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What I'm about to talk about is the main reason why I do not share most of what goes on between the pure spiritual me and my source, they are just so far out there and contradicts much of what is believed about Ancient Egypt, but also some are to personal to share is also a factor.. So here I go...


My source told me some time ago that Ra was never a god. You couldn't get anymore out there than that, and it would far easier to keep that and the following to myself. But it will be interesting to put it out there and see what happens


So last week I asked my source once again, why was Ra never a god? He became very agitated and aggressive, and screamed listen to me BB listen


He went on and said...When the original gods came to us, the tribes of the Nile, they came from the light. A light appeared the same as the sun. For a time there were two lights exactly the same, the one the gods came from and the light of the sun


Then, as he does sometimes he began to talk in a language I do not understand, which really annoys me


I listened with everything I had and did pick up bits and pieces as he went from what I understand to what I didn't


Sometimes I wonder if he always talks in this language and its the fault of the pure spiritual me. That's how it feels sometimes and would answer the problems of why I have so many blanks in his communications. So putting together what I could, this is roughly what he said


After the original gods left us, the second sun was gone. There was something of critical importance I missed and I'm going to have to ask him again, which is not easy. In the same sentence there were two words that I understood, Raser and Ra


I wrote both down afterwards and for the first time saw the connection. The first to letters in Raser is Ra, that blew me away when I saw and understood that, and that my source used both in one sentence, even though that was all I understood. There was some more, but it will be in my guess/summary of what this communication was about....


The original gods came to the tribes of the Nile, from a light exactly the same as the sun. For a time there were two lights exactly the same. How they interrupted that is open to questions. Did they understand that the light of the sun and the light the gods came from were separate, or both lights were the sun? It's very likely they believed that for a time there were two suns, and the gods did come from the sun... They were sun gods. Somehow and somewhere Raser is connected to all of this


How and why I have no idea. Now I get into real speculation...Over the century's Raser evolved into Ra, the sun god, the original and all powerful god. In some roundabout and twisted ways that is right. But in its pure form as my source would interpreted it Ra was never a god. He was a symbol of the original gods, the sun gods


Its interesting that this concept of the light takes us to the gods


is still believed by most religions and the light is also seen in most NDE's
 
Gosh! It sounds a bit like Stargate Atlantis. Have you ever seen that show? A 'stargate' in the show can allow people to travel through time and space, like a teleporter device.


Sometimes I wonder where the ideas for a show like this come from? Has someone else had a similar 'vision' to that your source is showing you?


http://stargate.mgm.com/view/series/2/
 
tanguerra


I don't know what you mean. Like most I have seen the stargate show a couple of times...The little I understand from what I have seen, I do not see the connection you are referring to... explain what you mean so I can understand. The only thing I can think of is the sea of blue matter they walk into when they want to go somewhere, if that is what you mean then I seen that has having no relevance to what I'm talking about. or is the fact there were two lights and the gods came from the light (the sun) seem impossible to you or sci fiction to you? If you think that is what it is then references to the light by religions and NDE's must also remind you of Stargate.


As I have said before I'm never offended by posts on the forum I just need to understand what was meant


If I say something it covers all possibilities and interruptions, whatever they are, which I have no control over. If what I said reminds you of science fiction then that is great in many ways because many things connected to the belief in religions and gods is just that, which gives me positive feelings about this communication with my source
 
John, it's suspected from a very long time ago (and not only by some "crazy people" who make TV shows) that it's very likely the origin of humanity comes "from the stars", that is, from beings that came from the stars, they could be extraterrestrials or not. There are innumerable "hints" in the Bible and other sacred books, only people read just what they want to read, and inaccuracies with translations are also frequent, and this leads to many misinterpretations.


I can't believe that you, who seem to be a great student of the Bible, haven't realized this. But it comes as no surprise, as most Catholics and other Christians don't either. I also think Jesus was very, very clear, with his words, but of course, everything we don't want to believe, we say it's just a myth or the author's imagination, and we laugh at every historian who defies accepted knowledge and dares to say there are indeed many evidence of ET's coming to the Earth in prehistoric times. It's all there, take a look at Tassili prehistoric paintings for example, and look with the soul's eyes, not the mind of current human beings who can't accept different realities.


Now, what was that sun from which Ra came? One of the theories to explain UFO's is that they are interdimensional vehicles, and this is quite plausible. Many UFO's have been described through history like "bright stars" or "lights brigther than the sun", I don't think there's any need to say they're interdimensional, they could also be "normal, physical vehicles" but made with a technology much more advanced than ours, though the behaviour of these "lights" many times suggests they can certainly appear and dissapear as if they're shifting to another dimension.


Even today, in supposed "Virgin apparitions", people describe they start to see how the sun dances, or, like you said, how there are apparently two suns for a while. No one knows how this phenomenon is formed, but even many objective researchers without religious beliefs of any kind have seen it, so we don't have reason to believe it's not real.


I guess you also know the links between Sirius and the Egyptians according to their ancient myths. It's all there really, this is nothing new, but as you see, we're too blinded by our own beliefs (and this includes scientific theories too) to see reality. Of course, this doesn't mean I believe every farfetched claim I see on TV, you just have to go to the original texts and learn to see with other eyes. Men that lived two thousand years (or more) ago were not silly creatures and not all they wrote were fantasies. If one says "a wheel of fire" came down from the skies and "God" talked to them, I think there are not too many ways to interpret this. What I really doubt is the one descending and talking to them was really "God" or "an Angel".
 
I said at the very beginning of the post the reason I do not share these communications from my source is that they are to far out there.. tanguerra's response was what I expected, and there will be others, who either think it post their opinions which is fine by me. Its interesting what Eowyn said about me being a student of the bible. I do spend many happy hours reading the bible. I do not believe in the Christian god but it feels many things in the bible are symbolic of my roots very long ago, so I get a lot of comfort from reading the bible.


Its interesting but again Eowyn is right I never connect any of my beliefs or communications to anything let alone an alien connection. Its just what I believe and what has been communicated to me by my pure spiritual self and source


When my source tells me such things the gods came from a light the same as the sun, I draw no conclusions about that, I just take it on its face value. As far as my source is concerned the original gods did come the light, he never thinks or talks about it any further than that.. It feels to me no different to a friend telling me he went out to dinner the night before with his wife. There is nothing to question or read anything into either event.. I never stop from being amazed at how many of the things communicated to me turn out to be right when I had no prior knowledge about them before the communications The two suns Eowyn talked about is another example


Anyway I'm now not convinced sharing these communications is a good thing, just as I was before I posted about this communication
 
Hi John,


Whether it is "a good thing" to share comes in at least 3 perspectives.


First, is it good from the perspective of others on the board? I would say yes. Many are interested, and I can't see how it would harm.


Second, is it good from your perspective? From that viewpoint, I would say that would depend on whether it helps you to advance your understanding. All I can say is that you get a lot of possibilities thrown at you. Sometimes they seem to be useful, most times not. So, if it is worthwhile to wade through the irrelevant to get to an occasional gem that advances your understanding, then probably sharing has some use for you. You seem to be better able at this point to dismiss the irrelevant without being confused by it (i.e., set back in terms of understanding), but you're the best person to evaluate this issue.


Third, have you had any response to it from your source? There doesn't seem to be anything private about things you've received and revealed so far. In fact, he seems pleased when you understand, which is occasionally facilitated by others.


Cordially,


S&S


PS--Everything you've said so far seems to be consistent with the idea of Egypt as a legacy situation, i.e., receiving a strong start from a prior much older more advanced civilization. The idea of a "sun" could just indicate a very bright shining craft (at least to primitive people). Actually, we could do the same thing with our technology today, so I see no reason to postulate an extraterrestrial origin. I have some other ideas that are more "Biblical", but I'll leave off unless you are interested.
 
SeaAndSky


I read the bible for several reasons one is to relax my brain after a hectic day. I just drift off into my own little world and can relate to a lot I read. So I do not attempt to make more of it than I read.. So it would be interesting to me for you to point out your understandings of any alien connections


Different to how it appears I'm very and I mean very heavily censored by both my source and the pure spiritual me on what I can talk about to others There are times when I have hand written something I will post, which felt to me borderline for me to pass on and the pure spiritual me comes down on me before I post it. They are happy for me to pass on what I do, I know especially my source would like the truth as he sees it to be out there on some issues.. The Ra thing really ****** him off


Once I said to him ...it does not seem possible to me everyone can be so wrong about Ra..The best way to describe his response is.. I will never ask him such a question again.. You see, what he tells me about Ra is way way out there and he is very happy for me to pass that on, but most other things he is not


Regards
 
John Tat said:
or is the fact there were two lights and the gods came from the light (the sun) seem impossible to you or sci fiction to you?
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Sorry John if you misunderstood. Perhaps I didn't make my comment very clear. I'm not meaning to tease you or anything like that.


Yes, I mean that there were these two bright suns in the sky. Maybe one could have been such a device which is where these 'gods' came from? Perhaps from the future or similar? I have heard somewhat similar tales before believe it or not. All kinds of things went on back in the 'Atlantean age', which pre-dated the Egyptian age.


My connection between sci-fi, was that maybe the writer of that show had also either heard of or experienced such a tale as you describe, not that you are making it up, but quite the opposite.
 
John Tat said:
Once I said to him ...it does not seem possible to me everyone can be so wrong about Ra..The best way to describe his response is.. I will never ask him such a question again.. You see, what he tells me about Ra is way way out there and he is very happy for me to pass that on, but most other things he is not
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Probably we are very wrong about the other "gods" too. You see, John, through history "divinity" is usually just someone who claimed to be "divine" and the rest believed them. That's how the hundreds of religions are born. Then someone (in fact, a few people) came and said "Stop doing that, you don't need to follow anyone, you don't need to search divinity outside of you, as we all are divine". No one heard them... and then they created a few other religions. That's how human beings work, I guess. And so here we are thousands of years later, still killing in the name of our "gods"...


Anyway, I think I already said this to you, but just be careful with what your source tells you, don't think he's different from any of us just because he seems to lack a body. The world is also filled with books written by people like you who communicated with "a source" (supposedly), and the only thing they proved was that they usually are not too reliable, and the communications always gets mixed with the thoughts of the recieving mind.


Apart of this, I'm always curious to know what your source tells you.
 
Eowyn.. You said that we are all divine In my post 146 I said I was beginning to believe they the original gods did teach us that it was all about us, the pure spiritual us.. its interesting that the gods themselves would/may say that to the original tribes of the Nile


You talked about the communication getting mixed with the thoughts of the physical brain. I'm very aware of that. As I have said I believe it's a good thing I can only contact my source through the pure spiritual me. I meditate contact me the pure spiritual me then ask if my source is there, that's if I want to communicate with him which is around once or twice a week sometimes he is waiting for my connection to the spiritual me.. As I said I do have to be very careful not put my physical spin on the communications.. That is why I take all communications on there face value. The light from the gods is just that not anything else I cannot allow the communications to be anything else other that what is communicated.


I have so much proof now and some of it is on this forum and thread that many things I had no idea or knowledge about before that were communicated to me have turn out to be absolutely right and accurate. That is more than any proof I can have that all of this is very real. That's also why much of what is communicated that I'm not allowed to pass on is just a accurate and that really scares the hell out of me


Different to anything you have heard about these type of communications before all of this has nothing to do


with anyone else except the spiritual me and my source.. That is why I only talk about issues that has nothing to do with what is actually going on although it all goes back to Ancient Egypt and what it all represented My source does want the truth as he sees it on some issues passed on
 
Stele of Naram Sin


I thought this might interest you, although it is not Egyptian. It has some of the elements you are drawn to: the mound arising from chaos, the struggle to maintain order, and now, the two suns. Beware, though. The stele is used to bolster some pretty outrageous theories.
 
John Tat said:
So last week I asked my source once again, why was Ra never a god? He became very agitated and aggressive, and screamed listen to me BB listen
He went on and said...When the original gods came to us, the tribes of the Nile, they came from the light. A light appeared the same as the sun. For a time there were two lights exactly the same, the one the gods came from and the light of the sun


Then, as he does sometimes he began to talk in a language I do not understand, which really annoys me


I listened with everything I had and did pick up bits and pieces as he went from what I understand to what I didn't


Sometimes I wonder if he always talks in this language and its the fault of the pure spiritual me. That's how it feels sometimes and would answer the problems of why I have so many blanks in his communications.
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Taking off my archaeological hat for a moment . . .


From what I have experienced in Bardo, the in-between state, I have to say, what you write does not surprise me. Don't be too hard on yourself. The language there is archaic, at times. They use words in ways we no longer would. Also, as the communication is instantaneous (telepathic) it is easy when you are "there" but harder when you try to reassemble it "here", after the fact. Try to get the gist of it. It is how you communicate there anyway, heart-to-heart. You KNOW what was communicated, even if you can not quite grasp it "here." If your source does not understand that, (and sometimes I think "they" have forgotten how hard it is here), then frankly, the dude needs to chill out.

So putting together what I could, this is roughly what he said
After the original gods left us, the second sun was gone. There was something of critical importance I missed and I'm going to have to ask him again, which is not easy. In the same sentence there were two words that I understood, Raser and Ra


I wrote both down afterwards and for the first time saw the connection. The first to letters in Raser is Ra, that blew me away when I saw and understood that, and that my source used both in one sentence, even though that was all I understood. There was some more, but it will be in my guess/summary of what this communication was about....
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Hat back on . . .


Ancient Egyptian names were often constructed around the names of the gods. Tutankhamun, or Tut Ankh Amun, meaning "living image of Amun." Before he changed his name he was Tatankhaten or "living image of Aten."


Hat back off . . .


Just an observation here, but remember, the S may be wrong, so Raser might have been Ra-something else-er.


Also, Raser might be the physical incarnation, (perhaps all of them?) with this name. Ra, on the other hand, while not a god, is perhaps, the Light, the spiritual something of which Raser was aware.


Akhenaten's spiritual Renaissance, by the way, was all about the Light.
 
Blueheart


I'm finding it more and more interesting that you point out some of what my source talks about aligns with the beliefs of Akhenaten.. When I ask my source about this he leaves no doubt's about what he thinks of Akhenaten, which are not good. When some of what my source passes on are so closely connected to the beliefs of Akhenaten , why would my source dislike him? I would be interested in what you think the reasons may be?


I looked at Stele of Naram Sin. Its interesting that there is some possibilities that more things are connected than we will ever know and understand


Thanks once again for your help and advise


Its very difficult to explain to others what is really going on with us and our sources. I try, but they still do not understand, Maybe you can do a better job of explaining
 
Just to clarify . . . The akh was viewed as a spirit, sometimes called the "perfect spirit of Ra." It was a category of personhood that was separate from gods or human beings. It was formed after death, when the Ka and Ba united to form a radiant, shining being. The hieroglyph for akh is a crested ibis.


The ankh, on the other hand, looks like a T with a loop on top. It is the symbol for "life" and oddly, also "mirror." Many hand mirrors and cases were found made in this shape, perhaps as a play on words. The gods are often shown presenting the ankh to the recently deceased, especially to their lips. It was seen as the breath of life.


Sekhmet might have been depicted as carrying the ankh because she was both healer and destroyer, and as such, able to bestow life or death to humankind. But, do not let that be a deciding factor for you. Lots of gods and goddesses hold ankhs.


Akhenaten had himself depicted underneath the globe of the Aten. It's rays came down from the disk all around him and his family, and often terminated in little hands holding the ankh symbol to his (and their) lips.
 
John Tat said:
I'm finding it more and more interesting that you point out some of what my source talks about aligns with the beliefs of Akhenaten.. When I ask my source about this he leaves no doubt's about what he thinks of Akhenaten, which are not good. When some of what my source passes on are so closely connected to the beliefs of Akhenaten , why would my source dislike him? I would be interested in what you think the reasons may be?
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I am interested in that too. Anything I would guess would be just that, speculation. It seems, though, as if they would have both been on them same side in that fight. Perhaps, that is where the anger stems from? Ultimately, Akhenaten failed.


His city was ripped apart, literally, brick-by-brick. They were stuffed as filler into Amun's (the rival god's) pylon, among other things, and the worship of the Aten diminished significantly, never to rise to prominence again. Akhenaten and his immediate predecessors were erased from history and he was ever after called "the great criminal" if he was referred to at all. Amun, the god of hidden things, grew to prominence once again.


Perhaps, Akhenaten's greatest crime was that he was their one best chance to redefine what Ra was, to explain about the Light, and set the record straight, but he failed miserably?
 
Your rays nurse all fields,


When you shine they live, they grow for you;


You made the seasons to foster all that you made,


Winter to cool them, heat that they may taste you.


You made the far sky to shine therein,


To behold all that you made;


You alone, shining in your form of living Aten,


Risen, radiant, distant, near.


You made millions of forms from yourself alone,


Towns, villages, fields, the river's course;


All eyes observe you upon them,


For you are the Aten of daytime on high.


Segment of The Great Hymn to the Aten


Credited to Akhenaten himself


From a translation in Miriam Lichtheim's Ancient Egyptian Literature
 
Blueheart


I have just read your last posts again And I had a feeling nothing more than that. This happens sometimes. It feels something like, I witnessed an event (that is my spiritual self witnessed an event) Its always hazy, but it feels to me there is always some truth with what I felt I had witnessed. Its very similar to hearing about something in the physical which leads and reminds you to remember an event that happened that you had forgotten about, its very much like that.


I will do my best to explain what I believe I witnessed. My source is all about Ancient Egypt what it represented and the original gods. Egypt and the original gods were and are of equal importance to him. I may well have witnessed his absolute fury and anger at what Akhenaten did even though he agreed with him about the original gods and the light they came from. He saw the dispute about the gods and their origins


as a religious and/or spiritual debate, not the actions of Akhenaten that did what they did to Egypt. It is very possible me source never objected to the destruction of Akhenaten so balance could be restored to Egypt, which was equally important to him as the original gods.. Which leads me to ask myself does he have unresolved issues about the original gods?


This may seem a simple explanation but it may have been far from that at the time for me source. My source must have been far more balanced in his approach to the dispute about the gods than Akhenaten.. Akhenaten no matter how you analyse it was radical in his religious beliefs, even though they may have been the same as many others.. That is what I believe I remember I witnessed .. The absolute anger and fury my source had for Akhenaten's religious radicalism and the damage it was doing and did
 
Blueheart


I obviously misunderstood or misheard about the Akh and the Ankh. I did not ask my source because it was obvious he was talking about the symbol of Ankh. Its significant because as you said most gods and I now understand since searching about the significance of the Ankh that most if not all pharaohs were also depicted holding the symbol of the Ankh Now my source is saying all those who search dig and look for the truths of Ancient Egypt should also wear the symbol of the Ankh to show some respect to the gods for what they are doing. I do not think that should be taken lightly. As my source said they do not even understand what they are searching for.. Can you tell me what the are searching for? I would love to know so I can understand what they are about. I'm sure if you asked them they would answer they are searching for knowledge, but that doesn't mean anything its bs . It appears to me they are on some giant treasure hunt that never ends, maybe I'm wrong but that is how it appears tome.


I would love to know if there is a connection between the original gods who came from the light (the sun) the lion, also used as a symbol of the sun gods, the Sphinx which very likely was a lion to begin with, Skhmet depicted with a lioness head who was the daughter of Ra the all powerful sun god and the symbol of the Ankh she was holding as most if not all gods are pharaohs were also depicted holding. To me it maybe all getting a little past coincidence. but I will never know
 
Well, if your source was angry with Akhenaten, he would not be the only one. And, his attitude towards archeologists is much in line with what people the world over feel when their ancestors are dug up and put in a display case, without a thought about what that person's culture might have had to say about such a thing.


As to your question about what people are looking for . . . I am not sure that I can answer that. I am not an archeologist, just someone who is interested in history. There are those, of course, who are only in it for the money. Tombs have been looted since ancient times, so there is nothing new there. Generally, though, looters are universally reviled.


Characterizing archeological work as a treasure hunt that never ends is true enough, although the "treasure" more often than not, is a name on the seal of a wine jug, or evidence of a species we did not know lived there at the time, or a hundred other little pieces of the puzzle. People love solving mysteries. I can not say why that drives people . . . that need to know . . .but it undoubtedly does. Perhaps they are searching for a connection to the past?
 
I was not going to post on this thread again. Mostly because this subject has become uncomfortable for me to talk about.. Its far to personal now


But something happened three weeks ago which I did not and still do not want to pass on, but my need to understand has become of great annoyance to me, maybe some can help.


I has a dream about my source. I fully understand and acknowledge our brains can and do play tricks on us which is often reflected in our dreams. So I do not fully dismiss that is what happened with me and this dream. Unlike other dreams it was very real to me and the connection to my source was exactly the same as when I'm meditating . I saw my source clearly. It was no different to seeing someone in the physical


This was no doubt that he was and is from Ancient Egypt


His face was long and brown and he had some dark makeup around his eyes. He was wearing a flowing white and red garment and also a white and red hat. Except for his face his whole appearance did not fit my expectations of what I thought Ancient Egyptians looked like. He smiled at me and said "Hello BB you must come from the west. I fully understood what he meant. I move my bed to the west side of my bedroom long ago


You now wear the Ankh BB (Which I have for several months now) You will always be protected by the Ankh


He had a green dog amulet around his neck. He took hold of the amulet raised it to his lips and kissed it. Then he gave me a what felt like a real loving smile and said, "BB your future duty to the gods are on the wings of the falcon" I have no idea what that means and these are the reasons for this post, hoping to get some guidance


Then for some reason which I don't understand and I had no control over I said to my source... "I want to go home"


He said BB There so much more for us to do


Then the dream ended


I researched the amulet and discovered it was the symbol of Anubis that my source kissed.. If this is real then all of this very significant, but I don't understand and cannot find the answers


As I said I do not fully dismiss that this dream was my brain playing tricks on me .


I now really know and understand the difficulty there is with dreams
 
Hi John,


I'm just chiming in to say welcome back! I have missed your presence and posts. This particularly includes your posts on this thread, which have seemed like a bit of an adventure as they unfolded a very distant past and offered new revelations on a very regular basis.


In terms of your query, I have some thoughts. However, I'd rather stay out of the way and see what Blueheart has to say first.


Cordially,


S&S :thumbsup:
 
Hello, again. Thanks for the update. I had been wondering how things were going.

John Tat said:
His face was long and brown and he had some dark makeup around his eyes. He was wearing a flowing white and red garment and also a white and red hat. Except for his face his whole appearance did not fit my expectations of what I thought Ancient Egyptians looked like.
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The colors, of course, might be symbolic or just dream-babble, but there was a well-known red and white "hat" called the Pschent, or double crown of ancient Egypt. The long white flowing garment was not unusual for men to wear, especially in . . . do you want to hear this? . . . the late 18th dynasty. It was often coupled with a long red sash or two.


They also did have dyed and woven fabrics, but not many examples have survived. White seems to have been preferable to show one was a person of means.

He smiled at me and said "Hello BB you must come from the west.
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Like with so many other things, the west had a deep spiritual significance for them. It was the realm of the dead. It was presided over by the "Foremost of the Westerners" who started out as a jackal. Later, the title was given to Osiris.


This is just a suggestion, of course, but perhaps you should look into Kemetism?

You now wear the Ankh BB (Which I have for several months now) You will always be protected by the Ankh
He had a green dog amulet around his neck. He took hold of the amulet raised it to his lips and kissed it.
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The green color might be because it was made of faience, a type of pottery that was often used to make amulets. The color varied from green to bright blue. Anubis is traditionally seen as black, but both black and green were symbolic of the land of the dead.

Then he gave me a what felt like a real loving smile and said, "BB your future duty to the gods are on the wings of the falcon"
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I can only give you my opinion. I think his (and your) plans for a future life are now well under way - awing and afoot, if you will. The falcon you have seen before, I think? He is Horus, son of Ra.

If this is real then all of this very significant
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Even if it is not "real", it can still be very significant.
 
Blueheart has again given me clues to follow up Also once again its interesting how many things I had no idea about then my source tells me and in the last case I dreamt about are proven to be accurate. What Blueheart said about Horus and the Pschent gave me clues to follow up. I have only just begun but this is what I have found so far


Horus was a very powerful god. It appears for some time he was king of the gods and I think pharaohs saw themselves being connected to him, or something like that, I have to find out more. He was depicted with a falcons head and what blew me away was he is also depicted wearing the Pschent which was and is a white and red crown, not what I said a white and red hat


What send shivers down my spine was how he is described Amongst other things he was and is the god of the sky. The sun is his right eye and the moon his left eye and they transversed the sky when he (Horus) the falcon flew across it.


My source told me that my future duty to the gods are on the wings of the falcon, That now has a whole new meaning for me


What I find very interesting is, and I only read a couple of paragraphs, was the story's of Horus and Jesus are almost identical, giving rise to a theory that the story of Jesus was taken straight out of Ancient Egyptian texts of Horus. I will have to find out more about that. But it may be one of the reasons why both myself and my source find many things of interest in the bible.


I had a quick look at Kemetism that appears interesting I must find out more


Thanks Blueheart
 
If you want to find out more about the Jesus/Horus connection


go to


WWW.considerthegospel.org/


When you get to the site you need to search the site for Jesus Horus


It only gives the arguments that the story of Jesus was taken from the story of the Ancient Egyptian god Horus


If you want the Christian side there is plenty around
 
Indeed. There are a lot of parallels between Jesus and Horus, also Jesus and various other religious or mythical figures. The theme of the death and rebirth is a common one in many traditions, so is the miraculous 'virgin' birth.


Many older religious beliefs and traditions were 'adopted' by the early Christians, along with many religious festivals like Easter.
 
Hi John,


I couldn't find anything at the link you give, but I am definitely aware of the connections made by some scholars between Christ and several mythic figures (and have read a bit of that kind of thing myself). Of course, there are other scholars (the great majority) who debunk such claims.


C. S. Lewis, the writer and classical scholar, who was very well aware of the teachings of the old myths and their often profound meanings, considered that God had spoken in two primary ways in history. First, by word and precept, conveying ethics and ideas by the word primarily through the lineage of Abraham. Second, speaking to most others generally by images and ideas given to them. In both cases, especially the latter, what was given was subject to debasement and distortion by fallible and often evil humans, sometimes to the point of abomination. However, the underlying profundity of Word and Myth/Archetype could still be seen if one looked closely enough. In one of his books, noting the place of myth in preparing the ground for the Truth in Jesus Christ, he has the Lord say:


"Child if you will, it is my mythology . . . This is My inventing. This is the veil under which I have chosen to appear even from the first until now. For this end I made your senses and for this end your imagination, that you might see My face and live . . . Have you not heard among the Pagans the story of Semele? Or was there any age in any land when men did not know that corn and wine were the body and blood of a dying and yet living God?"


From my standpoint, moving back into Paganism is a move backward. But sometimes it is necessary to go back a few steps if one has become trapped in outmoded and unproductive concepts in order to move forward along the correct path. Consequently, I see the rebirth of paganism in the West as being symptomatic of the gradual stamping out of the sense of the mystic, mysterious, miraculous, magical and profound in life/nature both from modern life and from modern Christianity. I'd rather see you believing in the divine via a more primitive form of the divine "myth" than trapped in the sterility of atheism. The latter is a dead end. I believe the former will, in due course, bring you further along the path to God.


Cordially,


S&S


PS--I thought only the Pharaoh wore the Pschent. Does that mean that your source was/is Pharaoh?


PPS--The above also implies that Christianity is also due for some readjustments in order to recover some of the features it has lost in modernity.
 
I'm keen to find out more about the gods Horus and Anubis. I have found far to much to post. It would be boring to most other than me.


I'm interested in Anubis because in my dream my source kissed the amulet of Anubis, the jackal and smiled at me


Anubis was the protector of tombs and the guide of souls. One of his roles was the guardian of the scales, which determined if souls entered the realm of the dead. He has been shown performing the measurement that determined if a person was worthy of entering the realm of the dead. Anubis dictated the fate of souls


The Anubis shrine was part of the grave of Tutankhamen, to which Blueheart would say wait for it... was during the 18th dynasty


The statue of Anubis was depicted completely in animal form was attached to the roof of he shrine. The jackal lying on the shrine was made from wood and painted black. The statue was wrapped in linen and again as Blueheart would say wait for it...between the front legs of the jackal was an inscribed tablet with the name of Akhenaten's eldest daughter Meritaten inscribed on it .. wow.. My source kissing the amulet of Anubis and smiling at me has far more meaning to it than I will ever know
 
I have been trying to find out more about the Pschent. Until Blueheart told me what I thought my source was wearing in my dream was a white and red hat was actually the Pschent I had never heard of it.


The Pschent combines the Red Deshret crown of Lower Egypt and the white Hodjet crown of Upper Egypt


S&S is right. The pharaohs wore it because it represented the pharaohs power over a unified Egypt


Both the gods Horus and Atum are depicted wearing the Pschent representing their special relationship with the pharaoh. I read Atum was depicted with the Pschent, but up until now have been unable to find an image of him wearing it


Through all of this ,I now completely understand for the first time I have no idea who me (the pure spiritual me) is, where I came from and what I have done. I don't know if that is how it is with many others, I would like to know.


Different to most of you I only have memories of events, passed on to the physical me my by pure spiritual self. I have no idea who the physical entities I occupied were and what they did other than the events they experienced with the pure spiritual me


In answer to S&S question was/is my source a pharaoh?. No


My pure spiritual self and my source are not the same. They are separate


My source is nothing more than a guide showing the pure spiritual me the way back. Back from what and for what reasons the physical me has no idea. For reasons I do not understand John Tat the physical has become involved in the process. It may appear to be interesting and some type of fun, but its far from that for John Tat. It's becoming a burden for many reasons including the physical is for some reasons driven to try and understand what is going on
 
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