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luvangels3

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I'll just start by saying hello. I have read this board off and on for a year as some "strange" comments started coming from my daughter. However we have hit some new areas, as well as my youngest son seeing angels or spirits, so I figured it was time to register. My daughter is going to be 4 in a month. She spoke in complete sentences and phrases at 15-18months. Since then she has been the second mother in the house. She likes to do housework, get drinks and meals, and all the other mommy duties. She has always been very attached. When she was almost 2 she told me and my husband that she used to be my mommy and I was in her tummy. She would even go into detail that she would nurse me when I cried. This has gone on for sometime with little extras here or there.

Then yesterday, while helping unload the dishwasher, she just started talking about it again. I just listened. Summed up it was that when she was my mommy she would take care of me, she was going to be married by a lady down the street, but she wasn't there anymore, before she was married, her and I were sleeping in bed and the police came in and shot us, we died. I was three at the time this happened. She tried to protect me but couldn't. They had tall guns and just came in. She talked about things we did before we died that sound normal, but she couldn't have pulled the ideas from this life. She has always been scared of policemen and their cars if we ever see them when we are out. We have a security system and she always makes sure I turn it on at night the keep the "mean police" out. She sleeps with me, always has, and can hardly be separated from me.

On occasion she will stay with daddy while I run to the store. We have always called her our little mother. That is just what she is. She is constantly doing and wanting to do things other 3 year old girls aren't even aware of. Also, when she turned three she was not happy. For the last year, she has wanted to skip three and be four. Maybe this explains why. She even told me her name yesterday first and last. One more thing, she is a red head (don't know where that came from) and has birthmarks on her tummy, leg and shoulder that is like a spray of freckles from the center out.

I have marks in similar placement, but without pigment. Any insight would be appreciated. I am letting her act out her mommy tendencies freely. This is so long already so I won't continue, but there is so much more that she puts in here and there and everything stays tied together.

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luvangels3
 
I forgot to add something. I mentioned that I didn't include everything she talks about, but I think this is significant. Since she was about 2 1/2 she obsesses about having a "big tummy". She says she needs it so she can have a baby in her tummy. She can even recall certain things about being pregnant. I think sometimes now, she has trouble discerning between her past and present life. Does that make any sense to you?
 
Hi Luvangels3,

Yes, it makes perfect sense. I assume you have read Carols first book? I want to encourage you, if you have not already done so, to read her second book.

Your post wasn't to clear to me..is she talking about being your mother (whom I assume is now passed on) as well as a life that the two of you lived before that? So a succession of life times..one then another?

Does she know the city or town you lived in? Have you done a search for the name she gave you? That is remarkably clear and might be very significant to understanding more.

Do you have any memories of a life being shot? Shared memories would put a whole new spin on it!!!


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Love,
Deborah

Lifes experiences weave a tapestry of knowledge
 
Hi luvangels3
I think that trying to research the name is a good idea. also i read on another persons forum that birthmarks can be scars from past lives so it is possible that your daughters birthmarks are where the bullets entered.
I think that it is great that you are open about this i hope that i have given some inspiration to you.



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Mystical Moon
 
Thanks to both your responses. I am very inspired. Now to answer the questions. She says "before I was in your tummy, I was your mommy". So I don't know if it was in the exact last life, or before. My mother is still alive. I would think there would have been other times for her in between since I am going to be 30 and she is just getting ready to turn four years old. I don't exactly remember being shot. However whenever I hear on the news or on a show about a mother and child being killed, I get the worst chills and almost a feeling of "I know how that feels". I am also very afraid of lakes. A psychic once told my mom when I was young that I drowned in a past life. And, in this life, when I was 8 my cousin pushed me off of a pier. I remember looking up and seeing all the sunlight through the rippling water and the kelp swaying around me. I felt like I was turning around and was then pushed to the surface (guardian angel?) I have researched the name on the internet and haven't found anything. I will try some different spellings. One thing is that it is the same first name as a girl across the street, and she loves to repeat the name even though she's not an actual playmate. It seems like for her there should be something else in between this and that life. So I just let her talk and let her know that I am open to her. I want her to know that she is accepted in this way. Another thing, last evening she told me she doesn't want to grow up and was very adimant, but didn't elaborate. Thanks and blessings~Oh, and I will be looking for Carol's book!

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luvangels3
 
It's important to remember that most of us have had many, many human lifetimes, perhaps hundreds of lifetimes. For example I know that some of the people I am closest to in this lifetime, I was close with thousands of years ago. So, it would be easy for your daughter to remember a very ancient lifetime that is impossible to research in this way.

Blessings,

bob
 
I was my mommy's mommy

I have an sister who is four and a half years older than myself. When she was about two and a half, my mom began to hear crying in the night that seemed to be coming from outside the window. She would wake my dad, who didn't hear it and check on my sister, who wasn't crying. This happened regularly, although not frequently, until I was conceived. Then it suddenly stopped. At age three or so, I began to approach my mother asking if she remembered "when I was the mommy," "when I used to give her her bath and tuck her in," and that kind of thing. When I started preschool, it stopped. My mother theorized that starting preschool introduced so many new stimuli that there was too much new "noise" in my head to be able to focus on this archetypal memory. I'm new to this site and curious to hear the input of anyone who can tell me how common this is and, above all, how to investigate further. I'd love to know who I was and who my mom was. Thanks--great site!
 
dear Mandy... welcome to the board. That is very interesting. I dont know if you've had a chance to read the other posts on this board, but there are many times children about age 3 ask someone "dont you remember?" That is very strange to me that a child that age can think of the concept of "remember". I think she probably was your mother in a previous lifetime. The way I understand it, for whatever reason, we choose to come back in the lives of former family members at times. You can think of all kinds of scenarios, but we come back for a purpose, unknown to us now, but somehow get a glimmer and it gives us some direction in our lives.
Welcome. Love, Barbara

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barbara
 
Mandy,

From what I have heard, this is fairly common. I have had friends and family members who have had similar conversations at a very young age. There are ways you can discover your past life. If you live in a somewhat large, and open-minded city there are probably several counselors that do past life regressions. New age bookstores are a great resource for this kind of information. They will most likely have books on how to uncover past lives on your own, and may very well have a resource guide that can help you find someone to help in your area. I wish you well, and good luck in your search. Please keep us posted. :P

Rae.
 
My daughter INSISTS she was my mom.

My 3 year old daughter has, since she has been able to speak, insisted that she was my mother. She repeats this at least monthly to me. Usually she says something like, "When you were my age, I was your mommy," or "When you were a little girl, I used to change your diaper."

I never took it with any seriousness until one day when we were looking at my old family photos. My mother died when I was 19. When looking through these photos, my daughter was easily able to pick me out of photos that were taken when I was a child or teenager. She could not, however, pick me out of photos from when I was an adult, unless it was a VERY recent picture of me.

I never believed in reincarnation before, and I'm still not sure about it. But this all does make me wonder.

Carrie
 
Hi Carrie,

Out of the mouth of babes! It's so amazing what children can tell us about the paranormal. After all, their world is not clouded by judgements and "stuff" that grown ups have.

I believe your daughter when she says she was your mom in a past life (her past life anyway). Was your daughter able to pick your mom (ie, herself in the past life)out of photographs? Has she been able to give you other details?

I would suggest reading through this forum because there are many parents who have the same type of experiences. Also, you might want to journal what she says, etc, so that later you may be able to put it all together. Most importantly, just let her talk at her own will and tell you what being your mother was like for her. I am sure she will tell you many interesting things, and maybe some of it will hit home with you.

Also, I've not read Childrens Past Lives by Carol Bowman, but if it has the same quality as this webiste created by her, then it's outstanding.

I can't wait to hear more!

Susie

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Free will allows me to choose my path, but my Higher Power lights the way....

[This message has been edited by Susie (edited 09-03-2001).]
 
Hi Carrie

Welcome to the forum.

Well I can’t really add much more right now to the great advice Susie dished out…but I will double up on the urge for you to keep a journal of all she’s sharing with you….it’s such a gem in years to come to look back over and connect the pieces together.

And I’d certainly recommend getting hold of a copy of Carol’s book Childrens Past Lives or alternatively Return From Heaven, which is specifically based around same family reincarnation….they are both valuable reads and great introductions to all that your daughter is presently sharing….along with the forum and all the other posts and cases that have been discussed within here, I’m sure you’ll find plenty of guidance and help….and of course…keep asking questions.

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Lots of Love
Kelly
 
Well Carrie, i'm new here too. My little daughter began to talk before her 2nd birthday. She told me that she used to be 'a grandma' and that her name was 'Rosie and Ellie'. She said she had a husband and that he always came home dirty and she had to help him wash and had to clean his clothes. She also told us about her dog, he was black and white and lived in the yard, but she used to let him into the house. We were really startled by all this, but i took it as evidence of re-incarnation. My husband said he believed it was 'inherited memory'. After the age of 5 she never said anything else about it, and we never questioned her. Later though, my mother was researching her family history, and found to our astonishment that her own grandmother had a sister called Rose Ellen, and not only that but this lady had been married to a coalminer! I have never forgotten the stories my infant daughter told me, but sadly i think she now has.
 
Carrie,
It is possible that your daughter was your mother in her last life. And it would make perfect sense that since your mother died when you were relatively young, she would want to return to be with you again. Isn't that wonderful!

I find it particularly interesting (and not unusual) that your daughter can pick out your face in a photo when you were younger, probably before your mom died. That's how this seems to work. The memories children have of previous lives cut off at the time of their past-life death. In other words, your daughter isn't picking up psychic impressions, or she would be able to identify you at an older phase of your life--since your mother's death, not just before the age of 19 or so.

As Kristen pointed out in her amazing story above, these memories usually fade around the age of 5 or 7. So this time of your daughter's remembering is precious and limited. I encourage you to write down everything she says about being your mother so you'll both remember when she's older.



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Carol Bowman
http://www.childpastlives.org
 
Son is my father

I think my son is my father. He was a twin but his brother is in the summerland, so he has a foot in both worlds. My father died in 1985 and Josh was born in 1987. He's always made comments but what really gets to me is the way he kisses my cheek. It's exactly the way my father kissed me and it's a very unique thing. I don't know anyone else who kisses like that. Are there any good books anyone can recommend that I read to explore this further?

Thanks
Siryn

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Respect knows no color
 
Welcome to the forum siryn,

Your son is now 15? Did you keep a journal when he was small? Do you remember any other things he said or did that your father did also? Does he still do them?

Both of Carols' book are wonderful and give great examples of children who remember past lives. Return from Heaven is all about children born back into the same family.

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Deborah

If I could make a statement about what is real, the best I could do, is tell you how I feel.
 
Thanks for your suggestions. I will go to the library and find out if they have them. I didn't keep a journal because I knew next to nothing about it. I don't know too much more now though! And yes, he still has those same traits. I think I will set aside some time to sit down and really talk to Josh about his feelings and thoughts.

Thanks
Tammie
Siryn

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Respect knows no color
 
Mother/Daughter-Daughter/Mother?

My 2yr old has had a lot of interesting things to tell me! It started a couple of months ago. She got up one morning and hugged me and said,"I all grown up!" and I thought how cute. She has cute things to say so I just humored her. I asked her if she could drive a car then. She laughed and said,"No cars there mommy!" And I, of course, asked her where, no cars where? She responded with,"When I Mary." My daughter's name is Dakota! I thought maybe she said married, but when I questioned her she said it was her name. I told her doesn't she know her name is Dakota! She said,"Now I Dakota. I Mary there." I'm not sure were there is still, but from conversations with my daughter a few things have come up. Like the day she declared after I didn't let her eat junk food,"You NOT the mom!"
Later the same day when she was calmer I asked her about saying that. She very clearly answered with,"I the mom." after more questioning about how is she the mom, since I am and I got from her,"I mom there. I mom Mary. You mom. No, no no no no, you bad boy!" I tried to joke saying me, a boy. No. And did she forget her name again. She was serious, and calm still when responding to me. She told me,"I Mary. You baby there. Bad boy. Eddie got boo boo mommy Mary kiss it better if you be good. My husband work hard there mom. I sad there mom." She actually said all this to me! We don't know anyone named Eddie! And no one close to us named Mary. We've had other conversations which all are connected and she's made claims of her being the mom and me being her "bad boy" son! I have no idea where she could come up with this stuff on her own. And she seems to not associate things like tv and cars to "There" and she makes odd announcements sometimes. She really has me mystified! At first I didn't think much of what she was saying, but the more she seems to say, it just there is no way for her to just know these things. I truly believe she is remembering a past life. But why???
 
Hi,

From what you have said, I believe that your daughter is remembering a past life.

Children hold the truth to our existence....it is we who have to open up and listen.

Love,
Sensitive Soul

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"Doubt is of the mind;
Truth is of the heart."
-Sensitive Soul
 
Hi LeeDaksM,

Your daughter is definitely remembering a past life. I recommend that you write everything down. She will probably forget most if not everything she said.

She's probably remembering because she has unresolved feelings about that life. She's said she wasn't happy, and calls you a bad boy. Talking about it w/her, and asking her how she feels about Mary and Eddie and her bad boy may help her to process those feelings.

You can help her by listening, and reasurring her that you love her, you are her mommy now, and she can talk to you about that life whenever she needs to. Be well.

Love and Light
 
Thanks for responding. I do try to keep an open mind with my daughter and talk things out with her. Writing down what she says is a good idea. I was thinking maybe when she's in a talkative mood about those ususual things, I could get out my tape recorder and have it ready with blank tape. That could be interesting. In the mean time, just keeping notes writing it down is what I'll do.
It's so strange hearing such a little girl talk about things that seem like they should be so foreign to her. One minute she seems like just my little girl, but the next she seems almost like a stranger.
Today she's busy being a little girl. No unusual announcements. lol.
 
Same-Family Reincarnation (Mother/Son)

On October 17, 1989, gave birth to a beautiful-but ill-little boy.
His nickname was Jay, and he was diagnosed as having cystic fibrosis. Jay had two older sisters from that same marriage, as well. As he grew into a slender blonde-haired boy, he was full of insight, wisdom, and spirituality that was beyond his young years. He was always interested in what happened to the spirit after death-and about Heaven, God, and religion. We never
knew what to expect from Jay-as he was so intelligent. He learned to write when he was newly three years old, and was capable of working most of the medical machines needed to aid in his daily life.

Jay had a strong fascination with "(Mighty Morphin) Power Rangers" and the "Teenaged Mutant Ninja Turtles"-things that were highly popular in the 90's, but aren't so popular today. We bought Jay every single toy ever made from these shows, and he collected them like gold coins. Jay and I had our own special bond-having little nicknames for eachother and little sayings that only he and I said to one another, such as "You're my guy!", "My sweet baboo," and Jay used to call me "Honey" when he wanted something.

On November 20, 1995, Jay lost his battle with CF. He was only 6 years old. He was such a young boy with an old soul. Moments after his death, as I sat on Jay's bed next to my little boy, I leaned over his face and kissed his forehead and whispered, "If you love me, come back to your Honey." I was heartbroken.
We held his funeral three days later.

Fast forward through a divorce with Jay's father and later remarrying another man.

My new husband and I welcomed the birth of our daughter in 1998. Then in 2001, I gave birth to a baby boy-named after his father (Damon Jeston), and nicknamed DJ. At birth, DJ had a head full of blonde hair. My two older daughters both had dark
brown hair, and our little daughter also had dark brown hair. Both my husband and I have dark brown hair, as well. DJ is the only blonde in our family. This caused many people to make comments about DJ looking very much like Jay-but I simply chalked it up to the hair color. But something was
different.

DJ and I shared/still share a very close bond. When he was
about 10 months old-about the time he would start saying, "Ma-ma", DJ started calling me "Honey". He refused to call me "Mama", and only called me "Honey" until he was about 3 years old. People thought that it was cute, but I was scared. I never mentioned the connection, and I never influenced DJ's words. He finally started calling me "Mom" after he was 3 yrs. old.

When he first turned 3, he began saying things to me that Jay used to say, such as our special phrases, out of nowhere. It sometimes gets to be heartbreaking, especially since DJ looks hauntingly similar to Jay in appearance. But remember, that Jay and DJ have two different fathers.

The mannerisms are identical, the body build is the same, the favorite foods are the same, and when DJ was only 2 yrs. old, he walked into my bedroom to find me looking through the huge chest of items that belonged to Jay. DJ walked over to it and pulled out two large Power Ranger stuffed toys and said, "Hey! These are MY Power Rangers!"-as if I had stolen them. When he was newly 3 yrs. old, he asked me if he could look into that same chest at the items. I allowed it, and this time, he pulled out a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle action figure and said, "I was wondering where that was." When I asked him if he knew what it was, he said, "Yes, Mom, that's my Ninja Turtle toy."

DJ has never watched Powers Rangers or TM Ninja Turtles, or owned any of those products. He had no reason to know who or what these toys were. He had never been exposed to these shows or toys-mainly because it hurt me to see them.

DJ is almost 4 years old (February 2005). I've seen how DJ is just like Jay, but couldn't talk about it to anyone-for members of my family aren't willing to discuss the issue. I still don't know what to think, which is why I am submitting this for reader opinions.

Thanks-and sorry for the length of this!

Paula
 
Hi Paula, and welcome !


What a powerful story ! There are so many indications that Jay and DJ are the same Soul, IMO. The preference of food, recognizing the toys, and using the same nicknames.
I would suggest you keep a diary (if you are not already doing so) and write down every significant detail in it.

Did DJ ever see a photo of Jay? If so, how did he react to that?

I hope browsing through this forum and especially through the FAQ thread can help you on your research.

Please keep us posted !

Love,

Eevee
 
Pictures

DJ has seen pictures of Jay during this past year. I normally kept them close to me in my bedroom in a special picture box that remained locked. But I have shown him photos.

DJ's first reaction and subsequent reactions have been, "Hey! That's me!". I didn't put much into that, since they both have identical features and hair color, I thought that maybe DJ truly thought that it was, in fact, him (DJ).

But even though I have explained in child-appropriate terms that he had a brother named Jay and that he died, he still acts as though he is trying to convince me that all pictures are of him (DJ). It's the same way with the toys, clothing, shoes, coats, and bedding, that I saved from Jay's life-DJ is always trying to convince me to "let him have them back, because they belong to him."

DJ is almost 4 yrs., and I sometimes have wondered if Jay wanted to come back to see what life would have been like with me as a healthy child-to see what our bond would have been like. Other times, I wonder if it's just wishful thinking. But each comment he makes and each identical characteristic burns a new page in my heart and soul-and leads me to trust what I think I knew the moment he looked at me and called me "Honey".


-Paula
 
Hi Paula and thank you for sharing your touching story! It is fascinating indeed that DJ identified with Jay's toys even though he shouldn't have known what they were called.

And as a mom myself, I found it interesting that he used the word "Honey" for you at such a young age - I feel that's not typical word usage as you described it.

Besides seconding Eevee's recommendation to keep a journal and read other posts here, I'd suggest reading Carol Bowman's 2 books, Children's Past Lives and Return From Heaven. The latter book discusses same family reincarnation.

Aimee
 
Conratulations, Lattimer, on the return of your son. You have truly been blessed. To have a second chance really is a gift from heaven.

I, too, would recommend you read Carol Bowman's books. They will answer many questions for you, and the stories are fascinating.

The diary suggestion is great, too. Please keep us posted.
 
Word Usage

When DJ first began talking and during the time he learned to say "Dada", he referred to me as "unna". I thought that it was cute, and continued to work with him on "Mama", like most parents do.

But "unna" continued, and as the weeks passed, it became "unnee". It was when he was a little over a year when the word "honey" came out. It was then, that I realized that he had been calling me Honey all along. He continued to call me that until he turned 3-and after that, he simply called me "Mom". Before the age of 3, he had never referred to me as "Mommy" or "Mamma".

But during the ages of 1-3 yrs., he was able and did say "Dada" and "Daddy".

People always thought that it was both odd and adorable when they would hear DJ say it, but I end up with a mixed feeling of both joy and sadness.

-Paula
 
UPDATE

Two days ago, as I was driving the kids to school, DJ said something that almost made me stop the van in the road.

We had passed a row of houses on a road that I don't normally take in the mornings. However, I had to make an early morning stop at the convenience store for my 6-yr.old before taking her to school-making this particular road necessary to get to the school.

As we passed the little row of houses, DJ was telling me various bits of information-such as things that he wanted for dinner and dessert. Suddenly, he looked at the houses and said, "When I was the other boy, I use to play with those kids."

At the time that passed by, there were no kids in front of the house-and no indication that children even lived in that home. So, I simply asked, "You did?"

"Yes," he replied.

I asked him, "When you were the other boy?"

He said, "Yes, when I was the other boy and we played at school."

I tried to ask him a few more questions, but his patience with me ran out, and he said, "Stop asking me, Mom."

And that was the end of the coversation.

The incident left me feeling very cold and a bit frightened, as he has never said anything like that before. But I remembered reading on this board, that if a child should happen to begin talking like that, to encourage the child to talk-and not to judge.

But that was the last thing he said.


-Paula
 
I can relate

Hi Paula,
My name is Andrea, and I can kinda relate to what you're going through, of course not to the same degree. Your life is amazing. I too lost a son his name was Michael, he was my first born. Then I had James when Michael was three. I will skip through all the years until November,3rd 1994 thet's when Michael was killed in a motorcycle accident, it was the worst day of my life. I later got married to someone other than their father.
In this marriage I got pregnant with my third son he was due on November 3rd 1996 luckily for everyone involved he was delivered early thanks to an understanding mid-wife. But the coinsidences didn't stop there. They have the same personalilies and are a lot alike but nothing like yours. Please tell me more about how you are dealing with this. Thanks, Andrea
 
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