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Hi John,

In response to what I think is your query about whether I am having problems in my spiritual life, I’d say yes and no. To explain what I mean I have to first explain what I consider to be the “life of faith”. To me, this has 3 main parts: (1) direct encounter/communion/ relationship with the divine; (2) the life encompassing impact in living out, assimilating and acting in accordance with (1); and (3) our understanding of what is going on. So, in response to your query, I would say that (1) is unchanged for me. I still have my same love, faith, etc. in/for the divine I have encountered in various ways (most of which you would refer to as “mystical”) in my life. As to (2), it is always a challenge to know what to do with (1). In a general sense, I think that the prophet Micah put it best: “He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” That is very good advice in a general sense, even though it can often be hard to live it (even when I want to). However, there is also the issue of specific goals and missions that may exist for me. (I’ll not quote scripture on that, but it is also an issue—what is it, and am I willing/able to do it?). So, to summarize so far: (1) is doing fine and (2) is always an issue and a challenge, so not that much different there. The real problem is with (3)—understanding what is going on!

Understanding what is going on, no matter what religion is being discussed, mostly comes under the general rubric of “theology”—and there are a variety of subdivisions in Christianity to this study/understanding. Two of these subdivisions are Eschatology (the study of “last things”) and Soteriology (the study of “salvation”). Twenty years ago I thought I had these things pretty well understood, though I did have some discomfort on certain fronts. However, various problems had arisen for me over a period of time making me less and less sure that Christian theology was, in these two areas, correct and correctly reflective of the scriptural witness (and what my own heart/spirit) told me about God. Then I got hit unexpectedly by my own putative PL memories, etc., do some study making me aware of the current status of modern scientific reincarnation research, and get thrown even more out of whack in terms of “understanding” what is going on. So, I can safely say that my theology/understanding of what is going on is a bit of a mess right now in these two areas. This is what I spend a lot of time trying to resolve.

Anyhow, I think you and I line up in certain categories and diverge in others. On (1), your relationship with the divine was tangible/physical and took place a very long time ago, but you remain faithful to it. Mine has been more recent, intangible and mystical, but I likewise seek to remain faithful to it. On (2), we both have to struggle to know what (1) requires in terms of our actions and to do it (though once again my struggle has to do more with the present life, whereas yours seems to have more to do with what you are to do in your next lifetime). On (3), we’re both currently struggling to understand what is going on. You are looking primarily to “mystical” sources for your understanding and only very secondarily to historical or written sources. I am doing the opposite, but I think that I am going to have to start striving harder on the “mystical” side of my faith if I’m going to really advance my understanding.

Overall, we’re on somewhat parallel paths, but I can’t say whether our paths will meet or diverge further down the road. I hope they will meet, but that could only happen from my standpoint if we somehow can find that the sun gods that you worship are somehow aligned with the one God that I worship. From your standpoint, I guess you would put it the opposite way.

Cordially,
S&S

PS--I have only responded to your query about my faith, but I am totally intrigued by the things you have alluded to in the remainder of your post, especially what you have said about separate destinations/endings for different spirits, etc.
 
Hi Deborah,

I think that it would be an excellent idea to start a new thread on these light/color issues and to incorporate copies of some of the things that have just come out on this thread.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

Something else went through my mind a few days ago. You mentioned recently that when the sun gods came there were two suns in the sky. For some reason I had never put this together with what Kenj has said numerous times--that his only putative past life memory was one of a sky with two suns. If I'm recalling correctly, Ken was saying this long before you even discovered your relationship to the sun gods, or remembered the two suns. For some reason I never put these two together, and Ken doesn't seem to have done so either. I've been thinking that he must have had a life in another star system with two suns. Then, a few days ago, I started to wonder whether this is a memory that goes back to what you are talking about. Perhaps this is all he retains about this occurrence. Perhaps he was just a child at the time, who knows. Then I started thinking about Deborah's memories from Ancient Egypt, then Blueheart's possible relationship to what is going on. Hmmm. I wonder if at least some of the group you are supposed to get together with in your next lifetime is already gathering---right here on this board. Perhaps you should ask your source about that.

Cordially,
S&S
 
S&S, I can not offer anything more about this than what I have said, it was only a strong deja vu experience. Strong enough that I reported it to someone in my household; I know within 20 feet of where I was standing when I saw it but do not know exactly how old I was at the time. I had to be four or more years old to have been at that location, but from there on I can't be sure about things.
Like you, I thought that that memory was "other worldly", however, after reading "Worlds in Collision", there are several other possibilities. I find it strange and exciting to feel the deeper "knowing" about something I read - being familiar with that experience first-hand. I did feel that some of what I read in "Initiation" was familiar although the description of lions pulling chariots was unexpected.
 
Hi S&S If you remember what I said happened.. A second sun appeared in he sky and from the second sun the sun gods appeared.. After they left the second sun was gone..It is nothing like what you think, the sun gods were born to mothers from the east and south.. where they came from and here are both the same, both places are the same... that has always had me wondering...But it in a round about way it is what Ancient Egyptians also believed... they (we) believed they were going to a physical place the same as where they came from.... here.. Over and over again what I have been told has some form of connections to what is already known, but not the same... if you can understand that. You were honest about yourself, which was very interesting to me with what is going on with you... thanks for that

Regards
 
Hi Ken,

What you have said makes me wonder all the more whether you were also there in the period of two suns in ancient Egypt. You remember a sky with two suns and have been talking about it since you first came on the board. (I looked up what looks like your first post from 2014). You also seem to find some resonances with things you have read about ancient Egyptian initiatory practices. The "two suns" thing is so unusual, it seems like evidence enough by itself. So, like I said--you, John, maybe Deborah, and possibly Blueheart and others--all here on this board at the same time. Maybe a coincidence, but maybe there is a purpose.

With you this is even more of an issue than the others. You are the only one who was, based on what you have remembered, probably there in ancient Egypt during the period that John talks about. Very interesting.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

As noted, very interested in what is going on not just with you, but with Ken, and whether there is a connection. Also, very interested in what I mentioned in my last P.S. above.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi Deborah I just wanted to talk about your vision of the lions head on top of the pyramid .. Being strongly connected to the sun at the apex over the pyramid I think is a clear indication of what the vision was to you especially when the symbol of the sun gods are lions. Its interesting from both our perspectives that while I was mediating my source told me to find such an image. I'm sure it was meant for you..I read everything you post trying to figure out where you are spiritually, now I'm more interested because of the help I got from my source..I may be wrong but it appears to me you are no longer spiritually fully Egyptian
Your spiritual self has obviously changed and moved on... Don't get me wrong that is a good thing not a bad thing, but it's not Ancient Egyptian..I may be wrong, because how could I possibly know where you are spiritually, it can only be speculation on my part. This has connections to what I was talking about, our spiritual selves not being clones, we have different outcomes.. I wonder why my source wanted you to see that image?

Regards
 
Hi S&S I have been thinking about your theory of the two suns, and Me, Ken, Deborah and Blueheart.. If you understood the maze of complicities that would have to all line up and then fall into place for that to be even a remote possibility then you would understand its impossible... I don't think seeing visions of two suns and also two moons is not what you would describe as rare... I think what the light is and what it does and if the light comes to us or we go to the light and how we can use the light is what is important here..The original and only true gods the sun gods came to us from the light of the second sun. The light of the second sun came to us, but those of us who were there also went to the light when it arrived, but only one of these can be right

Regards
 
Hi S&S The other day when I read my reply to your question it appeared I was not giving it the credit it deserved. It was a legitimate question considering all of the circumstances that existed... I'm sorry for that
There are times when I find it difficult to find the words to properly express myself, mostly because I do not understand the proper relevance of the words I'm using in the context I'm using them.
It's also difficult because I, John Tat has no knowledge of any of the physical entities my pure spiritual self occupied in Ancient Egypt. If I did know even a couple of them it would help greatly in giving things more context.. The only memory I have of who my spiritual self occupied was a member of the tribes the original and only true gods the sun gods came to.. After that there is nothing. There are only memories of events and places. I sometimes wonder if there was only ever one physical entity. In other words I always reincarnated back as the same physical entity.. I know that sounds crazy, but at least it's some form of explanation.
The following is important and has relevance to your question.. I thought about it for a long time so I could explain it as best I could
The physical entity is not born with any spiritual knowledge and skills. Spiritual knowledge and skills are a completely different ball game to memories of physical incarnations. It's my belief only spiritual selves who have come from Ancient Egypt, who developed skills during those incarnations that allows them when required to pass onto the physical entity real and tangible, but basic and limited spiritual knowledge and skills.. It's the only way they can have direct influence in the physical.. There are no physical places for these physical entities to learn these skills and knowledge... They just know.. There are no explanations they can give.. One of the outcomes is, not giving the proper considerations to legitimate questions when the answers are far to complicated to explain.

Regards
 
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Hi John,

Regarding reincarnating as the same physical entity--this brings two things to mind for me.

First, the biofield theory broached by Stevenson, a principle reincarnation researcher. The idea here is that we have an associated biofield of some type that travels with us and affects subsequent lives. For example, this biofield supposedly contains information about appearance and injuries. For Stevenson it was the source of birthmarks related to PL injuries, especially fatal injuries. It also may be what tends to try to shape subsequent incarnations so that we physically resemble what we looked like in the past. One of the most remarkable cases of such resemblance is written about in these websites: http://www.iisis.net/index.php?page=semkiw-reincarnation-jeff-keene-past-life-lives&hl=en_US; and http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/cases/john-gordon-and-jeffrey-keene.html. Of course, genetics would probably have to be fairly similar as well for the closest resemblance, but in what was probably an ethnically homogenous society in ancient Egypt, this would probably be true.

Second, societal and personal recognition. There are some societies in the Far East where a sage or ruler is supposedly continuously reincarnated and re-assumes the same post. The Dalai Lama is one example. After one dies, psychic sages supposedly relocate him re-born so that he can re-assume his post. Likewise, PL memory is supposedly one of the things that the initiates of ancient Egypt were trained to retain. So, if your body looks much the same, you remember who you are, and everyone around you recognizes you as "BB" reborn, who can say that you are not continuing on as yourself (BB) without the troublesome (or liberating) changes of identity (and loss of memory) that we currently associate with reincarnation?

Cordially,
S&S

PS--BTW, I'm thinking that the "biofield" hypothesized by Stevenson may be the same thing you refer to as "soul"--a source of energy/patterns for the physical that travels with us from life to life.
 
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I have been thinking about your theory of the two suns, and Me, Ken, Deborah and Blueheart.. If you understood the maze of complicities that would have to all line up and then fall into place for that to be even a remote possibility then you would understand its impossible...
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Some random thoughts about this idea:

"They" deal in mazes of complexities - All. The. Time. Improbability happens.

And, we have not met. Not really. It is only possible through the magic of the internet. You would pass right by me on the street and we would never know.

For "same physical incarnation" ask your source about Mirror Lives.

For SeaAndSky . . . You are forgetting someone, don't you think? <ahem> Theosophist. *cough, cough* Ancient Egypt *cough, cough*

Honestly, I think it would be highly unusual for someone to NOT have had a past life in Ancient Egypt. It was a (mostly) stable civilization that lasted for thousands of years. Sheer statistics would argue we were all there, at least once.
 
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Hi Blueheart Thanks once again... Mirror Lives... I'm not sure what that is ..does it mean two people are living the same life.... or does it mean we are living a life over again.... I googled the term and got noting of any substance.. I need to know exactly what it means to have any hope of understanding any response I may get
You know.......As things progress John Tat understands more and more he is nothing like BB his spiritual self...We are very different entities.. Sometimes John Tat does not even like BB
So much for the theory that the spiritual and physical are one
As I have said... its extremely difficult for John Tat to talk about things that challenge traditional beliefs..... that is when I do not like BB all that much


Regards
 
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Hi Blueheart,

You are almost certainly right. I may well have some contacts (or PLs) related to ancient Egypt. However, there is somehow something negative associated with it in my mind. Nothing I can put my finger on. So, it may just be bleed over from negative portrayals of Egypt in the old movie epics I watched as a kid. However, I can be objectively admiring and at the same time just not like the idea of having been there myself very much. Unfortunately, though hard to shake, I have no real explanation (or excuse).

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,

I don't think you should worry so much about whether you challenge traditional beliefs by what you receive from BB. To begin with, it would be hard to accuse very many people on this board of holding "traditional" religious beliefs anyway. I'm not sure that you can find anyone here that is a hard-core traditional Buddhist, Hindu, Christian, etc. though some may stick closer to one or another of these than others. And, you have as much right to insist vehemently that you are correct as anyone else on the board (though its always nice to be polite about it). Finally, you're probably closer to most other people on the board (i.e., more "traditional") now that you believe in something divine than you were when you were a hard-core atheist. So, cheer up. Everyone is interested in what you have to say. OTOH, you're mostly dealing with very strong minded people who have their own opinions and will not be easily shaken in terms of what they believe by what you're saying. So, feel free to speak and don't worry about whether you're upsetting anyone. People have to be pretty thick-skinned to live in the modern world--the best any of us can usually ask for is that the people who disagree with us are polite about doing so.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S As you are aware in the past I never shirked an issue... I always approached it head on
But now things are different
BB my spiritual self returning to his spiritual roots has played a big role in how I now approach things
I try not to be like BB and my source.... They are arrogant, demanding and self centered.... It's a strange feeling because John Tat is also BB.... but as I have said before he is a completely different entity to John Tat.... I'm sure if others understood there spiritual selves as I do... they would also discover there spiritual self is very different to them... the physical entity.. now I have lived it .... I understand and it makes sense to me... they have to be different to each other because of who they both are.
Not wanting to challenge beliefs takes many forms... its very complicated ..... for example
When I'm meditating there are times BB and my source talk about things in great detail which are beyond mine and I'm sure most peoples imaginations.... Ancient Egyptians must have been far more advanced than anyone could know
They talk in great detail about how to travel within the light..... none of it makes any sense to me
They talk in great detail about returning to the sun, which to me is impossible..... none of it makes any sense to me
They talk in great detail about the physical mothers of the gods.... they are extremely important to both the past and the future.... some I understand most I do not
They talk in great detail about the tens of thousands of powerful spiritual entities from Ancient Egypt caught up in cycles of never ending incarnations because they do not have a home in the physical to return to... That must and will end
It goes on and on... The point I'm trying to make is... Challenging beliefs can take many forms

Regards
 
Hi John,

I'm not particularly disturbed by anything you have said. Actually, most of it just stirs my interest more. For example, the discussions about how to travel in the light, returning to the sun, the physical mothers of the gods, and the many powerful spiritual entities from Ancient Egypt caught in never-ending incarnations, are all worthy of discussion--even where you do not understand everything you have been shown/told. Actually, all of these other than the "physical mothers of the gods" links with something I have heard somewhere else. This doesn't means that these prior bits of information are correct, just that the things you mention don't sound like outlandish ideas to me as you have stated them--I think each has reasonable explanations within the expanded universe of ideas available to those who are not hung-up in strictly materialist conceptions of reality (though there could also be unreasonable explanations as well). As to the physical mothers of the gods, this is something that has come up before, so I also do not find that as strange as others might. As to those trapped in a cycle of incarnations, I guess my first questions are "who" are these entities, are why are they trapped? Is it because ancient Egypt no longer exists, or is there some other reason? It seems that there is condition for their release that has not been satisfied, so I suppose the question would be "what" will release them from this trap?

In any case, no problems in terms of the ideas and matters being conveyed. If I'm disturbed by anything, it is only that I find it disappointing that BB and your source are "arrogant, demanding and self centered". Maybe I'm just overly idealistic, but it seems to me that the servants of beings having the nature that you have described for the sun gods would have, or strive to have, natures more like those they serve.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi John,
A Mirror Life was something 'They' called it. They seemed surprised that I had not heard of it before, but it is a pretty simple concept. S&S touched on it above. It is when someone develops an affinity - generally for looking a certain way. But other things too, habits, etc. Someone might find themselves in a string of physical bodies that look and feel similar. Eventually, the spirital you (your Ka?) Starts projecting itself that way too, in the way that feels most like "you", and in the way you are most effective in the world.

A string of Mirror Lives - where you are in a similar physical body over and over - sometimes makes it difficult to separate the 'when' of past life recall. It might make it seem as if all the pieces belonged to one long life, when they belonged to several. They also make it a bit easier to remember, in that you have lots of built-in potential triggers. Anyway, it seems as if this is NOT a mirror life for you. Kinda' makes the fact that you are communication with your spirit and starting to recall that much more remarkable, in my view.
 
Thanks once again Blueheart.... I'm going through one of those difficult times again... you know and understand what I mean... none of this is easy... its hard as you also know and understand
As I have said before....the physical and original and only true gods the sun gods came to the tribes of the Nile through the light of the second sun... they also left through the light of the second sun
As I have said this happened I don't know how long ago.... but it was many thousands of years before the unification of Egypt
When I was meditating the other night it came to me what both BB... (my spiritual self)...and my source were talking about...the ability to travel within the light.. and the light of the second sun appearing to the tribes of the Egypt and the physical gods arriving and departing through the light of the second sun.. after the gods left.. the second sun was gone.. are connected..
These things never stop making me scared... Two or more things that made little sense... sometimes I cannot help but wonder if its my imagination because some of what is passed onto me are way out there come together and prove many things to me.... but it really scares me.
I'm trying hard to understand what BB and my source talk about... how to travel within the light....I'm just beginning to understand a fraction of what they are talking about.. but I have no idea what it means if that makes any sense.. Only going to tenth grade at school is a real hindrance in these situations
 
Hi John,

I'm writing for two reasons.

First, because I'm a bit worried about you. Bad days and even bad weeks come--and usually go. But, the time is stretching out since your last post, and I'm beginning to be concerned. Please post a few words just to let us know you're still OK.

Second, I think your comment about 10th grade educations really misses the mark about what may be one of your strengths. In fact, it may have been part of the plan for this lifetime. Education can be good, but often it just loads people down with preconceptions and opinions about the way things are, what is possible and impossible, and what "must" (in their sole judgment) BEEE! I've ran into plenty of educated idiots in my time and even more "educated" know-it-alls. (I don't claim to be free from these vices myself, but nobody's perfect!)

There is an old story about a sage who was visited by a very educated man who wanted to know about the sage's teachings. At tea the sage continued to pour into the visitor's cup until it overflowed and the visitor was finally forced to ask him to stop pouring as the cup would hold no more. The sage then told the visitor that he (the visitor) was like the cup, so full of ideas and opinions about things that he could by no means "hold" what the sage might tell him. It is not a bad story, and I think you should take it to heart. Don't worry about whether these things make sense. If you'd have talked about electronics or relativity to someone a thousand years ago they would have thought it was all nonsense or magic. That is the way it is with things that are waaaaaay beyond the current world view and science. So, why would you expect anything different here? You are apparently getting things that are not known yet, or have been forgotten. Why not just take them at face value and strive not to try to explain them to yourself or "pigeon hole" them for the time being. Maybe it would be best to take the sage's advice and just empty your cup. Understanding may have to come later.

Cordially,
S&S
 
Hi S&S Thanks for the concern.... I'm still not right..... the light thing has really freaked me out.. others thing have happened I can never talk about.. On the other thread I talked about one experience I had with the light in Ancient Egypt... there are a couple of others that are one of the reasons I'm freaked out... As you know John Tat is not a young man
The traveling in the light thing will not go away.. both BB and my source want to talk about it... All I want to do is go back to what is important to me .. my next incarnation and the arrival of the mothers of the gods ... This travelling within the light thing is important to them... as I have said before some Ancient Egyptian's were far more advanced than anyone could possibly know The way they talk about how to travel within the light it feels to me there are thousands of parts to travelling within the light...It feels to me they are trying to pass onto me those things that need to be put in there proper sequence for it to happen.. I may be wrong but that's what it feels like... They told me travelling at the speed of light is just the beginning of how fast you can travel within the light... That sounds like madness does't it.... how can you possibly travel faster that what you are travelling within?
As I said the whole thing is freaking me out..... I am doing better but I'm still not right

Reagrds
 
Hi John,

Sounds like you have information overload. You may need to take some time off to clear your mind a bit, or at least attend to some other things for a while until you can "chill".

In terms of traveling faster than the light, I'm not sure that is an issue, except that current physics doesn't acknowledge that possibility. But, so much for current physics. Anyhow, going faster than a moving medium that is bearing you happens all the time. I used to do a lot of downriver canoeing. So, current carrying me, and paddle pushing me even faster than the river current was moving me. I could have been moving even faster with an outboard doing the same thing. However, in both cases, I am reacting against the moving medium that is carrying me to go even faster. So, can you react against light as a moving medium? We don't know how, but there is a lot we don't know. Another way would be to react against another medium. So, a boat with a sail is using another medium to move faster than the medium that carries it. And, with an airboat like we have here in Florida, it could use a propeller to go even faster.

As mentioned, going faster than light is a big no-no in current physics, and is supposed to be impossible, but I'm not sure there aren't ways around that limitation. There are alternate theories--not in keeping with the current orthodoxies--where there are particles that go faster than light. One of these posits particles called Tachyons, that are kind of the mirror image of ordinary matter, and have a lower limit to their velocity (which they never reach) equal to the speed of light, with their normal velocities being much, much higher, and maybe even infinite. So, maybe there is some way to reach the ultimate velocity of light and then hop over into a completely new realm of existence where velocity has no limit.

Anyhow, I'm glad you're still there and hope you can get some rest and keep from "blowing a fuse". Maybe you should let them know that they're going too fast for you with some of this stuff. Anyhow, the faster than light stuff doesn't sound impossible, but the way they are talking about doing it certainly seems like it might be just as complicated as a "warp" drive!

Cordially,
S&S
 
I agree with S&S, John.

In addition, you need to take breaks to let the information settle. That's where the subconscious can help put together complicated things you don't yet understand consciously. Relax and do something tangible and practical. Some people call it "grounding" when you anchor yourself in practical, everyday tasks for a while. If you like gardening, cleaning house, or walking in the woods, those are ideal ways to simmer down and feel more anchored.

Your experiences may feel crazy, but I think it's pretty standard in a "there are a lot more people going through similar experiences than you realize" sort of way.
 
It is true what S&S Mere Dreamer have said.. I know I need to take things easy for a while.. But I just wanted to say something.... What if when you are within the light you are in a completely different environment...where all of our principles, understandings and knowledge about the sciences are not applicable to that environment
 
Actually, I think the principles, understandings, and knowledge that science is studying are just one aspect of the universe. It's a bit like the difference between moving across a paper to get from one side to another, and folding the paper so you can just step from one point to the next. Exploring within the limits of a two dimensional space (like a piece of paper) and moving into three dimensional space that allows you to manipulate that paper from angles that don't exist on the plain creates very different experiences.

It seems reasonable that the same sort of shift happens when you move up to the fourth dimension, too. It's not that the rules aren't applicable, you just have access to rules beyond those possible within 3rd dimensional perspective. Just like folding the paper sounds crazy to the dot on that page, but from our perspective it's possible; our current experience of life functions amid the existence of more complex structures. Our physical selves see those possibilities through the filter of a 3 dimensional existence, but our perspective isn't the limit of what is possible.

It sounds like the information you're exploring may allow movement beyond the limitations of our 3 dimensional existence, and they are explaining how the light helps you move into or through that perspective.
 
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Hi Mere,

The paper analogy sounds like the classic way of explaining a "tesseract" using a string or piece of paper to demonstrate how one can move from one point to another at great distances without traversing the space in-between. It is theorized in numerous works of science fiction (and scientific hypotheses) in one way or another. Interestingly, some of those require achieving something close to light speed before such "leaps" become possible. So, as you say . . . .

Cordially,
S&S
 
I am sorry you have been having such a rough time.

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All I want to do is go back to what is important to me .. my next incarnation and the arrival of the mothers of the gods ...
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M'kay. So, who do you think these women were to you, back then? And, who do you suspect they will be to you next time?

It feels to me they are trying to pass onto me those things that need to be put in there proper sequence for it to happen.. I may be wrong but that's what it feels like...
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Once, I was viewing the Earth from a great distance - kind of like you see in pics of the planet taken from the moon. Anyway, there was an intense conversation going on around me and with me. At one point, I had to "say" the mental equivalent of "Hold on! How am I possibly going to remember all if this?!?" The answer I got was, "When the time is right, you will (remember ?)" Remember is not quite the right word, actually. It was more like, when the time is right, you will hark back to this moment, and you will just know what to do. So ... there is that, for what it is worth. It is just how they operate.

They told me travelling at the speed of light is just the beginning of how fast you can travel within the light...
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I have heard this too. It was not the main topic of conversation. It was just an aside, but I got the impression that 'They' like to talk about it. A lot.
 
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What if when you are within the light you are in a completely different environment...where all of our principles, understandings and knowledge about the sciences are not applicable to that environment
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Yes. Like in Bardo? Although, *some* are applicable there. What if?
 
Hi Blueheart... Great to hear from you I really needed you to touch base with me again I'm going ok .. the light thing will not go away .. I'm slowly working my way through it and hopefully I will be able to post something about it soon You asked who were the mothers of the gods to me and who do I think they will be to me next... It's a little hazy but it goes something like this.....when the mothers of the gods were laid to rest they were laid with their faces facing to the east from where they came.. As soon as they arrive back as infants they must be taken and held once again facing the east... they will be filled with the light and power of our gods ready to do what is required of them

Regards
 
Over he past couple of months both BB and my source have been putting enormous pressure on me about this travelling within the light thing.. As I reported things were not going well for me..It got to a point were I had no energy no concentration and would go to sleep at any time.. Because of my heart attack I'm being tested all of the time A week or so ago I had some blood tests and my doctor rang me and wanted me to go and have some more.. When I went to see him he asked what have you been doing? I asked what do you mean? He said you are completely run down he said your hemoglobin, iron levels and others are not good, have you been doing anything different? I would never say what I thought that it was properly the intense pressure from both BB and my source over this travelling within the light thing.. As I reported that has put enormous strain on me. He has put me on a four week course of three injections a week to boost my system back to normal.. I have just finished the first week and feel much better... I'm sure this is the reason for my body being run down.. Is it possible this is the reason? Has anyone else had this happen or heard of it happening?
 
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