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I believe most of us call the being you call "Source" a "guide" and they tend to have distinct personalities.


My pure spiritual self has also downloaded many experiences from its past individual entities, whose names I don't know. Thus leading me to investigate cultures such as ancient Japan (for instance) to discover what those experiences mean.


Names are rare. The experiences usually have an emotional component and social customs that must be connected to cultural patterns to be understood. It's usually a series of disconnected events from a single perspective. Those glimpses may fit together eventually to match a certain class of person and bring out a lot of cultural details I didn't know previously.


I receive these experience downloads as if I had stepped into the scene while meditating. Some people don't seem to see or feel the tangibility of this information, but instead are informed about it some other way.


I hope this gives you an idea of how similar your experiences may be to those we encounter. The terms we use often cause confusion for you, I think.


Part of my interest in your discoveries is because the mythology of Japan overlaps Egyptian myth in surprising ways. I wasn't aware how many commonalities there were between their origin stories, for instance.


This new discovery is intriguing. I wonder what you'll do next.


However, I do understand your frustration to some extent. I'm the type who wants to really understand it all (what happened? why? when? to whom?) and sometimes it feels like that isn't possible, or even the point of receiving the information.


It's useful, but not always "for historic knowledge and tangible application" as we tend to expect in the physical. These downloads often seem intended to create awareness and readiness to act within a wider pattern than would otherwise be available. The connection is like a tool to fuel a shift from one life trajectory to another I wouldn't have noticed without these experiences. My two cents, anyway.
 
Mere Dreamer


That's pretty much how it is with me. As you say it's very frustrating for the physical. As I said it gets to the point of being a burden, also again as I said the physical for reasons I do not understand is driven to try to understand.


I like you know were the connection is. Yours is Japan mine Ancient Egypt. That is the real surprise for me. I read over and over again peoples connections to certain things they have felt for long periods of their lives. Until recently I felt no connections whatsoever to Ancient Egypt. It was not until my source (guide) made contact did it all begin. Then some of the memories within the pure spiritual me began to filter through to the physical with surprizing accuracy


Its good to hear from someone that has the same experiences. Only if you have them can you fully understand what it is and how it happens


As you understand as soon as someone begins to talk about it you know if they are the same as you or not.


My source is guiding the spiritual me back to where I belong


That I know beyond any doubt. He told me I was lost to them for many spiritual cycles, which could be 10's 100's or even


1000's, I have no idea.


Now with my source I have to for fill something I committed to do to the gods long ago. What that is I have no idea . It is the only way I can do what I'm directed to do by the gods during future incarnations.. How you fit into all of this I have no idea. But as I told you long ago somehow you do.. Are you a warrior?


Regards
 
John Tat said:
He told me I was lost to them for many spiritual cycles, which could be 10's 100's or even
1000's, I have no idea.


Now with my source I have to for fill something I committed to do to the gods long ago. What that is I have no idea . It is the only way I can do what I'm directed to do by the gods during future incarnations.. How you fit into all of this I have no idea. But as I told you long ago somehow you do.. Are you a warrior?
If I were to categorize myself it would be as a healer (or a bridge/link/connector/anchor for misaligned perspectives). The idea of being a warrior doesn't mesh with me at all.


Oddly enough, during a distinctly different series of experience downloads that I've labeled "the Chinese goddess" (She was worshiped as a reincarnated "being" in an ancient, unknown country near Tibet.) I was informed that my pure spiritual self had "taken the difficult path." Part of that path involved Japan and incarnations in several other countries and eras as well.


Apparently, there was some concern that this choice could derail a long term plan, though if it worked there'd be a positive effect in key skills, connections, or knowledge. This incarnation is said to have resolved that path, whatever it was, or has begun to do so. It seems there is no longer a danger of "getting lost."


I honestly have no clue what was meant by that, or maybe I don't want to know. I write these thoughts down and wonder whether I'll understand it in retrospect.


Unlike you, I'm not prepping whatever it is I'm supposed to do for another incarnation. Guidance is directing me to act in this life, only I generally misunderstand how this works, I think. It tells me I'm where I should be right now, but I feel like I'm wasting time.


It's like walking on a glass bridge, and having no idea whether the next step is there till I put my foot down.


This choosing a trajectory "without knowing how to reach where I'm going" gets frustrating, especially when I have a strong sense I should be visiting Japan soon. I have no financial way to get there. I don't even have a specific activity to plan ... other than the promise that a path will open when the people I'm supposed to encounter are ready.


It makes me feel impatient ... and foolish for feeling so strongly about this without any tangible, supporting evidence. *sigh*


That being said, I think there are many people who are accomplishing unique tasks that are meant to fit together in a larger story.


I think most naturally find their effective placement within the physical, while people like me end up unexpectedly falling down the rabbit hole to be conveyed to the right place on time.


Only in the end it may be some pragmatic and normal decision without even a touch of the miraculous. It amuses me how many times I've obsessed over being unable to be where I felt I should be, only to realize years later that I arrived without noticing the accomplishment.
 
Mere Dreamer


I understood and can relate to everything you said


As I said the reality for the physical John Tat is.. I have no real idea who the pure spiritual me is, where I came from and what I have done... that is an absolute fact


When I say I have no idea what I have done, at a guess there is a small fraction of 1% that has been passed on to the physical which turned out to be somewhat accurate, other than that I have no idea who and what I am


Maybe that's how its meant to be for the physical. In reality there is no real need for John Tat to know and understand anything about the pure spiritual me and what must be done That's up to the next physical entity I occupy and me, after John Tat has died never to return


There is something going on though.. It feels like and I think I have talked about this before... the spiritual me is using this incarnation learning how to have greater control over the physical entity... You see the gods have no abilities to take physical actions in the physical.. That's the mistake they made. That I have been told by my source The only way the can impose their will in the physical is having physical entities in the physical controlled by an Akh transformed by the gods which they reincarnate back into the physical.. I'm sure you understand all of that. Christians would say their god moves in mysterious ways to impose his will in the physical. Its correct what you say.. for the pure spiritual me its all about future incarnations, not this one, and what I need to do during those future incarnations


Regards


Regards
 
Blueheart.. I was shown a similar image by my source while meditating last week. It was his way of showing our connection, so I went searching for a similar image to use.


I don't know what has happened with all of our recent posts I'm hoping they fix it otherwise the natural flow of all of the threads will be lost
 
Hi John,


I just thought I would check for an update on one of your earlier insights, that the gods were once men. Anything more on this?


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S


The event of the original gods going to the tribes of the Nile is of great importance to my source.. The description that was passed on to me and I will quote it again..A second sun appeared and for a time there were two suns. From the light of the second sun the gods appeared, they were the sun gods. My source talked about how the gods stayed with the tribes of the Nile for a time and amongst other things unified the tribes. When the gods left the second sun was gone. The arrival of the original gods the sun gods, was the beginning of the greatest civilization the world has seen. Without being told I was left with a clear understanding that without this contact from the original gods, the original tribes of the Nile would have never built the greatest civilization the world has seen..... getting to your question that the gods were once men.


No that is not right, my source never said that. In fact I asked that of him, and he told me to never ask him that again or doubt that the original gods the sun gods are and still are gods. The only real and true gods The sun gods who came from the light of the sun.. This is also connected to my source telling me that Ancient Egypt represented something, I believe it to be the gods, and what can be achieved when they have direct influence in the physical, which they are in the process of re establishing.


Regards
 
Hi John,


I think you may have given a very real and very deep answer to my inquiry and to have clarified the meaning of what you have just said by your own response to Deborah regarding her vision of a Golden Moon. As you noted:


"It may have had nothing to do with the moon. You saw a golden light with a silver shimmer and assumed it was a moon.. Maybe it was and maybe it wasn't. From what I have discovered light in any form coming from an inner vision is very likely your spiritual self reaching out to you. If that is what happened, then you need to ask why? you have to search for what is going on.. There are no words to describe such a contact.. If it is a contact from the spiritual you, there may be something going on you need some guidance with, from your spiritual self"


Now you've set me wondering how a much, much, much, much higher and more powerful "Spiritual Self" (or perhaps "Spiritual Selves") might and could manifest itself/themselves. Wouldn't it be like the difference between the sun and the moon in terms of power? Wouldn't such a being or beings be capable of not just an interior vision but an exterior manifestation? Or maybe what you are describing with regard to the sun gods was some type of corporate/group interior vision manifested to the early Egyptians. Either way, these questions and many more like them spring to mind based on your two contrasting comments.


In any case, it seems that a manifestation of this type could very easily mirror what you have just described in regard to the "sun gods".


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S


Your question about the light is very interesting.. What you are saying and I have never though about it this way before is... The inner vision of the light, weather it take the form of a sun, a moon, or any other form that is a contact to the physical entity from the pure spiritual us, may have the capacity to manifest into the physical. I would then assume the entities coming from the light of the sun would actually have been some type of physical form of the spiritual us, and that may be why my contact is positive those who appeared from the light of the sun were not physical but gods.. If you remember a long time ago on a different thread I talked about what had been passed onto me by my pure spiritual self, not my source, that its all about the spiritual becoming physical not the physical becoming spiritual, a complete reversal from what is currently believed is actually going on. That our ultimate destiny was for the spiritual us to take physical form.. What you have suggested fits hand in glove with what I have been told.


I'm going to have to give plenty of thought and plenty of mediation to what you said. I will get back to you


Regards
 
I don't know what has happened with all of our recent posts I'm hoping they fix it otherwise the natural flow of all of the threads will be lost
If needed, I can sum up. No worries.
 
S&S


After several mediations I believe I now have a better understanding about the sun your query, if the gods coming from the sun may have been some type of manifestations. As I have said before it no longer surprises me how over and over again things come together and makes sense and/or clarifies something I was told about before.. The gods are the sun gods not manifestations or anything else. They were and still are gods, the gods who came from the light of sun, the only true gods, and both me and my source serve them .. Getting back to your query ..As you know both Deborah and Blueheart on another thread talked about visions of a moon type light.. Bluehearts vision was more like the moon itself.


As I said on the thread it was my belief, the visions of the light was a contact from their spiritual self, and was not in fact a moon.. During my recent meditations when I asked my source about the sun and the gods coming from the light of the sun, amongst other things he showed me the god Horus... Horus the falcon god, is amongst other things the god of the sky, and when he, the falcon flys across the sky the sun and moon transversed. Horus's right eye is the sun and his left the moon. With all of my understandings this fully answers any questions I could ever ask my source about this subject, others may not have the same understandings, and this would also answer any questions both Deborah and Blueheart could have about their visions.. They were spiritual, just as the gods are the gods nothing else. As I said I'm no longer surprise how the small pieces of the jig saw puzzle fit together over period of time


Blueheart... it would be a great help if you could do that for me


Regards
 
Ok. Well, you were mulling over the dream where your source showed himself to you. In it, he was wearing an Anubis amulet, and you wondered if there was a connection between Horus (the falcon) and Anubis (the jackal). You found a picture from the Theban tomb of Ramesses I, which showed the king being led onward by a Horus-type on one side, and a Anubis-type on the other.


The picture you picked was interesting to me, because Ramesses I started out life as Paramessu, and only took on the name Ramesses when he became king, the last few years of his life. I know that Wikipedia says that he likely came from a wealthy, connected family, but I have problems with this characterization. (I know it is not terribly important to your spiritual search, but indulge me. ) I would argue that his wealth and connections all came from one man - his buddy, the commoner, Horemheb - as Horemheb rose to power. Otherwise, one must ask, why was Ramesses not made king before Horemheb?


Horemheb was the last king of the 18th dynasty, but the 19th dynasty kings (Ramesses I, Seti, Ramesses II) looked to him as their benefactor and the founder of their Great House. Horemheb, and Paramessu / Ramesses I, had careers before they became kings, and as it so happens, in the prime of their lives, they would have been smack dab in the middle of the religious dust-up created by Akhenaten. Horemheb was Akhenaten's general. He continued this role for Akhenaten's son, Tutankhamun, and became one of Tutankhamun's closest advisors and his only designated heir. I always picture Paramessu there alongside Horemheb, taking over the positions his boss just vacated.
 
That is about it for the history of the image you chose. Both Horemheb and Paramessu/Ramesses I spent their kingships restoring the temples of the gods Akhenaten ignored, and bringing back the old ways. Horemheb had Akhenaten's city, the Horizon of the Aten, torn apart, brick-by-brick, loaded onto ships, and then used as filler in his restoration projects, such as for Amun's temple back in Thebes. I will get to the more spiritual aspects of the image you found on another day.
 
Now, onto composition . . . . Just a quick disclaimer. I doubt anyone truly knows "what it means."


Both Horemheb and Paramessu had tombs prepared for them in Thebes. They both feature similar figures on the same slate-blue background. A part of the visual story is dedicated to the Souls of Pe and Nekhen. Pe and Nekhen were towns, one in lower Egypt, one in upper. The souls of these two towns (so, basically, all of Egypt) are shown leading the king off to have his Ba rejuvenated. The Souls are more commonly shown kneeling, with one arm upraised in a right angle, and in fact, if you search around, you can find these pictures too.


It has been theorized that this gesture was one that the king would have made as he received the kingship. It would have been repeated at a jubilation ceremony, if he lived long enough to to have one, in which the king would be "rejuvenated" and shown fit to still rule. Others have also said that this was something that would have happened after physical death.


The process of judging and weighing the heart and the "second death" if you failed (being eaten by Ammit) was discussed a bit in this thread. Lots of people are familiar with "the Book of the Dead." What you chose when you posted that picture, though, was a tomb that features "The Book of Gates." It is very similar.


Perhaps, there is a Christian connection to this book. (Remember, "Lift up your heads, oh ye gates, and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors. And the king of glory shall come in?) Another synchronicity for you, there.


Anyway, the soul had to pass through a number of trials, even after his heart was weighed and judged worthy on the scales of Ma'at. Afterwards, he would get to join Horus and the other gods on Horus' boat, traversing the sky in the morning, and the underworld at night, and making his home in the Field of Reeds.
 
Hi John,


I'm not sure what you are saying in your post #190. Are you saying that the idea or image of the second Sun with the gods coming out of it is spiritual and not physical (i.e., not something that tangibly physically happened with gods proceeding from an actual physical sun or sun-like object)?


If spiritual, was/is this a visionary occurrence? Who experienced the vision? Does it stand for a theological truth--i.e., the other gods proceed from Horus, with the Sun as the "eye of Horus" representing this fact?


Sorry, I'm not trying to be a pain, but I do have trouble understanding whether--if physical--you are talking about a "real" sun (i.e., an enormous ball of gas undergoing nuclear fusion) or just something having the appearance of a sun. Likewise, if a physical sun wasn't involved, what is going on, a spiritual vision given to the people of the Nile or ?


BTW--I'm perfectly at home with the idea of visionary experiences conveying great truths, theological or otherwise, I'm just trying to understand what happened, how it happened, and who it happened to.


Thanks,


S&S


PS--Once again, I'm not trying to be insulting or be a pain, I just want to understand a bit more about it. After all, this is not something that involves just you. If what you are receiving is correct about the next phase of your existence, it will involve acting with the gods to bring order out of chaos and will ultimately impact all of us, whether in this earthly lifetime or a subsequent earthly lifetime.
 
Hi S&S


As I say over and over again what is communicated to be my source is proven to be accurate.. He said a light appeared that was exactly the same as the sun and for a time there were two lights exactly the same. He never said it was a sun. My physical perspective was the tribes of the Nile would have thought for a time there were two suns.. My source has confirmed that. The tribes of the Nile believed the original gods were sun gods who came from the light of the sun. My source referring to it as a light exactly the same as the sun properly says it all.. Its irrelevant what the light was, my source refers to them as the sun gods, and my understanding is, the foundations of the entire Egyptian religion was based around the gods who came to the tribes of the Nile, the sun gods, the gods who came from the light of the sun.. This event began not only the Egyptian religion, but an understanding of the spiritual, that has been completely lost.. The eyes of Horus, the sun and the moon is just one very small example, and that is only a fraction of what Horus is and represents. To this day people see both sun and moon type lights in their visions, which also are not physical suns and moons, and those who have had NDE"S all report seeing a sun type light they go to, a light I would guess very similar to what the gods came from to be with the tribes of the Nile, the gods came from the light they did not go through the light but later went back through the light after their work was done


Regards
 
Hi John,


I Just posted a thread on Kemetic Monaltry under Tea and Coffee Palace that I would like you to review. It relates to the image/idea of the gods coming from the Sun, as I understand it, but perhaps not as you understand it--or maybe the other way around.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Since the above post by S&S the discussion about my information from a source has been on the thread Kemetic Monaltry under the discussion area Tea and Coffee Place


If you have any interest in understanding the current flow of what we are talking about then it would be best to read that thread.


S&S The sites you sent me to in some ways confirmed what my source often talks , even though those sites never said it They just in some round about ways reminded me of a very important fact my source sometimes refers to. Even though the original gods unified the tribes and they became Egyptians, Ancient Egypt was still very tribal.


The pharaohs and high priests were always playing some sort of juggling act to keep all of the tribes happy. As I have always said I'm not a scholar on Ancient Egypt I can only go by what my source tells me the do some research to try and confirm that. For some time now my brain can no longer cope with hours of study and flicking through hundreds of images. So now I go by what my source tells me some research then if I'm really stumped I come to the forum looking for guidance for answers and referring to Wikipedia.


The following is half a guess and half putting together what I have been told. Because Ancient Egypt was tribal the first responsibility of a new pharaoh and properly high priests, was keeping the tribes happy and unified. That could be the reasons many areas (tribes) had there own gods which a pharaoh would incorporate some into his realm of gods.. You talked about the twelve Jewish tribes. After I asked my source about Moses and the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt and he had no knowledge of either you said that Moses and the Exodus is a myth, which I find fascinating, but brutally honest from a religious person as yourself That the foundations of the Judeo Christian religion is a myth
 
Hi John, I think you misread my last message. I definitely believe in the Exodus, Moses, etc., though I’m not sure about the timeline and how it would be reported in the history of Egypt (if it is reported at all). What I commented about was the position of mainstream historians and Egyptologists that it was a myth. (I also commented that many of these same folks felt the same way about the very famous city of Troy until it was located). Cordially, S&S PS—In terms of the timing, I provided a couple of alternatives that I consider likely.
 
The Moses and Exodus issue is a non issue to my source. He has no knowledge of either.. Amongst other things I'm always trying to understand more and know about are the tribes of Ancient Egypt. The original tribes go way back to the beginning, that is why there evolution going forward is of great interest to me. My source also talks about the tribes of the West and East, which looking at a map of the times is not difficult to work out what tribes he is talking about. He has littler respect for them which I have a basic understanding why..He also talks about are the tribes of Vatla, which I have researched and have not found a country and also have no idea what that country is or it maybe it is a name of its leader. All I found on a search was a village in Western Estonia and a 16th century manor in Germany, but they are not relevant. It must be an ancient name, He puts these tribes in the same category as the tribes of the West and East. As I said I really would like to have a better understanding of the evolution of the tribes of Ancient Egypt
 
Hi John,


I'm not too worried about what your source does or doesn't know about Moses/Exodus. I think his areas of knowledge have more to do with the ancient tribes and the gods. I assume when you speak of these other tribes to the East and West, you are speaking of tribes that were not the tribes of the Nile, but those to the East or West. In the Bible, I believe that Mizraim was the progenitor of most of the tribes of Egypt, with Cush the ancestor of those in the far South, Phut and Lud to the West, and Canaan to the East. These are, of course, Hebrew versions of their names, so I am not sure what the differences would be at the time in Egypt in terms of writing/pronunciation. Like you, I am at a loss for the moment in terms of Vatla. In terms of modern names for some of the oldest cultures, according primarily to places where artifacts were found, you may want to google Badarian culture (Lower Egypt) and Fayum culture (Upper Egypt). These seem to be some of the oldest identified.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S


I'm keen to know more about the tribes of Ancient Egypt. This is one of three issues I'm focused on at present. Where it has always been difficult for me is trying to align what my source has passed onto me to what is both known and believed to have happened.


I cannot rely on what is believed to have happened. Interruptions of know facts are often both varied and inclusive, which is also a problem for me.


I'm just not talking about the tribes with these problems but also about Ancient Egypt in general. Also I'm keen to both know and understand about the tribes of the whole area. I'm keen to learn more about the 12 tribes of the Israelites. Are they know to have been a fact or just a myth?.. I keen to understand how and why the lineage of some of the family's of the 12 tribes is so well documented, when all other tribes do not have that. I just need to have a better understanding


Through my source I'm only beginning to have a better understanding of the interactions between the tribes of Ancient Egypt and the bonds that unified them. It appears to me with the little understanding I presently have, they were complicated and interwoven bonds, with the gods of the tribes a central part of those bonds.


I have no doubts there were tribes of Vatla, otherwise my source would never have singled them out. It is very likely both the name and spelling of the name are not completely accurate, but would have been very similar. This is were I run into brick walls. My interruption of what my source called them was Vatla which is almost certainly an ancient name, very likely lost to history. But later on could have been given another name , a name that is known today


I think I know why my source needs me to have a better understanding about the tribes and how they functioned.. It all goes back to the original gods and the original tribes and what was put in place at that time


Regards
 
All very interesting John. Keep us posted. I wouldn't worry about 'spelling'. Just write it out phoneticly if you come across an unfamiliar word.
 
Hi John,


One thing to bear in mind about the Biblical accounts in the Old Testament is that they are a bit of a family history. They cover the basics going all the way back, but only seek to be exhaustive to the extent they concern the descendants of Jacob/Israel who became the 12 tribes of Israel, and are the focus of the Old Testament narrative. Hence, the Biblical treatment of the other descendants of Shem (from whom Israel descended) are thinner than that given to the line of Jacob/Israel. Likewise, the treatment given to the descendants of the other two sons of Noah: Japheth (who went North) and Ham (from whom the Egyptian tribes appear to have come) is thinner still. However, the following Wikipedia article sets forth the various genealogies given, with links to articles on the named descendants. So it is a good starting point for research. You may wish to pay special attention to Mizraim and the listed descendants of Mizraim, and perhaps to some extent of Cush. However, even here, you're going to run into problems because all of these names are likely those given by the Israelites, and may not reflect the names you would know them by as the tribes of Egypt. (This is particularly true because the Bible says there was a confusion of tongues that took place with languages being divided, apparently, by families). If the names are different, you may still be able to make some connection based on the traditional geographical locations of various tribes. In any case, I hope it may be of some use to you.


Cordially,


S&S


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_the_Bible
 
Thanks S&S any direction I can get I really appreciate


My searches takes me on varied paths and area's. Yesterday I was wondering what the word Vatla meant below is where I found its meaning


vatla.meaningdef.com


It's extremely unlikely the meaning of the word has any connection to the tribes my source talked about.. But as often happens, it has me wondering, what he is actually referring to/and or talking about when he passes information onto me
 
Hi John,


Your last post has been on my mind for the last few days. For some reason, whether rightly or wrongly, I keep returning to the Moses/Exodus scenario at Exodus 24:4. It occurred to me that Aardman, the person who gave an earlier date for Moses/Exodus around 2450 BC, had shown a site where he believed this ceremony may have taken place, and where pillars and an altar had in fact been set up at some very early date:


http://www.biblicalchronologist.org/answers/sinai_location.php


As I thought about this, and reviewed the idea that Moses was said to be learned in all of the wisdom of the Egyptians, it made me wonder whether he was not only copying an earlier ceremony of setting up pillars (which you allude to in terms of the tribes entering Egypt), but whether he was also enacting the whole thing in reverse—i.e., whether he knew where the ceremony took place, and was taking the tribes of Israelites out of Egypt via the same route, past the same location where the original ceremony of the tribes entering Egypt took place, and perhaps even used the same location if not the remains of the same pillars (if they were still standing after such a gap of time), in his own ceremony.


If so, the location cited by Aardman might be of great interest to you. So, I looked some more into this spot and found that it had been a location in ceremonial usage since the stone age—i.e., it is very early indeed, with maximum usage between 2350-2000 BC, but with artifacts indicating usage dating back tens of thousands of years. It had apparently been a ceremonial center in the area for millennia. So, it was probably in use (at least potentially) at the time the Egyptian tribes first entered Egypt as well as when Moses led the Israelite tribes out of Egypt (c. 2450 BC by Aardsman’s calculations). You can find out a bit about the location on Wikipedia here:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har_Karkom


But there is far more information to be found on this site, which has copious amounts of information as well as a lot of photographs you can browse:


http://www.harkarkom.com/Sanctuaries.php?more=all


Of course, this may not amount to anything useful for you, but who knows.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S Thanks for the above. As I always do when others refer me to information I have printed them out and will study what they have to say... It's important though to keep in mind where I prayed in front of the pillars was flat land covered in rocks and I have no memories of any mountains.. There was something else which I cannot remember, it must have been important because it really haunts at my brain... It's very difficult for me to put into perspective all of the time lines and events within those timelines. I fully understand I come across as weird when I talk about events such as the original gods, something from way out in left field never known about before. But that will not stop me from reporting some of the important things me source passes on. I feel the frustration of my source that many of the interruptions of sites, events, remains and so on are so very wrong. I'm also beginning to understand for most of what is believed to have happened and what artefacts and sites represent are in many cases at the very best misinterpretations. Experts having no knowledge of the original gods is way beyond my comprehension and a true indication of how they analyse and the understandings they have of what they find


Regards
 
Hi John,


At this point, I probably need more fuel for the engine--i.e., I need more info to fire me up and drive research. The information you have given regarding the pillars, the information regarding the sun gods, etc. gives me something tangible to work with in terms of trying to figure things out, but I feel like I'm at a stopping point at the moment without further tangible data which, in its best form, seems to be based on your own memories rather than your source. So, if you have anything more, please let me know.


As always, very interesting stuff, especially your memories--which are striking and evocative.


Best,


S&S
 
S&S I have many memories of events my spiritual self experienced.. The problem is and as I have said is putting a timeline on them and knowing which are really true, half true or imagination.. For example one that is very clear to me has to do with the original gods which my spiritual self experienced while occupying a physical entity. There was myself and four others who performed a religious ceremony at the sacred site.. Keeping in mind we were totally illiterate, had no abilities to write anything so we recorded events and other things by carving drawings into rock and stone. At the sacred site we had five tablets (stones) and engraved on them were images of the original gods as they appeared to us, looking like pharaohs. During the ceremony we buried them so they could be found at another time as a record of this monumental spiritual event. I know one day they will be found and when they are dated it will show the world that thousands of years before pharaohs came into existence in Ancient Egypt the original gods, the sun gods came to the tribes in the images of the pharaohs.. This is a very clear memory, but what use is that to anyone at this time


Regards
 
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