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Hi Deborah,


I hate to jump in when you and John seem to be on a roll, but splitting the thread would probably just end up spreading the info around where it would be harder to find and put together. We briefly had a separate thread going on the religion(s) of ancient Egypt ("Kemetic Monaltry"), and ended up largely merging back into this thread because this info that John is getting was what was driving the discussion on the other thread and really belonged in this location and not elsewhere.


Just my suggestion.


Cordially,


S&S
 
OK, I can understand that. I've been so busy with the new software and glitches I should probably read this thread from the beginning.


I will come back tomorrow and continue :wink::cool:
 
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In this photo, you can see the ankh being held. I've also seen photos of it where it was held out in front of the person holding it, like a lantern. This always suggested to me and it also feels right, that it was a more tool and less of a religious symbol.


I should probably build one or find one and see if I can detect any energy coming off of it. I'm pretty good at detecting energy fields, in fact my wife's aunt's boyfriend is from Egypt and he's spent a lot of time researching the pyramid. He gathered a bunch of stones from the actual quarries that were used in making the great pyramid and used them to make model chambers in a scale pyramid. I spent some time with him measuring the flow of energy out of his model. interestingly, the model did not radiate energy, it only projected it out of the top, to a distance of about two or three feet.


I was also able to get an energy flow out of the cardboard pyramids I used to make as a kid, so I don't know how dependent the design was on the actual stones. It was good thinking though. I agree with him though that there exists a different type of energy that exists that most people either don't notice or can't detect. I'm sure animals can without a doubt.


What's really interesting about the pyramids is what this energy was used for. I'm not sure of the scale, but it would obviously be projected into the atmosphere and possibly the van allen belt.
 
I went to one of Gregg Bradens workshops recently and back in 2005 I think it was. There were many other aspects of this workshop/lecture that was so fascinating. His book The God Code explains DNA and God's name within us.


Some of this stuff is hard to explain but I'll try. :) He told us that scientists have been researching the three sided pyramid, and the implications of this pyramid shape within the structure of DNA in our bodies. One such experiment had them baffled!


They constructed a three sided crystal pyramid and then placed it on white paper in the middle of the day. The suns light was directly above the crystal pyramid. What appeared amazed them all. There were intersecting circles (shadows) - which is cool - BUT it was the formation of HEBREW letters within those circles - that they have yet to explain!!!!!!!!!!!!


From this experiment Gregg suggested that the interaction between Light and Form - manifests as divine inspiration within the body. That the Hebrew letters where a physical manifestation of the interaction between Light and Form. He went on to explain that although we each experience God/Spirit - in a unique fashion - that each individual receives and responds differently to that divine inspiration. In other words - the MATRIX of communication is interpreted in a unique fashion by each of us.


Is anyone going to his lectures? What are your thoughts about how LIGHT interacts with FORM and how LIGHT transforms into an ancient language when interacting with a crystal pyramid?
 
This video is fascinating. Scientists are seeing the Great Pyramid as an energy source and possibly used to raise and fine tune the consciousness of mankind/humankind. Pyramid Power

Could the Ancient Egyptians have been more intellectually developed than we are today? Could they have a better understanding of subtle energies than we do now? If these structures weren’t built for tombs, what was the purpose of their construction? This show examines scientific evidence regarding the engineering and high science that was used to build pyramids and temples. Scientists take an in-depth look at the source of power that exists within pyramids and how this power was applied in the ancient world. Today’s science is just be beginning to grasp what these evolved cultures understood long ago, uncover the mysteries today.
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The ankh also known as breath of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata (Latin meaning "cross with a handle"), was the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphic character that read "life", a triliteral sign for the consonants Ayin-Nun-Het.
The character represents the concept of life, which is the general meaning of the symbol. The Egyptian gods are often portrayed carrying it by its loop, or bearing one in each hand, arms crossed over their chest. The ankh appears in hand or in proximity of almost every deity in the Egyptian pantheon (including Pharaohs). Thus it is fairly and widely understood as a symbol of early religious pluralism: all sects believed in a common story of eternal life, and this is the literal meaning of the symbol. This rationale contributed to the adoption of the ankh by New Age mysticism in the 1960s.


The ankh symbol was so prevalent that it has been found in digs as far as Mesopotamia and Persia, and even on the seal of the biblical king Hezekiah.[1]
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Hi Deborah The references you are sending us to are great. I have only had a short time to have a brief look over them. Will really study them later. With the Egyptian gods reference, in my brief look at it, the section under "Origins" caught my attention. That the basis and/or beginnings of the Ancient Egyptian deities began in prehistoric religious beliefs, which appears to me could be linked to what I have been talking about. Something I have never seen before is conformation in real terms what I have been told. That the tribes of the Nile were the beginnings of the Egyptians of Ancient Egypt, and were unified by the knowledge of the original gods, the sun gods . In the reference you sent me to they were described in a different manner. They described them as small independent villages in predynastic Egypt. The symbols the gods are wearing, what they are, the order they are in, is in my opinion significant in many ways including the origins of the Egyptian religion
 
Hi Deborah.. I was thinking about your suggestion of starting another thread "Egypt" I would prefer to leave that up to you, It's OK with me.. You know what is best.. What you may have to consider is how many posts you would need to include so the context of what is going on is not lost


Regards
 
Hi John,


It seems to me that you may be entering a phase where your preferred source of information (outside of your own meditation/spiritual self and source) is, and probably should be, first hand accounts received from, or written down by, others based on their own lives in Ancient Egypt. Of course, Egypt is a very ancient civilization, and many lived there at different times and places--often involved in quite prosaic occupations that don't really impact your quest. However, it seems that those with the clearest memories are those who were in some way associated with the priestly class or otherwise received whatever specialized training was offered there. So, that's a help.


In any case, I just ran across the story of Dorothy Eades, an English girl who had very complete memories of her prior life as an Egyptian Priestess, and had her own "source" that served to assist her in terms of regaining what she may have forgotten. She returned to Egypt and lived out her life practicing the ancient faith and deeply involved with the antiquities of Egypt (where she became known as Ohm Seti (with a variety of spellings)). You may be disappointed to learn that she assisted and became prominent in Egyptology, but overall I think you will be interested in reading about her. She was able to effect healings based on old Egyptian methods and magic, and one of her quotes reminds me of the things you have been talking about:


“Magic in ancient Egypt was a science,” she noted. “It was really magic, and it worked.”


There are many articles as well as videos about her, this might be a good place to start: http://www.templeharakhte.org/Omm_Sety.html


And of course, there is good ol' Wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Eady


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi S&S Thanks for the above. I read it all with great interest. Ohm Seti is very different to me.. She had complete memories when I do not. I very much wish I did. As you know different to her I have no idea or concept of who I was..That may be a result of what I believe that I had many incarnations into the tribes of the Nile and Ancient Egypt. I'm only shown events that are memories of my spiritual self that are activated my source that he wants me to see. There is no doubt I'm being prepared for future incarnations, unlike Ohm Seti who was only concerned about the past. Mine is a completely different journey.. The original and only true gods the sun gods are also only concerned about the future not the past.. The skills and knowledge being reactivated of the old ways are tools for me for the future and have nothing to do with anyone or anything else. That is why I will never, never disclose the symbols worn by the original gods the sun gods and those around the spiritual disk.. The symbols, what they are and the sequences they are in are both sacred and display the knowledge of the gods.. They are never to be disclosed to anyone. What I found interesting about Ohm Seti was how she came about her knowledge She was head strong and a handful for her parents, so was I. After an accident at a very young age the doctor pronounced her dead and after that it all began. I after a near death experience It all began for me not about Egypt to begin with by my connection to my spiritual self. This may not mean anything because many others would have had exactly the same happen to them with nothing happening.. What is really interesting to me is she told her parents "she wanted to go home" Just as I have said to my source and reported that on this forum.. This "wanting to go home" has far more religious significance than just wanting to go home to Ancient Egypt


Regards
 
As a follow up to my reactivation of memories within my spiritual to the physical I will talk about the different levels of real within the spiritual us. The physical me needs this education to have greater control over spiritual experiences and the dying process of the physical. As I have said I only went to tenth grade at school and all of this complex knowledge comes from my spiritual self. I touched on these different levels of real time in Parapsychology, in the thread called "when there's a need the spirit comes"


I'm only at the beginning of understanding.


I have no real understandings other than a basic understanding of Einstein's theory of relativity. The more I understand about these different levels of real time within the spiritual us the more it appears to me the theory of relativity is a factor in some form or another to our spiritual self and the incarnations it (we) have. Ancient Egyptians had a complete understanding of this and used it to there advantage. I have no idea who I was but the spiritual me has all of this knowledge and much more within it.


First of all the levels (wave lengths) of real time are not all on the same levels within the spiritual us. Just as time in space and earth are on different levels of real time


Within the spiritual us there is a different level of real time for each and every incarnation we have. I understand that sounds complicated. I understand. but there are no words to describe my understandings, if you know what I mean.


All of our physical memories during our current incarnation are recorded in real time as they are actually happening. The physical can and does change these memories recorded in real time around to suit itself, but that does not change what was originally recorded. More importantly our spiritual self is also recording these memories in real time, on a real time level for the current incarnation, and different to the physical, it has no need to change them around. All of these spiritual self memories being recorded in real time for the current incarnation are subjected to some form of the theory of relativity during future incarnations


I have seen the original gods, the sun gods in real time when they were here thousands of years ago. This is some form of time travel which Ancient Egyptians fully understood and used to there advantage. They were more than capable of time travelling within themselves, through the real time memories of there spiritual self over countless incarnations.


It's these different wave lengths (levels) of real that prevents us from having meaningful previous incarnation memories. Our physical brains are not tuned into these different levels of real time within the spiritual us. I have no idea how regressions fits into these different levels of real time.


The spiritual us never dies, its all one life. The only distinction our spiritual self has for each of its incarnations are these different levels of real time for each incarnation


Another level of real time memories which I'm just beginning to understand and experiment with is, when two or memories blends together and become just one memory


I will give an example . Recently I talked about two events. The first was when I was at the sacred site and knelt before one of the pillars and prayed. The other event was when I was at the sacred site with the others and was burying the stones with the carvings on them Both of these memories have blended into one memory. I now have only one memory of the sacred site, recorded in real time as they were happening.


The dying process is on another level of real time for both the physical and spiritual us. On the physical side one second of physical time could either be one hour or a fraction of a second of real time during the dying process of the physical. On our spiritual self side of things I think it takes the same mount of real time for all of our spiritual self's to go through the process and then reincarnate. Depending on what level of real time our spiritual self is on during the process, in physical time that could be anytime between one minute and hundreds of years. Ancient Egyptian fully understood that and may have had some control it


PS I just read the post. For the first time I referred to another group as "the others" . As I have said a number of times my source talks about me joining "the others" in the physical, in my next incarnation. I wonder if "the others" are those who were there with me at the sacred site thousands of year ago, and we are bound together by a spiritual event
 
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Hi John,


Your last two posts are, as usual, very interesting. And, as usual, you are past the point where much tangible support can be offered because you are so far beyond what we currently think of as "known". You have become a bit like one of the old explorers who sailed beyond the borders and boundaries of the "known" world on the old maps--off into the vague areas at the edges where the old maps got whimsical with pictures of sea serpents and other mythical creatures. The only difference is that you can report back to the folks "back home" via these posts. And, like ancient cartographers, we scurry around trying to find something in the old records that match up with the things you are reporting, including the reports of "other explorers"--in this case--others who report from their own PLs in ancient Egypt.


Consequently, I continue to explore in terms of accounts of Egyptian past lives. The problem is finding any who have memories that go back as far as you want to go. There are two more I have located at this point that go much farther back than the PL of Om Sety. BTW--I agree that you also may have had numerous PLs in ancient Egypt, but it is clear that you are being directed back to the very earliest eras, earlier than known history takes us. So, from that standpoint, the account of someone like Om Sety may be interesting--and shows you that you are not alone--but it does not go back far enough to get you to the type of information you are seeking. Also, though it is possible that the information you talk about was still being preserved in the time of Om Sety, this does not mean that it would have been known to a young priestess who died at an early age. Even then, it may have been only accessible to those at the highest levels of esoteric knowledge.


Anyhow, it is clear that Om Sety's memories do not go beyond the edge of the "map" in the way that your memories do. I will look into the two PL accounts that look interesting and let you know if there is anything that looks promising there. I peeked at some stuff on one that related to time travel within that remind me of the kind of things you are discussing above, so there may be something interesting to you in that one, but frankly some of it seemed so strange that I was hesitant to explore further or to recommend. Of course, we are definitely in the land of the strange here, so who knows . . . .


Also, I understand where you are coming from in terms of the differences between you and Om Sety in terms of past vs. future. It reminds me of a saying I heard once when beginning meditation. It compared meditation to the bow, where the farther you pull it back ("in") the farther your arrow will go. What you are being drawn to (pun intended) seems somewhat similar. You seem to be pulled waaaaaay back so that you can spring forward into a planned future lifetime that draws directly on what you experienced/knew in those far distant times. There were other PLs in Egypt after this, but you seem to be focused on the one or ones that are most important to the future.


Cordially,


S&S
 
Hi John,


A slight addition--what you mention in terms of a real time record of events that can be accessed reminds me of the reputed Akashic Record, which is purported to be a complete record of everything (thought, word, deed, event, etc.) that has ever happened anywhere at anytime. It supposedly can be accessed to experience things or view things from the past, though the future seems a bit more iffy. However, actually accessing to communicate between different times or otherwise impact a past time is even more iffy from what I can tell. Tanguerra reported having communications with one of her PL selves, so that may represent a case in point.


S&S
 
Hi S&S I was more than aware before I posted these recent posts I would come across as weird, wacky, and delusional. That does not concern me. As you have intimated. Years ago anyone who believed the world was not flat would have been perceived the same way (that's only one example of hundreds).. As a young child if I had told my grandfather one day we will talk to machines on the telephone, that one day we will travel to the moon, that one day we will sell water and make huge profits, and on and on, he would have thought I was really wacky


I think most still have problems with defining who they really are. They still believe previous physical entities they occupied are important.. To know and understand memories are recorded in real time is not difficult. Then to broaden that out that if you can access the real time memories of your spiritual self then you are seeing them as they were recorded in "real time" is what would happen is also not difficult to understand . I have no intentions or desires for anyone to understand and believe what I have talked about. Thousands of different levels of real time exist within the spiritual us. For me that is now factual, just as it is factual there are 24 different levels of real time on earth, created by the rotation of the earth. Everyone living in these time zones are living in real time, which is not the same real time as in the other 23 zones . The problem, just as it has been since the beginning of time is, theories and assumptions becomes the truth for the believers. That is at it worst in the community of those who believe in reincarnation


Regards
 
Hi John,


I'm not sure if you are saying that I intimated that you are coming across as weird, wacky, and delusional, or that this would concern you. Nothing of the type was intended. If I didn't take you seriously, I would not be following you. Likewise, I am aware that--from your standpoint--your experiences don't require the vaIidation of anyone on this board. So, that's not in my mind either. I'm just very interested. As I implied above, you are like an explorer sending back messages from beyond known territory, and I am very curious about what is "there".


Overall, I think you are sincerely and truthfully reporting things as you perceive them (to the extent you think it OK to disclose things and the limitations of mere words allow). However, that doesn't mean that I accept the "sun gods" as being divine beings, or necessarily trust what your source is telling you to be true. I don't necessarily distrust your source, I'm just unsure about the matter, and about his ultimate intentions. I'm not intending to insult him by saying this, I just don't know him like you do.


Likewise, the fact that I don't see the beings referred to as the sun gods as divinities does not mean that I don't think they are extremely powerful and god-like beings of some type. Once again, I am unsure what to think. However, if it helps you to understand my own limited conceptions, I believe that entities take on more and more of the quality of the divine as they ascend towards the divine and move up the scale of being. Hence, the highest in the angelic hierarchy will seem very god-like to humankind, as they radiate a great deal of divine power and sanctity. This is as close as I can come to conceptualizing them at the moment. This is especially true as I do not have your personal experience with them to aid me in forming my beliefs.


Anyhow, no insults were intended on my part.


Cordially,


S&S
 
HI S&S Thanks for that.. I think my concerns about what I talked about were generated from myself.. It s very difficult to talk about things most would be and I understand why, very sceptical. At a point you have to make the decision between the fear of putting yourself "out there" and passing on what you have found to be true through your experiences. There is a big difference between physical memory and spiritual memory, that I know beyond any doubt whatsoever. This I'm reluctant to pass on in fear of appearing to question the beliefs people have in their previous incarnation memories.. I said I will never pass on the symbols the sequenced the gods were wearing.. If you think it may help in what you are doing I would be happy to post a drawing of what they were wearing


Regards
 
Hi John,


I don't think you have any duty to worry about offending other people's sensibilities in terms of reincarnation beliefs. There are variations and disagreements, but people on the board remain friendly. The idea that the spirit may be gendered is a point in dispute, but I am one who agrees with you on the point. Our only point of disagreement is that I think that souls/spirits may occasionally take lives as the opposite gender, probably to broaden their perspective, and you do not. Not much of a big deal there. There is also not a lot of agreement in terms of what I would call theological matters--i.e., whether there is a god (or gods), what is that god (or gods) like, etc.? So, once again, there is a diversity of viewpoints on these issues as well. Finally, though you may not have recognized it as such, you may be coming down on the side of another issue that has been talked about before--with disagreeing sides--whether the soul may be seen as (by choice or otherwise) ethnic in nature. One of our posters is definitely in favor of the idea of the "Jewish" soul, and that point has a lot of agreement in some Jewish circles. You recently posted something that seemed to call out to those with an "Egyptian" soul. Another member has spoken of themselves as being innately "Irish" though they have no Irish background in this lifetime. This type of thing may be a consideration based on a long history in a certain culture or a chosen identification, but I have no reason to disparage the idea. People identify with particular cultures in this life, I have no reason to believe that spirits/souls may not find one type of culture particularly suits their own nature through numerous reincarnations or even in only one. Anyhow, I don't think you're way out beyond the bounds of opinion anywhere, or that you're offending anyone.


In terms of the difference between physical memory and spirit/soul memory, once again, I agree. I don't know how many ways this particular distinction can be framed or discussed, but from my standpoint, I believe that whatever I have received that is valid (as my "own" memory) has been received via my permanent reincarnating spirit and is my spirit's memory of its experience living as a particular individual in a particular lifetime. At some point, when I am past this lifetime, I will be looking back on this lifetime as a spirit being in the same way. Other than that, I'm a bit muddled, so I don't really have any fixed opinion that can be disturbed.


In terms of what the "sun gods" were wearing, I would be very interested and that would provide a fresh source for research. In terms of the symbols you mentioned, I somehow doubt that they can be utilized without some way of connecting to a power source used by the "sun gods". I think they would be like any other switch or control on a device that was "unplugged"--unless they could be "plugged" into THE power source used by the "sun gods" (which may actually have been themselves). However, that's only speculation on my part, and someone may know a way to "plug" them into that power source or something similar, so I agree that the risk is too great on those. So, as you said, those should probably be kept secret.


Cordially,


S&S
 
.This is the rough and out of perspective drawing (it's the best I can do), It Is accurate. When I look at it ....this is what the original gods the sun gods looked like when they were here thousands of years before the unification of Egypt. They are obviously physical. Were they mysterious god's in physical form? I doubt it. Both my spiritual self and source insist they are god's, which I also believe. Are they Alien? well there were to us, we had never seen anything like them before. From another planet? absolutely not. They are the original gods . Who and what is believed to be the original god/gods may be completely wrong. Christians have the ace. They claim their god, is the original god and existed before time began


The symbols were on the pharaoh type headgear, also hanging on their foreheads, on the straps going down the sides of their bodies, on the material around their wastes and the material hanging from it. The symbols on the top of their legs appeared to be tattoos, but that is a guess. The staps on their bodies appeared to be a leather type material and was a dark brown colour. The material was an aqua colour. They looked absolutely magnificent
 
Did you delete the other image? I found this and thought it might be a good source for you.

A sundial dating to the 13th century B.C. and considered one of the oldest Egyptian sundials, was discovered in Egypt's Valley of the Kings, the burial place of rulers from Egypt's New Kingdom period (around 1550 B.C. to 1070 B.C.). - See more at: http://www.livescience.com/28057-anc....L55GxuUx.dpuf
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Hi Deborah... Thanks for that information and link...The sun dial with a hole in the middle is very interesting.. Its interesting that one theory was something was put into the hole to throw a shadow onto the dial.. They also talked about its possible connection of sun gods journey to the underworld. All very interesting. I had never considered the disk the gods were wearing was a sun dial


that could mean the symbols around the edge of the disk are connected to the sun, but again that is a guess.


As I have said the original gods the sun gods all looked pharaoh like to me


Yes I did not post an image... Thanks for the info


Regards
 
Hate to tell you this, but four strand broad collars are pretty rare. All in tourquoise, rarer still.


The red item is a heart amulet. Probably a replica, but you get the idea.
 
". . .the burials of the first kings of an United Egypt, designated by Egyptologists as Dynasty 0. The earliest of these are far out in the desert, and consist of double chambers containing wooden shrines." And stelea. "Although no super structures remain, it is likely that these were simple mounds of sand . . . These might have symbolized the mound of creation."


"The tomb of the first king of the 1st Dynasty consist of three large subterranean chambers and about 36 smaller pits. Some of the smaller pits seem to have been for the burials . . . of seven young lions, evidently sacrificed to accompany the king to his Afterlife."


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Blueheart.. Thanks once again for great information... I will now as I always do researching the information. The broad strand collar image was instantly of interest.. That is very close to the colour they were wearing and the arrow head type parts of it is the first time I have seen them other than on the original gods.. So yes you are right, again its hard for me see it.. When these things happen I have started to feel physically sick, so much so I get a bucket just in case I need it... The way its going I will use the bucket.. But that will never stop me from searching for the truth... Why would this have begun to happen?


Regards
 
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Is there anyone out there who knows how to use a computer drawing program or the like? It would be great if there was someone who could work over (photoshop?) a good pharaoh side image (like the one Deborah posted) and a good pharaoh front image to wear the types of things John is putting out. Then he could give comments on adjusting this a bit here and a bit there, until we had a really good portrayal in color. Overall, he and we could have a much better picture this way.


John,


Two queries: Did the sun gods wear the type of headwear shown above, or something different. Also (I know you have difficulty with accessing and describing the head/facial area from these experiences, but I'm curious whether they also had the types of straight or curved beards shown in Egyptian art for the Pharaoh/gods?


Cordially,


S&S
 
There are apps - Like BRUSHES. I'm not a computer artist though but I'm sure there are many programs and software that can.John --Could the blue stone you're seeing be Laris Lapis? A very expensive stone. ;o) not tourquoise?

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Hi Deborah Thanks for the info.. No nothing was that blue. I had a fascinating two hours researching the stone and its role in Ancient Egypt.. All of this information helps me have a greater overall understanding.. So none of it is ever wasted on me


Regards
 
Blueheart.. This has just started to happen. When I go searching for proof of what I have seen during meditation, mostly when I have seen memories in real time, the same with the broad strand collar you posted, when I find something or someone posts something and its identical or very close to what I have seen during mediation, keeping in mind when I see these things while meditating I have never seen them before... then out of basically nowhere there they are in the physical I'm beginning to feel physically sick. It lasts for 10 minutes or so then it subsides, and I don't understand why that is happening.. You would think I would have the opposite reaction, I should have a feeling of satisfaction, but I don't, far from it. I have no feelings of achievement either.. There is nothing there.. it is what it is, and I don't understand why this is happenenig


S&S.... As you know I will never talk about the faces of the original gods, the sun gods.. The lions are important. As I said they had lions with them . They were not restrained, the walked along side the gods. It felt and it appeared the original gods had a special attachment to the lions. I think they were very special to them, in a spiritual way.


Regards
 
After reading what Blueheart posted as always, with all of the help I get from everyone I go searching Talking about the spiritual disk the gods were wearing Dedorah guided me to the oldest sundial known where it had a hole in the middle, most likely to put something in the hole to cast a shadow Blueheart talked about the mound of creation and I found this image.. Very close to what the gods were wearing a circular disk with symbols around the edge of the disk... It is the sun rising over the circular mound of creation.. These are also the types of things that make me feel physically sick... Very close to what I have seen which I had no knowledge of prior to me seeing them in the real time memories of my spiritual self.. I'm beginning to feel and I will mediate more on this.. That over hundreds if not thousands of years two suns turned into one sun and that the only sun was the original sun the original gods the sun gods came from
 
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