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My daughter's first words

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Marieta

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Hello again from Spain!

I have a sweet little daughter. She is 19 months old and she starts talking... She says simple words like: mama, papa, no... But she really has difficulties to say "Si" ("yes" in spanish). She knows how to pronounce the "s" and how to pronounce the "i", but she doesn't say "si". Each time, instead of saying "si" she says "da". Then I say "you have to say "si", repeat "si". And she says "si". But when she responds she always says "da".
My mother is an expert on logotherapy and says that she doesn't know why she says "da".
We have discobered that "Da" is the word for "yes" in russian, rumanian and maybe other languages. The other day my mother sayed "maybe she was russian in another life", which surprised me because I thought she didn't believe in this.
On the other hand my daughter's favourite toy is a matrioshka (russian dolls that you put one inside of another...). My mother had a little matrioshka that somebody gave her as a souvenir and my daughter was crazy about her, she always wanted the matrioshka. So I bought one for her and it's her favourite doll...
Yes, maybe she was russian... Or maybe it is just a coincidence... From what age children start "saying" things of before or foreing words? Anyway, I think that maybe it is better for her not to remember other lifes... Sometimes I think it can be difficult for a child to live with past memories of other lifes. It makes they suffer... (as I saw on the videos you recommend).
Thank you for reading!
 
Hello Marieta,


Thanks for sharing that information about the word "yes" in different languages. I think if you just keep a detailed journal about your daughter's development, she and you will appreciate having that record someday.
 
Hello again Marieta!!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for sharing this with us. I have a young boy the same age as your daughter's and I know what a fabulous time it is - they are discovering everything and their inner world begins to show itself in so many unexpected little things - every day there's something new, and it's just wonderful! :)


I must say that, in my opinion, it may be very well be that she's had a past life in Russia or thereabouts. Curiously enough, I feel that my little boy had a life in a russia too, because of the sort of music he's attracted to, the singsong in his voice when he talks (loong and incredibly convincing sentences, only we don't understand a word he says :D ) - he simply "sounds" russian. ;)


You say this worries you somewhat, because you feel many children suffer and have trouble dealing with their PL memories. While this is certainly the case with some children, I don't think it is the majority at all. (I don't mean to be scientific in my statement, I'm not aware of any statistics in this area at all). I'm inclined to think that most children do have PL memories and express them in their behaviour in many different ways. To most parents, I think, these little things simply go by unnoticed and then the child just "grows out" of it.


I think we parents can make a huge difference in how painful or difficult remembering PL's will be to our children. I neither encourage nor discourage such notions with my own kids. If something arises, I adress their manifestations as I would with any other thing. I just act natural I guess. Sometimes my youngest stares into my eyes with a peculiar expression when he listens to certain songs, and I can feel all the questions in his eyes. I just smile and wink and give him a hug. For now, I feel it's perfectly enough.


My oldest boy shows many signs of remembering sundry things from past lives - like knowing A LOT about the Kennedys :eek: (far more than he could ever have picked up on the news - especially him being only 6). I just go "Wow! How did you know that?". And when he gives his usual "I dunno!" answer I just tell him he's lucky to remember so many interesting things.


Sorry for the awfully long post! :D


Keep us posted if you have any updates about your little girl! She's blessed to have you as mom (and grandma sounds like a very interesting lady too! :) ) :thumbsup:


Love


Welsh
 
Hola Marieta,


It does sound like your daughter might have a Russian or eastern European past. It doesn't sound like the memories from there would be especially traumatic, as she seems to love the matrioshkas and hasn't showed any distress about it.


It's so interesting to see the little things, and perhaps she will talk about her past life/lives when she grows up. I wouldn't be afraid of it, though. If she seems unhappy about some memories, there might be a problem in her current life, and she's drawing from a past life to deal with some issue.


If there is an issue/phobia/problem, remembering past life experiences can be a blessing and a way to healing. Usually it's a good thing to remember, even if it wouldn't be easy at the time.


Keep us posted, if your darling daughter will show more "Russian signs". :)


Karoliina
 
Hello all!


Thank you for your messages and words... And sorry for being "out" such a long time. It is really difficult to find time to write because I take care of my girl and I also work as a teacher...


Well, my girl is growing. She is now 27 months. She says everyday more and more words. It is wonderful to see her growing...


I have been observing some things she says... Sometimes she says the name "Antoni", but there is no person around as with this name. One day she starts crying "Antoni" several times while we were in the park. I asked her "Who is Antoni" and she just stared at me.


Also one day we went for a walk in the forest. We found an old farm made of stone with a wooden door. She went to the door and she wanted to go in saying "Antoni".


Some days later my father was showing us some photos of an excursion he made. On one photo we could see an ancient window made of stone, also from an old farm. My daughter looked at the photo and sayed "Antoni" again... I asked her "who is Antoni" and she just stared again at me...


Well, I'll tell you later. She woke up!
 
Hi Marieta,


Thank you for the updates. Very interesting side notes. Please do keep us posted.
 
Hi Marieta! I've been hoping for an update, but I know you must be extremely busy with your job and your little one, who must be running about the house by now.


I have a hunch, that if you are able to research and learn a couple of Italian or Russian nursery rhymes or songs, your daughter might react in a very interesting manner.


And, instead of asking who Antoni is, you might get more than a blank stare by reassuring her that Antoni will be coming soon. If nothing else, it might reassure her.


It sounds distinctly as if she is confused about her present life and surroundings, and I don't feel that it would do any harm to support the memories of her old life. Speaking a few words in Italian or Russian might help a great deal. If she responds with a steady stream of Italian replies, then it would appear that you have hit the mother-load of evidence for reincarnation.


If Italian or Russian don't do the trick, you might also want to try a number of other romance languages in which the name Antoni is common.


Good luck! And please let us know how she is progressing. She is at the perfect age for you to experience the most profound events in your life.


-Nightrain
 
Sorry for the delate again! Yes, she is always running around me... :) I didn't see your answers, sorry again!


When I ask her "who is Antoni" she really stares at me and says nothing. I feel she doesn't understand why I ask her this... Like if I ask her: "who is daddy?" or "who is grandmother?". I feel she thinks that I know this Antoni.


She just says this name sometimes, not very often. As I told you, in front of an ancient door and when she saw an ancient window. Both from ancient farms...


I talked with my mother about that and she sayed: It is better not to know... It is better not to go further...


And as I told you I just observe her. I think I preffer to let things happen, I am afraid of doing more than that. But I think that it is a good idea to reassure her about Antoni, thanks Nightrain. It seems to be somebody very important to her.


She talks much more now and clearly. She already says "Sí" but I have observed that when she is playing or she is distracted (I am not sure about this word. I want to say: "distraída") she tends to say "da" again... :)


Thank you for your words and thank you for this forum, when I feel free to talk about this...


Best wishes,


Maria
 
Hi Maria! Never apologize! Things happen!


I am no expert, and I certainly would not wish to disrespect the opinion of anyone else, especially your Mom. But, if you read enough posts and read the information available from respected experts; you'll find that it is always better to know as much as possible, without fear of opening up a "can of worms". But, when it comes to your child, you are the parent, and your intuition counts.


Even if nothing else happens, I'm sure you'll enjoy the Forum. Your input is very valuable.


-Nightrain
 
Hello, Nightrain!


I think I didn't explain mayself very well... It is difficult sometimes to explain things in a foreign language.


My mother told me not to go further, not to force her memories... But I am not sure about that. I don't agree completely. At the same time I am also afraid of asking her for more.


I am waiting. I accept and observe what she says and I record it in a diary. She is in peace with this small memories, I think. She is just a little confused when she remembers this "Antoni". Next time I will tell her what you recomend me, I think it is better to reassure her.


I will continue later, she is here now trying to play with the computer.... :)


Thank you


Maria
 
Hi Marieta! I now understand. Very good. Your English is excellent! I wish I could respond properly in your language. I had a big smile when you mentioned your daughter trying to play with the computer. I used to let my oldest son sit on my lap when he was two years old. He would just plunk away on the typewriter until he got bored, then he would get down and go away happy.


-Nightrain
 
Antoni


Hello Marieta,


If you like, you might write me a message in Spanish, as it is my paternal language (my mother tongue being Dutch).


Regarding Antoni, according to online sources it is not a Slavic or Romanian name. The normal form would be Anton, stressed on the first syllable. How does she pronounce the name? As Ahn-tony, or as An-taw-ny or as Anto-nee? The second version might be a Catalan name (as in Antoni Gaudí). The first version could even be English ;-).


Un abrazo,


Titus Rivas
 
Hola, Titus Rivas:


thank you so much for your offer. Gracias!


About the name my daughter repeats: it sounds like Antoni in catalan (she says also "Toni" instead of Antoni). Catalan is my mother language and it sounds like in catalan. So it is not a strange name but it is not usual nowadays. There is no "Antoni" or "Toni" around us (her world is still very small). The strange thing is that she associates the name with old farms or old houses made of stone.


I am still observing (and loving) her.


Best wishes y hasta pronto,


Marieta
 
Just a little new thing:


on sunday we had a big familiar lunch in my cousin's house. Before going there I was talking with my daughter (2 years and a half). She was also playing with something while we were talking, so she wasn't very concentrated in the words...


I told her that we were going to have lunch with the hole family: grandmother, grandfather, aunt Maria, uncle Joseph, our cousins... She started to say also the names of our family: aunt Maria, uncle Joseph, cousin Marc... and then she added the names "Toni and Meli". As if they were part of our family and they were supposed to be in the lunch.


My heart beated. I thought: "here they are again". It's not only this Antoni / Toni but also a Meli. I have no idea of what kind of name "Meli" is.


It's a small thing and my daughter is still too small to explain things.. I asked her: "Who is Meli?" and she said "Mama" and then she added: "I don't know". And then I asked her "Who is Toni?" and staring at me she said again: "I don't know".


Anyway, it seems that Toni and Meli were important to her and that they were probably her family, because for her they were supposed to be in the lunch among us.


I think that for her, in a way, her past life is still in the present... With her. She believes they are here, I think.
 
Thank you for the update, Marieta.

I have no idea of what kind of name "Meli" is.
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Meli could be a shortened version of a name like Melina, Melissa, Melisande or Melanie.


I also read that it is a Sicilian nickname meaning "honey," although that was just listed on one page and would require a more extensive search to verify :)


Please keep us posted!


Aili
 
Hello again from Spain:


it's been such a long time since I wrote the last time... As always, I am a happy and busy working mother of two little girls. Some years ago I told you about my older girl and her first words. When she was around two years she started to talk about a "Toni". I remember once that we were in the park, alone. She started to shout: "Toni, Toni". There was nobody there. She used to say "Toni" when she was in front of old farms and once she wanted to go inside one of them. I asked her: "where are you going?", and she just answered "Toni". At the beginning, as she was very little, I did'nt know exactly if she was saying "Antoni" or just " Toni", but as she grew, it was clear that she was saying just "Toni". After a while, she stopped talking about him and that was all. She is now 5 years.


But there are some last news about these story: I have another little girl who is now 20 months. She says her first words, also. When I am working, my mother takes care of her. Some days ago, when I arrived home, my mother told me that my daughter had said something strange: she (my daughter) was playing and acting like a cat, doing "miaou" and so on... My mother asked her: "What's the name of this cat?" And she asked "Toni". As there is no Toni around us, my mother was a little bit surprised that she knew this name (it's not very common). Then, my mother asked her "And what's the name of this little girl?" and she asked "Marta" (her name). They were playing this game quite a long time and everytime she said that her name was "Toni" when she acted like a cat.


Two days later she was playing with me, she showed me a monkey and she said "Toni". And I said, "Oh, his name is Toni!". Some hours later, when she was calm and ready to go to bed, I asked her: "Who is Toni?". And she sayed "Marta". And she was smiling so much...


It's strange to me that both talked about the same person at the same age... Always the name "Toni". I was so stonished this time!! Could it be that both of them have had a past in common?


Thanks for this forum. Although I don't have much time to participate, I read some posts time to time and they are so interesting and inspiring. Sorry for my mistakes, also. I learnt English at school and it was loooong time ago...


Best wishes!
 
Thank you, argonne1918!!


Yes, I think probably they shared a past. And I feel it was a positive one.
 
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