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Where do you "belong"?

That's an interesting concept, Conroy. I wonder how it differs from country to country? I've mostly been in the U.S. since 1100 A.D., and maybe before that. I haven't traveled enough to know what vibrations would be different. Any theories out there?
 
BriarRose said:
That's an interesting concept, Conroy. I wonder how it differs from country to country? I've mostly been in the U.S. since 1100 A.D., and maybe before that. I haven't traveled enough to know what vibrations would be different. Any theories out there?
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I'm also interested to hear more about Conroy's theory. From what I know about my past (which isn't much compared to a lot of people here and is also based on my instinct) England is a place I feel very patriotic towards; England's history is something I've always been drawn to, from the second world war to the Tudors, to medieval times. I am sure I have had at least one life in America and I also feel rather drawn to Japan, but England particularly (as opposed to Britain) feels very much a part of me.


I would be very interested in hearing the spiritual make-up of this country!
 
Conroy's theory sounds interesting to me as well. I wonder what we'd have to change in order to get to another country? I'm very attached to England as well, but figure it's because all those romance novels I've read were usually set there, not to mention much of our popular culture (Shakespeare, music, art) and history is entwined with theirs, and there are a lot of Anglophiles around so I can't say if my interest would be past life driven or not. But I want to be there next time. :D
 
Conroy said:
each country on Earth has a particular spiritual makeup / design / vibration
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I know what you mean. It's like the different vibes you get from different souls, regardless of lifetime.


It's not quite the same as culture, but it's similar. Not as flowing and changing.
 
I also just realized something I hadn't paid much attention to before. When I tell people I'm English and they start talking about 'Britain' I feel this stab of annoyance; but if they talk about 'England' and refer it to me, I feel very proud.


Or if someone says, "Are you British?" I feel extremely annoyed and tell them I'm not British, I'm English. I can recall being like this ever since I was young, but not sure why.


Furthermore, I used to have a massive flag of England in my bedroom window for all to see - I would have never done that with the Union Jack. Unfortunately, the flag of St George is often associated with thugs and lowlife, but that didn't stop me. These days, I'm a little more tolerant of being referred to as British as in it doesn't make me as angry as it used to, but I still get those feelings of irritation. Even when filling out document papers, I dislike the fact it only has 'British' in the ethnicity section and not 'English.'


Do you think this might be a sign that my life in England may have stemmed from waaay back? As in, back to the times when England was battling the Scots, Welsh, etc? I know this may also sound terrible, but I also have something in me that considers England superior over the other countries in Britain.


Well, it looks like several of us are intrigued by Conroy's theory. Come on, Conroy, we are all eagerly anticipating your next post! :D
 
SkyeSpitfire said:
Do you think this might be a sign that my life in England may have stemmed from waaay back? As in, back to the times when England was battling the Scots, Welsh, etc? I know this may also sound terrible, but I also have something in me that considers England superior over the other countries in Britain.
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Probably. Most people would not make the distinction.
 
argonne1918 said:
Do you keep up with things German today? Do you speak any German? There are a lot of German videos on YouTube. You can also subscribe to the English section of
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Thanks for the recommendation for Deutsche Welle. I take German classes to keep up with the language but it is hard when not being there. I am interested in modern Germany but don't keep up with it that much. I am much more interested in tradition, culture, and the locales, which is mostly stuff from my time and before. So much has changed that it is hard for me to relate to modern Germany. I do watch a German blog on YouTube that is quite interesting though and gives me an idea of how modern Germans live.
 
I think I get what Armada is saying. People say they are drawn to other souls of similar vibration. I have read the theory that certain aspects of our lives repeat because we are drawn to that vibratory pattern. Some authors say the vibration of a mother's womb draws in the soul of the fetus, because it is appropriate for the life experience we are planning to have. If 6 billion souls are all on the planet right now, it would hardly seem possible that the process is random. That premise would make a very funny novel - a soul headed for Brooklyn ends up in Brighton, etc., but nature doesn't seem to be that random.
 
The idea of an area resonating with one's character really made me sit back and think. I like it!


For me, I find myself drawn again and again to the northern hemisphere - to Scandinavia, Russia, Siberia, Greenland, Alaska. The concept of heading south into the sun holds no appeal for me at all. Many of my dreams and visions seem to be based in these countries too. I even seem to have acquired a knack of being drawn to northern stones. Almost all the crystals in my collection are from the Northern Circle!


Curiously, though, of all of the places I could be drawn to, I am greatly intrigued by a place called Jamtland. It is currently part of Sweden, but has variously been Norwegian, and is also an area inhabited by the Sami. While I would dearly love to visit Sweden rather than Norway, I find I am better at learning Norwegian. And while I am fascinated by the landscape of Sweden, I pay most attention to the lives and languages of the Sami people rather thank those who are Swedish or Norwegian :playing:
 
BriarRose said:
I think I get what Armada is saying. People say they are drawn to other souls of similar vibration. I have read the theory that certain aspects of our lives repeat because we are drawn to that vibratory pattern. Some authors say the vibration of a mother's womb draws in the soul of the fetus, because it is appropriate for the life experience we are planning to have. If 6 billion souls are all on the planet right now, it would hardly seem possible that the process is random. That premise would make a very funny novel - a soul headed for Brooklyn ends up in Brighton, etc., but nature doesn't seem to be that random.
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Haha! Soul winds up in a completely different place - Brighton as opposed to Brooklyn, where it couldn't get more different - you're right, that would be hilarious!


I see, so you're saying that whatever country we wind up in is the country where we meet the souls most similar to ourselves? I assume then that those who decide to live elsewhere or those who feel drawn to a different country are the ones who have 'learned' their lesson and now move onto the next one?
 
I don't know that it's the souls so much, as it is the national character. I sometimes feel very connected to people on the forum who come from radically different countries than the U.S. It begs the question - what constitutes the character of a country? Is it the citizens, or something else? The U.S., to me, is still quite "wild west". I never considered myself very patriotic, until I did my family tree, and realized how quintessentially "American" I was. But, I realize that many other places are more "evolved", in a spiritual and social way. I don't mean that in a derogatory sense, but I think strengths and weaknesses in national character exist. Are we drawn in because that matches our own? Do some souls come to one country or another, to help it evolve? I think it's possible. We may live our lives in another place to "sample" it, sort of like a soul "Smorgasbord". Could the energy of a land mass be what it is because of mineral deposits, or some unknown factor? Maybe. Lynette mentioned being drawn to rocks from northern climes, as well as language, and culture.
 
Lynnette said:
For me, I find myself drawn again and again to the northern hemisphere - to Scandinavia, Russia, Siberia, Greenland, Alaska. The concept of heading south into the sun holds no appeal for me at all. Many of my dreams and visions seem to be based in these countries too. I even seem to have acquired a knack of being drawn to northern stones. Almost all the crystals in my collection are from the Northern Circle!
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Almost 1,000 years ago the Vikings landed in Greenland, when it WAS green. They built villages there. But then a few hundred years later the climate changed and it turned cold. Some of the Vikings left and the ones who chose to stay ended up starving to death.
 
I can't say I actually have much of a theory regarding the different spiritual vibrations between each country, although on some level it does seem to make some sense to me. It was something I received during meditation once and I can't say I thought an awful lot about it until remembering it when I saw this topic. Answers on a postcard maybe? ;)


Perhaps my particular personality type, developed over all my experiences in many lifetimes, just seems to fit with England and its culture / heritage / whatever. I must say that, although I'm not vastly experienced in overseas travel (I have traveled extensively in Britain), the few times I've been abroad, I've always ended up feeling homesick and have struggled to identify with different countries and their cultures. England is where I feel at home, and I guess that could extend to Britain generally as well, but more so England.
 
Skye & conroy, It's funny ive always felt more british than english.


I don't know whether it makes a difference which area in england you are from but apart from where i live i much prefer scotland, wales & cornwall. I do have celtic roots though. I've been more surprised how many pl's are english related & have no recolletions yet of scotland or wales but am pretty sure cornwall is relevant.


Many of my lives have started in england & i've moved abroad. I always planned to move on in this one-there is time yet.


I think i may be subconciously sacrificing this for the sake of benefitting being around a larger soul group than i've had for the last few lives.


I can understand the vibrations. It may explain why some people feel they may have been born in the wrong place.
 
I also feel a strong connection with Cornwall. I'm sure there probably is something past-life related there, but it's not something I've come across yet. Perhaps I won't in this lifetime, save for a love of the place bleeding through. After all, it's often said that we remember the lifetimes that are important to our present lives. If we tried to remember all of them, we'd probably never have time to do anything in our present life.


Starrynight, it's an interesting point you bring up about people feeling they've been born in the wrong place. Whilst I don't believe that anyone is truly born in the wrong place, considering pre-life planning and so forth, perhaps those lifetimes in vastly different locales to those we usually inhabit take us out of our incarnation comfort zone, so to speak, in order to force us to learn something particular we couldn't do otherwise.
 
This topic of where people reincarnate to is pretty interesting. I wish we had a definitive answer, but in the meantime we will have to speculate. I'm sure the answer is much more complex and involved than we actually realize.


In Dr. Stevenson's studies he noted that many people in the area he was in reincarnated back to the same country. I wonder why people reincarnate across oceans and continents? I'm sure I've had three lives now here in America, two in Europe (at least, I wouldn't be surprised if I had many more there), and at least one in Japan that I speculate on.
 
I know this may also sound terrible, but I also have something in me that considers England superior over the other countries in Britain.
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Heh heh, my step-father, and his whole family really, certainly felt that way. Being seen as 'British' versus English really irked them. LOL But many of my English co-workers had that 'harumph' reaction if anyone called them 'British', too.


As to reincarnation, I'd always thought that one would want to get out and about and try different cultures and experiences. Maybe some souls do, some don't.
 
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In answer to your reincarnation question, "Does anyone have one specific place where they feel they "belong" as such?"


I have recalled past lives from well over thousands and thousands of years ago. One thing that may be a little known understanding is that reincarnation is not only a learning experience but also a prison. I have had past lives during golden ages where life was so heavenly and I had almost magical abilities and lived in the world when it was like a utopia pristine waterfalls, rolling green lands. I had felt I had achieved spiritual freedom only to in the next life times have lives of suffering and poverty. In one life it may give the illusion of utopia, joy, or belonging but this can become a trap as I have experienced. This is because I have seen past lives that go back to (millions) of years. We get stuck on this wheel of 84 (wheel of reincarnation) and can't get off until we find a spiritual traveler. So in answer to your question where do we feel we belong?


I would say not on Earth as it is the place of reincarnation but in the worlds of spiritual freedom. I just posted an interesting Reincarnation video describing this and how to trancend reincarnation on youtube:

for anyone interest. Have a joyful day.
 
Interesting replies from everyone. Question: Do you think the places you feel most comfortable in reflect the nature of your soul's temperament, or are places where you had happy experiences? Or something else?


I actually wish I knew, but I haven't ever traveled out of the US, and I never felt entirely at home anywhere :) I don't think it would be fair to claim that a place is my "home" unless I have experienced being there in this lifetime.
 
I'm kind of the same way, never been out of the US, Western Washington has been my home growing up and will almost always will be. The hardest part about experiencing my biblical past life Simon of Zealot, is the legacy; Manifest Destiny for one, using our holy leader as a scapegoat to kill so many Native Americans. My Step-Dad;Grand Nephew of a Shoalwater Bay tribe Cheif has told me many times growing up "son you are more Native American than most tribal men" and it breaks my heart sometimes even to tears just thinking about it that I had something to do with all these deaths. Tomorrow after work I have a totem pole that I'm going to donate to my highschool comemorating what Nova Highschool students and alumni stand for and commemorating the tribe that is eventually going to adopt me; as far as family politics is concerned. Other than that I've been involved in Activism and am Currently an Ambassador for Special Olympics if that counts for anything.


Going to Diana Devonshire (1632-1664), there is a sort of belonging knowing where my ancestry came from since most of my current ancesters were right on the English Civil War grounds when it took place. I have a new fond respect for witches I'll tell you that.
 
It came to me that a sense of belonging could go way back to our earlier lives.


I've said before I've always felt more Spanish than British. In 2 or more lives I've left my country of birth to live there & it's featured strongly in this life. Yet I've had other lives in England, so why should Spain feel more familiar?


On holiday I had a flashback as I saw two muslim women in traditional dress walking by. We were in a Moorish area & it struck me that I'd been part of that lifestyle but many years ago. I'm not sure I'll get any more from this life but I can see myself in the dress, cooking food outside.


It explains to me the areas I like, especially the Moorish areas of Southern Spain. It also explains some choices I've made in later lives, particularly the ineterest & familiarity in muslim countries.
 
funny. i have often told people that i must have been born in the wrong country. i have always been drawn to anglophone countries, most notably the US and the UK.


learning english was practically no trouble at all for me, and it was easier to learn than my other two foreign languages.


i have also always been drawn to Germanic and Viking culture.


while i do feel at home in my native country, The Netherlands, i have a few distinctly un-Dutch qualities. i hate riding bicycles, for instance! :D


i never made the connection with reincarnation until recently...
 
Axes said:
Learning English was practically no trouble at all for me, and it was easier to learn than my other two foreign languages.
i have also always been drawn to Germanic and Viking culture.


while i do feel at home in my native country, The Netherlands, i have a few distinctly un-Dutch qualities. i hate riding bicycles, for instance! :D


i never made the connection with reincarnation until recently...
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Did you know that both English and Dutch are Germanic languages? There are many German words that English speakers use without realizing they are German. "Halt" being one, for instance.
 
Before the time of William the Conqueror (1066 AD) the dominant language and culture of England originated from what is today considered the Netherlands (Friesland). Interestingly, all the people I have met from the Netherlands spoke better English than most native speakers of England and the U.S. It is also interesting to note that the founders of the United States based their concepts of government principally on the systems applied in the Netherlands for centuries. In fact, not enough credit is given to the Dutch for contributing to America's "former" success.
 
incidentally, yes, i did know. Frisian and English are categorised as Ingvaeonic languages, while current standard German and Dutch are counted as Istvaeonic.


i feel a little as if i've cheated, though, because i am a professional linguist. my foreign languages are English and German. i also happen to live in an area where Frisian was the main language up until the 15th century.


and... i am probably too nerdy for my own good -.-


@Nightrain, thank you for your gracious words on the merits of the Dutch *curtseys*
 
If I may interject, it is impossible to be "too nerdy". Nerdiness is a quality that is very admirable, and should be celebrated! :)
 
BriarRose said:
If I may interject, it is impossible to be "too nerdy". Nerdiness is a quality that is very admirable, and should be celebrated! :)
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This, this x1000. But I suppose I must note my bias on the matter ;D


Anyways, I really used to think that I belonged in Germany. But I lived there a little while back in 2008 and haven't felt like that since. Rather, I have this nagging feeling that I really just don't belong anywhere. I've no pull towards any place and feel a bit of a wanderer. I moved a bit growing up and now I'm afraid I'm like my father, getting the itch to pack up again once I've been somewhere for two years. It's sort of a drag and makes me feel somewhat of a misfit in space. Very restless and rather lonely kind of feeling, actually.
 
Sometimes I guess, we belong to a certain place but "in the past". For example, I don´t think I belong to my current city in 2014 (I might not even belong to this city at all) but belonging to it in the 1950's feels a bit more real. Less cars, nicer people, nicer buildings. Sometimes I even get a bit nostalgic and proud when walking in certain parts of town that haven´t changed as much. But then I see how things are like now and I just want to run away.
 
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Yes, I'm certain the changes over time have everything to do with it especially when that sense of belonging has so to do with the past. I totally know how you feel with that 'disconnected' feeling with modern places.


Personally I typically don't feel like I belong in a past era anymore, I used to but as time moves on and my reincarnation studies expand I'm not so obsessed with the idea of 'returning'. Maybe I'm just better at accepting change I can't control than I was when I was younger. No idea.
 
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