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Things right now are a real mess. I'm being given information by my source and have no ideas what most of it means, if it is relevant and most of it cannot be backed up by any recorded history of Ancient Egypt that I can find. For example.. My source told me the faces of the original physical gods the sun gods were never to be seen .

Of course not! Never! Very few people were allowed to look their "betters" in the eye. I would be surprised if you dared to steal a glance. The 18th dynasty was very hierarchal. I doubt society was much different in pre-history. This is from what is known nowadays as "The Amarna Letters," late 14th BCE.

"At the feet of the King my lord, my sun, my god, the breath of my life, I bowed down seven times seven times . . . [your servant] is exceedingly glad that the breath of the King my lord, my sun, my god has gone out to his slave and to the dust under his feet. Who is your servant but a dog? And they prostrate themselves before The Man of the Great House seven times and seven times both on back and belly."

And, they did, too. If I had time, I'd post pictures.

The chanters in the Great Temple to the Aten, by the way, were ALL BLIND. Just FYI . . .
 
Blueheart... Once again thanks... I had no idea about any of that, It does help in a time of great confusion for me
S&S..The statement..Another rebirth is not far away. Out of chaos a new world of balance and knowledge will emerge. Everyone will be given a choice, everyone, there is only the original gods the sun gods . The truth is the only way The warriors of the gods will lead the world out of chaos and into a new world of balance and knowledge, has to analysed in a non partisan and fair way
Everyone will be given a choice depends upon what that choice is.. for example if the choice is...Embrace the true god the sun gods. If you do all these things will change for you. There could possibly be real change shown to people.. But if you don't then you will remain what you are.. This could be seen as a choice from the gods
On the other hand a choice such as .. If you do not want to embrace the sun gods then you will go to your god... would be seen as a choice given by an extreme and violent group, and would be a form of jihad
Could the disciples be seen as warriors of god ? just as "the others" are
The warriors of the gods will lead the world out of chaos and into a new world of balance and knowledge and a rebirth, and (restart in time) could be connected to the same event... For example...
The only event I can think of that would a rebirth and restart in time would be the birth of a child of a god. Time would start again 1asg or something like that
The only way a child of a god can be born is by "the others" who have not returned home and were/are spiritually part of the gods. After such an event there would be a return to the truth, which would end the chaos and restore balance
When things settle down with my source I will try to give a more detailed reply. especially about "the others"
As I have said things are a real mess with my source right now. as he attempts to take all of this to another level
Things that I'm currently sorting through that he is talking about include... Its important to know some of those members of the tribes who joined spiritually with the gods were women.. He talks about a time and many things when the scholars can only guess what happened. .. For example.. Sometime after the
original gods left those members of the tribes who were joined spiritually to the gods rose to great power, influence and knowledge.. They themselves became physical gods . One of the women gods rose to great power and in fact became the most powerful of all of the physical gods. Both my spiritual self and source proudly refer to these times as "this was the time of the gods" and from this time of the gods everything came
There is so much more I'm attempting to sort through
 
Hi John,

I remain very interested, but will await your further comments after you have had a chance to assimilate what is coming through before trying to respond in any detail. However, I will say that the idea of the birth of a child starting a new age is a mirror image of the birth of the Christ. . . . Like I said: Interesting.

Cordially,
S&S
 
As I said my source is taking this to another level. I'm just beginning to understand and sort through the confusion and mess. I now understand I must try and adapt to this new way. The very very little I'm beginning to understand about a time in the history of Ancient Egypt the scholars can only guess what happened
is giving me great pause. Its nothing like I thought or expected or I have read and heard about
There are some things such as the following we do not have the knowledge and/or the abilities to understand
Very special women of the gods, the protectors and keepers of the secrets and the knowledge will reincarnate back to the physical. They will return from the south and the west and will be the physical mothers of the new physical gods...just as those women who came from the east and the south and were the physical mothers of the original gods the sun gods
 
Hi John,

Somewhere in the long line of posts on this subject, I recall bringing up the ancient legends of the Sons of Gods that "cohabited" with the daughters of men who then gave birth to the mighty ones of old--the Nephilim. The term Nephilim is generally translated "giant" but that is by no means subject to universal agreement. (There were later giants in Hebrew history who were referred to as nephilim, but the fact that giants may be referred to as nephilim does not, of course, prove that all nephilim were giants.)

Anyhow, here is a quick summary of the relevant verse from Genesis: "Genesis 6:1–2 relates that the "sons of gods," i.e., divine or angelic beings, took mortal wives; verse 4 continues, "It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared [lit., were] on earth–when the divine beings cohabited with the daughters of men, who bore them offspring. They were the heroes [Heb. gibborim] of old, the men of renown."

I'll see if I can get some additional insight into the term that is translated as "cohabited" here. I've come to appreciate the fact that translation of ancient terminology is often approximate, at best. So, this term may be broad enough to encompass the type of link you are speaking about, where mortal women entered into some type of relationship with higher beings allowing them to bear offspring that were very special. Your source seems to be telling you that such women somehow became the vessels by which these higher beings took on physical form, by being born to these women as their mothers. This is all very strange, but it almost sounds as if the call has gone out for these women to assemble (incarnate?) so that they can once again serve as physical mothers to these beings.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I do not wish to compare the two, but cannot help but point out that Mary was also a woman who was called upon to act as mother to, and vehicle for the incarnation of Jesus, Son of the Most High. Somehow, however, I do not think the situation is analogous. Most notably, in accordance with my beliefs, Jesus was a much higher being than those you speak of, and his source was not only higher, but the highest.

PPS--It bears mentioning that the Nephilim, in the plethora of legends that surround them (and are now being further embroidered in popular literature and conspiracy theories), are generally represented as being violent and negative entities, and enemies of the Most High. Maybe this is just bad press and negative spin, but . . . .
 
S&S Good to hear you got through the storm OK. I have never heard anything about what you talked about. As I said...I right now I have great pause about the little I understand about what I'm being shown.. It's nothing like I could have thought happened or imagined could have happened.. Right now and probably ongoing I don't want to talk about it.. I don't even know if I wish to pursue it with my spiritual self and source.. Although maybe I have no choice and this is something I must do. But I will never pass it on.. The real beginnings of Ancient Egypt are nothing like anything that is thought and written about by the scholars. What I find interesting about what you talked about is.... many things that are thought to be mystical and/or magical have repeated themselves in different cultures and different ways.. In this case human mothers connecting with something or someone and giving birth to special humans/gods.. As you say Mary is such a case.. This is how Ancient Egypt with all of its glory and knowledge began. My beginnings start with the original physical gods the sun gods who were human who's mothers were human and they came from the east and the south.. I wish I knew what that meant Did they come from two different locations the east and the south, or is there some powerful combinations of the east and the south we are not aware off? The same could be said about next time, when they will come from the south and the west, and why would there be difference?

Regards
 
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Hi John,

The concept of an "Avatar"--a divine being who becomes incarnate by being born to a human mother--is especially popular in Indian/Hindu philosophy/religion. So, that is a well known concept. (As a matter of fact, most Hindus accept that Jesus was an avatar, though Christians don't typically look at this as a repeated or repeatable phenomenon). A related concept is that of the demi-god, where a god has sexual relations with a human mother and a child with special powers and abilities is born. This was very popular with the ancient Greeks, and many of their great legendary heroes (like Hercules) were considered to have a divine father. I would not be surprised to find both of these types of legend popping up all over the world in various ancient mythologies. In fact, it was very common in ancient times for royal lines to claim that they had an ancient divine progenitor. (If I'm not mistaken, I think the Japanese may still claim this about the line of the Emperor).

There is, of course, quite a difference between these two. An avatar is the god himself/herself who is being born, whereas a demi-god is a physical daughter or son (who is generally thought to be generated in the usual way--via sexual relations). The ancient nephilim are usually considered to have been in something more like the demi-god category, though their fathers were powerful angelic beings rather than gods (in the usual sense of the latter term). However, I'm not so sure how they can be categorized, and there is plenty of controversy on the subject. (If you have time you may want to look up nephilim on Wikipedia--it is a very confused subject).

In terms of the South, East, etc., these may have either a figurative or a literal meaning (and perhaps both?). Different directions were considered to have symbolic meanings in many cultures, with the points of the compass being believed to have and embody certain characteristics. This is probably something Blueheart would know about in terms of ancient Egyptian culture.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

I tried to do a little research on the cardinal points in Ancient Egypt, and found some interesting things in terms of their symbolism and associations. First, they thought of the South in association with the head, beginnings, upper, upriver, and elevated. The North was associated with with feet, endings, lower, downward, downriver. The East was associated with birth, left, left hand. The West was associated with death, right, right hand. There's probably some other things in there, but I'm not Blueheart, and I'll have to let her fill in or correct. Anyhow, if I was to look at the associations/symbolism, I'd guess that the first beginning (SOUTH) was by the initial birth (EAST) of these maternal figures. The beginning (SOUTH) that is coming is from the (WEST) direction of death and the dead. Could this mean that these same mothers will reappear from the dead--i.e., be reborn in order to carry out their task? Just guessing of course. Likewise, maybe the physical directions have reference to coming from certain areas, but the meaning suggested seems to comport with what you are being told. BTW--Here is a website to reference in terms of the WEST: http://www.egyptianmyths.net/west.htm

Cordially,
S&S

PS--John, for my part I wish you could just stop for awhile and let this thing go. At least give yourself some additional time to think it through. I don't like the sound of what your source has in mind, and I especially don't like the sound of his statements that you can "never go home"--this just seems wrong to me.
 
Hi S&S Thanks for all of that research.. I did have some limited understandings of the significance of the West, but I had no understandings about of the South and East. I was and still are confused about it all. The combinations of East, South and West what does it all mean? Your conclusions are well researched and logical.. I do need guidance on this.
I listen to your advise and understand what you mean. But its not as easy as that.. I did say in my last post that I was questioning myself weather I should continue or not. I do get frightened by some things I'm shown I'm having great difficulties in separating John Tat from the real me, the pure spiritual me. Where does John Tat begin and end and where does my spiritual self begin?. That probably sounds crazy but that how it is. As I have said recently its all a mess right now. I don't even understand why John Tat needs to know anything about any of this.
It must have something to do with next time, when events will unfold in the physical guided by physical entities. Those physical entities will be fully aware of what is going on just as John Tat has some understandings now. But the same as John Tat, they will all die never to return. Physical death will not be an issue for them.
Make no mistake Ancient Egypt had its real beginnings in ways and at a time that could never be imagined. I'm just beginning to form some understandings of a fraction of what I have been shown
All cycles have a beginning and an end.

Regards
 
Make no mistake Ancient Egypt had its real beginnings in ways and at a time that could never be imagined. I'm just beginning to form some understandings of a fraction of what I have been shown
All cycles have a beginning and an end.

Regards

There was a very high civilization going on before the most recent ice age.

The real beginnings of Ancient Egypt are nothing like anything that is thought and written about by the scholars.

As I understand it Ancient Egypt was one of only a few cultures that kept some of the knowledge of that, after the great catastrophes that occurred. Fragments of knowledge lingered, and still do to this day in other places, such as the Americas, in legend and oral history and such.

All very interesting.
 
There is, of course, quite a difference between these two. An avatar is the god himself/herself who is being born, whereas a demi-god is a physical daughter or son (who is generally thought to be generated in the usual way--via sexual relations). The ancient nephilim are usually considered to have been in something more like the demi-god category, though their fathers were powerful angelic beings rather than gods (in the usual sense of the latter term). However, I'm not so sure how they can be categorized, and there is plenty of controversy on the subject. (If you have time you may want to look up nephilim on Wikipedia--it is a very confused subject).

There was definitely a great catastrophe in ancient times, or a series of them, and a lot of information has been lost. A lot of the 'fireside' stories that were told about various gods and goddesses, tales and legends of miraculous exploits and so on, could be compared to fairy stories, the 'facebook and twitter' of the day if you like. A lot was misremembered and retold so that things got blurred. But, somewhere in all those stories are the grains of truth of what went on.

Just my thoughts on it.
 
Hi Tang,

Actually, the old traditional interpretations of the verses mentioned are not favored anymore by liberal Christian scholars, nor by (I think) the vast majority of conservative Christian scholars, though they continue to be adhered to by traditionalists and among a lot of the general population. I think the better interpretation, which is in keeping with the ambiguous nature of the Hebrew term "elohim" is that these junctures were between the mighty (nobles) and any women they chose to take to themselves (which has happened a lot throughout history), and that the Nephilim were not necessarily the product of this juncture but a separately existing phenomenon. I think there are similar divisions among Jewish scholars, but leave that to Isha to explain. Isha can also make a better exposition of the more modern viewpoint if she wishes to do so, which I have also heard pastorally expounded in the past. However, the traditional interpretation seemed to fit better with what John was talking about, so that is why I brought it up. It should be taken with a grain (or pound) of salt.

Actually, I have come to think what John is talking about fits best with the oriental concepts of avatars, though my understanding of this doctrine is that it refers to the manifestation of divinities or of very advanced substantially "divinized" spiritual entities, who come in the flesh to help mankind. Actually, I have a hard time placing what John is talking about in this context, as it seems to have a very different quality or feeling about it. I don't like to continue to use the term, but there does seem to be a hint of jihad there. Also, the whole thing seems wrapped in a permanent exile for John, which also seems to be alien to the types of messages of hope that come from the highest beings. Often there is judgment involved in such messages, but ultimately great and glowing hope!

BTW--I agree completely with the idea that Ancient Egypt was a legacy civilization and is derived from something much older, and may (at its beginnings) even have been a direct continuation of something much older. Hence, I have no problem with John's ideas that the things he is learning about go back much farther than current chronologies.

Hi John,

Some of my response to you is set forth in my comments to Tanguerra above. However, I also think you tangle yourself up too much and create too much of a difference between the "physical John Tat" and the real spiritual you. The division is real, and yet it is not. You, like I, are a spiritual being. As you note, as spiritual beings we are immortal, neither being born nor dying with the body except to the extent we identify with and mistake ourselves for the body we inhabit. Every time we incarnate we take on a new physical identity, with our knowledge of reality being filtered by a physical apparatus, our sense of identity shaped by its physical nature and bodily connections, and our real identity largely forgotten (a temporary amnesia). Nonetheless, though filtered and attenuated, the real you is operating as John Tat at this moment. However, the real you is too large to "fit" in this framework, just as my whole body cannot fit into a glove. This allows for the part of you (as a spiritual being) that is submerged in physicality to communicate with the part of you that is not submerged in physicality (and hence operating with more knowledge of the spiritual universe) as if you were two separate beings.

We are not two separate beings. We are merely suffering from a type of spiritual schizophrenia brought about by our conjunction with a physical body. Soon you will leave the temporary body/vehicle you used to operate in the physical world behind, and be an undivided spirit again, remembering your operations as John Tat a great deal better than you currently remember (to some small degree now) your life/death as a pilot in WWII. These two identities are temporary, like roles in a play, but your REAL IDENTITY as a spiritual being acting through these identities like roles in a play is not going to die. You are continually moving forward and gaining new experiences and memories as a spirit. But that is enough for now. You, the real you, is not going to die when John Tat dies anymore than the real me is going to die when my current physical identity dies.

However, one way or another, we have to deal with the consequences of our actions in the physical, if only to know that we have done right or wrong, and harmed or helped. As immortal beings we cannot escape having to be aware of them, except perhaps to cast ourselves into amnesia and another body. Also, though I do not completely understand it, I am concerned about the concept of exile you have voiced. It does seem that there are some spirits that are banned from reincarnation and do not "return home" either. Whether their exile from our true spiritual home is self-imposed or not, it seems that they are stuck. It is not a fate I would wish on anyone, though I can see how it might happen or become necessary.

Cordially,
S&S
 
That is a pretty good summation, S&S. I would only question the "beginnings" and "endings" part. Here is a fun fact for you. In ancient Egypt, maps showed south as "up". This is a little hard for North Americans to wrap their heads around, but when you think of what they saw in terms of the Nile, it makes perfect sense. The Nile inundation came from upriver, from the South. The flood was greatly anticipated every year, and could - quite literally - mean the difference between life and death. So, in that respect the South / flood was the beginning and the North / the Delta, where the water flowed into the Great Green Sea (as they called it. I love that!) was the ending.

However, there was, as you noted, another direction of "beginning" - the east, the sunrise, birth, etc. And of "ending" - the west, sunset, death. Horemakhet, also known as Horus in the Horizon, may be of interest to John, if for no other reason than he was connected with the Sphinx and the sunrise. There is also Ra-Harakhte, who is associated with both sunrise and sunset. He is born at sunrise and travels with the sun across the sky during the day, only to "die" and pass into the underworld. After his nightly journey, he is reborn again with the next dawn. Nice reincarnation association, don't you think?

Anyway, I do not see how any of the above will help John Tat very much. All I can do is offer my opinion . . .

I really think that the jihad language is taking things way too far. I do not read that into it, at all. His source / guide strikes me as someone who's last incarnation was as an Egyptian a long, long time ago. He communicates just like one and can not translate that into modern slang very well. Chaos, balance, truth, sun gods; these are all part of the lexicon from back then, and nothing to be afraid of.

I honestly believe that what his source is doing has nothing to do with you or me. It is about John Tat and John Tat's next life, which his source now has high hopes for. His source is trying to get the band back together again, so to speak. This is something that none of them thought possible before, because John Tat had taken such a turn in his incarnations that he had shut off his intuition, stopped believing in life-after-death, cut them all out of his life / lives, and was unable to be reached - by dreams, signs, or what-have-you. Now that they are "taking it to the next level," things may be different for him. He has a chance to get back on track with the others, with those whom he learns/loves/lives with best. Of course, he may find, like a lot of us do, that even when the old warriors of the gods are reunited in a future life, "you can never go home again." Surely, you have heard of this saying? Anyway, that is my take on it. Of course, I may be way off the mark.
 
Blueheart...Once again you understand and communicate what is happening much better than I... It's interesting that the scholars of Ancient Egypt appear to be set in there ways. I don't really know but it feels like that to me.. They talk about times with the confidence that could only exist if they were there.. How could they possibly except something like... As I have said before.. the physical gods of the tribes of Egypt who were some of the members of the tribes who became the children of the original gods the sun gods after spiritually joining with them who then themselves became physical gods after the original gods left. One of the women gods rose to be the most powerfully of all of the physical god, who later had two children fathered by a powerful physical god and those two children became very powerful and special gods in Upper and Lower Egypt, and this was the beginnings of the lineages of the gods of Ancient Egypt connecting back to the original gods the sun gods who spiritually joined with the members of the tribes. The scholars would never except things like that

Regards
 
What Blueheart said. S&S, the jihad element is something I, too, don't see in John's statements. I can understand how you read it that way given modern reinterpretation of historic references, but the problem is that the modern take on such language is ... modern. The old interpretations were more in alignment with the cyclical and natural patterns of everything in life-death. When you think about it, the tangible world is built on the necessity of endings to fuel new beginnings.
 
I just happened upon this thread and want to comment upon the original post. I myself also do not read any books about reincarnation. All information I attain comes from my own self and experiences. It's a personal, spiritual journey I take upon myself and no reading of any books interests me. Although I've often been told to write my own, I see no point. At most, I read Vedic scripture pertaining to rebirth and I have never had the desire to read any book published by an author who claims to have all the answers. I've yet to come across many, let alone any who have this same mindset except one who I'm close to in person. For that reason, I find this original post intriguing.

I also add, I'm quite out of the loop for this thread's conversation, however I'm wanting to dive in with my own perceptions and opinions.
 
Hi Blueheart,

You and others may be correct that a jihad is not part of the plan, though I'm not sure what is intended from the descriptions given. (I'm not sure John is 100% sure either at this point, though he's continuing to work at it). However, after examining your idea of what it means to "go home" I believe I must stay with my prior interpretation. I don't think John has ever thought that he was going to get a chance to go back to Ancient Egypt (in fact, the whole goal of what is happening seems to be a plan to restore the best of Ancient Egypt that has been lost in the present day). But more importantly, the "not going home" was presented to John in the context (if I am recalling correctly) of others who had "gone home" already. So, I take the idea of "going home" to be a real possibility, not just a nostalgia laden longing for the past. It is best summed up in a quote that Tanguerra put up and I previously responded to about "Old Souls"--and John definitely would seem to be an Old Soul at this point:

"The phrase 'Old Soul' is the closest many can come to describing those who
feel like they have seen and done it all before, who can see through the lies and illusions
of existence, and experience a tired longing to 'return home'."
-Aletheia Luna, Old Souls


This isn't me all the time, but there are many days when I can say "ditto". There may be some who don't believe that this "home" exists, but I certainly do.

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S I have no idea When I have asked both my spiritual self and source I was shown an ankh without the cross, and the women in the red dress again with the image in gold of a lioness head on both of her gold arm bands. I have been shown this women many times . I don't know what these both mean and who the women is. The only reference I have are the lion and the lioness the original gods the sun gods left with the tribes before they left.. This was a significant event but the significance of lions has been lost over time

Regards
 
John,

When you say an Ankh without the cross, do you mean that it has the vertical bar but not the horizontal bar?

The woman you see, I assume she is the one you are fighting for rather than against? She makes me think of Sekhmet, who we discussed earlier in this thread. Perhaps the great queen or female you have been speaking about was the origin of the Sekhmet story/myths. According to Wikipedia: Sekhmet also spelled Sakhmet, Sekhet, or Sakhet, among other spellings (means "the powerful one") is a warrior goddess as well as goddess of healing. She is depicted as a lioness, the fiercest hunter known to the Egyptians. It was said that her breath formed the desert. She was seen as the protector of the pharaohs and led them in warfare.

S&S
 
More on Sekhmet:

"She is often represented as a woman wearing a red dress with the head of a lioness wearing a sun disc circled by a cobra on her head. She often holds the ankh – the symbol of life, when seated. When standing or striding, she is seen holding the papyrus specter symbolizing Lower Egypt. However, some scholars believe that she was a deity introduced to Egypt from Sudan because lions are plenty in that area.

As a sun goddess, she is connected with the scorching, searing and burning heat of the sun. In this aspect, she was known by another name, Nesert that literally means flame. This sealed her fate as a terrifying goddess. Her title as the Red Lady associated her with desert where the heat of the sun reigns.

She is associated with another feline and leonine goddess, Bastet. Sekhmet is known as Goddess of the West wearing red and Bastet is named the Goddess of the East dressed in green."

From another site:

"Sekhmet was represented by the searing heat of the mid-day sun (in this aspect she was sometimes called "Nesert", the flame) and was a terrifying goddess. However, for her friends she could avert plague and cure disease. She was the patron of Physicians, and Healers and her priests became known as skilled doctors. As a result, the fearsome deity sometimes called the "lady of terror" was also known as "lady of life". Sekhmet was mentioned a number of times in the spells of The Book of the Dead as both a creative and destructive force, but above all, she is the protector of Ma'at (balance or justice) named "The One Who Loves Ma'at and Who Detests Evil"."
 
Hi S&S There was no horizontal bar.. So obviously it is not the ankh... I have no idea what it is
As far as the woman is concerned.... I have given up trying to guess what these types of things are and mean.. On the occasions I did finally discover who and/or what they were my original guess was wrong almost every time, so there is no point in me guessing
I speculate but I never reach any real conclusions... There is a big difference in what I believe to be true and speculation about something I don't understand
So lets speculate about who the women in the red dress may be?
She may be one of the special women of the gods who will reincarnate back to the physical from the south and west
She may be one of "the others"
She may be the women god who became the most powerful of all of the physical gods after the original gods the sun gods left, and had two children fathered by a physical god and those two children then became two very powerful and special gods in Upper and Lower Egypt
She may be a wife I had in one of my incarnations into Upper and Lower Egypt and later into a unified Egypt
She may be one of my physical mothers from Ancient Egypt
She may be a physical sister I had during one of my incarnations
She may be as you suggested the physical beginnings of Sekhmet
These are just a few of many options of who she may be.... This is a good example of what I'm dealing with
A part of my speculations is considering some facts I believe to be true... With the women in the red dress... Firstly I have only seen her as physical women living in the physical... The lioness is important.....She is connected to me in ways I do not understand.....Almost every time I ask about next time she is shown to me...... In the end it may turn out she is only important to me and all of the speculations of grand things are a waste of time

Regards
 
Hi John,

In terms of the symbol you saw, the closest I found looking over Egyptian hieroglyphs was the symbol for the mace, an implement of war that was used in earliest Egypt and continued to have significance as an emblem of royal power long after it had been superseded by more effective weapons. You may want to check out the following:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Mace_(hieroglyph)

As you can see from the foregoing, it was often combined with other symbols as a part of more complex hieroglyphs. The following is also interesting, as it seems that the ritual mace was used as part of religious ceremonies:

"The HEDJ or Ritual Mace, associated with the act of smiting an enemy, has been represented numerous times. It is a potent symbol of power and protection against negativity. Egyptian rituals (except for festivals and other public ceremonies) were private and very well protected. The most sacred of ceremonies (the Morning Ritual, involving meeting the deity "face to face" and offering it Maat, truth & justice), took place in the "naos" in the darkest part of the temple, and could only be performed by the king or his representative (the officiating high priest)."

Here is an example of the use of the mace as a symbol of conquest by a pharoah:

"The ames,
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, like other maces such as the hedj,
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, was a weapon, but, with the passing of time, it was replaced by more effective arms. As a symbol of royal might it invested the king with the air of invincibility, crushing all his enemies. Thutmose III boasted It was my mace which felled the Asiatics, it was my Ames sceptre that struck the Nine Bows."

I don't know if the mace hieroglyph is what you saw, but if it was, the foregoing may be of interest.

Cordially,
S&S

BTW--Thutmose III also referred to himself as the "Son of Sekhmet" in one quote I read. All interesting, but possibly irrelevant. We need Blueheart to chime in here about now.
 
Hi John,

More to think/meditate on.

First, just to reference back a bit, if that was the mace hieroglyph you saw in reference to the woman in the red dress, I think you have to look at two things together: (1) the red dress and the lion head armbands--which point back to Akhmet who was usually shown with a lion's head and a red dress, and (2) the mace, which was a symbol of the highest royal/priestly power. Both point to a very highly placed person IMO, one who was in some way associated with Akhmet, though I can't say how she fits into the many possibilities you have put down. However, for some reason I think some of the roles you have put down will turn out to be combined in one person and that she may have been that person. This also connects to the fact that you in particular seem to be very important and critical to what is going on and is planned. So, I'm wondering whether you had a specific connection to her as a person of power--another subject for meditation.

Second, I've found something that may be, at least, a possible reference to the early tribes you have spoken about. A recent archeological discovery has uncovered evidence of advanced tribes in upper Egypt well before anyone else of that type is know to have been there at a place known as Nabta Playa. Here are some good introductory articles: http://www.ancient-origins.net/anci...-and-ancient-astronomers-nubian-desert-002954, and http://www.crystalinks.com/nabtaplayastonecircle.html

Brophy, the astrophysicist who became fascinated with the site and proposed that a visitation of extra-galactic visitors had taken place (and I suppose resulted in not only the galactic map discussed and the great advance of the tribesmen in question) wrote a book which is apparently highly technical, but difficult to read and is cited in the various articles. Some additional sites worth checking out are: http://www.archaeologyexpert.co.uk/nabtaplayaegypt.html, http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/egyptnabta.htm, and (of course) the Wikipedia article on the site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabta_Playa#Religious_ties_to_ancient_Egypt

As might be expected, the most recent researchers are a good deal more conservative than Brophy, while acknowledging some good work on his part. That is usually the way it is, and I won't complain. Its the job of scientists to be a bit critical, even though I notice that anything that pushes back the age of human civilization or humankind is always attacked, as are any propositions that involve ETs, spiritual matters, etc. So, there is probably also a bit of prejudice at work (especially as Brophy's theories both push back the age of human civilization and postulate some type of extra-terrestrial visitors). However, the current accepted position (which may be wrong) as stated in Wikipedia is as follows:

"[A more recent report] criticised suggestions made by Brophy in his book The Origin Map that there was a representation of the Milky Way as it was in 17,500 BC and maps of Orion at 16500 BC, saying "These extremely early dates as well as the proposition that the nomads had contact with extra galactic aliens are inconsistent with the archaeological record. Inference in archaeoastronomy must always be guided and informed by archaeology, especially when substantial field work has been performed in the region.[9]


They propose that the area was first used as what they call a 'regional ceremonial centre' around 6100 to 5600 BC with people coming from various locations to gather on the dunes surrounding the playa where there is archaeological evidence for gatherings which involved large numbers of cattle bones, as cattle were normally only killed on important occasions. Around 5500 BC a new, more organised group began to use the site, burying cattle in clay-lined chambers and building other tumuli. Around 4800 BC a stone circle was constructed, with narrow slabs approximately aligned with the summer solstice, near the beginning of the rainy season.

More complex structures followed during a megalith period the researchers dated to between about 4500 BC to 3600 BC. Using their original measurements and measurements by satellite and GPS measurements by Brophy and Rosen they confirmed possible alignments with Sirius, Arcturus, Alpha Centauri and the Belt of Orion."


So, however you look at things, this site and accompanying culture appear to pre-date the beginnings of recognized Egyptian history. And, if I'm reading the more conservative quote and evaluation of the site correctly, it indicates a cultural beginning about 3000 years before the usual starting dates given for ancient Egypt, with important cultural innovations beginning about 2500 years earlier than ancient Egypt. OTOH, if I'm understanding some of the other articles and what Brophy is implying correctly, we may be talking about things that are even 10,000 years older than these estimates! Whether these very old diagrams reflect the date that things took place at the site or are merely a record of information known to Brophy's postulated extra-galactic visitors (and possibly reflect their ancient origins) is open to question. So, overall very interesting and challenging stuff. Have a look and a think on these things and see if they resonate at all.

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S Thanks so much for all of the above....Its given me lots to work on, and will take plenty of time.. To give an indication of how long it can take. It has taken from Tuesday to yesterday to research the hieroglyphs of the mace.. There was no need to meditate on it because I have vivid memories of what I was shown, I just needed to be sure that what I was shown was the mace... There is little doubt it was the hieroglyphs of the mace, I can find nothing else that it may be. That's how sure I have to be before I accept what something or someone is.
Something that may be of interest.. I wondered where I, my spiritual self would get the abilities to do what needs to be done next time.. I think all of us on a physical level would wonder if we had the abilities to do something that is required of us, when we don't even know exactly what that is.. For me spiritually that was no different.. After plenty of work over four mediations I was told the following
BB (as you know that is what my source calls my spiritual self) You already have all of the knowledge and skills within you to do anything and whatever is required of you. These skills and knowledge were given to you long ago by the gods. You are in no need of any other skills
That got me thinking.. Does everyone's spiritual self have within them all of the skills and abilities to do almost anything but are restricted by evolution and the abilities of the physical entity to use them.
This all fits in with my journey as BB becomes more and more physical

Regards
 
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S&S The first thing that stuck me with were you referred me to was the circle All of these images I have posted before but they were lost during the upgrades.. Over time I have been shown circles and/or disks The first was the what the original gods the sun gods were wearing when they arrived and the disk they were wearing on their chest. The second was the circular disk used by Ancient Egyptians to build the pyramids. Circles and/or disks must have been very important. Both are not completely accurate but its the best I could do. The mound of creation is shown as a disk. You have given me plenty of work

Regards
 
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There is little doubt it was the hieroglyphs of the mace, I can find nothing else that it may be.

Quickly, then. Oct. is busy for us.

Have you looked at the sistrum? It is a percussion instrument - a rattle - largely used by women to honor the gods. It is shaped as a loop with a wooden handle. Also, the menit / menat, which is related to the sistrum. It is a counterpoise to a beaded necklace that looks like a keyhole.

Additionally, Kings would offer to the gods or carry folds of cloth in their hands. When they held it, it would be a loop sticking up, with the rest of the sash-part streaming down. They also tied their sashes with a loop sticking up in this manner. The actual meaning they attributed to the shape is lost, but probably had to do with protection and the eternal, (think of infinity) much like the ankh would be used as an amulet.

For similar shapes, take a look at the tyet and the sa loop.

It would probably be more helpful to you, though, if you asked yourself if the woman in red reminds you of anyone you know or have known. (You used to say red and white dress. That has changed, by the way.) Not so much in how she looks, but in how she feels to you . . . Does she resemble anyone?
 
Blueheart.... Thanks once again.. Now I'm really confused about the ankh without the horizontal cross bar...As I have said this is how it is a lot of the time.. About the women your right. Its interesting I did see her in red dress with some white in it, but since my source guided me , he now shows her to me only in a red dress. That's all that change a small mount of white was taken from the dress.. In reality I don't know if I see things more clearly over time as I understand more or if they change a little.. As happens I'm not left feeling 100% certain.. Could there have been two different women? The symbol without the horizontal cross bar is very important to me.. There is connection between the symbol BB and the women... I think John Tat should step back and let it all happen between my spiritual self and source.. Just be an observer.
 
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