarnated on the physical plane which is the most dense and lowest vibrational frequency we are not aware of these higher dimensions generally while we are awake. When we sleep our consciousness shifts inward away from the physical and centers itself in the astral body. There we experience the 4th dimension of our universe. When we return most of us do not remember our activities while out of the body. Generally we only become fully aware of these other dimensions when soul drop the physical body at death. Then one's consciousness becomes centered in one of the subtle bodies that operate either on the astral, mental or causal worlds.

After death we exist on these higher dimensions until we are ready to incarnate again. This is more or less an instinct to manifest and incarnate into the lower worlds of duality as this is the process of how consciousness (the soul) itself evolves throughout the cosmos. If we are at a younger soul stage of evolution there are other more advance souls that help us out in the process of coming back to the physical plane as it is quite the undertaking and commitment to manifest a new lower ego and personality that will be used as a tool while incarnated. Not to mention a new physical, astral and mental body that comes along with it. As we unfold and become more evolved and mature as a spiritual being we have a much larger part in determining our next lifetime in more detail. So the process is both choice and instinct to evolve and grow. All life follows these process, although in the lower forms which are the mineral, plant and animal kingdoms it is strictly by instinct alone to come back. However once consciousness becomes an individualized self aware ego it will then be more conscious of this decisions.

At some point we will all reach a point where we will no longer need to incarnate into the lower more heavier dimensions of reality but will instead take up permanent residents within the higher worlds. What we chose to do there is totally an individual decision.

Sorry for long explanations.

Love and peace.

P.